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elaniel 26th January 2012 02:16 PM

I think we all need to hope this hits 150k and we should be lucky. That's a big drop. I'm assuming the first day numbers were a lot of the fans buying the special editions (2 DVD version and photo book edition.). Now all we're left with is mostly casual buyers.

Bad Wolf 26th January 2012 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krauterol (Post 2808509)
JAPONESQUES 2nd day sales:

#1 18.934

what a big drop... :(

Total sales so far:

59.702

what the ****? this is embarrassing -- not for kuu, IMO, but for avex and all those shmucks in charge of the promotion this time around. kuu's one of the major acts in the jpop scene right now, yes? if you don't count idols and imported korean acts (which i don't lol because i think they're just... no), that is. numbers like this are just a disgrace. this is freakin' single sales level right hurr.

setsuka 26th January 2012 02:46 PM

it is bad,but no should be surprised

avex done goofed this time on Kuu

Lady~Deviance 26th January 2012 02:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bondingo (Post 2807567)

However, now that I've heard the entire album through watching all the PVs, I'm a little bit disappointed. It's a solid album, but it has hardly any standout tracks. The production is amazing throughout, but I can't help but feel that barely any of the songs have any real standout melodies or hooks. While I'd say that it seems to be her second most consistent album next to BEST~ss~, I wouldn't exactly rank it her second best at this point. Then again, that's only after the first listen and not in order (since the order on the DVD is by genre). I'm sure it will grow on me with time. At least I can say for the first DVD and amazing packaging alone, I don't regret the purchase.

^ I completely agree with you. To me this album was nothing special due to its incessant use of "safety net" compositions and weak bridges/choruses. Many Kuu fans/stans that I personally know were highly disappointed with the album which greatly surprised me and refuse to purchase the album. The songs simply did not grab their attention in any way shape or form. It just seems with each new album she releases the more discontented I become. :shrug

Bad Wolf 26th January 2012 02:56 PM

^ this does not bode well. D:

MissElin_ 26th January 2012 03:05 PM

Wow the sales are low. Very low. I'm quite supriced. No. Very supriced. It's really not fair. But the J-pop queens are for the moment less popular than those k-pop groups.

Chiharo 26th January 2012 03:12 PM

LMAO I'm glad to know I'm not the only one who thinks JAPONESQUE wasn't all that epic like people portrayed it.

Heavenly 26th January 2012 03:13 PM

YesAsia say that my order is ready to be shipped...

Ready to be shipped, ready to be shipped... Then SHIP IT dudes, please ! T___T

TeamAyu2004 26th January 2012 03:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heavenly (Post 2808507)
I just cut some part to fit the rhythm, but in the whole, it fitted the song very perfectly anyway :) And it has the "Follow Me" feelings.

That is pretty amazing.. it's almost like they listened to the song and made that video.. lol

Quote:

Originally Posted by krauterol (Post 2808509)
JAPONESQUES 2nd day sales:

#1 18.934

what a big drop... :(

Total sales so far:

59.702

MAN! that sucks.. poor koda... maybe she planned the baby so she can bow out respectively before she just doesn't sell anything anymore.. lol

I wonder how the album is doing download wise??

setsuka 26th January 2012 03:23 PM

number 3 on itunes, I dunno about the rest,I am not too concerned
(and of course Brave is the most popular track)

her sales are low because of her labels action but even so in two days she outsold 3/4 of the other Jpop females so her career is no danger, really every Kuu fan I know loves the hell out of this album XD

I dunno Kuu for me gets better each year

Minttulatte 26th January 2012 03:28 PM

Wow, those sales are surprisingly low, to be honest. I thought album would read near 100K sales today but no. I hope JAPONESQUE won't become a flop though because that's when I'll get angry. D: JAPONESQUE is a awesome album and deserves better sales. ;__;

TeamAyu2004 26th January 2012 03:31 PM

^ actions? From what I understand they did a lot.. Posters, CM's... tie-ins?
What else is there? Promotion on the net

MissElin_ 26th January 2012 03:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heavenly (Post 2808602)
YesAsia say that my order is ready to be shipped...

Ready to be shipped, ready to be shipped... Then SHIP IT dudes, please ! T___T

ARGH same for me!! (CD+DVD)

Well at least CDJapan shipped my copy yesterday. (CD+2DVD)

setsuka 26th January 2012 03:45 PM

she had zero tie-ins for this album,no promotion till the week before or even cms,no live performances , lol they didn't even feature her new album on their youtube page

trucks and poster are standard for almost most Jpop releases,like Crystal Kay and she barely sells

I mean avex acted really slowly but even then they haven't done much for this album safe release it

anyway I am not pressed about sales,they don't reflect anything on the album, if she recorded pop perfection she would still get these sales

Zeke. 26th January 2012 05:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bondingo
However, now that I've heard the entire album through watching all the PVs, I'm a little bit disappointed. It's a solid album, but it has hardly any standout tracks. The production is amazing throughout, but I can't help but feel that barely any of the songs have any real standout melodies or hooks. While I'd say that it seems to be her second most consistent album next to BEST~ss~, I wouldn't exactly rank it her second best at this point. Then again, that's only after the first listen and not in order (since the order on the DVD is by genre). I'm sure it will grow on me with time. At least I can say for the first DVD and amazing packaging alone, I don't regret the purchase.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lady~Deviance (Post 2808592)
^ I completely agree with you. To me this album was nothing special due to its incessant use of "safety net" compositions and weak bridges/choruses. Many Kuu fans/stans that I personally know were highly disappointed with the album which greatly surprised me and refuse to purchase the album. The songs simply did not grab their attention in any way shape or form. It just seems with each new album she releases the more discontented I become. :shrug

:hi5 Yes, yes and yes. The only songs I feel the want to listen to are Love Technique, No Man's Land, and IN THE AIR. For me, the one's I love aren't even some of my ABSOLUTE FAVORITES (besides IN THE AIR but that is a single track). This album is just so boring for me because of this.

They clearly did put a lot of effort into production though. I mean, the photoshoot was amazing, the arrangement and overall quality of the music was great (despite the songs themselves being blah), they went all out with the packaging and having high quality PVs for every single track... So what exactly was avex's strategy here by having so little promotion? They basically shot themselves (and Kumi) in the foot by putting ALL THAT EFFORT into this album and then hoping it would sell itself. What a bunch of idiots. avex should no by now promotion can do wonders - I mean, look at how much the promotion for BEST ~first things~ and the 12 singles project affected her career. Not saying she could ever attain that kind of peak again since she was very FRESH yet, but she still has the power to impact the market with promo. But I guess it is hard to say without the Japanese perspective.

Linoa62 26th January 2012 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tenshi no hane (Post 2807989)
Could any of the people who already received their CD pretty please take photos of the lyrics in the booklet? I'd like to use them for my translations.

Do you still need the official lyrics? They're up on uta-net.
All for you: http://www.uta-net.com/song/124769/
Love Technique: http://www.uta-net.com/song/124770/
Lay Down: http://www.uta-net.com/song/124771/
No Man's Land: http://www.uta-net.com/song/124772/
ESCALATE: http://www.uta-net.com/song/124773/
Everyday: http://www.uta-net.com/song/124774/
Brave: http://www.uta-net.com/song/124775/
Slow feat. Omarion: http://www.uta-net.com/song/124776/
VIP feat. T-PAIN: http://www.uta-net.com/song/124777/
Boom Boom Boys: http://www.uta-net.com/song/124778/
So Nice feat. Mr Blistah: http://www.uta-net.com/song/124779/

jyujiw 26th January 2012 05:46 PM

Hell no for the sales. Just.

