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Max_ZZZ 12th April 2008 06:22 PM

just a quick question,
but what would have to happen at this point for the single to become number #1?
i mean in terms of sales of Mirrorcle World and the sales of the other single?
maybe if they sold a few more consistent 10K's, what sales would ayu have to have etc.

JinHamasaki 12th April 2008 06:55 PM

She has concerts this weekend. And there will be stalls selling "Mirrorcle World". Each concert houses ~10-12k. Let's hope concertgoers will buy some, especially with the "weekend special".

But anyways, if she is not #1, I wouldn't be surprised. This is a sorta "recut" single from an album!

ayumisrael 12th April 2008 06:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Luv ~Venus~ (Post 1415835)
I think this single has sold 86K already. Go back to the previos page and u should find your answer there.


@ayumisrael: Ugh, again! What is wrong with people caring about sales and charting??? :grumpy I for one care about. Even if ayu loses her streak, I won't stop liking her. In my book, it's okay for a person to care about an artists sales and charting. I hardly doubt they'll stop liking them just because they didn't do good selling or charting.

I'm talking about people that actually takes charting and sales too seriously and it makes them feel things :P

criminal 12th April 2008 06:57 PM

I'm totally being a hypocrite, but I want avex to fluctuate the charts. If Ayumi's #1 singles streak is going to be broken, at least make the final #1 be the decade anniversary single.

This whole thing is very upsetting.

Ayumiko 12th April 2008 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by ayu_fan929 (Post 1415892)
Ayu has 29 #1 singles in total, 17 of which are consecutive.
Seiko has 25 #1 singles in total, 24 of which are consecutive.

Thanks for the numbers. Honestly even if ayu get #1 for this single, I don't think she'll be able to get #1 consecutively after that to break seiko's record. Atleast she still holds the record for most #1 singles and most top 10 singles (40) for female and solo artist.

I'm happy already mirrorcle world is gonna sell more than t2m. I hope those who are making a fuss about this actually contributed to the sales...don't wanna be mean or anything but u know what I mean.

saywindies 12th April 2008 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by criminal (Post 1415978)
I'm totally being a hypocrite, but I want avex to fluctuate the charts. If Ayumi's #1 singles streak is going to be broken, at least make the final #1 be the decade anniversary single.

This whole thing is very upsetting.

i agree with you. although i never really cared about actual sales but its her anniversary single~~~ i really want it to succeed~

Lee_Hamasaki 12th April 2008 08:16 PM

insane...i really hate these boyband.

Jwiz 12th April 2008 08:42 PM

Unable to get #1 when it's a tenth anniversary single is indeed grieving. But it's not right to push all the blame to boybands as i believe the content of mirrorcle world plays a part too.

And also, i've also learnt to let it go and in fact, if losing the streak can exchange for more interesting, innovative and exotic singles/songs in the future, i'll be more than glad to allow it to happen (it's just my opinion)

For ayu, her singles normally have short charts life and so IMO her first day sales kind of determine how many copies the singles will sell. I just hope that mirrorcle world will get #1 for anniversary's sake.

Melrose 12th April 2008 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Luv ~Venus~ (Post 1415748)
@Melrose: lol Hmmm......Movin' On without You was Hikki's only #1 single for that album but she only released 3 singles with one of them being a recut. Automatic sold over 2 million copies while MOWY sold over 1.2 million. So, its a guess that First Love was going to do well. :yes

Holy... 2 million and #2? Who the heck sold more. o_O;

Ayumiko 12th April 2008 09:00 PM

I just received my cds and they are sooo beautiful!...omg...such a great collection.

I agree with Jwiz...if losing the streak can exchange for more interesting, innovative and exotic singles/songs in the future, I rather her lose it.

jkm444 12th April 2008 10:17 PM

This may not be the best single but I don't want ayu to lose her no.1 streak..
Unfortunately by tomorrow is when she loses it offically....unless if the boy band's sale index is 10,000 or less and ayu's one goes up to 7,000 or the boy band's index drop to 5000 then ayu have steady 4000 sales then ayu will still manage to get no.1. (It will take a miracle for this to happen..)

bluegie 12th April 2008 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by MeruChan (Post 1415715)
Ps: I think that Ayu will beat Seiko's no#1 streak..it's only 7 to 8 singles more! Cross your fingers guys!

The meaning of streak is getting consecutive no. 1... If MW is no. 2, the streak will be broken. Everything will be start over and I dun really think ayu can pull another 24 consecutive no. 1s in the future.

But anyawyz, looking thru the new posts I realized that why I was sad last nite. criminal and saywindles revealed my thought. It's her anniversary, so I wish MW will be no. 1. Someone can knock her down no. 2 later, but not at this moment.

