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ayu2001 23rd September 2013 01:55 AM

thank you for answering. i will answer do my best. but i have poor english skills. so i have limit to explain though. but i will do my best to explain. because you mistook what i said.

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Originally Posted by kinix (Post 3029659)
But in this case where you've pointed out yourself was that the recording was different on the final show. Thus, there's no guarantee that all shows were used with pre-recorded track.

yes.. on A BEST LIVE CD. it's absolutely from the last live show. but the melody what she sing is not LIVE. What she said like 'fi-na-ru' or 'ikujae yoyogi' tell us it's from last live show and prove that. but the song. melody what she sing is maybe not, what i mean. you said 'those track were not from the last date recording but from other tour dates.'right? the last date recording is right. those tracks ARE last date recording, but her singing is not last date recording. that means she didn't live that song. just only her talking (like fi-na-ru, ikujae yoyogi etc..) is live. do you understand what i mean? as a result. i wanna say the same pre-recorded track was used throughout the whole tour.


and i remember too. she was injured before the show. but what i said is she is using pre-recorded songs on her LIVE tour. i don't blame for that. you have point out.
Deep snow said 'All of the songs on the CD are "full live".' so i just wanna say ayumi uses pre-recorded songs on her tour.. PCDL, she used and 10th anniversary she used. 09-10 she used. a-nation 07 she used. many tour she used already. so she may (i assure) used pre-recorded songs for this a best tour too(especially dancing songs or performance songs). that means all of the songs on the CD are maybe not full live", i just wanna say. PCDL is for JUST example to explain that she is using pre-recorded songs for a long time. i do not blame her passion of PCDL. if i have the thing wanna blame ayu of PCDL is she released PCDL for LIVE album. any other reason?, i don't care.:(


oh seriously do you think she used pre-recorded songs for only 2 dates in whole A BEST LIVE? oh.. and you said "you didn't attend whole tour so you can't confirm about using pre-recorded songs." oh my god... you amazed me! what can i say, you think like that. that's my fault. i didn't attend her whole tour of A BEST LIVE. so i can't confirm that she used pre-recorded song for the whole tour. yes you're right... and it's not you looking upset.

does AHS have message function?

kinix 23rd September 2013 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ayu2001 (Post 3029669)
yes.. on A BEST LIVE CD. it's absolutely from the last live show. but the melody what she sing is not LIVE. What she said like 'fi-na-ru' or 'ikujae yoyogi' tell us it's from last live show and prove that. but the song. melody what she sing is maybe not, what i mean. you said 'those track were not from the last date recording but from other tour dates.'right? the last date recording is right. those tracks ARE last date recording, but her singing is not last date recording. that means she didn't live that song. just only her talking (like fi-na-ru, ikujae yoyogi etc..) is live. do you understand what i mean? as a result. i wanna say the same pre-recorded track was used throughout the whole tour.


and i remember too. she was injured before the show. but what i said is she is using pre-recorded songs on her LIVE tour. i don't blame for that. you have point out.
Deep snow said 'All of the songs on the CD are "full live".' so i just wanna say ayumi uses pre-recorded songs on her tour.. PCDL, she used and 10th anniversary she used. 09-10 she used. a-nation 07 she used. many tour she used already. so she may (i assure) used pre-recorded songs for this a best tour too(especially dancing songs or performance songs). that means all of the songs on the CD are maybe not full live", i just wanna say. PCDL is for JUST example to explain that she is using pre-recorded songs for a long time. i do not blame her passion of PCDL. if i have the thing wanna blame ayu of PCDL is she released PCDL for LIVE album. any other reason?, i don't care.:(


oh seriously do you think she used pre-recorded songs for only 2 dates in whole A BEST LIVE? oh.. and you said "you didn't attend whole tour so you can't confirm about using pre-recorded songs." oh my god... you amazed me! what can i say, you think like that. that's my fault. i didn't attend her whole tour of A BEST LIVE. so i can't confirm that she used pre-recorded song for the whole tour. yes you're right... and it's not you looking upset.

does AHS have message function?

Ok, since you're so sure that it's a pre recorded track, have you done any comparison with another date's live rip in detail? I mean how can u be so certain that it's pre recorded without comparing in detail.
I'm sorry but I've nv blame you for not being able to make it to all of the tour dates. In fact, I've not been to any of the tour dates and that's why I didn't just go around saying that she didn't use pre recorded tracks, against those people who have been to. What I'm trying to imply is that how can you be certain of something which you've not been to? Isn't it kinda unfair to judge on something which you've not heard/seen yourself? I'm not tryig to say she didn't use pre recorded tracks for her tour, but are you certain that she had done it for all her tou? I think I'll stop here now cause u seem a little upset that others are against your view and end this before it gets rude.

microphone 23rd September 2013 04:38 AM

Who is playing "Voyage" on loop now?

She sounded terrible but Voyage saved this release. It was beautiful...