Heldin 26th January 2012 06:20 PM

Hey guys, I'm not so much in the Koda stuff, mostly, I'm an Ayu listener, but I feel I just have to say that: this album is absolutely epic! Each and every song. I'm not so into dance and r'n'b music, but when I listen to BBB I feel like dancing and screaming, no matter, where I am. It's funny, I couldn't even listen to her recent singles, but when I found VIP, KO-SO-KO-SO and even Ai wo tomenaide it felt just like a little discovery for me. This album is a great mix of rhythm, melody, beat, sex and dance. It'll warm me up during the cold winter. Definitely!

tenshi no hane 26th January 2012 06:32 PM

@Luna62: I already saw them but thanks for posting ^-^

--

No Man’s Land (translation)
Spoiler:
No Man’s Land

No man’s no man’s no man’s land...

You’re all talk. I hate you
Ding dong ding dong ding ding ding dong yo
I actually trusted you. I look like an idiot now
Ding dong ding dong ding ding ding dong yo
Our love is closed
Even the meaning of goodbye is unclear
I've woken up to reality
I want to forget right now

I’ve been running in circles round and round
A mysterious merry-go-round
I know I can set myself free
From an inescapable area
No matter how long it takes
Wooo wooo
Welcome to no man’s land

No man’s no man’s no man’s land...

Zero zero, erasing my memory
I was an independent woman, new hero
Uh lalalala
Looking painfully deep inside my heart

I’ve been running in circles round and round
A mysterious merry-go-round
I know I can set myself free
From an inescapable area
No matter how long it takes
Wooo wooo
Welcome to no man’s land

No man’s no man’s no man’s land...

No matter where I go this is still my home
I’ve grown used to the pain. This is my home
No matter where I go this is still my home
I don’t have to see a new world anymore

Everybody put your hands like this

I’ve been running in circles round and round
A mysterious merry-go-round
I know I can set myself free
From an inescapable area
No matter how long it takes
Wooo wooo
Welcome to no man’s land

No man’s no man’s no man’s land...

ayu_ready? 26th January 2012 07:06 PM

WTF WITH SALES OH GOD NO!!!

Do u guys think she'll be gone from now on then? like, "I have a baby now, I worked on my new stuff 24/7 but people do not want it, okay, I'll quit"

wtf wtf wtf
:(

Quote:

Originally Posted by setsuka (Post 2808609)
I dunno Kuu for me gets better each year

me too! :)


Quote:

Originally Posted by setsuka (Post 2808619)
she had zero tie-ins for this album,no promotion till the week before or even cms,no live performances , lol they didn't even feature her new album on their youtube page

trucks and poster are standard for almost most Jpop releases,like Crystal Kay and she barely sells

I mean avex acted really slowly but even then they haven't done much for this album safe release it

anyway I am not pressed about sales,they don't reflect anything on the album, if she recorded pop perfection she would still get these sales

:yes


Quote:

Originally Posted by tenshi no hane (Post 2808684)
@Luna62: I already saw them but thanks for posting ^-^

--

No Man’s Land (translation)
Spoiler:
No Man’s Land

No man’s no man’s no man’s land...

You’re all talk. I hate you
Ding dong ding dong ding ding ding dong yo
I actually trusted you. I look like an idiot now
Ding dong ding dong ding ding ding dong yo
Our love is closed
Even the meaning of goodbye is unclear
I've woken up to reality
I want to forget right now

I’ve been running in circles round and round
A mysterious merry-go-round
I know I can set myself free
From an inescapable area
No matter how long it takes
Wooo wooo
Welcome to no man’s land

No man’s no man’s no man’s land...

Zero zero, erasing my memory
I was an independent woman, new hero
Uh lalalala
Looking painfully deep inside my heart

I’ve been running in circles round and round
A mysterious merry-go-round
I know I can set myself free
From an inescapable area
No matter how long it takes
Wooo wooo
Welcome to no man’s land

No man’s no man’s no man’s land...

No matter where I go this is still my home
I’ve grown used to the pain. This is my home
No matter where I go this is still my home
I don’t have to see a new world anymore

Everybody put your hands like this

I’ve been running in circles round and round
A mysterious merry-go-round
I know I can set myself free
From an inescapable area
No matter how long it takes
Wooo wooo
Welcome to no man’s land

No man’s no man’s no man’s land...

I'm lovin' it! :D

krauterol 26th January 2012 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayu_ready? (Post 2808691)
WTF WITH SALES OH GOD NO!!!

Do u guys think she'll be gone from now on then? like, "I have a baby now, I worked on my new stuff 24/7 but people do not want it, okay, I'll quit"

wtf wtf wtf
:(

really? :s please guys, don't be dramatic!
almost 60k in two days, so probably she will surpass 100k at the end of the week. Still holding #1 spot (what exactly means that is the best selling album of the week. Yeah, it's pretty obvious, but it seems there are people that needs to hear that to realise)
two of her singles this year reached the top of legal downloads on chaku-uta (Poppin' love for two weeks).
Her last concert in Tokio Dome was sold out (Fantasia), and it was just some months ago.

Do you REALLY think that she will think that she has to quit from the music market??
Obviously there's a lot of work on JAPONESQUE, and she deserves better sales, but be realistic guys, she's still strong in the music industry. There are lots of musicians with lots of talent that NEVER will reach the marks she's doing nowadays. And forget her peak, it won't happen again, but it's still nice how 10 years later since her debut she's still capable to put her album on the top of Oricon.

SheFliesHigher 26th January 2012 09:32 PM

Yikes on the sales. I do like this album overall. I appreciate that she tried some different things like the acoustic tracks, but my favorites are the more "generic" club beats like Escalate.

Tracks 1-5 are all very strong. This first part of the album is great.
Tracks 6-10 are rather weak, EXCEPT for "In The Air", which I love to bits.
The rest of the album is good, except I don't like "ai wo tomenaide" or "All for You".

Her english isn't all that great on most tracks, which surprises me a bit, because I felt like she had improved.

I might like Deja Vu better, but this album is certainly nothing to pass up. It's too bad the sales are so low.

happiholic★ 26th January 2012 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayu_ready? (Post 2808691)
WTF WITH SALES OH GOD NO!!!

Do u guys think she'll be gone from now on then? like, "I have a baby now, I worked on my new stuff 24/7 but people do not want it, okay, I'll quit"





I don't think Kuu would be so spiteful, especially because I feel that Kuu is a singer because she loves singing, not for the money or the fame.

Bad Wolf 26th January 2012 09:54 PM

^ exactly. people in japan might make this seem like a reason for her to jump ship and retire, but i hope that kuu will listen instead to what she wants to do.

krauterol 26th January 2012 09:58 PM

like the lyrics of Candy:

no,no.. I'm not about money..

haha xD

AyumiAi 26th January 2012 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lady~Deviance (Post 2808564)
^ That was very entertaining and a pleasure to watch. Great editing work on your part. I loved it! ;)


Wow...I know a few individuals on this forum, myself included, predicted lower sales but not to this degree. :no I still believe that 'Japonesque' will past the 200k mark eventually. :yes

I really doubt it, Dejavu barely managed to reach 200k and with second day sales like those... >.<

TeamAyu2004 26th January 2012 11:02 PM

it will go gold!

maze 27th January 2012 10:07 AM

thanks for the translations, tenshi ;)

I feel like the lyrics for this album are different, like more deeper and strong.
she really did a good job with Japonesque, the more I listen to it the more I love it~
I'm so proud of her right now.

need my copy to watch all the PVs, damnnn

ryben 27th January 2012 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tenshi no hane (Post 2808684)
@Luna62: I already saw them but thanks for posting ^-^

--

No Man’s Land (translation)
Spoiler:
No Man’s Land

No man’s no man’s no man’s land...

