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Pieces_of_SEVEN 18th October 2012 05:04 AM

^CTFU

happiholic★ 18th October 2012 05:16 AM

I've kinda come to love Christina's raunchy side. I also love her aggressiveness about it. I honestly think that she's just that kind of person. Honestly, it seems more like female sexual empowerment, than just being raunchy. Even the Dirrty video, she said that she always had to be in control. Also, she does have her "Beautiful" style songs.

But, I think it can be too in-your-face, and she seems to put more emphasis on those tracks, rather than her softer side. So, I can see it being off putting to others.

KremlinChaos 21st October 2012 02:34 PM

Here's the updated tracklist

1. Lotus Intro
2. Army Of Me
3. Red Hot Kinda Love
4. Make The World Move (feat. CeeLo Green)
5. Your Body
6. Let There Be Love
7. Sing For Me
8. Blank Page
9. Cease Fire
10. Around The World
11. Circles
12. Best Of Me
13. Just A Fool (feat. Blake Shelton)
14. Light Up The Sky
15. Empty Words
16. Shut Up
17. Your Body (Martin Garrix Remix)

Red Hot Kinda Love samples 54-46 Was My Number


Make The World Move (feat. CeeLo Green) samples Let's Find Out


Your Body (Martin Garrix Remix)

inthezone 22nd October 2012 08:22 PM

I feel like this album is going to be a mess like Bionic, she has no real direction she wants to go in so it's all over the place and not in a good experimental way. Wish she didn't care about commercial success anymore and just did the music she wants to make.

BlackSilence 22nd October 2012 09:45 PM

Army of me?
that's the exact name of Bjork's song..lol

Delicious n Bold 22nd October 2012 10:39 PM

If Xtina were to flop, I wonder what the ATRL stans would say/do.
Oh lord...

xLitax 22nd October 2012 11:15 PM

Hopefully it does well. It doesn't really matter though, as she's been around for a long time. I just hope I like the songs.

inthezone 23rd October 2012 05:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delicious n Bold (Post 2921688)
If Xtina were to flop, I wonder what the ATRL stans would say/do.
Oh lord...

She's been a flop for years. Her stans are delusional and will ignore it.

xLitax 23rd October 2012 08:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delicious n Bold (Post 2921688)
If Xtina were to flop, I wonder what the ATRL stans would say/do.
Oh lord...

What's ATRL?

Delicious n Bold 23rd October 2012 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xLitax (Post 2922163)
What's ATRL?

Its a music forum.
Like AHS, but it revolves around western music. Most members are... very fanatical.

xLitax 23rd October 2012 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delicious n Bold (Post 2922167)
Its a music forum.
Like AHS, but it revolves around western music. Most members are... very fanatical.

:laugh

This is the only music forum I've ever been on. Freaking stans.

isthisLOL? 23rd October 2012 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inthezone (Post 2922089)
She's been a flop for years. Her stans are delusional and will ignore it.

She has released ONE flop album, and even that did moderately well.

inthezone 23rd October 2012 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by isthisLOL? (Post 2922189)
She has released ONE flop album, and even that did moderately well.

It sold 310k in the US lmao and it did less than a million worlwide. And the singles did terrible aswell so it was a flop album.
I hope she does well though because I like her.

milky_way 23rd October 2012 09:55 PM

I swear sometimes the "haters" care more about Xtina than the stans do :/

isthisLOL? 23rd October 2012 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inthezone (Post 2922191)
It sold 310k in the US lmao and it did less than a million worlwide. And the singles did terrible aswell so it was a flop album.
I hope she does well though because I like her.

You consider that a flop? I guess we just have very, very different standarts. I would be more than happy if some of my faves could sell 310k in the US. Or even 150k. And she already was what - 10 years into her career? Most pop artists sell 50k at that time.
I consider any album that gets back the production cost and sells according to it's promotion a success. Bionic was barely promoted and most certainly made the money back multiple times -> no flop for me.

Delicious n Bold 23rd October 2012 09:59 PM

You know, if Ayu sold 310k, then everybody here would be ecstatic :P
and 310k for Ayu right now in this kind of economic climate would be amazing.

xLitax 23rd October 2012 10:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by isthisLOL? (Post 2922194)
You consider that a flop? I guess we just have very, very different standarts. I would be more than happy if some of my faves could sell 310k in the US. Or even 150k. And she already was what - 10 years into her career? Most pop artists sell 50k at that time.
I consider any album that gets back the production cost and sells according to it's promotion a success. Bionic was barely promoted and most certainly made the money back multiple times -> no flop for me.

