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fantaisie.sign 2nd October 2010 08:54 AM

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Originally Posted by ストロボ・EdGE (Post 2507285)
Thanks chibinina for the informative post. :yes

You're welcome! :D

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Originally Posted by Yum!Fruit_Salad!
I thought Japanese artists are paid on a salary basis not royalties, like it doesn't really matter how many copies they sell, they get paid a certain amount.

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer
Yes, the Japanese music industry I think works completely different than that of America.

It really does depend on the record company though. I referred to the American industry model because it's the most familiar one to me. (My dad works part time as a radio station announcer, and he is friends with a few recording artists at major and indie labels here in the US.) I honestly haven't seen many articles breaking down how Japanese record labels distribute profits, but if they're anything like American and European labels, then the profit methods will likely vary greatly. The salaried/non-royalty method makes sense because of Japan's smaller market size, but it's very difficult to determine exactly how the system works without information from insiders.

Aaaaaanyway, I'm happy about "L's" sales. For some reason, I think it'll end up having better chart longevity than "crossroad" once more people realize that is it Ayumi's big milestone single. I'm probably completely wrong though lol. :laugh

freedreamer 2nd October 2010 10:25 AM

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Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 2505626)
I was kidding. My kpop obsessions don't last very long and I rarely ever wish to hear a kpop song again after a few months, I only really follow BoA's kpop career and SuJu now days. I still primarily listen to jpop as it's hard to keep up with so many people at the same time, especially when every week there's something new.

thats very true. While kpop is a very close-knitted music industry, i cant say likewise for jpop. Hence, in jpop, i manage to concentrate of a few i LOVE. Right now, im on a AYu and Kumi high hahaha...Ayu because of her latest singleS and kuu because of her concerts. I HOPE WE WILL KNOW MORE OF 7DAYS FINAL!

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Originally Posted by cutieismylife (Post 2505992)
they'll always want her to be #1 so she could not only bet the record, but exceed it even more. why just call it a day when she can get more and more #1s?

i agree lol!...yes the #1 isnt that impt thereafter but if u can do it, why not just go ahead. Isnt that like a life lesson? If u can, just go for it.

ayumisrael 2nd October 2010 12:09 PM

4th Day
Position: #1
Sales: 4,652
Total Sales: 61,822

Mirrorcle Monster 2nd October 2010 12:11 PM

At least is better than MOON/blossom...

joshohhhhh 2nd October 2010 12:15 PM

^^ it's only 4k less than 'crossroad'. it's doing awesome.

bluegie 2nd October 2010 12:19 PM

Yes :P Hopefully it will have a boost on weekend :).

Lanz16 2nd October 2010 12:51 PM

yes!!!
Another #1!!!

Im hoping that the 7 Days tour will boost the single sales :)

Elednist 2nd October 2010 02:47 PM

The sales are just OK, but even if they could be much better than they are, the single is just great xD The end of Sweet reason's PV, the entire PV of Virgin road and the amazing Last Angel :P

brener 2nd October 2010 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Elednist (Post 2507951)
The sales are just OK, but even if they could be much better than they are, the single is just great xD The end of Sweet reason's PV, the entire PV of Virgin road and the amazing Last Angel :P

yep, the sales are OK, but I was expecting better sales than crossroad, cuz L is the main single of the 50th Single Project...

AyumiAi 2nd October 2010 06:39 PM

but the 4th day sales are friday's sales right?
tomorrow's sales should go up due to the concert.

Yum!Fruit_Salad! 2nd October 2010 09:10 PM

@Chibinina4, I see. I found the article where I had gotten my information from.
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Japanese jimusho, on the other hand, hire their talent as salaried workers. They pay their “employees” a monthly salary, which usually starts at the relatively low „200,000 and can be re-negotiated on a yearly basis.
Quoted from
http://neojaponisme.com/2010/04/05/t...stem-part-one/
http://neojaponisme.com/2010/06/29/t...stem-part-two/

Funny how crossroad is doing slightly better despite L being her 50th single. :P

Bigtop 3rd October 2010 04:47 AM

Well, no matter what, it's impossible for either SID or flumpool to break Ayu's streak...congratulations Ayu!!!

rusuke 3rd October 2010 07:09 AM

I love, love, love it! 4 consecutive days on no.1 spot!!! I hope tomorrow it will stay on the same track!

yuki_unmei 3rd October 2010 07:16 AM

so, how's competition going? is anyone's total sales close to hers at all?