You’re all talk. I hate you
Ding dong ding dong ding ding ding dong yo
I actually trusted you. I look like an idiot now
Ding dong ding dong ding ding ding dong yo
Our love is closed
Even the meaning of goodbye is unclear
I've woken up to reality
I want to forget right now

I’ve been running in circles round and round
A mysterious merry-go-round
I know I can set myself free
From an inescapable area
No matter how long it takes
Wooo wooo
Welcome to no man’s land

No man’s no man’s no man’s land...

Zero zero, erasing my memory
I was an independent woman, new hero
Uh lalalala
Looking painfully deep inside my heart

I’ve been running in circles round and round
A mysterious merry-go-round
I know I can set myself free
From an inescapable area
No matter how long it takes
Wooo wooo
Welcome to no man’s land

No man’s no man’s no man’s land...

No matter where I go this is still my home
I’ve grown used to the pain. This is my home
No matter where I go this is still my home
I don’t have to see a new world anymore

Everybody put your hands like this

I’ve been running in circles round and round
A mysterious merry-go-round
I know I can set myself free
From an inescapable area
No matter how long it takes
Wooo wooo
Welcome to no man’s land

No man’s no man’s no man’s land...

Thanks for translating, most relatable lyrics atm. Right up there with Work it out!. Kuu is love.

AyuGAME 27th January 2012 10:34 AM

Third day : 10015 (position 1)

Total so far : 69.717

TITANIC 27th January 2012 10:56 AM

urrghh she deserves much better sales. at this rate I think she won't be able to hit 100K

tenshi no hane 27th January 2012 11:20 AM

Pity she's getting such low sales. It's a really great album imo. I can't wait for my copy to arrive :D

--
ESCALATE (translation)
Spoiler:
ESCALATE

Till the break of dawn dawn
You'd better hurry chop chop boom! (Kind of, like of)
Till the break of dawn dawn
You'd better hurry chop chop boom! (I gotta)
Till the break of dawn dawn
You'd better hurry chop chop boom boom!
Till the break of dawn dawn
You'd better hurry chop chop boom!

Don’t think it’s too much
Don’t stop, escalate more and more!
Take it no more ‘cause I know know, gotta know all
More! One more! More! One more!

Hanging out all night every day
Feelings escalate more and more
Take it no more ‘cause I know know, gotta know all
See? From my fingertips tic tic tic, I wanna make sure tap tap tap

I gotta game all way. You’d better play all day
No way! Escalate! No way!
I gotta game all way. You’d better play all day
Welcome! Escalate! Don’t stop!

Till the break of dawn dawn
You'd better hurry chop chop boom boom
Till the break of dawn dawn
You'd better hurry chop!

No time-out every night
Don’t stop, escalate more and more!
Gotta show me your love, what up! Gotta hit me! Haaa ha! ha!
More! One more! One more!

I’m a perceptive one
On a whim, jump aboard! Escalate!
Take it no more ‘cause I know know, gotta know all
See? From my fingertips tic tic tic, I wanna make sure tap tap tap

I gotta game all way. You’d better play all day
No way! Escalate! No way!
I gotta game all way. You’d better play all day
Welcome! Escalate! Don’t stop!

Brushing past each other is both our faults, right?
I chose you
If you can go over there
Be my guest, feel free to go

I gotta game all way. You’d better play all day
No way! Escalate! No way!
I gotta game all way. You’d better play all day
You’d better not forget I’m the one who makes the rules

I gotta game all way. You’d better play all day
No way! Escalate! No way!
I gotta game all way. You’d better play all day
Welcome! Escalate! Don’t stop!

Till the break of dawn dawn
You'd better hurry chop chop boom boom
Till the break of dawn dawn
You'd better hurry chop!
Till the break of dawn dawn
You'd better hurry chop chop boom boom
Till the break of dawn dawn
You'd better hurry chop!

xLuna&1LOVE 27th January 2012 11:38 AM

Maybe they have overlooked the promotion? :P

No, allright. It's only the 3rth Day. And it seems she is still selling, soo... do not lose hope/

AyumiAi 27th January 2012 12:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TITANIC (Post 2808896)
urrghh she deserves much better sales. at this rate I think she won't be able to hit 100K

I'm pretty sure it will manage to hit 100k, maybe not first week but eventually T_T

George 27th January 2012 12:40 PM

Can someone please post the covers for JAPONESQUE? (HQ preferably but anything will do. Especially looking for the limited edition cover) Thank you.

krauterol 27th January 2012 02:11 PM

I've already seen all JAPONESQUE pv's in HD. Some of them are way better to see on huge screen and with good definition. No man's land and Slow for example, epicness! And Brave is sooooo wonderful! Even ESCALATE in HD is awesome. Boom boom boys is even better, but All for you is my fave, so cute the ending, she's so thankful with her fans!!

Corvina 27th January 2012 02:59 PM

Her sales are absolutely ok!
She will sell about 100k within the first week, and so far the sales are about the same , just a bit less, like Dejavu. I'm so happy actually, cause I expected even less than that!
And like somebody already mentioned, she's still outselling most of the other female solo acts out there.
What did you guys expect? Why are you crying?
I totally can't understand you right now.

Anyway, recochoku sales for today:

Chaku Uta full:
#46 Brave (#36)
#71 Boom Boom Boys (#53)
#86 Everyday (#69)

Chaku Uta:
#46 Brave (#36)
#51 Boom Boom Boys (#46)
#56 Everyday (#52)
#71 Love Me Back (#97)
#85 No Man's Land (-)
#89 Slow feat. Omarion (-)

Videoclips:
#12 Boom Boom Boys (#11)
#41 So Nice feat. Mr.Blistah (#59)
#48 Brave (#41)
#49 V.I.P. feat. T-PAIN (#39)
#50 Lay Down (#35)
#56 Everyday (#51)
#71 Love Technique (#61)
#82 Love Me Back (#69)

Movies:
#21 Boom Boom Boys (#15)
#24 Brave (#33)
#25 So Nice feat. Mr.Blistah (#52)
#36 Love Me Back (#27)
#51 ESCALATE (-)
#55 All for you (#68)
#57 Everyday (#22)
#67 Love Tecnique (#54)

RBT:
#12 Brave (#8)
#39 Slow feat. Omarion (#47)
#49 Everyday (#70)
#53 Boom Boom Boys (#54)
#63 Love Technique (-)
#66 Ai wo tomenaide (#53)
#73 No Man's Land (#59)

Ayu_Love 27th January 2012 03:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heavenly (Post 2808298)
Found an artistic video here, with which i fell in love, and i decided to make it a video for INTRODUCTION ~JAPONESQUE~.



What do you think about it ?

That's amazing, I love it! :heart

Quote:

Originally Posted by happiholic★ (Post 2808748)
I don't think Kuu would be so spiteful, especially because I feel that Kuu is a singer because she loves singing, not for the money or the fame.

This, of course! I don't think Kuu cares about sales as much as the joy she gets from singing and being 'koda kumi'. She always stays true to who she is as 'koda kumi', for her fans and for herself, even if she knows that she can get bad rep from it. If she cared about sales, she'd be styling younger, dressed up as a school girl and dancing around, singing in a hit pitched note like AKB48. As they seem to be the craze at the moment. She's nearly 30 though, which I suppose is considered 'older' in Japan. (Which is stupid.) And like people have said, tbf, she's been around for 10 years as is still managing to hit the top spot at Oricon.

Of course I am worried about the sales of JAPONESQUE, I did think it would do a little better, but considering there has been no lives yet or very little TV promotion, it's doing OK! And to be honest, I want to see what the digital sales are, as Kuu seems to be a stronger digital seller, I think.