Jwiz's also correct. Probly ayu can finally make some innovative music instead of using the same formula (summer catchy 2A single, fall/winter ballad) to please the audience, once the streak is broken..

Oh well... double minded..

polka-dot-jewel 12th April 2008 10:32 PM

Who's the boy band that's beating her? They must be insanely popular if they're beating her...

Then again, she's not doing much TV promotion. Or magazine promotion. True, she's on her tour right now, but she could have still pulled in a few TV appearances.

It does suck that THIS is her 10th anniversary single, and it'll be a fight to get #1. Of course, everyone could go out and buy it (again) next week and help her get a #1 then...oh, well. It's not the end of the world if she doesn't get #1 at some point. I'm actually quite used to her getting #2 now, haha.

bluegie 12th April 2008 10:38 PM

A boyband from a TV talent show I think. This is their debut single and no one would think they would be a huge threat this week.. :P

Luv ~Venus~ 12th April 2008 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Melrose (Post 1416114)
Holy... 2 million and #2? Who the heck sold more. o_O;

Kinki Kids. When Automatic was first released, it sold 43K and debuted at #42 on the charts but the single suddenly got popular. Automatic went weeks climbing to the top. She sold 200k the week Kinki beat her but I think overall, Automatic sold more then their single.


Eh....this thread is getting too depressing. If she loses her streak, I hope you will accept her #2 position. :yes

cloud♥honey 12th April 2008 11:03 PM

C'mon, people. I don't see the terrible in all this story. Ayu is selling so well and people are hating this boyband just because of their sales. Ayu will be always the best seller female singer of Japan. Nothing can change it. The important is that the single is awesome, her best songs ever released imo, and the photos of it are stunning. At least, she is in the Top 3, things that artists like Kuu (considered one of the best-sellers for now) can't do so much.

Some people will kill me, but the irony about her #1 streak be break in her 10th anniversary single is delicious. :laugh

criminal 12th April 2008 11:10 PM

Yeah, the Bold & Delicious thing was done at JPM already.

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Originally Posted by Melrose (Post 1416114)
Holy... 2 million and #2? Who the heck sold more. o_O;

Take into account that Automatic wasn't a big first-week seller and that the two versions (12cm & 8cm) charted separately.

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Originally Posted by Jwiz (Post 1416109)
And also, i've also learnt to let it go and in fact, if losing the streak can exchange for more interesting, innovative and exotic singles/songs in the future, i'll be more than glad to allow it to happen (it's just my opinion)

That's the thing... I don't know why everyone keeps saying that? I mean.. if Max Matsuura or someone tells Ayumi on the phone that her new single is #2, it's not like Ayumi's going to abandon her whole CMJK, person-who-made-Mirrocle World etc crew. :/ I don't see a radical change coming. :O

Ayu_lover 12th April 2008 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Cloud_Honey (Post 1416215)
C'mon, people. I don't see the terrible in all this story. Ayu is selling so well and people are hating this boyband just because of their sales. Ayu will be always the best seller female singer of Japan. Nothing can change it. The important is that the single is awesome, her best songs ever released imo, and the photos of it are stunning. At least, she is in the Top 3, things that artists like Kuu (considered one of the best-sellers for now) can't do so much.

Some people will kill me, but the irony about her #1 streak be break in her 10th anniversary single is delicious. :laugh

<3!

bluegie 12th April 2008 11:11 PM

and another sarcaism.. The boyband is called Shuchishin (羞恥心), which means ashamed literally in English... :shakehead

NorthStar 12th April 2008 11:22 PM

I of course want her Anniversary single to get #1,because I wish the best for her and it is a celebration of her place in the business.
However,if she was absolutely determined to get to #1 at all costs, a song like Mirrorcle World is clearly not the way to go. Her rock-flavoured songs never do as well on the charts,and MW has very bizarre tempo changes,is almost 6 minutes long,includes a symphonic intro,smashing glass,etc. I really enjoy the song for precisely these reasons,but its a gamble when you know the closest to assurance you can get for a #1 is to release an uptempo poppy song or a ballad.

Lets be honest too; alot of MW's sales are driven by the different editions and people buying multiples. I am sure that the sales would be lower if there was only a cd+dvd and a cd only like normal.

Also,not to point fingers,but complaining and saying how stressed you are/angry about Ayu not getting to #1 or "losing" her streak if you didn't do your part and actually buy a single is a little silly. If everyone thinks one doesn't make a difference,then none will be sold. Don't complain generally,but really don't complain if you couldn't get $10 together to buy the single. Come on...


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