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Anyway, ambiguity and ambivalence have been always an ayu's signature, as i see it. even her lyrics are usually never that precise or clear, they tend to be vague (and yes, poetic, i won't deny that quality) so this statement, i think, describes her perfectly. I especially like the last line, because imho many people here puts her in some sort of altar, implying she's perfect and with no flaws (which is something i obviously disagree with), and what's worst, if you don't agree with them they claim you are not a true fan. One thing is liking an artist and admiring their strong points and one different is being totally blind about yur fandom :rolleyes. Which is something i have no desire to repeat anymore. Quote:
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Edit: By the way, i also wanted to comment about the "infamous" book being the reason of divorce. To be honest, i'm SURPRISED to see people who believes mannie's book is "gross". With all due respect, i don't understand why is this gross. It's the human body. What is wrong with that? did you guys were born with clothes? a huge part of ayu's career is modeling, even now she is a spokesperson for tons of products, and also some of her photoshots have included nudity and a lot of sexual connotations; if what she did before is considered here erotic and artistic why what he does is gross? |
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Didn't Tomoya have some kind of huge scandal close to the time he and Ayu split? I'm pretty sure it was drug related. But he wasn't exactly a decent and proper guy... |
My problem with Super Mannie is that I don't find him attractive, so I don't wanna see that much of him. Plus, bum-less undies are lol :laugh
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^If only he had a better behind, but as it is... meh (plus he's not really eye candy)
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^Agreed. If there was a similar photobook released of a guy I found attractive I would be all over it.
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How unpleasant... It's been quite a while since I visited here... And upon visiting, this is the first headline I saw... 2012 is a good year? *Shakes head* hmmmm...
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Yeah, Mannie is definitely not attractive to me. But, beauty is definitely subjective...
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Mannie is 'attractive'...but not my kind of attractive if you know what I mean.
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When I look at some runway shows, it happens often I wonder why this girl or that guy is up there ?! Lol |
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^ Omg totally! I don't really see him as model material either.
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To be honest, I'm surprised he's still a model at that age. Not to sound rude, but the shelf life of a model is like 23 or something, I learned in my fashion industry class. Unless they become popular. The unknown ones usually stop getting work when the reach mid to late 20s.
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^ I think his man focus is "suppose" to be acting, but he gets model jobs here and there...
I dont think he is that good (looks or acting) |
one things for sure...she'd probably get a Japanese guy now or someone that's gonna just live with her in Japan lol
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^^Never know. And I don't think race matters to ayu. I bet she's equal opportunity. lol
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Aww, poor Ayu!!!
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o gosh..she's hounded...but brown bangs! new hairstyle maybe?
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Could someone translate the context of what they say about ayu? |
I just noticed that in Mannie photobook there are some words about going to the Hollywood, could he be gettin there with a help of this Leslie book? :laugh
Ayu looks super ill or tired, I don't know. but she doesn't look good. and they were eventually speaking about her divorce. just leave her alone and hands off Nagase please. he rocks it more than Mannie, no matter what http://savepic.net/2362325m.gif |
^ Nagase was great, mmmm :luv2
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I personally think Nagase wasn't good for Ayu, but that's just me... he rubbed me the wrong way somehow. Either way, isn't he with someone else now anyway?
I'm sure Ayu will find someone right for her in due time, I'm not worried, we just have to support her in the good and rough patches of her life :3 Totally hoping her bangs REALLY ARE BROWN btw. |
Regarding the movie: Poor Ayu! Even if Mannie feels upset over the divorce, at least he isn't being hounded like this! She looks really unwell there... ):
People say that the Japanese aren't as into personal lives of celebrities, but it certainly doesn't look like they're totally apathetic. At the same time, I suppose western paparazzi would have been a lot worse. I hope she keeps away from the rumours floating around and just ignores the TV/tabloids. |
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I hope her bangs are brown too! I want her to have brown hair again for a little while.
Also, sometimes I wonder what was really going on with Mannie and Ayu, like he was using her to get fame of his own. I will never know the truth, but he probably wouldn't have gotten photographs of him by Leslie Kee if not for Ayu, which would help him get more fame in the US. Honestly though...he probably won't go far. No one but Ayu fans know of him really. If not for Ayu, I would have NO idea who he was. I'm not trying to be negative, but I don't like to see Ayu get used. She already has enough **** to deal with. |
I think Nagase is hottttttt. If Ayu doesn't want him, I'll take him ;)
I doubt we will ever know the real truth behind her divorce. Like I said, I think that the reason she gave us has some truth, but there is going to be a lot of covering up of the facts because she needs to keep her public image positive. Getting a divorce from a forigener after only a year of marriage does not look good on a gal. Japan likes their idols pure. |
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She even bows at the end. o_o wow.
