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They better not cancel it, that's all I have to say.
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^ I feel like she's been cutting it close when it comes to publishing finalized information for the last few releases (since the start of the 48-49-50 single trilogy). We'll definitely get all of the final DVD/ayu-mi-x info (tracklist and covers) by mid March. Maybe we'll get the blu-ray release date then, too? Or maybe they'll wait until after the DVD is released to officially announce the blu-ray launch date?
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yeah, i don't understand why Avex teams of working style can be sooooo different.
if only Ayu's staff can be like kuu's staff and give us the info faster, i'll be very happy. I need the details! |
^ I think it has to deal with the building up the hype. The longer it takes for them to release info the more you want it, bla bla bla, kinda stuff.
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Uh oh, but I think I have another problem here...KANJANI EIGHT!!! (You Johnny's group!!!)
They're in Ayu's rights of way! Ayu will NEVER make it #1 with a Johnny's artist releasing on the same day... (And they're releasing a Blu-ray version on the SAME DAY while Ayu's later on in April! Grr you...) |
^ just the dvd? What group is this??
PLUS! last day in February!! less then a month to go!! |
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Besides, rankings is the LAST thing I worry about when it comes to ayu. I love her music, style and personality, she can drop totally out of the charts and I'll still love her music. Maybe it's just me, but I honestly don't get what all the hype about rankings everytime something new comes out. Is it that important, people??? :no |
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Which i think ayumi will beat them at the charts... just fyi |
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2. The position rarely reflects the amount of money someone earns, so while the sales are important, the position is not. 3. Kanjani8 will in no way affect the amount that RnRC dvd will sell. |
DVDs are generally not an important factor for an artist compared to albums and singles, just to let you know...
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Kanjani Eight?! Do you really think that they could be a threat to Ayu? Yes, okay, they are a JE group and I would be worried if Arashi released something on the same day...but Kanjani?
But then...I'm not interested in Kanjani and don't know how much they normally sell. But they don't strike me as the most popular of JE-groups! Still, Ayu is HUGE! All her releases always sell like crazy, so I don't think it matters if she gets #1 or #2 or #7. I'll never understand why people care so much about numbers. Ayu has proved countless times that she can do amazing things, so she doesn't have to do it with every single release! |
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Ayu is big, not huge atm and her stuff does not sell like crazy anymore...but yeah I don't really care about how she sells atm. |
She's not as everywhere and has huge as she used to be, but she's still got a good and steady fan base. I'm sure she knows that.
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Yeah, the fans are there and thats all the counts.
As for the early post, position DOES count. Sales are more important true, but if you are a company then you want the artist that has more number 1 albums then albums that don't even reach the top 5. A ton of people go by positions on charts. If its a number 1 seller then people want to know why and go out to buy, which adds more to the sales. Its all in the marketing and what not. |
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Let's say you have two artists, one who got 3 #1s and sold 10-30k with each album, or the other one, who has never reached #1, but keeps selling 100k+ with every release? Which one would you sign to your label? Now days good position on charts usually means good timing :rolleyes |
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Selling well is not an issue anymore. Not making money is not an issue either. ayu is one person who will never be dropped. Let's not even talk about ayu here. I listen to many other artistes, some of whom have been releasing music for years and years, with number of singles/albums in the Top 5 less than 10 times. But they are still around, releasing wonderful music. An extreme example, look at Perfume. They have been around a decade, and only started selling really well a couple of years ago. And look where they are now, one of the strongest girl groups in Japan. If your theory of "drop an artiste if they don't sell" is true, then Perfume would have been gone long long ago, and we would have lost an awesome group. The Japanese music industry is about people who have talent and the passion to work hard, not about some silly numbers and charts. That's my honest opinion, and I do hope people would stop thinking that money means everything. |
^ Indeed, you've summed it up really nice ^_^ Still occasionally people who sell nothing get dropped by the labels or their management finds them an alternative career. Some examples would be Ami Suzuki, Hitomi Shimatani and OLIVIA who barely even release music anymore. Ami is now an actress and a DJ, while Shimatani acts in plays and performs in bars sometimes. So even though avex hasn't dropped them it's quite obvious their music careers are going nowhere because they failed to sell :(
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^ True, though I guess it depends on the artiste themselves too. A record company may drop them or offer them alternatives, but I think it's probably up to them in the end whether they want to make the switch. I've seen many artistes who choose to continue on because their passion lies solely in music, while others like the ones you mentioned may have chosen to leave because of personal ideals and problems (the need to make money, or maybe they were ok with doing something other than sing). Who knows?