I don't believe Kuu's sales will go up again, the sexy-cute era is gone, But she is still getting #1, her concerts are still being sold out, and she still has a huge fanbase that loves her. She also is moving to a stage in her life where music will not be her main job anymore, shell have a child to raise now. BUT her music IS improving over the years, as she in finding more inspiration. I mean, JAPONESQUE is awesome, so I have high hopes for the next album! I just want her to make good music. :heart

kaled kalil 27th January 2012 04:05 PM

Quote:

Her sales are absolutely ok!
She will sell about 100k within the first week, and so far the sales are about the same , just a bit less, like Dejavu. I'm so happy actually, cause I expected even less than that!
And like somebody already mentioned, she's still outselling most of the other female solo acts out there.
What did you guys expect? Why are you crying?
I totally can't understand you right now.
This. I'm surprised that she might sell about 100k in the first week, I was really expecting less than that.

Minttulatte 27th January 2012 04:23 PM

Well, even though the sales aren't as high as we wished, it doesn't really matter because the most important thing is the music itself. I also believe that Kuu isn't really doing this for the money. I can't imagine her even thinking that way, she just isn't that kind of a person imo. :)

JAPONESQUE's pure perfection and that's all I need to know. <3

Ayu_Love 27th January 2012 04:26 PM

To be honest, I don't think it's just to do with bad sales in Japan any more, I think for both Kuu and Ayu, their sales are declining because, as much as I don't wish to say it, people are not as interested in them now as they used to be? Not that they don't love them but, I think Kuu and Ayu have always kept their old style and have become more like national treasures now, like Madonna and Christina aguilera (only comparing based on fame and sales). I say this because despite the declining sales for Kuu and Ayu, Namie isnt declining at all, and she's been around longer than both (1995). If you look at her sales, she's selling more each year with albums, and tends to fluctuate between selling the same or selling more with her singles. Namie is still very much in fashion, I think. Her recent single has done very well.

I think if Kuu were to look at the most recent of who and what is in fashion, and based her sexy style around that, she would be of more interest. I mean, when Namie came back in 1998, between 200 to 2004, her sales declined heavily, but when she re-invented herself in 2005 with 'PLAY' as the hip-hop queen, her sales have gone up ever since, never to the peak of 1999 and below, but since 2000, Namie's album sales have been climbing with each release. But I don't think Kuu will changer her image much. She does what she wants, what she feels she wants to do to grow as an artist, and as a singer. I think Kuu needs a new snap, and I think Kenji is kinda the muse that has begun to give it to her, but I think as long as she follows what goals she has, I think shell find a new one. It would be awesome to see Kuu kinda re-design herself for her comeback.

I do sometimes feel that kuu styles herself quite older now sometimes, even though she's only 30. I adore how she is styled in Lay Down, she should keep a younger look like that! And sometimes I think she tends to go too modern electro-poppy like with Okay and Lay Down, which tends to be my least favourite fast tracks. I love electro-pop, especially in KPOP, I just don't feel like Kuu picks the right songs for her, sometimes? I do think when Kuu does good old R'n'B, Jrock, Dance like Driving, Taboo and ESCALATE, and Jpop that is really her forte. :)

I would die if she did another cover album, put instead it's like a rock or r'n'b album instead of ballad. D: AND YAY FOR DRIVING HITS 4!!

TeamAyu2004 27th January 2012 04:42 PM

^ Actually Namie's sales are declining year after year..
if you look at her Best fiction era (Total Reported Sales: 1,840,088)
to Past Future (Total Reported Sales: 575,501) to checkmate (Total Reported Sales: 484,336)

Also though, even though Namie has been around longer, she almost flopped out with the album STYLE and I think it also helped that Namie basically reinvented herself...

But I agree that Ayu and kuu really dont reinvent themselves very well.. they change, slightly, but it stiff the same stuff I believe...
Also it doesn't help that they have totally saturated the market every since coming onto the scene.. (more kuu than Ayu however)

Corvina 27th January 2012 04:44 PM

Making of JAPONESQUE pic:
http://i44.tinypic.com/tlav.jpg

Thanks to kinot@weibo and her FC


JAPONESQUE song credits

Spoiler:
Introduction ~JAPONESQUE~
Lyrics, music & arrangement by Maria Marcus

So Nice feat. Mr.Blistah
Lyrics by Koda Kumi
Music by Bardur Haberg, Andrew Lane and Kasey Monroe
Arrangement by Bardur Haberg

Boom Boom Boys
Written by Koda Kumi, Toby Gad, Lindy Robbins and Caterina Torres
All instruments and arrangement by Toby Gad

V.I.P. feat. T-Pain
Written by Koda Kumi, Toby Gad, Jessica Cornish and T-Pain
All instruments and arrangement by Toby Gad

Slow feat. Omarion
Lyrics by Koda Kumi
Music by Tommy Clint

Brave
Lyrics by Koda Kumi
Music by Hitoshi Harukawa
Arrangement by Daisuke Kahara & Shinjiroh Inoue
Strins arrangement by Udai Shika

Everyday
Lyrics by Koda Kumi & HIRO
Music by HIRO

IN THE AIR
Lyrics by Koda Kumi
Music by FAST LANE and Erik Lidbom
Arrangement by Erik Lidbom

You are not alone (acoustic version)
Lyrics by Koda Kumi
Music by Takuya Harada

Interlude ~JAPONESQUE~
Music & arrangement by Martin Svensson
All instruments by Martin Svensson

ESCALATE
Lyrics by Koda Kumi & ARIA
Music by ARIA
All instruments by dee.c

Love Me Back
Lyrics by Koda Kumi
Music by Matthew Tishler & Liz Rodrigues
All instruments by Matthew Tishler
Additional instruments: Shinjiroh Inoue

No Man's Land
Lyrics by Koda Kumi, Mr.Blistah, Pete Kirtley, Jorge Mhondera and Samiya Berrabah
Music by Jorge Mhondera, Pete Kirtley, Samiya Berrabah and Mr.Blistah
Arrangements by Kenichi Asami, Toshiyuki Takao, Satoshi Yamada, Daisuke Sakurai, Pete Kirtley and Jorge Mhondera

Ai wo tomenaide
Lyrics by Koda Kumi
Music & arrangement by Naohisa Taniguchi
Strings arrangement by Hitoshi Munakata

KO-SO-KO-SO
Lyrics by Koda Kumi, Allan P. Grigg and Kenichi Takemoto
Music by KoOol KoJaK and Kenichi Takemoto
All instruments by KoOol KoJaK

Lay Down
Lyrics by Koda Kumi, Matthew Tishler, Adam Royce and Kat Lucas
Music by Matthew Tishler, Adam Royce and Kat Lucas
All instruments by A. Beatard

Love Technique
Lyrics by Koda Kumi
Music by SeoGy and Genie
Arrangement by Genie
All instruments by Genie

Poppin' love cocktail feat. TEEDA
Lyrics by Koda Kumi & TEEDA
Music by BACK-ON
Arrangements by BACK-ON & JIN
All instruments by BACK-ON & JIN

All for you
Lyrics by Koda Kumi
Music & arrangement by Hi-yunk
Guitar: Hi-yunk

Bigtop 27th January 2012 04:59 PM

I'm kind of speculating that the lower-than-usual sales may be because some people are not aware that the release was actually pushed forward... Their minds still say 2/1, but the album is being released a week earlier to 1/25...

Ayu_Love 27th January 2012 05:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 2808980)
^ Actually Namie's sales are declining year after year..
if you look at her Best fiction era (Total Reported Sales: 1,840,088)
to Past Future (Total Reported Sales: 575,501) to checkmate (Total Reported Sales: 484,336)

Also though, even though Namie has been around longer, she almost flopped out with the album STYLE and I think it also helped that Namie basically reinvented herself...