Takahome 3rd October 2010 07:44 AM

Anyone know who is the next highest consecutively #1 Single holder and how much is the number he/her/they holding?

Ranma Matsuri 3rd October 2010 07:53 AM

^Well, the record Ayu is breaking now is the consecutive singles for solo artist. The highest above Ayu is Mr. Children with 29. The B'z have the record for most #1 singles overall which I believe is 43.

Bigtop 3rd October 2010 08:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Ranma Matsuri (Post 2508785)
^Well, the record Ayu is breaking now is the consecutive singles for solo artist. The highest above Ayu is Mr. Children with 29. The B'z have the record for most #1 singles overall which I believe is 43.

Solo artist and female artist as well... But I'm not sure if she can even reach that, because that would be around her 70th-75th single in order to break B'z, and along with Mr. Children, they're still active, ready whenever they want, although not much action for those two bands have been seen lately...

norain 3rd October 2010 11:02 AM

I'm sure she has a chance to beat Mr. Children if she continued to release like mad. Good she's doing well!

ayumisrael 3rd October 2010 11:18 AM

5th Day
Position: #1
Sales: 4,024
Total Sales: 65,846

It's catching up with crossroad. ^^

Mirrorcle Monster 3rd October 2010 11:34 AM

Yay!!!Hope it ends up selling better than crossroad

freedreamer 3rd October 2010 11:49 AM

YAY..it maintained really well!!

sanzo2011 3rd October 2010 11:51 AM

Hope that she can sell 4k tomorrow ^^!

joshohhhhh 3rd October 2010 12:27 PM

glad to see she is holding steady! on another note, i ordered another copy of L, crossroad and M/b. :p

brener 3rd October 2010 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by sanzo2011 (Post 2508918)
Hope that she can sell 4k tomorrow ^^!

Yeah, if it doesn't sell about 4k its week can end selling less than MOON... I REALLY don't know why L is not doin' such a great chart as crossroad, should be the opposite...

C+R+E+AYUMI 3rd October 2010 07:10 PM

still 4000 k less than crossroad

waterballoon 3rd October 2010 07:11 PM

I'm pretty sure crossroad is selling a tad better due to her cover of SEVEN DAYS WAR.

Pieces_of_SEVEN 3rd October 2010 08:02 PM

I guess it's safe to say the record is broken now...WOW this is so exciting!

love in music 3rd October 2010 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by waterballoon (Post 2509318)
I'm pretty sure crossroad is selling a tad better due to her cover of SEVEN DAYS WAR.

yeah i was thinking that too. also crossroad was promoted on TV, and unfortunately none of the songs from "L" were.

AyumiAi 3rd October 2010 08:16 PM

Well for 5th day sales, L is doing pretty well,
if she can sell 4k tomorrow again then i think it can
catch up to Crossroad
heres hoping ;p

joshuapeterson 3rd October 2010 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by waterballoon (Post 2509318)
I'm pretty sure crossroad is selling a tad better due to her cover of SEVEN DAYS WAR.

I would think so too, awkwardly enough... But I think it's also strongly because of this:

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Originally Posted by identity (Post 2509370)
yeah i was thinking that too. also crossroad was promoted on TV, and unfortunately none of the songs from "L" were.

And that's very sad. The PVs for L were better than crossroad's, and the single has Last angel on it!! :(

ohsixthirty 4th October 2010 02:27 AM

So the record is broken, right? Why am I not hearing more about it?

Pieces_of_SEVEN 4th October 2010 02:33 AM

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Originally Posted by ohsixthirty (Post 2509711)
So the record is broken, right? Why am I not hearing more about it?

It's not officially broken...the week isn't up yet.

