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Andrenekoi 3rd September 2020 03:55 AM

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Originally Posted by DavidChaiLatte (Post 3327115)
I've been thinking about this lately. Was the whole cutesy slow "ayu wa this, ayu wa that" personality when she first debuted just a "character" she was playing, kinda like what Poppy had been doing before she parted away from her ex producer?



People have drawn comparisons between this and the whole "Tomo-chan" act from Tomomi Kahara. Seeing how Ayu dropped it rather quickly after her rise to superstardom, I can't help but wonder if her label pressured her into acting that way at first to make a lasting impression on TV?

PS: It's kinda crazy to see how the "dumb" ayu-chan in that video is the same person as the fierce lady in this interview:


If I remember it right, because its more than 10 years since I read it, she openly says it was part of the marketing strategy during that Time Magazine special from the I Am... era.

mizuki-7 3rd September 2020 07:49 AM

Of course it was a character she acted a little like a Burikko (ぶりっ子) idol because it’s something Japaneses tends to appreciate but when you read Her interviews and how she expresses herself it’s obvious that a lot of thing was staged and she agreed with that for the sake of the Ayu image.

koumori 3rd September 2020 03:24 PM

It's not really fair to compare a teenage Ayu with an interview done with her two decades later. As a marketing strategy though, it's pretty common. People hate young women enough as it is without them being opinionated and smart, so it's easier to sell the idea of a cute but innocent/dumb personality. We still see this today.

It's likely that Ayu found it easy to agree to because it meant a lot less pressure on her in the public eye while her position in Avex was still unsteady. I think she still indulges in the cute/childish behavior sometimes even later on and doesn't mind it, but stopped using it as a way of self-expression as soon as she had more control over her image.

Andrenekoi 3rd September 2020 03:36 PM

I reready the article... It wasn't her saying that, but the writer suggesting it might be the case. It was an interesting read, even if the article points every time how everyone but Hikki in the jpop industry had no talent.

koumori 3rd September 2020 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 3327139)
I reready the article... It wasn't her saying that, but the writer suggesting it might be the case. It was an interesting read, even if the article points every time how everyone but Hikki in the jpop industry had no talent.

You were thinking of this part, right? It reads transparently to me.


https://i.imgur.com/mCMPkLU.png

Andrenekoi 3rd September 2020 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Koumori (Post 3327147)


You were thinking of this part, right? It reads transparently to me.


https://i.imgur.com/mCMPkLU.png

Yep. That part. I tried to locate it though the text and couldn't find it. Lol.

pedronekoi 3rd September 2020 08:41 PM

We have to consider the age and experience as well. In the first video she was 20 yo and the other one se was 38 yo.

I wish someone do something like that for Ayu singles:


truehappiness 3rd September 2020 10:47 PM

I see that way of doing things as part of her way to separate "Ayu" from "Hamasaki Ayumi" but she loosened up on that heavily in the years after RAINBOW/A BALLADS.

pedronekoi 4th September 2020 05:01 PM

I was watching Janet Jackson's Velvet Rope Tour from 99 and I was surprised with how much inspiration Ayu took from Janet. We often say she gots lots of inspiration from Madonna, Kylie and Britney but OMG. The Cirque de Minuit is literally the Velvet Rope Tour lol

Earth_maiden 5th September 2020 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by ExodusUK (Post 3327011)
This youtube channel is fun, a Korean super fan who has provided Eng subs for his videos -
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC5X...I9AXAkGxbGXJOQ



His universal "aioo not this song again.." commentary is relatable on the a-nation video lol

Timmy had another instalive today and Hwang was commenting, Timmy said he watched his reaction video to a-nation which was really nice. :)

truehappiness 6th September 2020 02:02 AM

Oh that's pretty neat. Timmy must watch all the YT videos from ayumix 2020 and stuff too.

Evan Odinson 8th September 2020 03:47 AM

Today I received my copy of the manga "Miracle passion" and I'll translate it to English and Spanish :luv2

Chibi-Chan 8th September 2020 04:44 PM

I would love a concert just with remixes of her songs. She has so many great remixes and I think it would be great to see (and hear) those in concert.

surrealA 8th September 2020 05:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Evan Odinson (Post 3327435)
Today I received my copy of the manga "Miracle passion" and I'll translate it to English and Spanish :luv2

Is it the one based on Ayu? :luv2

maxikot 8th September 2020 06:26 PM

^ yes!

ExodusUK 10th September 2020 01:44 AM

I know it's not over just yet but this year has to be the best Ayu year for some time. It started with a great CDL, music, new videos, releases and even a baby:love

tokyoxjapanxfan 15th September 2020 06:49 AM

Watching her more recent lives (unedited and definitely live ones), I’m very glad that over the past 12 years I’ve been able to see Ayu perform.

I’m very worried about the deterioration of her voice / hearing, and I do think that at some point it’ll be very very hard for her.

She was never a traditional “vocalist” in the sense of like, Cher or Streisand, and in fact I've spoken time some people here who say basically that Ayu “ruined” her own voice by relying on her head voice instead of using her proper register. But whatever the case, I know how much performing means to her, and I hope she’ll be able to do it as long as she can.

himawariii6 15th September 2020 01:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Chibi-Chan (Post 3327477)
I would love a concert just with remixes of her songs. She has so many great remixes and I think it would be great to see (and hear) those in concert.

Me too!

hud 15th September 2020 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Chibi-Chan (Post 3327477)
I would love a concert just with remixes of her songs. She has so many great remixes and I think it would be great to see (and hear) those in concert.

I would looooove an acoustic concert too. both of them would probably be soo amazing.

Deep snow 15th September 2020 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by hud (Post 3327896)
I would looooove an acoustic concert too. both of them would probably be soo amazing.

also, the operas and classical! I imagine the A Classical version of Love song would be SO AMAZING if performed live with full orchestra :luv2


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