But I agree that Ayu and kuu really dont reinvent themselves very well.. they change, slightly, but it stiff the same stuff I believe...
Also it doesn't help that they have totally saturated the market every since coming onto the scene.. (more kuu than Ayu however)

That's true, although in terms of studio albums 'PLAY' sold about 540,000 and Past < Future actually outsold it slightly more with an increase to about 600,000. It's small but still an increase. :) STYLE was in that period between 2000 to 2004, where her sales really dropped, until 2005 where they begun to pick up again, after she re-invented herself.

You are right though. Kuu is my #1 fav artist of all time, and always will be. Ayu is also a old favourite of mine. But they do need to reinvent themselves. They've tried all sorts of different styles between albums, and different genre's, I think. But in terms of image, how they produce their albums and singles etc they haven't changed that much, in my opinnion. Like for example, I love every one of Kuu's albums, but when it comes to Kuu you can always tell what kind of tracks will always been on there. If you think about it, At least for UNIVERSE, Dejavu and JAPONESQUE, I would say (Even though JAPONESQUE is certainly a step forward in terms of songs and production) they have similar layouts in terms of songs, and genre, as well as production. There will always been a few cute songs and ballads, maybe 1-2 rock songs, then some dance and r'n'b. And while I LOVE about Kuu that her albums has a mix of genre, I think she has stuck to the same formula to produce her albums over the years. I think people have just come to expect it? I think what people need is a breath of fresh (sexy) air, and for Kuu to produce things slightly differently, like even in DEJAVU tour, she mixed up the setlist, so it didn't end on 'Walk' anymore, and it was an amazing show. I remember it fondly just because of that small change, and the fact she produced and sang it AMAZINGLY.

I have to say though, I think JAPOESQUE is a good step forward, Kenji has been a good muse in a different direction, even though she's still stuck to the same formula. The production for JAPONESQUE's theme is probably one of the best if not the best for an album Kuu has done. I love the covers and the design, the production is top quality. I think if she can keep that, but just change how she produces or chooses her songs for the next album to something a little different, that would be awesome. :love

And that's a good point, Bigtop...

Gustavopc 27th January 2012 05:19 PM

There are many reasons for JAPONESQUE low sales, and I agree with all your ideas. Especially what ayu_love said about her formula for albums, which imo is being the same since secret.
I dream of Kumi making a temporary unite with a band [BACK-ON would be the best one for many reasons]. This would add much more to her style and make her grow as an artist. Her voice is getting more powerful through the years, so I think that giving a bigger attention to her rockish side would be the best bet that they could do, and looks like she's already giving a try to it, looking at BBBoys, No Man's Land and even Poppin' love cocktail you can see a bit of it.
Also, I think she's aware of this need of changes, and now that she's completed 10 studio albums, she will renew a bit her "Koda Kumi" image. She feels she needs to change, and as a proof she hasn't released a summer song like Lick me and 674 other similar tracks since 2010. I think she said it on a magazine interview, that she felt she should change her summer tracks style, and both tries [Lollipop and PLC] were quite successful. Next step is changing her ballads style now hahaha :D I'd love Kuu to release some songs like No way to say by ayu or Believe by Maki Goto.

Heavenly 27th January 2012 05:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corvina (Post 2808981)
JAPONESQUE song credits

Spoiler:
Introduction ~JAPONESQUE~
Lyrics, music & arrangement by Maria Marcus

So Nice feat. Mr.Blistah
Lyrics by Koda Kumi
Music by Bardur Haberg, Andrew Lane and Kasey Monroe
Arrangement by Bardur Haberg

Boom Boom Boys
Written by Koda Kumi, Toby Gad, Lindy Robbins and Caterina Torres
All instruments and arrangement by Toby Gad

V.I.P. feat. T-Pain
Written by Koda Kumi, Toby Gad, Jessica Cornish and T-Pain
All instruments and arrangement by Toby Gad

Slow feat. Omarion
Lyrics by Koda Kumi
Music by Tommy Clint

Brave
Lyrics by Koda Kumi
Music by Hitoshi Harukawa
Arrangement by Daisuke Kahara & Shinjiroh Inoue
Strins arrangement by Udai Shika

Everyday
Lyrics by Koda Kumi & HIRO
Music by HIRO

IN THE AIR
Lyrics by Koda Kumi
Music by FAST LANE and Erik Lidbom
Arrangement by Erik Lidbom

You are not alone (acoustic version)
Lyrics by Koda Kumi
Music by Takuya Harada

Interlude ~JAPONESQUE~
Music & arrangement by Martin Svensson
All instruments by Martin Svensson

ESCALATE
Lyrics by Koda Kumi & ARIA
Music by ARIA
All instruments by dee.c

Love Me Back
Lyrics by Koda Kumi
Music by Matthew Tishler & Liz Rodrigues
All instruments by Matthew Tishler
Additional instruments: Shinjiroh Inoue

No Man's Land
Lyrics by Koda Kumi, Mr.Blistah, Pete Kirtley, Jorge Mhondera and Samiya Berrabah
Music by Jorge Mhondera, Pete Kirtley, Samiya Berrabah and Mr.Blistah
Arrangements by Kenichi Asami, Toshiyuki Takao, Satoshi Yamada, Daisuke Sakurai, Pete Kirtley and Jorge Mhondera

Ai wo tomenaide
Lyrics by Koda Kumi
Music & arrangement by Naohisa Taniguchi
Strings arrangement by Hitoshi Munakata

KO-SO-KO-SO
Lyrics by Koda Kumi, Allan P. Grigg and Kenichi Takemoto
Music by KoOol KoJaK and Kenichi Takemoto
All instruments by KoOol KoJaK

Lay Down
Lyrics by Koda Kumi, Matthew Tishler, Adam Royce and Kat Lucas
Music by Matthew Tishler, Adam Royce and Kat Lucas
All instruments by A. Beatard

Love Technique
Lyrics by Koda Kumi
Music by SeoGy and Genie
Arrangement by Genie
All instruments by Genie

Poppin' love cocktail feat. TEEDA
Lyrics by Koda Kumi & TEEDA
Music by BACK-ON
Arrangements by BACK-ON & JIN
All instruments by BACK-ON & JIN

All for you
Lyrics by Koda Kumi
Music & arrangement by Hi-yunk
Guitar: Hi-yunk

There's a lot of non-Japanese people in her staff !

Corvina 27th January 2012 05:31 PM

Most of those people aren't part of her staff! :laugh
They're the songwriters.
Kuu always had western styled music and the matching image, but in the last years they adopted more and more western demos in her discography.

emi♡ 27th January 2012 05:38 PM

I love her staff and songwriters, gives us such an interesting mix of sounds.

I personally was hoping for at least 100k in the first week. I think it will have a very hard time reaching 200k. Her sales decline like 20k every album lol

And this album had little promo...and shes not very popular...She could always do much worse.

AyuHamasaki01 27th January 2012 06:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heavenly (Post 2808602)
YesAsia say that my order is ready to be shipped...

Ready to be shipped, ready to be shipped... Then SHIP IT dudes, please ! T___T

Quote:

Originally Posted by MissElin_ (Post 2808617)
ARGH same for me!! (CD+DVD)

I'm glad I'm not the only one~

setsuka 27th January 2012 08:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emi♥ (Post 2809006)
And this album had little promo...and shes not very popular...She could always do much worse.

her sales may be low,but I wouldn't call Kuu unpopular or not very,she is still super famous maybe not the most in trend,but there are plenty of famous Japanese singers who are famous but don't sell too much and some that do sell a lot but aren't popular,like those 48s sub-nits or JEs that have too many faces

My dream would be for Kuu to make a RnB album,like completely one style:love
kinda like a BENI or Crystal Kay album

ummm love the lyrics for Love Technique,and her sales are better than I thought tbh

krauterol 27th January 2012 09:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bigtop (Post 2808989)
I'm kind of speculating that the lower-than-usual sales may be because some people are not aware that the release was actually pushed forward... Their minds still say 2/1, but the album is being released a week earlier to 1/25...