Bigtop 4th October 2010 02:34 AM

It's almost, but we still have yet to receive the word from Oricon...

adantatu2 4th October 2010 02:37 AM

^Īsn't official yet, but it's obvious, ayu will get the No.1 again

1 1 → 浜崎あゆみ(L) 4024 65846
2 2 → シド 2414 33172
3 3 → flumpool 3196 31937

SID needs sell like 30k tomorrow to be the No.1 weekly

brener 4th October 2010 03:04 AM

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Originally Posted by adantatu2 (Post 2509728)
^Īsn't official yet, but it's obvious, ayu will get the No.1 again

1 1 → 浜崎あゆみ(L) 4024 65846
2 2 → シド 2414 33172
3 3 → flumpool 3196 31937

SID needs sell like 30k tomorrow to be the No.1 weekly

yeah, we can already say that ayu broke the record!!

Bad Wolf 4th October 2010 03:06 AM

R-R-R-R-ECORD BREAKER

kagami 4th October 2010 03:14 AM

Ayu is too awesome to stop! But I'm not gonna lie, I wish this single was selling better. I was hoping for something like 120k all up. I totally think it deserves it.

ohsixthirty 4th October 2010 03:39 AM

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Originally Posted by kagami (Post 2509746)
Ayu is too awesome to stop! But I'm not gonna lie, I wish this single was selling better. I was hoping for something like 120k all up. I totally think it deserves it.

I agree.

But at least Ayu is a record breaker!!!!

Bigtop 4th October 2010 04:09 AM

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Originally Posted by adantatu2 (Post 2509728)
^Īsn't official yet, but it's obvious, ayu will get the No.1 again

1 1 → 浜崎あゆみ(L) 4024 65846
2 2 → シド 2414 33172
3 3 → flumpool 3196 31937

SID needs sell like 30k tomorrow to be the No.1 weekly

That's great that Ayu has done it (breaking the record for the most consecutive #1 singles of any soloist/female artist), but the sales seem to be the LOWEST we've ever seen for an Ayu #1 single...maybe the tour sales "handicap"? And digital sales factor? And it's set a week after "crossroad"?

bluegie 4th October 2010 04:55 AM

^There is still one more day to be counted into weekly sales. I think it will be at least 69K in the end :P.

ayumisrael 4th October 2010 05:07 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigtop (Post 2509784)
That's great that Ayu has done it (breaking the record for the most consecutive #1 singles of any soloist/female artist), but the sales seem to be the LOWEST we've ever seen for an Ayu #1 single...maybe the tour sales "handicap"? And digital sales factor? And it's set a week after "crossroad"?

Actually it will do better than MOON/blossom's 1st week so it's not the lowest for ayu. =P

Bigtop 4th October 2010 05:18 AM

Oh, maybe it's because we still need another day's sales to form the weekly sales, plus a bit more...

Andrenekoi 4th October 2010 06:14 AM

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Originally Posted by InoriNoUta (Post 2509740)
R-R-R-R-ECORD BREAKER

Killer Instinct feelings xD

Ranma Matsuri 4th October 2010 06:23 AM

^LMAO That's EXACTLY what I was thinking! :roflmao

primavera♥ 4th October 2010 06:24 AM

I wish it would sell better but in this particular situation I really think the focus is mainly on getting that number one. If they wanted it to sell well they might have needed to do things a bit diffrently.

Anyway I'm quite happy she's done this. So when its over it doesn't have to be a major focal point. :)

AyuGAME 4th October 2010 06:52 AM

next target breaking Mr.Children record!!! hahaha...OMG!!! do we need to start over again?
B'z record is impossible to break, but Mr.Children record seems very possible

rakeru 4th October 2010 06:54 AM

We can finally chill about her records........

...until she gets to her 100000000th single. That's going to be huge.

waterballoon 4th October 2010 06:55 AM

ah Ayu, it's been a long way. :heart

ayumisrael 4th October 2010 10:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Bigtop (Post 2509817)
Oh, maybe it's because we still need another day's sales to form the weekly sales, plus a bit more...

Well L's first week is few hunders above MOON/blossom's now hehe~
Was a good guess =P

6th Day
Position: #2
Sales: 4,122
Total Sales: 69,968

roanmy 4th October 2010 10:47 AM

Ir's No. 2 today???? Who made No. 1?

njanjayrp 4th October 2010 10:49 AM

^ Oricon still hasn't updated as far as I know.

