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Sundae 13th January 2009 06:12 AM

Of course the singles had to keep coming. What was Avex supposed to do when Moon had less than spectacular sales? Just stop and wait until next year to release material? No way. They had to keep moving forward. Avex obviously likes to keep a schedule when it comes to their artists. While I would like it if she concentrated on quality, unfortunately quality doesn't always sell the best. We have seen artists release quality singles and they don't chart well. For Avex, quantity is better than quality.

Avex is jonesing to release a best album for her. I hope they wait until the 10th year. We still have the Best Works and whatever thing. Not sure how excited anyone is for that.

jbrat2219 13th January 2009 06:17 AM

^ You got a point there... But Kuu's single sales haven't really been all that great to begin with right? Or am I mistaken?

Zeke. 13th January 2009 06:17 AM

^ I thought that was canceled!?

mangoo_x3 13th January 2009 06:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cutieismylife (Post 1778360)
not necessarily true. there was a 5 and a half month wait for MOON after Kingdom and the sales for that were mediocre, and a 4 month wait for TABOO after MOON, which had really low sales. so, when she is releasing things quickly, her sales added up end up being quite a bit.

also i don't like waiting long for new releases, so i'm glad she's pumping things out now. so that way if i don't like something, it won't be MONTHS until i hear something new.


MOON had GOOD sales due to the fact Ku only sang Moon Crying to promote MOON whereas her last 4 element single she performed more than just FREAKY. Also TABOO had less tracks. Yes of course sales will add up but thats the point I'm trying to make.

Also if she releases so many things so quick people are bound to become broke and not have enough money for a single or not willing to spend more money on another single.

Yes her releasing singles fast keeps us all entertained but thats not the point. I believe the longer it takes for an artist to release an single the more anticipation it will have, I mean look at Ayu and her DAYS / Green single, sure it probably won't hit as high as Ayu but you do kinda understand what I'm trying to say right?

I prefer ku with high selling singles rather than just more singles and less sales.


Quote:

Originally Posted by Sundae (Post 1778538)
We have seen artists release quality singles and they don't chart well. For Avex, quantity is better than quality.

Well Ku is different from those artist because she actually / probably does have a bigger name than other artists. Also quality singles will chart well, it just depends on how long can people listen to the song and not get annoyed like "Soba ni iru ne".

darkcarousel 13th January 2009 06:20 AM

It's been a long time since I posted in a Kuu thread.

I hope TRICK becomes one of my favorite albums!

I'm not listening to the leaked tracks that much because I always get burned out of the song before the actual release. Happens all the time, haha, especially with Ayu and Kuu.

Zeke. 13th January 2009 06:21 AM

So what the deal with the WORKS & REMIX BEST COLLABORATION?

HMV still has it available for order and says it was released in March 2008. Lol.

http://www.hmv.com.hk/product/japanese.asp?sku=113379

EDIT: Found this tracklisting and it was posted Dec. 26th 2008:

Titre : LIVES ~BEST COLLABORATION~
Sortie : 06/08/2008

Tracklist :
01. HOT STUFF - 倖田來未
02. Swallowtail Butterfly ~ai no uta~ - 倖田來未 feat.Chara
03. Koware Kake no Radio - 倖田來未 feat.Tokunaga Hideaki
04. I FEEL LOVE - 倖田來未 feat.BLUE MAN GROUP
05. THE CHRISTMAS SONG - 倖田來未 feat.Orquestra De La Luz
06. We Will Rock You - 倖田來未
07. TRUE LOVE - 倖田來未 feat.Fujii Fumiya
08. Atashi Nande Dakishimetai n Darou - 倖田來未 feat.Chara
09. VENUS - 倖田來未
10. Lion Heart - 倖田來未 feat.SMAP
11. Get It On - 倖田來未
12. Tsubasa wo Kudasai - 倖田來未 feat.GAKU-MC
13. Swallowtail Butterfly ~ai no uta~ - 倖田來未 [BONUS TRACK

