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maikaru 19th October 2010 05:36 PM
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Originally Posted by crea_spain (Post 2525654)
Lol whaaaaaaaat???? she never sent me anything, I got this DVD from 4.22 MC's Osaka concert because I asked her by twitter if could get it to remember this magical night, nothing else.
I sometimes read blogs of TA members, and also Mixi of Ayu's group, and yeah there were some really immature people saying about why she pointed you out at the concert, and gave you DVD of the MC, etc, when no one else gets such another treatment...

I think what many people have to understand that Japanese fans of Ayu are mostly young people who are not so mature, and get jealous at everything, because Ayu is there's and no one else. LOL.

ohsixthirty 19th October 2010 05:41 PM
I think that's the key. Ayu belongs to them!

But they didn't have to fly halfway around the world to see her and pay for a trip to Tokyo and airfare. I mean, I think it may have been the moment when Ayu realized some foreign fans were attending her concerts too.

It's kind of selfish of them to act this way.

jbrat2219 19th October 2010 05:48 PM
They're just reluctant to change. For years Ayu has been theirs and now all of a sudden foreign fans a getting a little spotlight and they act up. They still are way more privileged than we are. Even if they're not a member of TA. They get to go see her WHENEVER THEY WANT every year. They get to watch her on TV, get her music as soon as possible, and even in the rare time she makes a public appearance, they're the ones that get to fill the streets. They are the ones with a higher chance of autographed goods. They get so much more, why are they complaining about a little info slip up?

ohsixthirty 19th October 2010 05:51 PM
I dont even know if there was a slip up. I thought Ayu was talking about ordering stuff for next years Arena Tour, not CDL.

Good thing they don't know TA entries are reposted all over the web. Lol.

C+R+E+AYUMI 19th October 2010 05:54 PM
i thought it was about arena tour too, she never mentioned CDL since the subject of her claim was the arena tour

ohsixthirty 19th October 2010 06:10 PM
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Originally Posted by C+R+E+AYUMI (Post 2525682)
i thought it was about arena tour too, she never mentioned CDL since the subject of her claim was the arena tour
Exactly. Who knows though. I'm just sad that Japanese and foreign Ayu fans seem to always be at odds. :(

NeK Hamasaki 19th October 2010 06:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Max_ZZZ (Post 2525632)
i hope all these rude posts influence her to making a bombass rock song (y)
LOL
I'm with you on this one :yes

LizBrazil 19th October 2010 06:58 PM
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Originally Posted by maikaru (Post 2525643)
People are upset because those people who are paying 4000 yen or more for TA club every year are not getting exclusive information first, or any official announcements before other people.

For example, Ayu said that she was looking and ordering for countdown con on twitter, but she hasn't said anything about that on TA. So there's a lot of people who feel jealous and are questioning why they have to pay for TA when she gives all information free on Twitter.

And then Ayu said that there hasn't been an official announcement, which is a contradiction as said before, because she already said she ordered the machines.

There are many TA members who are kind of angry because Ayu seems to be favouring some fans, especially the Crea_spain guy, and some girl named Saori?? I remember I read some tweets by TA members saying they don't get special DVDs or gifts from Ayu, but Crea_spain does. I don't really understand about them, but... I think they are just really young and really insecure.

I think they are just kind of angry and jealous, and I guess if I were paying like 50$ american per year for something that is being undermined, then I guess I'd be angry too LOL
I think the girl is named Shiori (http://twitter.com/shi_luv). I noticed it too that Ayu replies to her a lot, but all 3783 tweets made by this girl are addressed to Ayu. LOL, I think it's only logical that Ayu would notice her tweets and replies to them.

ohsixthirty 19th October 2010 07:04 PM
^I love that her profile ends in "sorry dont follow me.".

Tasked 19th October 2010 07:07 PM
We are ALL ayufans, gosh, what is their problem? People in Japan get SO MUCH extras.. Is it so bad that ONE foreign fan gets this kind of attention? Can't we just be happy for crea_spain?
We are ALL ayufans; and I'd hate to see us divided into two groups. Geez, this isn't Belgium for heaven's sake!

love in music 19th October 2010 07:10 PM
thanks Misa-chan and maikaru
being a TA member, I can kind of understand where they're coming from. I probably won't renew my membership once it runs out because of the lack of special treatment we get there. I think twitter > TA for connection with ayu. I'm not really butthurt about it though, some fans really need to grow up and stop acting like they can control ayu. I hope ayu will start posting pictures of herself on twitter too just to see how these controlling butthurt fans would act. I bet some people would be so angry they'd stop being her fan. good, she doesn't need immature brats like that in her fandom :yes

ohsixthirty 19th October 2010 07:16 PM
What they need to do is redesign TA, make it easier fir foreign fans to join, and offer more gifts to TA. :yes