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^ it could be that too, of course they'll need money so that might be one of the reasons some of them start working in other Entertainment departments or totally switch careers. But yeah I think that it's easier when people are completely involved in the process of making music like Ayu and Hikki are for example, when you can obviously see that the record labels and the music industry don't influence their works a lot. So even if the things might not be progressing well they can always part ways with their label and continue doing what they like.
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But your talking about Ayumi who has been in the music business for 13 + years. She has made her place and she doesn't have to be number one at anything. But Im talking about new people.
The changes of a new artist never reaching the number 1 spot or not even breaking the top five and selling 100K + is rare. Ayumi on the other hand is almost selling her singles at 100K. A company would rather have artist that hit the number one spot and sell tons then artist that cant break the top five or 10 and maybe over time selling 100K |
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*GASP* WHY...HOW COME...I didn't see this before :thud
Blu-ray! My PS3 is gonna be happy :heart |
I always hope for ayu gets #1 but she does go up agains band groups and she has been a big hit for ages with regardless of her possition she will always pull in the crowds and the big$$$ and for how long she's been around, even in the top 10 or 5 will always look good for her, and despite ther ranking her income is more than enough to show how popular she is :P
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Lol, we just have to watch big music shows like a-nation or Kouhaku and we'll see loooooooooots of artistes we've never even heard of before, who have been in the industry forever but never made a big splash, but still happily singing. :P That's why I sorta agree with your prof, as long as their passion for music is there, record companies don't really drop people. |
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^ I didn't mean it like that XD They ones sold like mad and then just stopped selling xD Road of Major never hit it big though :)
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that's a thing i like about japan music industry, the not-so-selling artist can be still around AT LEAST within 5 years after their debut, it should have something to do with their huge market.
In a record company, they should be artist who sell well and some who sold very little, like Ayu/kuu/hikki with their steady sales, so even if the company has a few artists whom aren't selling, at least the company has earn enough and don't make a loss in the end, so they can to stay. well... that's what i think anyway |
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But sometimes I wonder with things like PVs, sometimes when artists get a very large budget does it come out from what the artist themselves earned for the company over all or does it come from what the company itself earned from all the artists over all...? |
^ I guess we'll never find that out, but I'd like to know as well. Same goes for tours though I guess they have sponsors for those...
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i wanna pre-order the blu-ray :( :(
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Blu-ray release on the 2011.4.20 (and AT 2009 in 3D!) : )
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great!! Now I'm just waiting the announcement of OS press, orz"
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i hate MC session~~~ =="" *giggle*
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YAY! Not one - but TWO releases on Blu-ray for Ayu on the same day! Surely paying over 7,000 yen for each is really expensive... (That's going to equal $200, including shipping - and it's best that you need a 3D set, especially for the Arena Tour 2009 3D...)
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why isnt the cover out yet? :(
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Uh...why is 2010 in 3D? I would hate anyone to buy this and then for them to release it again this time next year with a 3D option.
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I pre-ordered AT2010 blu-ray through CDJapan :D
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UGH the Blu-Ray is so PRICEY. :( I hope it's worth it. D:
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concert on 3 BR disks? that's a big surprise for me %)
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Are you serious...........
WTH. It REQUIRES a 3D player and TV ? This is BS. I want NEXT LEVEL in normal Blu-ray !!! D: |
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YEAH! I just got my e-mail from cdjapan! lol.. next level AND Rock n Roll on Blu ray!!
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The concert is probably extremely huge due to being in high definition. Plus the extras may also be in high definition as well.
AT10 will not be in 3D, but AT09 is. If something is going to be in 3D but you don't have a 3D TV, it'll just show as high definition/HD and not in 3D on your TV. Not a big deal. |
update first post with the blu ray release date and info
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Hm... the code for the Blu-ray is a bit worrying since it only mentions two discs.
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^no!!! that would be retarded!!! i want my encore in blu ray quality too!!!!
i don't mind the MCs/making off in normal quality though, but please don't touch the encore!!!! |
The encore is part of the concert, haha. I don't think they would skip over that. It's weird that the information at her site is not the same as the information at CDJapan or other retailers though.
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OMG it will be release a day after my birthday! Why have I not a PS3 or a blu-ray player? :| Gosh would be a perfect birthday's gift lol.
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I wanted to preorder now but I'll wait for the explanation, I hoped for more extras not less, hopefully everything is the same as on the dvd.
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Aww. so much information at once! lol :thud
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I want the bluray version but HMV lists it as 2 discs. I hope they made a mistake.
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^ is 2 disk bad?
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2 discs would mean that the Blu-ray is just the concert with no MCs or making of footage/special screens. OR it could mean that they split the concert up and they fit the majority of the concert onto the first disc with the encore/etc. and extras in the second disc.