It was a flop for Christina. :D She can sell way more and I hope this new album does.

Zeke. 23rd October 2012 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by inthezone (Post 2922089)
She's been a flop for years. Her stans are delusional and will ignore it.

Lmfao.

JackieRos 24th October 2012 12:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by milky_way (Post 2922193)
I swear sometimes the "haters" care more about Xtina than the stans do :/

hah exactly

hayasaki 24th October 2012 12:21 PM

Sorry for being off topic. But can anyone help me know when is Lotus be released here in Japan?

TeamAyu2004 24th October 2012 02:46 PM

Man, talking about Bionic again?
What a horrible mess...
Yes... what a flop. 310K by american standards and world wide... that. is. BAD.

inthezone 24th October 2012 03:38 PM

Female solo artists are more popular than ever now in the US so I don't understand why she's doing so bad.

Delicious n Bold 24th October 2012 03:38 PM

I find it kinda funny that Xtina said the album 'will be appreciated by real music people in the future'.
I beg to differ. Very much. The album is good, but its not that great. I got bored of it within a month and don't dare listen to it.

TeamAyu2004 24th October 2012 04:06 PM

^ maybe it has to do with not being radio friendly?

I guess it could be good, but to me it was horrible.

happiholic★ 29th October 2012 01:10 AM

There were some hits and misses on Bionic for me, but that's just like many other albums. I just focus on the ones I really enjoy.

NintendoHTF1242 29th October 2012 03:51 AM

I was booty-poppin' to Desnudate and Glam all day omg

hayasaki 29th October 2012 10:56 PM

I actually find BIONIC a fun pop album. I listen to it without skipping a track on my work. It makes time fly fast. XD

Delicious n Bold 1st November 2012 04:47 PM



Best tell ya friends and listen soon. They're gonna pull this down faster than Kumi Kuu's Kingdom promo.

TeamAyu2004 1st November 2012 04:49 PM

i heard the album leaked just to find out its previews!! :headache

this will do i guess... lol, -.-

Delicious n Bold 1st November 2012 05:32 PM

Everyone on atrl thought it leaked or something.
We know that Xtina HERSELF leaked. Bionic also leaked. But lotus has yet to leak :(

jyujiw 1st November 2012 05:57 PM

Damn it. It's down already. -_-'

Leaf King 1st November 2012 06:28 PM

Nothing really stands out in the preview. I had the tiniest hope she might do something that would blow me away like Stripped and Back to Basics did, but so far I'm unimpressed. I didn't care for Bionic, but at least some of the songs had incredible vocals.

TeamAyu2004 1st November 2012 06:47 PM

its down already?! Man, glad I got to it..

the previews... were... well, there wasnt anything special for me... some stuff sound good, so some tracks im looking forward too.
So far it sound about 10x better then the entire Bionic album, so thats a plus.

Delicious n Bold 1st November 2012 07:05 PM

i need to lurk atrl and find another snippet source XD

.... Nevermind
the snippets are gone EVERYWHERE. Kingdom eat your heart out.

jyujiw 1st November 2012 08:20 PM

I'm kinda... unimpressed too.

I don't know, it sounds commercially cheap. Bionic at least had a experimental sounding.

It's strange, nothing really caught my attention. I hope to be wrong though.

TeamAyu2004 1st November 2012 08:32 PM

idk, give me commercially cheap any day.
those are the hits for me! I dont think any of this songs will be in the top 10... but i could change my mind once i hear full versions!

Kingdom 1st November 2012 08:39 PM

I love "love your body" but I don't think the rest of the album will be good. I'm waiting for full songs!

Her judging skills on The Voice really sucks this season, I dunno what's up!

TeamAyu2004 1st November 2012 09:11 PM

^ I do believe she said this will be her last season, so its most likely that she just doesnt care anymore.

xLitax 1st November 2012 11:07 PM

I don't listen to previews. No point anyway, as the album is out in less than two weeks.

kotora 2nd November 2012 09:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 2925453)
^ I do believe she said this will be her last season, so its most likely that she just doesnt care anymore.

Does she want to take a break from the Voice?

TeamAyu2004 2nd November 2012 04:46 PM

i think she just said she wanted to stop doing it.
Appearing on a show like that takes a lot of time since its live and you pretty much put your life on hold while its airing.