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so kind, even to vultures like the paparazzi.
or maybe it was done in a smart-ass kind of way. |
it's been a while since I saw ayu look so much like a super star and diva with all those paparazzi around her and body guards and what not, as sad and annoying as it is, it's nice to feel that she still gives off that aura
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It's still Ayu n__n
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Sorry to say this but although many people find him gay (bad dancer / annoying, etc), I can only see Ayu in relationship with Shuya. They have this co-dependent kind of relationship, they are totally relaxed towards each other, they seem to understand each other withough words, Shuya is totally caring towards Ayu while she is so natural next to him, she tends to touch him in several photos or punches him humorusly, she always laughs hard in his company and he also is allowed more than others, just like last time in China (Taiwan?) during some promotion he kissed her on her head.
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We often search for some ideal, sexy guy we they don't see people next to us who really care about us (not saying that Shuya isn't sexy :D). Personally I'd prefer to have the kind of relationship that she has with Shuya than just some handsome guy I've yet to known. But it's just me :P |
LOL @ this fan:
http://i294.photobucket.com/albums/m...h_sarcyfan.png Well, unless Ayu wants a relationship with Shuya its not going to happen. Even if you think he's best for her, based on what you've seen, you've never witnessed how they act around each other when cameras aren't on them. Also, if Shuya is gay then it would explain their seemingly constant close proximity, girls often say they are comfortable around gay guys, they way they are around girlfriends. |
Whether he's gay or not, I don't know. But there are rumors here that Shuya (and company) go to hostess bars and pay the girls both with money and tickets to Ayu concerts, as well as *cough* going back to their hotels with them. He has a playboy image associated with him, I believe.
ANYWAY... I wonder if Ayu will ever sing Virgin road, Last angel, or Love song again. Oh and a recent newspaper is reporting that Ayu has paid Mannie around 200,000,000 yen in order to prevent him from ever writing a book or anything about being married to her and what have you. I guess he'd be sworn to secrecy. But don't know how true this is. |
Did you think that maybe Ayu and Shuya have a brother/sister relationship ??
My brother and I are very close, we always laugh together, I punch him humourously just like Ayu does to Shuya... Ayu often says her tour group and staff is like her family, so it's not surprising she is close to some of them, especially her dancers. I'm sure if Ayu and Shuya really wanted to be together, they would be together already. So I don't think there's anything more than good friendship/sibling relationship between them. |
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This picture of Shuya kissing Ayu's head is so cute.
I am still waiting for them to announce their relationship officially :) |
I can only wish Ayu would get together with Shuya. :(
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well, after the divorce announce あゆ still add him on the "friends" list I think she should remove him...
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I will always ship Ayu and Shuya.
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I wonder if Mannie would have said anything about her, had she not paid him. That's kind of a low thing to do and would speak volumes about his character.
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If it's true he got paid, that would make it even more likely it was faked.
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^^I dont think so. Its in Avex's best intentions that people dont say anything. I bet they made him sign a contract, and I wouldnt be surprised if they gave him incentives :shrug Or maybe the munny was a part of the prenup.
Its not uncommon for people with munny to have prenups that give something to the other person upon a divorce... |
Wait a minutue! Hold the phone... Shuya is GAY?!?!?! :innocent
And about the money... I hardly doubt that... i mean what could the book be about... I married Ayumi hamasaki... she left me in LA to fly off to japan like two weeks after and I never saw her again... What a seller... lol... (not that we dont know if they meet behind the senses or what not) |
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He could write tons of things. Sex life, beginnng of their relationship, diva attitude, etc etc
And it would be a best seller here. Haha it's just a form of protection. I mean madonnas brother wrote something about her that was a tell all or whatever and it didn't paint her in a very nice way :p |
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^ That's true! Perhaps it was a way of letting go?
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What would be interesting titles for a tell-all book that based from the rumor Mannie can't write.
I could only think of one... "I Married A Japanese Pop Star" |
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they are close but just as brother and sister. |
^ Shuya is cute, how old is he?
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anyway, read from a japanese friend's tweet, saying that ayu will hold a press conference today and will be broadcasted on Japanese TV, but donno what time and which TV Channel.
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Ayu is still performing HONEY in her concerts so why shouldn't she perform Virgin Road which probably was made even before she met Mannie? She might have other songs in her repertoire connected to certain people she no longer is close to should she stop performing them as well? Ayu lives the moment and doesn't regret.