Lanz16 4th October 2010 10:54 AM

Oh great... I wonder who made it on #1

bluegie 4th October 2010 11:09 AM

I guess... flumpool?
But it's great that Sunday's sales is constant :D

ayumisrael 4th October 2010 11:14 AM

Yep flumpool's #1...
It doesn't matter though since ayu got the #1.
I'm waiting for the official message to celebrate :D

bluegie 4th October 2010 11:18 AM

Let's celebrate now for ayu... :cry... Finally she becomes the one!!!

freedreamer 4th October 2010 12:32 PM

Wow the sales are extremely consistent..TMR'S THE DAY! woots.

C+R+E+AYUMI 4th October 2010 12:41 PM

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Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 2510091)
Yep flumpool's #1...
It doesn't matter though since ayu got the #1.
I'm waiting for the official message to celebrate :D

i agree, she got the # 1 so don't care if she's #2 now, she reached a greta result imo

Aditmi Krisnasaki ~II~ 4th October 2010 01:36 PM

definitely #1!!

go ayu go!! beat seiko GO!! :D :D

Lanz16 4th October 2010 01:39 PM

She'll get #1 on weekly for sure.
What a record breaker for Ayu :)

Jwiz 4th October 2010 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by bluegie (Post 2510094)
Let's celebrate now for ayu... :cry... Finally she becomes the one!!!

Yes :cry Like finally after all these years...

Bigtop 4th October 2010 02:43 PM

Still need official confirmation...

bluegie 4th October 2010 03:44 PM

Oh... last time when she beat Seiko record for female with the most no. 1 singles (Startin'/Born To Be... rite?), avex made a special flash statement on the official website. So this time will they make another special flash? :D

Bigtop 4th October 2010 03:48 PM

It could be possible...

nanakopy87 4th October 2010 04:25 PM

i am sure avex will make it big XD
can't wait for avex to make the announcement!

Elednist 4th October 2010 05:32 PM

Wee! The sales will be better than MOON, and may be close to crossroad this week, if they hold this way it might even surpase crossroad. But the most important is that se breaks the record, now she could release a limited edition or something like that xDD

brener 4th October 2010 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by nanakopy87 (Post 2510266)
i am sure avex will make it big XD
can't wait for avex to make the announcement!

yeh!! i'm hopping for that too!!

AyumiAi 4th October 2010 10:09 PM

GoodJob Ayu!! :D
she has the record now! :)
hope someone updates this on wikipedia :P
Congratz X 1000000 to ayu its a great accomplishment
<3

dzinup 4th October 2010 10:21 PM

congrats to ayuu!!!!

Ranma Matsuri 4th October 2010 10:26 PM

We should get the weekly results later on tonight, right? Or early tomorrow morning? :P

love in music 4th October 2010 10:27 PM

omg congrats to ayu, i'm so happy for her! here's to many more #1's!

Mirrorcle Monster 4th October 2010 10:33 PM

It's been a long road....gongrats for ayu!!

AyumiAi 4th October 2010 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Ranma Matsuri (Post 2510520)
We should get the weekly results later on tonight, right? Or early tomorrow morning? :P

my guess is early tomorrow
:P

Neil 4th October 2010 10:48 PM

http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/confidence/80699/

Article about breaking the record, 71k sold.

Mintkisses 4th October 2010 10:49 PM

Yay! I'm positive Ayu must feel like all her hard work has paid off.

ayumisrael 4th October 2010 11:04 PM

1st Week
Position: #1
Estimated Total Sales: 69,968
Official Sales: 70,500~71,500

So the sales should be a bit higher than MOON/blossom's according to the estimation, hopefully!

Achivements gained with 50th Single L:
-25 Consecutive #1 singles breaking the 22 years kept record of seiko matsuda, ayu is the solo & female artist with most consecutive #1 singles and 3rd overall after B'z & Mr.Children.
-Solo & Female artist with most #1 Singles, 37 singles.
-Artist with most top 10 singles.

Source: http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/confidence/80699/

Thank you Neil!!

