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KuuXAyu-fan 27th April 2012 07:29 PM

#33 today

Pieces_of_SEVEN 27th April 2012 11:25 PM

Wow, so all in all, Party Queen really isn't doing THAT badly. Awesome

freedreamer 28th April 2012 04:37 AM

Im sure the tour these days will still push it up :)

Pieces_of_SEVEN 28th April 2012 04:45 AM

^Yeah, that's probable, and something to look forward to. :)

brener 28th April 2012 01:04 PM

i hope it charts at least for 10 weeks

TeamAyu2004 28th April 2012 05:21 PM

Man, i must of been dreaming.. I thought it said 14 today... ohwell.. lol

brener 28th April 2012 10:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freedreamer (Post 2857698)
Im sure the tour these days will still push it up :)

we all hope something rise up the sales

KuuXAyu-fan 29th April 2012 12:05 AM

5th Day
Position: #36

ayumisrael 29th April 2012 12:13 AM

Thanks. They put top 50 in 2ch?

AyuBlackwind 29th April 2012 03:51 AM

Based on the data differences of sales from what Avex reports and what the Oricon reports, is it possible that Party Queen has already well passed the 150,000 mark along with Kuu's albums?

Why is there such a difference between what the Oricon says and Avex and why does it affect the RIAJ certifications?

Why shouldn't it count towards the total? I don't understand the numbers.

KuuXAyu-fan 29th April 2012 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 2858158)
Thanks. They put top 50 in 2ch?

I get it from another source.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AyuBlackwind (Post 2858193)
Based on the data differences of sales from what Avex reports and what the Oricon reports, is it possible that Party Queen has already well passed the 150,000 mark along with Kuu's albums?

Kuu is signed to an Avex Records Group label so her sales would be higher as well than what Oricon reports. I'm pretty sure those Avex numbers are shipments. A record label often reports a shipped figure to the media and say thats how much its sold.

Andrenekoi 29th April 2012 08:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AyuBlackwind (Post 2858193)
Based on the data differences of sales from what Avex reports and what the Oricon reports, is it possible that Party Queen has already well passed the 150,000 mark along with Kuu's albums?

Why is there such a difference between what the Oricon says and Avex and why does it affect the RIAJ certifications?

Why shouldn't it count towards the total? I don't understand the numbers.

Avex counts the copies they sell to the stores.
RIAJ certificates how much copies were sold to stores.
Oricon counts the number of copies people bought on those stores.

Avex will always have larger numbers than Oricon unless the album is totally sold out and no more copies are made.

So, if there were produced 150,000 copies, and the public buy 90,000 of those, Avex will anounce it sold 100,000, while Oricon will count 90,000 and RIAJ will certificate gold (100,000 - 250,000) copies, as more than 100k copies were shipped, but less than enough to certificate it platinum (250k).

But Oricon can't count 100% of copies sold to the public, as they can't keep track on every small store that sells albums in Japan, and they only count 1/3 of total sales from events and concerts, as there's no way of making sure the label is lying about sales (Oricon is just a magazine, it's not like they have power to force any label to tell them the right numbers and check it on the label's stock).

So, considering concert and event sales, as events were a big part of promotion on this era, I wouldn't be surprised if Ayu actual weekly sales are higher than Koda's, considering the gap between their sales are minimal... But we will never know it for sure, so, I don't think anybody should really worry about it... In the end of the day, more important than having big Oricon numbers, is the money the album sales make... So, even if a worst "official" position, only Avex knows how well the albums are doing^^

AyuBlackwind 29th April 2012 05:44 PM

@KuuXAyu-fan
@Andrenekoi

Oh, OK. That makes sense.

Thanks.

brener 30th April 2012 09:20 PM

no update today?=D

KuuXAyu-fan 30th April 2012 11:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brener (Post 2858828)
no update today?=D

She was 34 for the 6th and 7th day. :)

brener 1st May 2012 01:00 AM

thanks a lot!!!

TeamAyu2004 1st May 2012 03:12 AM

go ayumi!

brener 1st May 2012 03:43 AM

hoping for a 2k week!

Corvina 1st May 2012 10:18 AM

Weekly sales:
#43 2,532 浜崎あゆみ

Total Sales So Far: 135,807

SURREAL__RAINBOW 1st May 2012 10:52 AM

I think 135k is good for this album :) I'm happy with that number for sure, but still, hope it keeps on selling a bit more!

Thanks for the update!


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