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Yeah, I can see that.
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Although I do remember reading the reason she does not like to sing poker face much is because of how her Grandmother died after she left her side to go and record it.
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^But she did sing poker face again. Although she doesn't perform it often,, you're right because of her grandmother. But even though it is her debut song it wasn't such a big hit if I remember it correctly. She doesn't perform most of her earlier singles.
@happiholic★ HONEY is the Tomoya Nagase song. :) At least the most obvious one. There are probably more. |
I love HONEY though. I'm glad she still sings it.
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I do have to ask one question: If the earthquake and tsunami never happened, would Ayu still be married?
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interesting..
and that's a lot of money!!! Mannie can live happily ever after...if he can manage the money wisely |
I love how the article got her quote from Twitter totally wrong. I'm sure that wasn't intentional.
I wonder what Mannie would have said if he was allowed. I mean, the fact that she paid him of in the first place is a little curious. EDIT: I'm meant to say "I'm sure is was intentional". I think the tabloid wanted to twist her words. |
I hope that's just a tabloid article
can't imagine Ayu paid so much money for silence when she can help her country |
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^ I'm curious to know what the reasons are that you hate him :tired..
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that actually seems to be true. we all know this man can pose nude, with ugly strings and spread legs. so it'll cause lots of problem to ayu's career if he continues doing it :laugh
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eh meh. Obviously Ayu and Avex still care about her image.
And there are so many ways they could have reached that amount. I dont think it reflects bad on Mannie...maybe the fact that he'd accept it, or that there was a lack of trust in the marriage. Shouldnt have gotten married then! |
I really don't see how this reflects badly on Mannie =|
Under many laws, he'd be entitled to half her fortune, so a set amount of ~$2mil USD isn't that bad for her. Besides, he was her husband - who's to say he doesn't deserve anything? For Ayu's fortune that's a reasonable amount. I think this is more avex's doing than Ayu's... I think she's happy to be frank about the break up since she posted that she simply didn't feel close to him anymore. Avex is probably panicking thinking he'd sell stories to the media. But I don't think Mannie would do that - he hadn't for the 15 months they'd been "together" so why he'd start now is just absurd...if he had intentions to sell the story, we'd have seen him on TV in Austria or in a Japanese magazine talking about their married life.....he may be Ayu's husband, but he's still a nobody in Japan. |
I wouldn't believe a single word about it... $3.2 million must be like spare change to Ayu anyway
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hmm wondering if that article is true or not.
hope it's not true. i wish they divorce peacefully, not like one side paying money to other side to keep silent. |
I was actually wishing for a tell-all book from Mannie. Although, I would completely lose my respect for him (not that I have any to begin with) But, I think paying him was for the best. I don't think it reflects bad on him. Nor does it highlights Ayu's lack of trust.
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It's probably not true. If Mannie were that type of person, we'd have seen it by now.
I feel kinda bad for Leslie since he just wanted to do something nice for Ayu (well, all of those books were rather... interesting. Mannie's was actually the most tame.) by doing the photobook with Mannie and now it's being used as a reason for their divorce which is completely stupid. |
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Anyway, I'm not so sure I believe the gag order tidbit. Anonymous sources aren't the most trustworthy. |
In Shinjuku nichome (gaystreet) they were selling his SUPER MANNY on gay porn stores. Found it epic.
BUT; I think its sad it didnt work out, even though I never liked Manny. |
"Other conditions of the agreement include not being allowed to pose for a nude pictorial, work for any Japanese publishing house, discuss anything about her with anyone or ask for more money in future."
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---- on thing i don't get it... why forbid someone to pose the **** out of their nude ass after the separation haappened?:innocent .....or did I get something wrong? |
What's this about a divorce settlement? Are you guys just speculating?
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Its the rumor. Its been rumored like, since the divorce happened.
Personally, as a celebrity, I find the settlement nearly obligatory, as an idealist, I would have hoped that there would be enough trust between them that one isnt needed. Thats what I meant by lack of trust. Of course, that almost never happens. I think the nudity clause is hilarious. We dont need to see where Ayu's.......anyway.... |
So, wait, is the settlement that Ayu/Avex said that Mannie wasn't allowed to pose nude true?
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^I don't think so, it's just a rumor. And basically he did for SUPER MANUEL... xD
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^Cause what I was thinking is that, if it was true that Ayu/Avex didn't want Mannie to pose naked, ever, it would make the rumor that Ayu dumped Mannie over Super Mannie more likely.
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^yeah, but if this would be true, I think she wouldn't work with Leslie anymore 'cause he was the one who came up with the idea of those photos.
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