Misa-chan 19th October 2010 07:21 PM
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Originally Posted by identity (Post 2525772)
thanks Misa-chan and maikaru
being a TA member, I can kind of understand where they're coming from. I probably won't renew my membership once it runs out because of the lack of special treatment we get there. I think twitter > TA for connection with ayu. I'm not really butthurt about it though, some fans really need to grow up and stop acting like they can control ayu. I hope ayu will start posting pictures of herself on twitter too just to see how these controlling butthurt fans would act. I bet some people would be so angry they'd stop being her fan. good, she doesn't need immature brats like that in her fandom :yes
It's less about immaturity and more about money, I guess. Like I said before, TA's a paid club, members will naturally expect to get first-hand info if they paid for it. And it's definitely true that Twitter, not TA, is the way to go if you want ayu to actually notice you as who you are and reply. For TA, sending in a message to ayu is one-way, there's no way she can reply. So I understand why these Japanese TA fans get upset.

But it's unreasonable in this case though. Because ayu did mention about ordering materials for her next concert in her latest TA entry already. It's not like she announced that only on Twitter.

love in music 19th October 2010 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Misa-chan (Post 2525789)
It's less about immaturity and more about money, I guess. Like I said before, TA's a paid club, members will naturally expect to get first-hand info if they paid for it. And it's definitely true that Twitter, not TA, is the way to go if you want ayu to actually notice you as who you are and reply. For TA, sending in a message to ayu is one-way, there's no way she can reply. So I understand why these Japanese TA fans get upset.

But it's unreasonable in this case though. Because ayu did mention about ordering materials for her next concert in her latest TA entry already. It's not like she announced that only on Twitter.
I found this comment that you translated to be very immature:

"I've always believed in ayu, but this belief is wavering recently because of here (Twitter)."

like, seriously? Your faith in ayu is determined by silly things like getting announcements before anyone else? it's pretty ridiculous.

ayufan- 19th October 2010 07:32 PM
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Originally Posted by Rody! (Post 2525766)
We are ALL ayufans, gosh, what is their problem? People in Japan get SO MUCH extras.. Is it so bad that ONE foreign fan gets this kind of attention? Can't we just be happy for crea_spain?
We are ALL ayufans; and I'd hate to see us divided into two groups. Geez, this isn't Belgium for heaven's sake!
I hope i am not trolling

It is true about that we're all fans and stuff. But I think PERSONALLY they japanese fans paid for TA and maybe there are a bit in there right. I understand them, trough TA you can't get ''contact'' with ayu like Twitter.

And i am really really happy for crea-spain, let that eb clear. But maybe i think, i want a reaction too, after soooo much tweeting to her and never a reply, i would be also nice to get one, i don't need by every tweet i send her an reaction, but if she spreads the reaction i think it would be more fair for every fan. That means not only one fan get the chance to ''talk'' with her.
LET IT BE CLEAR: i ahve nothing against crea-spain or gigi or other spain fans, i am happy for them. But i think it would be more fair for other fans.

But if i had to choose i would her prefer to react on these peosons then having no twitter at all.

I hope i am not trolling, i just had to say whatever i felt in my heart.

ohsixthirty 19th October 2010 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by ayufan- (Post 2525803)
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The thing about spreading replies around though is that there will always be someone who doesn't get a reply. If you search on Twitter you will see Ayu gets SO many messages! I mean, she isn't been on right now but she's getting about one message per minute, but once she starts twittering fans go wild and she gets SOOO many messages that it's just impossible for her to keep up. She might try to spread the replies around but I'm sure it's very hard.

Edit: Actually I checked, she last tweeter 4 hours ago and during that hour she received about 425 tweets. That's more than 1 tweet every ten seconds. It is not possible for her to ensure things stay spread out. :shrug

ayufan- 19th October 2010 07:54 PM
^yeah i get thta but replying often to teh same person, that isn't teh most fair thing, that's my point

BlackSilence 19th October 2010 07:58 PM
^she's not the only celebrity I know who does that - replies to some people repeatidly. I can understand what you're trying to say, but at some point I can understand her too. Blegh..the fact is it can't be helpped..

LizBrazil 19th October 2010 07:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Rody! (Post 2525766)
We are ALL ayufans, gosh, what is their problem? People in Japan get SO MUCH extras.. Is it so bad that ONE foreign fan gets this kind of attention? Can't we just be happy for crea_spain?
We are ALL ayufans; and I'd hate to see us divided into two groups. Geez, this isn't Belgium for heaven's sake!
LOL :laugh Actually, the people aren't divided in two groups though, it's just our political parties who can't seem to compromise and get us a government after the voting in June :innocent

I'm never jealous of any fan who get a reply from Ayu, I'm just happy for them :)

ayufan- 19th October 2010 08:01 PM
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Originally Posted by artcika (Post 2525823)
^she's not the only celebrity I know who does that - replies to some people repeatidly. I can understand what you're trying to say, but at some point I can understand her too. Blegh..the fact is it can't be helpped..
ooh really, who if i may ask?

It isn't that i don't undrestand her, i fully understand her because she met them in real life, but still.....


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