Titre : WORKS ~BEST COLLABORATION~
Sortie : 01/08/2008

Tracklist :
01. SWITCH - 倖田來未 feat.LISA&Heartsdales
02. Rainy Day - 倖田來未 feat.KM-MARKIT
03. Super Sonic - 倖田來未 feat.Daisuke D.I. Imai
04. JOY - 倖田來未 meets TRF
05. the meaning of peace - 倖田來未 feat.BoA
06. Just Go - 倖田來未 feat.JHETT
07. Simple & Lovely - 倖田來未 feat.m-flo
08. Every-After-Party - 倖田來未 feat.Rather Unique
09. Be mine - 倖田來未 feat.99% Radio Allstars
10. Twinkle - 倖田來未 feat.Show Luo
11. BELIEVE - 倖田來未 feat.DJ Yutaka
12. XXX - 倖田來未 feat.SOULHEAD
13. Everybody - 倖田來未 feat.SMAP [BONUS TRACK]

WTF! I wanted REMIXES!

Sundae 13th January 2009 06:24 AM

@mangoo_x3-So something like absence makes the heart grow fonder?

@all.night.raver-Yeah it was cancelled but they could still release it. What was on that anyway? All I remember was the Rock you song and the Venus thing.

darkcarousel 13th January 2009 06:25 AM

Holy crap! People can actually afford this stuff?

That's weird. Maybe it was a typo? Maybe March 2009? I don't know much about releases and such.

Zeke. 13th January 2009 06:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sundae (Post 1778549)
@mangoo_x3-So something like absence makes the heart grow fonder?

@all.night.raver-Yeah it was canceled but they could still release it. What was on that anyway? All I remember was the Rock you song and the Venus thing.

Yeah there was a different rumored track listing but the one above is different and seems more detailed...?

LuverOfLuv 13th January 2009 06:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by all.night.raver (Post 1778546)
EDIT: Found this tracklisting and it was posted Dec. 26th 2008:

Titre : LIVES ~BEST COLLABORATION~
Sortie : 06/08/2008

Tracklist :
01. HOT STUFF - 倖田來未
02. Swallowtail Butterfly ~ai no uta~ - 倖田來未 feat.Chara
03. Koware Kake no Radio - 倖田來未 feat.Tokunaga Hideaki
04. I FEEL LOVE - 倖田來未 feat.BLUE MAN GROUP
05. THE CHRISTMAS SONG - 倖田來未 feat.Orquestra De La Luz
06. We Will Rock You - 倖田來未
07. TRUE LOVE - 倖田來未 feat.Fujii Fumiya
08. Atashi Nande Dakishimetai n Darou - 倖田來未 feat.Chara
09. VENUS - 倖田來未
10. Lion Heart - 倖田來未 feat.SMAP
11. Get It On - 倖田來未
12. Tsubasa wo Kudasai - 倖田來未 feat.GAKU-MC
13. Swallowtail Butterfly ~ai no uta~ - 倖田來未 [BONUS TRACK

Titre : WORKS ~BEST COLLABORATION~
Sortie : 01/08/2008

Tracklist :
01. SWITCH - 倖田來未 feat.LISA&Heartsdales
02. Rainy Day - 倖田來未 feat.KM-MARKIT
03. Super Sonic - 倖田來未 feat.Daisuke D.I. Imai
04. JOY - 倖田來未 meets TRF
05. the meaning of peace - 倖田來未 feat.BoA
06. Just Go - 倖田來未 feat.JHETT
07. Simple & Lovely - 倖田來未 feat.m-flo
08. Every-After-Party - 倖田來未 feat.Rather Unique
09. Be mine - 倖田來未 feat.99% Radio Allstars
10. Twinkle - 倖田來未 feat.Show Luo
11. BELIEVE - 倖田來未 feat.DJ Yutaka
12. XXX - 倖田來未 feat.SOULHEAD
13. Everybody - 倖田來未 feat.SMAP [BONUS TRACK]

WTF! I wanted REMIXES!

That's a fanmade compilation, made by KumiLoveS fansite... :yes

Zeke. 13th January 2009 06:42 AM

^ Thank God. Lol.