I wish the official site hadn't messed up/goofed with their description because they made it seem like the contents of the Blu-ray will in fact be the same as the DVD. |
Mmm! It has been fixed!
http://www.avexnet.or.jp/ayu/jp/disc...x.html#0420_02 The site reads that the extras are on the disc 2 and the entire main concert is on disc 1! YAY! |
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Finally no need to switch CDs for the whole show :heart |
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and OMG. Sweet Season <3 but sadly is the same show found on the DVD :/ i wish it had alterna |
http://www.amazon.co.jp/exec/obidos/...F0CRG/r571-22/
The runtime for the Blu-ray is expected to be around 280 minutes, or 4 hours and 40 minutes total. AT09's runtime for all three DVDs (concert + encore + MCs/extras): DISC 01: Approx. 87 mins DISC 02: Approx. 74 mins DISC 03: Approx. 60 mins Total: 221 mins - 3 hours and 41 minutes I'm guessing the additional hour is a combination of more MCs and a longer concert. |
So then I guess I will be loosing some 4 hours of my life watching Ayu in glorious HD! +w+
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★メイキング・ムービー ★全公演MC集（全40タイトル） ★SHU-YAのつぶやき ★トモさん七変化 |
Saw the cover from the ayu-mi-x 7 thread. Not liking it a single bit. But oh wells, at least the concert is awesome (from the reviews).
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^ "making of Love"? :laugh
I can't wait to get the blu ray, I want it so bad.. even though I guess I won't be able to afford it in the next weeks :/ |
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The Blu-ray has those extra contents in the second disc.
And I wonder what "memories" will be... maybe there was a special video looking back on the tour at the final concert? It seems a bit weird for that to be after Virgin Road though... And Tomo might be Tomonari Yoshihiro, one of her keyboardists. I think that the making movie for the whole thing could have some clips of meaning of Love/Last Links/alterna! (Or the MC segments for the encore songs) |
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The weird thing is that memories isn't a part of any of the AT10 recaps, most of which include the interlude videos in the lists as well.
After Virgin Road, apparently there was a small reference to a bride/groom and then it led straight into whatever was before Don't look back. Was anyone at AHS at the final show in Yoyogi? I'm pretty wtf'd at the interlude videos only being present directly in the concert disc. Does this mean we won't get high quality versions of just the screen videos? I always love those and I hate when they exclude one of them for w/e reason, or exclude them (in full) entirely a la AT07. |
same here about the interludes, they were often PV quality in case of storyline and visually even better then many of her PVs, AT05 before GAME interlude with Mitsu is my favourite, I was so dissapointed when she missed few at AT09 (esp the half naked Maro .____.)
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If someone uploads this to JPopsuki, I'm estimating up to 75 GB, which is quite too much for me. |
I was at 7days!
there isn't more songs! It's just an interlude (one I loved!!) with all the dancers before don't look back starts~ Virgin road ends and that interlude starts ^^ And it's not an iterlude video, just with dancers... though at the end Maro and Kazuma play a bit with the screen, I loved that part! in fact there wasn't any interlude videos like the ones in AT08 for example... The one before BALLAD was pretty simple, "solitude" (a picture of midoringu, shuya, maro and Ayu)... The intro video wasn't a story either, just scary freaky ayu faces... Before countdown it was some dancers with taiko... THE CABARET is Peco, princess and Go-mi sing and acting show, and no screens because they put the red curtain back. After sexy little things there was a screen video with ayu and the dancers in that part costumes, but not an story. And jump wasn't a clip either~ Aki and 2-yan dancing like in a battle and yoko and peco shouting JUMP! xD that's all! But as I said sometime ago, the screens were part of the performance... rather than telling a story ^^ |
Woh, woh, woh.. i was looking at the cdjapan website and it says that the Rock n Roll blu-ray is region free.. is that right?? will it play on any blu-ray player including playstation 3??
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When it comes out, for anyone in Europe with a Blu-ray player, could someone test it out to make sure that it's compatible? And for Americans (or Canadians), another person living there? |
Oh, really?? I didn't know Japanese blu-rays could be played on American players.. good to know!
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And yeah... I think that Tomo-san thing is him, cause everyday in the 7days he appeared with a different disguise or sth like that XD hilarious XD But I wonder what's de Shuya thing... he didn't appearen in the MC's.. |
Aura, I think it's from the regular show. Coz everyone was calling him 'avatar' during may's show.
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OKay, so i bit the bullet and bought the blu-ray! and since I can watch it on my ps3 that is going to be supper awesome!
by the by.. the amazon.jp one that is being sold is super cheep! :luv2 |
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