I'm so happy for ayu's record breaking!! She is truely my best and I'm really proud of her & her hard work :heart
Congratulations ayu!

bluegie 4th October 2010 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 2510556)
-Artist with most #1 Singles, 34 singles.
-Artist with most top 10 singles.

Both refer to solo acts rite?

ayumisrael 4th October 2010 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by bluegie (Post 2510562)
Both refer to solo acts rite?

No, both are overall.

Neil 4th October 2010 11:21 PM

^ She's not the overall artist with the most #1's. I *think* she's second to B'z.

ayumisrael 4th October 2010 11:23 PM

Oh? Oricon had to mention the others above -_- blah.
Who are above her? (and it's 37 #1 singles)

Bigtop 4th October 2010 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Neil (Post 2510569)
^ She's not the overall artist with the most #1's. I *think* she's second to B'z.

B'z, I think, has a streak that is longer than the number of singles Ayu has gone #1...

But, anyways, congratulations!!! Now we can put the worry into bed and relax for the next month or two as the closing stages of the RnRC tour series continue...

gallowsCalibrator 4th October 2010 11:31 PM

Wow, I knew she could do it!!! :colorjump Great for Ayu!!! ^O^

bluegie 4th October 2010 11:40 PM

Yeah, B'z should have more no. 1 singles than ayu. At least B'z do. Their no. 1 streak is like 43 at this moment.

ayumisrael 4th October 2010 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by bluegie (Post 2510584)
Yeah, [strike]bothMr. Children and [/strike] B'z should have more no. 1 singles than ayu. At least B'z do. Their no. 1 streak is like 43 at this moment.

Yeah, but 100% ayu has most top 10 singles "record".
I remember oricon made a list and she was above B'z and SMAP which are tie for the 2nd place.

jbrat2219 4th October 2010 11:47 PM

Congratulations to Ayu! I'm so glad this is official so maybe it won't matter as much to some fans lol.

bluegie 4th October 2010 11:48 PM

I dunno about that one, but probly she does have more top 10s than B'z. She has 50 singles, and B'z have less than that :P.

kuri♥ayu 4th October 2010 11:49 PM

Congratulations Ayu!!!!

Miduhyo 4th October 2010 11:53 PM

YAY AYU!!!!!!!!!!!

congrats!!!!:colorjump

dreamland2.0 4th October 2010 11:59 PM

Yay I'm so happy for Ayu!!
I feel like I can relax too :laugh

:vbhappy

Bad Wolf 5th October 2010 12:15 AM

And I repeat: R-R-R-R-R-R-RECORD BREAKER.

GREENsora 5th October 2010 12:19 AM

Congrats Ayuuu! knew she cud do it! :)

love in music 5th October 2010 12:24 AM

it's so awesome that she did it with her 50th single too, what a way to celebrate! :D

Bigtop 5th October 2010 12:29 AM

Okay, just updated the Ayu Wikipedia page as well as the "L" single to reflect this. If any improvements are necessary, maybe you can help!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ayumi_Hamasaki
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L_(EP)

ren0210989 5th October 2010 12:48 AM

congrads, that's a great thing ^^

LastAngel 5th October 2010 12:52 AM

Finally it's official!
Congrats Ayu!!! :D

jkm444 5th October 2010 01:16 AM

Congrats Ayu!! I am glad she finally beat Matsuda Seiko record!! Took her 8 years to beat this record.

HTMSD 5th October 2010 01:36 AM

YESSS!!!
Congratulations ayu!!!

The battle is finally over d(>.<)b

yuki_unmei 5th October 2010 01:50 AM

she won this 7 days of war :D
yaaay ayu!! :clapclap

koumori 5th October 2010 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by InoriNoUta (Post 2510616)
And I repeat: R-R-R-R-R-R-RECORD BREAKER.

LOL. Win.

Congratulations Ayu~! (: I'm so happy for her.

asmAyumi1992 5th October 2010 03:59 AM

Congrats Ayu~~~

AyuGAME 5th October 2010 04:18 AM

YAY!!! CONGRATS AYU!!!
we can relax for a little while, maybe she will release another single for winter, we don't know...maybe next year she will release another single...
next target is Mr. Children


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