Plus, I'll assume she wants to tour and what not as well, and she wont be able to do that next year if she is on the show.

http://www.eonline.com/news/347915/c...obably-be-back

here is just one interview from eonline... there are tons of others from google as well.

Delicious n Bold 2nd November 2012 06:42 PM

I hope she doesn't cancel her tour this time. I kinda wanna go see her in concert.

I wonder what would happen if Lotus were to flop...

TeamAyu2004 2nd November 2012 07:03 PM

^ Oh, did she cancel her last tour... (wouldnt be surprised when you have an album that flops as bad a Bionic... lol).

This is really up in the air... I havent heard her single on the radio yet, but I sure they have been talking about it on the Voice... that would be great promotion since millions of view that on a weekly basis.

Delicious n Bold 2nd November 2012 07:09 PM

^ i don't think it has. The delirious Xtina stans on ATRL have been clamouring for promotion on the voice. Xtina has yet to perform the song, to my knowledge.
it also has been flopping on the Billboard Hot 100.

TeamAyu2004 2nd November 2012 07:19 PM

^ that sucks.
She needs to get off her new big and beautiful booty and work it, making the song a smash. lol

Delicious n Bold 3rd November 2012 03:50 AM

The album leaked.
Edit: It's only Bionic.
GRRR

xLitax 3rd November 2012 10:25 PM

Blank Page:


JackieRos 4th November 2012 01:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 2925819)
She needs to get off her new big and beautiful booty and work it, making the song a smash. lol

I love this eheheh

Leaf King 4th November 2012 01:47 AM

Her voice is wonderful, there's no denying it.
But, when I'm lost in the admiration of her voice alone and not the song, then I know I'm not going to be a fan of the song. Despite listening to the lyrics attentively, I only really get into the song at 2:56, then some 35 seconds later, she loses me again.
Good effort, vocally.

kotora 5th November 2012 07:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Leaf King (Post 2926527)
Her voice is wonderful, there's no denying it.
But, when I'm lost in the admiration of her voice alone and not the song, then I know I'm not going to be a fan of the song. Despite listening to the lyrics attentively, I only really get into the song at 2:56, then some 35 seconds later, she loses me again.
Good effort, vocally.

It gives me some feelings of Beautiful.

Jester 5th November 2012 10:12 PM

Around the World is flawless *crying*

isthisLOL? 5th November 2012 10:14 PM

Has the full album leaked? It feels like it's taking so long xD

inthezone 5th November 2012 10:28 PM

The full album leaked

JackieRos 5th November 2012 11:10 PM

wooooot

TeamAyu2004 6th November 2012 03:12 AM

coolness, must find it and cast judgment... lol

Delicious n Bold 6th November 2012 03:46 AM

I'm so tempted to listen to the album...
What should I do?
I already downloaded it and previewed army of me. I wasn't impressed....
Nooo

jyujiw 6th November 2012 05:43 AM

I'm kinda disappointed. I think this is the weakest album she released so far.

Not that it's bad. It's just predictable since the beginning.
It sounds like a pure attempt to be a disco/club friendly album

All the beats, all the synths, all the sounds generally used nowadays are there. There's nothing new, nothing unexpected and with the taste that she used to put in her albums, something fresh.

I really hope that it explodes on the charts, after all, it's visible that Lotus was made for this purpose. But, being sincere, it's very unlikely though.

And one thing that disturbed me all the way while I was listening the album: it's incredible how the songs sounds like a Bionic commercial version. It's like the conceptual and more different songs were on Bionic and the commercial ones are in Lotus now.

Some songs that are quite memorables but not exceptionals: Make The World Move (pretty good with the collaboration, it does kick in the head) / Let There Be Love (reminds me Kylie Minogue don't know what) / Blank Page (bland, but cute, nothing phenomenal though) / Around The World (dance in the club, just) / Circles (the most different of them all)

XFER 6th November 2012 06:39 AM

Downloading! Still, after jyujiw's review, I most certainly will haten it, but doesn't hurt to try it :P

Maemi 6th November 2012 08:37 PM

dear god!

http://sphotos-g.ak.fbcdn.net/hphoto...92324707_n.jpg

Leaf King 6th November 2012 10:23 PM

I'm totally unimpressed. Listened once, will probably never listen to it again, unless I really feel like giving this project another chance.

TeamAyu2004 6th November 2012 10:38 PM

So far I'm at Let there be love...
and already...

it's about 20x better then her last failed attempt. I'm kind impressed.
Stand out tracks Army of One and Your Body...
The intro is interesting...not in a bad way and Red hot kinda love and Make the world move are not bad, but not very good either.