I'm sorry but I really doubt that this is the main reason for her actual lower sales :) I'm more with the idea of "japan is tired of her style, no matter if this time the overall of the album is better than the past ones, it's still the same formula".

splendid intro
a couple of rockish songs
a couple of cute songs
a couple of dance songs
a couple of r&b songs

And believe me, I really love JAPONESQUE, because this time, that formula is nice (So Nice hehe) 'cause the songs are good! But despite of that, the image is nearly the same as Secret was, and that doesn't produce a big impact in people anymore.

ilovekodaa 27th January 2012 09:38 PM

kumi doesn't deserve these sales )=!

Twinkle ! 27th January 2012 09:52 PM

Yes I love Kuu songs , maybe because i love everything she does , but she really has to change her style leaving the ero-kakkoi because it's not working anymore , And the jpop really changed by years it's not like it what used to be , and most of successful artists in 2005 and backward aren't that popular now , so it's amazing that kuu still selling decently

Kuu has to change to the style that works in Japan and make it more Kuu-ish ! , I really hope that Kuu try to work on something new during her break .

Welurru 27th January 2012 10:27 PM

I'd be worried about her popularity if it got to the stage where she had to do Dejavu style hall tours.
Last year was an 'experiment' by her to be closer to fans ... and a load of dates had to be added, and even then I'm sure more could have easily sold.
She has a core fan base who'll buy the album and then go buy tour tickets and as she is with that fan base could still easily pull off a multi-date arena tour.

When it get's to the stage that she can't sell out a 1000 seat hall then I'd be worried with these 'losing popularity' theories.

Lee^ChaN 28th January 2012 12:12 AM

Well, yesterday's sales dropped to 5,460
around 75k in total..
I guess it'll be hard to reach 100k in the first week, except the the sales boost on the weekend.. o well, as long as her concerts are still in demand..

KuuXAyu-fan 28th January 2012 01:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee^ChaN (Post 2809079)
Well, yesterday's sales dropped to 5,460
around 75k in total..
I guess it'll be hard to reach 100k in the first week, except the the sales boost on the weekend.. o well, as long as her concerts are still in demand..

Are you sure? I thought those don't come out until tomorrow.

happiholic★ 28th January 2012 03:36 AM

Ayu and Kuu have formulas that they tend to sick to now and days. Back in the day they experimented more, but now that they've been around for a while I guess they have "found themselves". This could be because they are just getting old, or perhaps they know who they are and know their strong points. If they wanted to, or avex wanted to, they could re-market them in the vein of 'idols' like high selling AKB48 or something. Maybe Kuu will have a "comeback" too like Namie and do some sort of reinvention and become Best 1 & 2 era popular.

zellyx 28th January 2012 04:20 AM

Regardless of the formula, I'm loving JAPONESQUE.

Now my favorite Kuu album!!!

I always liked bits from all her albums but never a majority of songs like this album.. there are only 2 or 3 I'd skip or play less often. The album just runs so smoothly!!! And the production is wonderful!!

emi♡ 28th January 2012 05:07 AM

I love the kodas formula. I even love her concert formulas. You always know she has her specific sections, but you never know what shes gonna do....

waterballoon 28th January 2012 08:22 AM

I think Everyday is the only song I would skip on a regular basis

tenshi no hane 28th January 2012 10:18 AM

Yesasia finally shipped my copy~! :D

AyuHamasaki01 28th January 2012 10:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tenshi no hane (Post 2809218)
Yesasia finally shipped my copy~! :D

:hi5 Same for me~ Let's hope it'll arrive soon here in Holland :laugh

Corvina 28th January 2012 10:57 AM

Sales for today:
1 *7,567

Estimated total so far:
77,284

recochoku for today:

Chaku Uta full:
#58 Brave (#46)

Chaku Uta:
#50 Brave (#46)
#63 Boom Boom Boys (#51)
#80 Everyday (#56)
#81 Love Me Back (#71)

Videoclips:
#19 Boom Boom Boys (#12)
#46 Brave (#48)
#52 Love Me Back (#82)
#60 So Nice feat. Mr.Blistah (#41)
#76 V.I.P. feat. T-Pain (#49)
#78 Ai wo tomenaide (-)

Movies:
#11 Boom Boom Boys (#21)
#29 Everyday (#57)
#49 It's all Love (-)
#55 WON'T BE LONG (-)
#74 Cutie Honey (-)
#76 ESCALATE (#51)
#100 Aisho (-)

RBT:
#25 Brave (#12)
#50 Slow feat. Omarion (#39)
#51 Ai wo tomenaide (#66)
#57 Everyday (#49)
#58 Boom Boom Boys (#53)
#76 Love Me Back (-)
#84 No Man's Land (#73)

Koda Gumi Valentine's Day Goodies:
http://i44.tinypic.com/dn29oz.jpg

A set of heart shaped cup and saucer.
Price: ¥ 3,500 (tax included)
Ceramic material
Country of origin: Japan

Thanks to kumi-flash

Earth_maiden 28th January 2012 11:41 AM

^ That's so adorable!!! :love

AyuHamasaki01 28th January 2012 11:42 AM

Aw those Valentine goods are so cute~ I really like the cup.

tenshi no hane 28th January 2012 12:06 PM

Slow (translation)
Spoiler:
Slow

I wanna be with you slow slow...

Your idea of happiness is self-centered no no
What is important? Feelings and righteousness?
Or pride? No no
I want you to say “Come be my wifey”
You are a part of me, an irreplaceable part
You feel the same, don’t you?

“This is fine. No, not like that”
Don’t decide things like that on your own
The things you see
The things you feel
I want to watch them together with you

All the money and cars
Seeing you strain yourself
I don’t need those kinds of things
I wanna be with you
I want you to stay who you are
Don’t leave me behind
I wanna be with you slow slow...

I don’t need more than I have now
By loving you everyday is filled with love
And I’m happy, so why? why?
If you take hold of other things
Your mindset and the real you
Will cease to matter, won’t they?
It’s like hitting an invisible wall

You can’t buy kindness with money
You already have it, don’t you?
That person and this person too
The missing things...
Make my life complete

All the money and cars
Seeing you strain yourself
I don’t need those kinds of things
I wanna be with you
I want you to stay who you are
Don’t leave me behind
I wanna be with you slow slow...

It ain't trickin' 'cause I got it
Shoppin' down in Saint-Tropez
We flyin' G5 Comp
So we ain't gotta pay
Glad I brought you out
I know you like the finer things
You already shine, but imma make you bling
The next thing is dead stock designer coats
Later we'll be chillin' jet skis, yachts and boats
Paparazzi snappin' photos chasin' after me
But we'll be ditchin' they ass so it's just you and me
The only one I need, the only destiny
I wanna keep it real with you for eternity
I love you girl don't want to keep this on the low low
But **** the life if I gotta live it dowlow

I want it slow. Let’s take it slow
Let’s go and destroy the things that tear us apart

All the money and cars
Seeing you strain yourself
I don’t need those kinds of things
I wanna be with you
I want you to stay who you are
Don’t leave me behind
I wanna be with you slow slow...

I wanna be with you slow...

TITANIC 28th January 2012 12:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AyumiAi (Post 2808916)
I'm pretty sure it will manage to hit 100k, maybe not first week but eventually T_T

I should mention that she won't hit 100K within 1st week. definitely JAPONESQUE will see 100K+ but not within its 1st week

TeamAyu2004 28th January 2012 02:32 PM

thats totally sad!