Didz-19 23rd September 2013 06:13 AM

I don't even bother if the songs were pre-recorded or LIVE

Larien 23rd September 2013 06:24 AM

So...if the DVD comes out in a week, where is the CM? ^^;

jiarongisme 23rd September 2013 07:29 AM

^ The DVD/Blu-ray doesn't come out till the end of next month. We don't even have the covers yet. :laugh

ayu2001 23rd September 2013 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by kinix (Post 3029675)
how can you be certain of something which you've not been to?.

did you ask me that how i am certain? i told you already i think. and i gave you evidence already too.
seems you still think these songs are not pre-recorded songs. oh, that is ok.
i wanna ask you this time. "what is the reason that A BEST LIVE CD dosen't have any pre-recorded song you think?",
"why are the two dates songs same? (CD ver.-last date and fan rip ver.-other date)"
and "do you agree PCDL have some pre-recorded songs, at least":)
i hope you can answer all of my questions

tokyoxjapanxfan 23rd September 2013 12:18 PM

As someone who only went to the first date, I can't vouch for the other performances.

Ayu generally uses pre-recorded tracks only for cuter, poppier songs that maybe include some choreographed dance routines. On the live CD, the only songs that fit that description are Fly High and poker face.

I doubt she used any pre-recorded songs for her ballads. Mostly because she never really does that. But I'd say there's a possibility for Fly High and poker face. Though, that's not necessarily what I believe.

Zeke. 23rd September 2013 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by microphone (Post 3029688)
Who is playing "Voyage" on loop now?

She sounded terrible but Voyage saved this release. It was beautiful...

I would probably go "loopy" if I had that on repeat... I was already feeling anxious while listening to it during my first playthrough.

microphone 23rd September 2013 05:54 PM

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We're on a journey, looking for love and to be happy
Indeed, Ayu... and I hope you (and I) find love someday!

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Originally Posted by Zeke. (Post 3029729)
I would probably go "loopy" if I had that on repeat... I was already feeling anxious while listening to it during my first playthrough.

lol :dead2

njanjayrp 23rd September 2013 10:40 PM

JEWEL is deffo my fave track for now, followed by ASFXX, No way to say and Voyage.

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Originally Posted by Zeke. (Post 3029729)
I would probably go "loopy" if I had that on repeat... I was already feeling anxious while listening to it during my first playthrough.

Oh Zeke has changed his set. This calls for a celebration! :D

spanishfan 23rd September 2013 11:38 PM

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Originally Posted by tokyoxjapanxfan (Post 3029726)
As someone who only went to the first date, I can't vouch for the other performances.

Ayu generally uses pre-recorded tracks only for cuter, poppier songs that maybe include some choreographed dance routines. On the live CD, the only songs that fit that description are Fly High and poker face.

I doubt she used any pre-recorded songs for her ballads. Mostly because she never really does that. But I'd say there's a possibility for Fly High and poker face. Though, that's not necessarily what I believe.

I think the same. Maybe she did in those 2 songs (or one of them), but maybe not. I don't care anyway because she resung these for the concert. It's like the videos we saw in other tours, they're pre-recorded... it's just a show.
I usually don't mind about this. I only didn't like she lipsynced EnergizE at AT09 (I think, not sure she did) because I love that song xD

truehappiness 23rd September 2013 11:49 PM

I wish she would rearrange ANGEL'S SONG and actually sing it. That's like, one of my favorite songs (then again I have a dozen+ favorite songs... or more..) and she always performs it in that same way, agh.

kaito_moonlove 24th September 2013 02:29 AM

The only bad thing in this live album is the quality (as I think), On the other hand, ayu 's voice is strong, emotive and amazing, I really love this show although I haven't watched her performance. Using the pre-recordings track or not is not important because I ensure that she tried her best in this show and she may use it for some reasons.
Her voice completely changed, it is getting "older" but stronger and more emotive. Her fame may not be as the 2000s. You and I are the fans, we should support her more and wait to see her effort. We can complain the vocals or anythings else but Ayumi Hamasaki is still our womder woman ?
P/s" Sorry for my poor English guys

kotora 24th September 2013 04:44 AM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 3029801)
I wish she would rearrange ANGEL'S SONG and actually sing it. That's like, one of my favorite songs (then again I have a dozen+ favorite songs... or more..) and she always performs it in that same way, agh.

We still have countdown live 2013-2014 ...

She might preform some songs from the voting list.

truehappiness 24th September 2013 05:08 AM

Just saying but oh my god this Voyage is so good from A BEST LIVE.

They snuck a bit of progress in the melody, it sounds like.

js_surrealism 24th September 2013 05:53 AM

I will say that her performance of Teddy bear is decent. It's the one song on which she doesn't sound like she's shouting to compete with the backing track.

truehappiness 24th September 2013 05:55 AM

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Originally Posted by js_surrealism (Post 3029849)
I will say that her performance of Teddy bear is decent. It's the one song on which she doesn't sound like she's shouting to compete with the backing track.

I listened to the whole album a few times and I didn't get the 'shouting' thing at all, really... unless she was singing something like Tell All where she will sound like she's yelling no matter what.

It's probably whoever was doing the mixing's fault.

js_surrealism 24th September 2013 06:29 AM

^ To me the shouting was most obvious in the opening lines of Voyage. I couldn't even bear to listen to it the first time I skipped right past it.

njanjayrp 24th September 2013 09:06 AM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 3029847)

They snuck a bit of progress in the melody, it sounds like.

I noticed that too :D

Oh and she definitely wasn't shouting, even during Tell All when she had so many chances to shout.


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