Delicious n Bold 6th November 2012 10:50 PM

To be honest, It feels like: Xtina, you lost me.
I find the tracks underwhelming
But repeated listen might help. That is, if I ever feel like listening to lotus on repeat.
Who knows, I may grow to like the album
But that dance track: let there be love (I think) is so underwhelming. The delusional ATRL Xtina stans say this song is amazing. I think Your body is better. In fact, it's the best song on the entire album.

TeamAyu2004 7th November 2012 12:45 AM

^ I really enjoyed Let there be love... fast and very dancable!
I also like your body.

So far on Around the World and overall I am impressed. This is one of her better albums, after Stripped (her best).

Delicious n Bold 7th November 2012 12:49 AM

I remember when stripped first came out and I looked at a flyer that advertised the CD. I said "why is she naked?"
I was so young back then :P 10 years ago! Howly. So naïve.

TeamAyu2004 7th November 2012 12:53 AM

^ man, i feel old... lol...

Best of me is simply amazing... strong beat, great lyrics... :*)

Delicious n Bold 7th November 2012 01:02 AM

^ Imma give that one an in-depth listen then. Like, since I've pretty much done all that damned syntax work, I can breathe in Xtina XDD

TeamAyu2004 7th November 2012 01:07 AM

^ i dont know you tastes but I think its a beautiful track!...

the worse track... Shut-Up... I dont know if she is trying to be serious or not...

Delicious n Bold 7th November 2012 01:09 AM

^ well, my sig pretty much sums up my musical tastes: I like ballads, beats, a bit of j-rap, SOME acoustics, piano and SOME rock :P
I used to LOVE Xtina but Best of me did nothing, which is quite sad. She'll never top the voice within i think.
But like i said, repeated listening will do wonders. Just look at what it did for me and Melody. Love the song now.

TeamAyu2004 7th November 2012 01:16 AM

lol... brainwashing yourself... :*)
I love the song... i think its the best on the album... I also like your body and let there be love...

over all I like this album... theres like 3 tracks I had to skip... which is good.
I'm glad she recovered from Bionic... I just wish Your body got some decent airplay.

Delicious n Bold 7th November 2012 01:28 AM

Your body will forever be played by me n my iPhone XD
It's a jam!

TeamAyu2004 7th November 2012 01:29 AM

I do love this song.
however the remix that comes with the album is horrible, lol..
sadness... this song deserves some good remix epicness.

Delicious n Bold 7th November 2012 01:34 AM

Kinda like how they screwed up the Melody remix :P
Even though your body flopped, it's way better thn Not myself tonight.

Zahara 7th November 2012 03:11 AM

I like one song on this album, pretty much everything on the new album sounds like songs other people have done before.

But it's catchy!

xLitax 7th November 2012 03:47 AM

Pre-ordered the album. Waiting for it to be released.

And, LOL, no offense with this next statement. I don't really care about the opinions being shared on this album. Majority of ayu fans hate Angel's Song, and it's one of my favorites.

happiholic★ 7th November 2012 03:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by xLitax (Post 2928062)
Pre-ordered the album. Waiting for it to be released.

And, LOL, no offense with this next statement. I don't really care about the opinions being shared on this album. Majority of ayu fans hate Angel's Song, and it's one of my favorites.

I used to, but the way I've been feeling about Ayu's latest releases, sans LOVE, I would welcome more Angel's Songs with open arms.

freedreamer 8th November 2012 12:17 AM

Her VEVO has a whole bunch of previews
and currently im loving this


xLitax 8th November 2012 10:11 PM

Anyone do remixes? Chance to win $5000 to remix Your Body. :D

http://www.indabamusic.com/opportuni...m=awe.sm_n7P3s

freedreamer 9th November 2012 11:08 AM

Im at Best of Me (which is sounding really gd) and...gosh, i didnt skip a track so far! Cease Fire is so wow :D And im loving Let There Be Love too..

XFER 9th November 2012 05:37 PM

I was soooooooo prepared to trash this album lol But I actually liked many songs in it. The first 6 or so songs made me so sure I was right in my judgement of the album being terrible. Those 6 opening songs are terrible. After those, the album gets better, and there are many good songs. So I liked more songs than ones I hated. <3

No_Doubt 11th November 2012 01:54 AM

I listened to this album on MTV the other day and it was a disaster. Really boring. The best track is the intro lol. Your Body is cute too.