Lee^ChaN 28th January 2012 03:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KuuXAyu-fan (Post 2809088)
Are you sure? I thought those don't come out until tomorrow.

Sorry, got mistaken.. read too fast XD

Argh.. I want that cup :scry *i haven't even bought the transparent glasses* boo...

AyuGAME 28th January 2012 03:20 PM

not doing good at chaku-uta chart as well...

GREVOL 28th January 2012 03:55 PM

It´s possible to buy the cup without being a Koda Gumi memeber?

Heavenly 28th January 2012 05:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tenshi no hane (Post 2809218)
Yesasia finally shipped my copy~! :D

Me too ! :D

ayu_ready? 28th January 2012 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AyuGAME (Post 2809293)
not doing good at chaku-uta chart as well...

really destructive! :(

to whoever said she needs a change, I partly agree. then I partly don't.

I like Kuu for whatever she is, no matter how she looks, and what she writes and wants to express or whether her songs are somehow outdated
I just love her personality, I love her independence, determination, and some really risky attitude. that's the aspects of Koda Kumi I do not want to change

for music, I think she could create her new style herself. her music has always been too westernalized, I believe, for both us and the Japanese. and look - there are so many Western composers. but I wish she'd keep some r&b electro & ballads but maybe work with japanese producers/musicians more, why not? maybe it will bring a bit of change?

Miliyah Kato sells more than Kuu, I love them both, but it seems a bit surprising.

the sales are dissapointing. I'm worried for Kuu

setsuka 28th January 2012 06:56 PM

I hope Kuu doesn't change,if she wanted to be a successful solo artist rn
she would have to sing ballad after ballad after ballad, like Kana,Miliyah and JUJU
they are nice but overall are a bit boring and safe

those cups are super cute,maybe Kuu can do a re-cut single to boost the sales when she comes back even though that is super rare

Pieces_of_SEVEN 28th January 2012 09:47 PM

♫ kikasete DJJJJJ ♫

My favorite part of BBB <3

Princess_Of_Roses 28th January 2012 10:46 PM

Ill put my POV on the declining sales etc.. not to be replied to or asking for more inputs just wanted to state my ideas :)
Spoiler:

I love Kuus music. If her sales are declining people may be getting bored of her... I have yet to get bored of her. So i know that cant be the only reason. I became a fan in 2005 and im still kicking. As I know some of you on here have been fans for awhile! I cant talk about how people react in Japan and surrounding areas. The big reason sales could be down is becuase of the internet. I mean sales are down everywhere because people just illegally download it. SO people wont buy it because they can go to any forum and just get the album for free,,and scans too (becuase people post them) I know people have been doing this for AGES! but its really taken off in the past years.

I think Kuu tries to give everyone something a little special in her albums. She really has music for almost anyone. So maybe people are just interested in her for certain types of music she does so they dont wanna waste money on buying an album for one song.. Ill buy it if its just one. I like owning it :)


Im not saying I love every every song from her but majority yes :) So I will still be here if shes starts releasing like american artist..an album every like 3 years haha! (im also buying everything ive missed in the past 4 years :) so im gonna be set till she gets back )

happiholic★ 29th January 2012 12:05 AM

I just want Kuu to be Kuu, Kuu to do Kuu and Kuu to make Kuu happy. I don't care if she sells 1 album if she doesn't care. If she's happy, I'm happy, whatever her style is. So long as she doesn't get her ass dropped.

Twinkle ! 29th January 2012 12:19 AM

Well i never wanted kuu to change her self for few more copies , I just see why don't she change what works there and make it Kuu-ish

Ayu_Love 29th January 2012 01:19 AM

I don't think Kuu should ever change herself, you should always be true to yourself. But I just think she should shake-it-up a little more! Such as maybe changing the way she usually produces her albums and singles, etc. I would love for her to do more in depth stories in her PVs like Love Me Back Album ver. and BBB PV's, like she used to do for 99% of her PV's in the past. I also hope she can style herself a bit more girly, even though I know she's going for the mature look, which I love, I kinda would like to see her do some younger girly stuff too? Which is why I love the styling in Lay Down PV and her curly hair in Love Technique PV, it made her look just as young as from the 2006 era. A good mix of both young and girly and sexy and mature!
Everybody's knows how much I love Kuu and she has been the only thing I listened to at one point, but I feel even for an artist you love, you shouldn't feel like you can't say some criticism if you feel it. Just because it's criticism doesn't mean you're being negative. I would love to be able to say these points that I think would help Kuu grow as an artist, and make her work even more awesome than it already is.

Ohe ohe oh! Shake-it-up tonight! :D Now I have an urge to go watch all of Kuu's old PV's.

do it again 29th January 2012 01:43 AM

she does get styled to look way less pretty than she could be. especially her hair. they make it do gross sometimes and it can make her look So Nice. obsessed with her hair in Lay Down and Ai wo Tomenaide.

hsienko 29th January 2012 02:49 AM

I think that all singers have periods in their careers that seem "stale" and predictable it's called a "rut" and everyone goes through one from time to time. I mean after all you can't be innovative all of the time. The album still did really good on the charts #1 probably for the week- so what if it didn't sell as much as the last or that the songs aren't doing good on the digital charts right now, lets just appreciate the new album and stop trying to find things to complain about plz.

KuuXAyu-fan 29th January 2012 03:52 AM

I think a lot of people's main concern is that they don't want Kuu to fall into the BoA/Crystal Kay/BENI/Ai Otsuka, etc category.

ALfromHELLSING 29th January 2012 04:40 AM

man these sales are depressing, bad, sad and whatever, but no good at all. it's seriously one of her best albums in her whole career.

got my copy from CD Japan a few days ago, listenin to the album non stop since than. ****ing amazing. I think it's gonna beat Kingdom for me. and it's my #2 fav al by Kumi.


ps: someone deserves a good slap for the weakest track on the album. Yes HIRO I'm looking at you with your Everyday. :shakehead

and who did this amazing photoshot? Kazuyoshi Shimomura. so u can't blame Ayu's duck face on him. this guy is a real pro.

emi♡ 29th January 2012 06:49 AM

Yeah, idk. When AKB started selling millions, I stopped caring about Japanese sales.

I think Im fine if koda went the way of Beni or something, she'd probably have a lot more input for many things.

And I dont think we can compare her to Miliyah, I think people forget that miliyah is an incredibly successful model...I never even thought about her as a singer first lol

I can see koda going the way of Ai Otsuka...people used to call her the next Ayu :/

Anyway, who knows what will happen. If this is the end, at least she went out totally awesomely lol, sales or no sales.

hsienko 29th January 2012 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KuuXAyu-fan (Post 2809491)
I think a lot of people's main concern is that they don't want Kuu to fall into the BoA/Crystal Kay/BENI/Ai Otsuka, etc category.

I don't think we really have to worry about that with Kuu. The examples you gave most of them made pretty generic music, had generic personalities, and their popularity died after a few years when people finally sick of them. Which Kuu is the complete opposite everyone loves her personality and her music (even though the last 2 albums were kinda bleh). I say if Kumi's popularity were to take a nose dive it would have taken it a long time ago because Namie was only around for like 5 years before her "unpopular" era began - I'm just using as an example. But even if I'm wrong and she does end up not being able to even the chart - it was a pretty good 12 years.

KuuXAyu-fan 29th January 2012 07:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emi♥ (Post 2809528)
Yeah, idk. When AKB started selling millions, I stopped caring about Japanese sales.

I think Im fine if koda went the way of Beni or something, she'd probably have a lot more input for many things.

And I dont think we can compare her to Miliyah, I think people forget that miliyah is an incredibly successful model...I never even thought about her as a singer first lol

I can see koda going the way of Ai Otsuka...people used to call her the next Ayu :/

Anyway, who knows what will happen. If this is the end, at least she went out totally awesomely lol, sales or no sales.