CoriKaru 13th January 2009 06:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Sundae (Post 1778538)
Of course the singles had to keep coming. What was Avex supposed to do when Moon had less than spectacular sales? Just stop and wait until next year to release material? No way. They had to keep moving forward. Avex obviously likes to keep a schedule when it comes to their artists. While I would like it if she concentrated on quality, unfortunately quality doesn't always sell the best. We have seen artists release quality singles and they don't chart well. For Avex, quantity is better than quality.

Avex is jonesing to release a best album for her. I hope they wait until the 10th year. We still have the Best Works and whatever thing. Not sure how excited anyone is for that.

Well you know what they say about doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different end result.....

Sundae 13th January 2009 07:10 AM

That's probably the point then. They just want the money. When Avex no longer pays any attention to her is when we need to worry.

Zeke. 13th January 2009 07:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CoriKaru (Post 1778569)
Well you know what they say about doing the same thing over and over again and expecting a different end result.....

it's the definition of insanity :yes

But sometimes avex is a little insane I guess. Lol.

love in music 13th January 2009 07:51 AM

yeah i'm glad that was fake. it would be totally lame

njanjayrp 13th January 2009 08:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mangoo_x3 (Post 1778544)
MOON had GOOD sales due to the fact Ku only sang Moon Crying to promote MOON whereas her last 4 element single she performed more than just FREAKY. Also TABOO had less tracks. Yes of course sales will add up but thats the point I'm trying to make.

Also if she releases so many things so quick people are bound to become broke and not have enough money for a single or not willing to spend more money on another single.

Yes her releasing singles fast keeps us all entertained but thats not the point. I believe the longer it takes for an artist to release an single the more anticipation it will have, I mean look at Ayu and her DAYS / Green single, sure it probably won't hit as high as Ayu but you do kinda understand what I'm trying to say right?

I prefer ku with high selling singles rather than just more singles and less sales.




Well Ku is different from those artist because she actually / probably does have a bigger name than other artists. Also quality singles will chart well, it just depends on how long can people listen to the song and not get annoyed like "Soba ni iru ne".

Remember how Ku got popular in the first place -> the were releasing singles like crazy both prior to 1st Best things, and of course the 2nd Session. And she has continued to releases at least four singles a year since, though in 2008 she just released 3, which appearently wasn't enough for AVEX.
People loosing interest doesn't have a lot to do with the fact that someone's broke and can't buy a single. We all know that boybands release multiple versions of their singles, and releases like crazy over the year, and their sales are still extremely high. And it doesn't matter TABOO had less tracks, Ai no uta and many of her other singles had the same number of tracks but still sold better. Hopefully TRICK won't go below 450 k~

freedreamer 13th January 2009 08:24 AM

acutally i like the WORKS ~BEST COLLABORATION~

LuverOfLuv 13th January 2009 08:37 AM

I'm post more Trick previews in downloads:

http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84967

KarenPang 13th January 2009 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mangoo_x3 (Post 1778329)
I think she should save her best album on her 10th anniversary in the music industry because it will have a better meaning.

yeah I don't want another A BEST 2 incident from happening again

freedreamer 13th January 2009 09:40 AM

FROM THE NEW LQ PREVIEWS

Ai no Kotoba - sounds alright. There is potential to be a good song. Hope it doesnt get too repititive...reminds me of Ai no Uta

Hurry Up - This is definitely some new rock style...SOUNDS VERY COOL! Though i have a big problem catching the beat...

Intro to TRICK - OMG VERY NICE!!..*Bounce Bounce* I hope this song becomes a REAL song

JUST THE WAY YOU ARE - I think i will like this song esp the way she sings it...not too overly cute though its a Very cute song!! I like the violin inside..which makes it teresting...

This is not a Love song - Gotta hear the full thing first...cant figure out the tune at all lol...i heard.."this is not AHH love song" Lol...

I think this album is quite good...hehehe. Has potential. I have to say, its her most daring attempt and experimental at that too. VERY KAKOII


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