Still buying the album though, big girls need love too.

happiholic★ 11th November 2012 04:50 PM

I think that the best track is the into, too :P

I do love Circles, though. Its quite different from everything else on the album.

Delicious n Bold 11th November 2012 04:57 PM

I have yet to find a chance to REALLY listen to the album. Not in passing or something.
So far, I have listened to 4 songs in detail, (intro, best of me, your body, let there be love) and I have only been impressed by your body.

No_Doubt 11th November 2012 05:09 PM

I listened to it in like super low quality, so hopefully I'll like it more once I get it on CD. It's kind of growing on me, Blank Page is really nice.

TeamAyu2004 11th November 2012 05:41 PM

the album is so much better then her last one...
but thats not hard really... lol. I Like it... it's not as good as stripped, but I feel like she hit her peak with that album.

isthisLOL? 11th November 2012 05:44 PM

Bionic = one of the best mainstream electropop albums
Lotus = massproduced generic crap of the type Kesha and Katy Perry put out

But that's ok. Lotus wasn't supposed to be a good album, it was supposed to gain back at least some success and how to better do that than through following as many trends as possible, doing things that have worked before and making sure it's all very basic. That's what the GP wants.

No_Doubt 11th November 2012 05:45 PM

Lol, some of the tracks on Bionic were crimes against humanity. Bobblehead. Vanity. OH GOD.

It had some good tracks too. Stripped had excellent singles but a ton of filler.

Oddly, the only album of hers I really got into was her first album, back when she was a Britney clone. It was really generic but enjoyable. Also maybe cause I was a kid then so it was like one of the first albums I bought and I had nothing to compare it to lol.

isthisLOL? 11th November 2012 05:46 PM

Vanity was amazing. Bobblehead, I agree.

TeamAyu2004 11th November 2012 05:53 PM

it was all (but 1) crap music and should be burned from the face the of the earth...
Actually someone should be aloud to go back in time to slip her, then tell her no.

the only real good song was Not Myself tonight (or whatever it was called)

Delicious n Bold 11th November 2012 08:31 PM

I remember the first Xtina album... Oh those were the days~
Only reason I still check on Xtina is because she gets me nostalgic. Ive known about her since her debut, and I was like, 5-6 when she first came out. Dang.
Nothing gets me going (mentally) like Genie in a Bottle. OMG that song brings more memories back than anything.

jyujiw 12th November 2012 01:29 AM

After more listens, I still maintain my opinion about this album.
It's such a commerciable piece of work of hers. Wasn't expecting this tbh.

But, Circles and Make The World Move, as well the intro are kinda growing on me.
Your Body is definitely the only one I fall in love with.

Well, I will buy it anyway, she deserves a little bit of love.

Btw, notices about a next single?

happiholic★ 12th November 2012 01:56 AM

I love Bobblehead and Vanity, lol. I don't take them seriously. I also really loved Birds of Prey. That song was so weird and cool. I love it.

TeamAyu2004 12th November 2012 03:27 AM

I guess this is good news.... but,

It looks like the UK likes Your Body more then the US!
It entered the chart at #16

I think the highest it was in the US was 30?
anyone remember?

XFER 12th November 2012 04:03 AM

I heard a rumor about Blank Page being the next single. I am ok with that, since it's millions of light years better than Your Body. Can anyone confirm it?

TeamAyu2004 12th November 2012 04:13 AM

I hope not, its about a million light years in the opposite direction of what she needs to do.
if she wants to pick a ballad like song it needs to be Best of Me. it has more soul.
But she should single Army of Me or Let there be Love...

as for conformation I have no idea, lol.

jyujiw 12th November 2012 05:06 AM

If she steps for a ballad for the next single she'll be putting herself into the grave. More, actually.

I think the wisest movement would be Let There Be Love. Even hating the amount of shouts in this thing.

jyujiw 12th November 2012 05:08 AM

If she steps for a ballad for the next single she'll be putting herself into the grave. More, actually.

I think the wisest movement would be Let There Be Love. Even hating the amount of shouts in this thing.

KremlinChaos 13th November 2012 01:30 AM

I was a little disappointed with the album at first but I'm really liking it now!

Maemi 13th November 2012 04:04 PM

Is this really Xtina? O.O

http://cdn.inquisitr.com/wp-content/...a-Aguilera.jpg

Delicious n Bold 13th November 2012 04:08 PM

^ yes
those pictures are now legend

JackieRos 14th November 2012 12:49 AM

supposedly she weights 175lbs.
I think she looks great skinny or chubby.


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