Oh god no. I don't really mind Kuu not selling amazingly I just don't want people to be calling her a has been and things like that. She's just too good for that imo. :(

Corvina 29th January 2012 10:16 AM

hsienko, I so agree with you.
I mean, what's this drama all about?
The last years her current album always sold less than the one before. So far JAPONEQSUE is doing the absolute same route.
With the exception of Namie, every female solo artist doesn't strike with her sales anymore. Miliyah Kato had some nice ones with her Best album, but her last single just sold 5k.
Kana Nishino still has good sales for her albums, but she had her peak in 2010 already and since then her sales are falling as well. And she's a fresh face for people.
Ayu sells less and less with every album as well. Though Kuu's falling faster, that's true and a pity.
To make it short - it's a trend for female solo artists, no matter how good they are.
Also last year not one album, not even from AKB48, Arashi or EXILE, was able to hit the million mark. And we all know how static the yearly single chart 2011 looked.
Yeah it is sad - but for the whole music market in Japan.
And nobody knows how it will end.

And for recochoku - actually the album songs are doing good compared to e.g. Dejavu's.
We don't know yet if Brave is able to go the same successful route like Aitakute last year.
But overall the album songs do better than last year.


Sales for today:
2 *7,407 倖田來未

Estimated total so far:
84,691

Minttulatte 29th January 2012 10:55 AM

I want to be a positive fan and believe Kuu will rise again someday. Maybe she has that Namie "unpopular era" but I think she might get back to the top one day. It would be so cool if female solo artists became amazingly popular. *__* I'd like to see the second peak of Ayu (it would've been too awesome to be her fan during 2000-2002) and Kuu~ 8D

ayu_ready? 29th January 2012 11:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KuuXAyu-fan (Post 2809491)
I think a lot of people's main concern is that they don't want Kuu to fall into the BoA/Crystal Kay/BENI/Ai Otsuka, etc category.

THIS

BoA had such a future laying in front of her, but suddenly she switched to boring ballads/repeptitive 294704837 millions of poppy songs. she got so boring and the quality of her music dropped hugely, followed by a huge drop in sales.
at the time everyone thought that she'd be the second Ayu too in terms of success, idk what happened but her hard work didn't really seem to pay off afterwards. the same goes with Ai, "second Ayu", whatever, but the hype with her passed a way too soon as well. :shakehead

so - no. I don't want Kuu to repeat this.

Quote:

Originally Posted by drdolce (Post 2809571)
I want to be a positive fan and believe Kuu will rise again someday. Maybe she has that Namie "unpopular era" but I think she might get back to the top one day. It would be so cool if female solo artists became amazingly popular. *__* I'd like to see the second peak of Ayu (it would've been too awesome to be her fan during 2000-2002) and Kuu~ 8D

Namie reinvented herself. that's her main plus. she changed composers, style, concept, music & everything to go with the fashion. but she also got some amazing music done. she had hip-hop and now she's just makes a good pop/electro. maybe her composers are the key, idk. or the management team

Ayu goes the same old path. that's very surprising to see, knowing how much versatile she was in the past. :thud

Kuu is amazing, and she has many styles, and I do not understand the sales at all. maybe it is really a sign that to make the people ineterested again she should change the music or something a bit to get that fresh feeling. on the other hand, I just can tell "this is Koda Kumi style', she does have her own style....

tenshi no hane 29th January 2012 11:05 AM

More translations~

All for you (translation)
Spoiler:
All for you

With this song I want to show you
How happy I am to have met you
You never stopped holding my hand

We experienced sadness and lots of happiness together
And from now on too...
All for you
All for you

I want to make one of your wishes come true
My feelings for you are more sincere than anyone else’s

Even if my voice will whither away one day
I want to continue singing this song

Oh my dearest
Smile
Oh my dearest

Oh my dearest
Don’t cry
Because your tears
Make me feel sad as well
I sing
I sing

Soon you’ll be fine without me
Don’t say such things, I suddenly think so

Oh to my dearest
I smile
Oh to my dearest

Oh to my dearest
I don’t cry
Because my tears surely
Make you feel sad as well
I sing
Yes, with a smile
I sing



So Nice feat. Mr.Blistah (translation)
Spoiler:
So Nice feat. Mr.Blistah

So nice
I like the way...

Don’t look at me like that
You look infatuated
But I’m out of your league, boy
Be careful not to get hurt

I’m feeling hot
Play with me
Make my body go hala hala
Beckon me more sexily

So nice, I like the way you want me
More more more
So nice, I like the way you call me
More, in my ear
So nice, I like the way you play me
More wildly
You hit the spot. It drives me crazy

Can you make me drop to my knees?
I need love
Baby, get the keys

Welcome to my dollhouse
It’s special
This is our private party, boy
Just me and you

So nice, I like the way you want me
More more more
So nice, I like the way you call me
More, in my ear
So nice, I like the way you play me
More wildly
You hit the spot. It drives me crazy

Almost dissolving the darkness
2 A.M. synchronized breaths
Good feelin’ 1000%
Dots to lines, no tricks
Neck, further, more
Midnight’s sun burns red
It’s like this, y’all
When everyone’s asleep, so deep
Caramel sweet seduction
Lips move up and down
Play around all you want
Hot and in ecstasy, so nice

So nice, I like the way you want me
More more more
So nice, I like the way you call me
More, in my ear
So nice, I like the way you play me
More wildly
You hit the spot. It drives me crazy (x2)

Corvina 29th January 2012 11:06 AM

Also debating about Kuu changing...
I think Kuu won’t change.
Why should she?
She doesn’t have to proove herself anymore and she said herself in an interview that she doesn’t care about sales anymore.
Also she found herself as an artist – her diversity in music is what she is, it shows her personality!
Maybe she will proove me wrong when she's coming back, but I do have the feeling she's absolutely happy now with her career and her private life.

Chiharo 29th January 2012 11:10 AM

@tenshi no hane, thank you so much for your effort!

Corvina 29th January 2012 11:17 AM

Yeah, thank you so much, tenshi!^^
Slow surprised me, those are some nice ones Kuu wrote.

Minttulatte 29th January 2012 11:24 AM

Yes, why should Kuu change? She's happy with the way she is. She's honest with herself and her music is "Koda Kumi". I don't think she really needs to change. Of course, after the eargasmic No Man's Land I wonder if she'll do a rock album one day, but she'd still be Kuu. :)

And thanks for the translations, tenshi. <3 All for you made me cry. It's so beautiful. ;___; <3

ALfromHELLSING 29th January 2012 11:26 AM

tenshi no hane thank u once again 4 the lyrics translation! u r amazing as always!

I love All for you lyrics, simply yet have very warm & kind feeling.

btw what is she saying in the intro? "for me" booklet doesn't say anything bout it.

Corvina 29th January 2012 11:34 AM

It's "follow me".

Heavenly 29th January 2012 12:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alucard from Hellsing (Post 2809503)

and who did this amazing photoshot? Kazuyoshi Shimomura. so u can't blame Ayu's duck face on him. this guy is a real pro.

:shakehead it's really weird IMO... With other models, Shimoko makes incredible shootings, but when it comes to Ayu, DISASTER (not always though) ! Maybe it's just Ayu... Maybe it's just Shimoko who can't "beautify" her like he does with others...

freedreamer 29th January 2012 12:05 PM

O wow..So Nice is so XXX hahahha!!
All for yu is gorgeous :)

Heavenly 29th January 2012 12:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by freedreamer (Post 2809601)
O wow..So Nice is so XXX hahahha!!
All for yu is gorgeous :)

I just read the lyrics.... Huh it's a song about ... b*l*o*w*j*o*b ?! O_o


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