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Corvina 29th March 2012 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tokyoxjapanxfan (Post 2843803)
Honestly, for an album that had no promotion and no (good) tie-ups (Peach John was only aired for one week...it was a limited commercial) it did good for a full album.

Wasn't the tie in for hbya a great one?
And with the (local) promotion she's doing now, the sales might stabilize.

relmy 29th March 2012 10:30 AM

July 1st is easily the best summer song, fairyland is amazing too. The rest just seem a bit rehash-y.

Am I the only one who thinks of INSPIRE as a summer song?

Jason 29th March 2012 11:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by relmy (Post 2843956)
Am I the only one who thinks of INSPIRE as a summer song?

I've never thought of INSPIRE as a summer song. It just doesnt feel as happy or as fun as her other summer singles.

The PV is kind of summer-ish, though. :P

SURREAL__RAINBOW 29th March 2012 11:14 AM

whaaaaa, I thought everyone had clear that INSPIRE is a summer song :laugh

I've always seen it that way :shrug

emi♡ 29th March 2012 11:26 AM

I think of it as one, but it's not like...a happier...or cuter summer song I guess. although I guess fairyland isnt "happy" or cute...idk.

PEARL 29th March 2012 11:50 AM

considering shes making public appearances now they might boost up her sales...

yamadashun 29th March 2012 12:00 PM

i dunno if this is mentioned before, that there are some similarities in between the 2 albums that broke the consecutive number 1 record, GUILTY and Party queen:

-both have the "-TY" as album title.
-both have leopard print
-both were outsold by an album with 4-digit number as title
-both have 14 tracks
-both have iTunes leak
added
-both have digital single before the album release
-both were released after ayu broke up with her boyfriend/husband

RayJason 29th March 2012 12:10 PM

Good find! that is so freaky!

SURREAL__RAINBOW 29th March 2012 12:13 PM

both had digital singles
both were after she broke up with her boyfriend/husband

kpause 29th March 2012 12:16 PM

I really think a sharp decline of album sales shows a signal that there's something wrong with the album. I'm not going to repeat the reasons as people in AHS have done it brilliantly. But the decrease in sales doesn't mean her career is over. She still can grab a position in the industry, like touring I think? Though I don't care about the sales I am hoping for her insane promotion she mentioned.

Honestly I have mixed feelings about the covers, but they don't matter at all (thinking of terrible NL), I love the lyrics in which ayu is genuinely confessing her agonies and solitude after her sudden divorce. "I'm a lonely QUEEN." This album deserves praise despite the moderate(I don't think "small" would suit with 100k) commercial success.

LONJJONG 29th March 2012 12:44 PM

I wonder how her next album will do...

bluegie 29th March 2012 12:49 PM

^Probly another cycle. If GUILTY is a premonition of PQ, probly we'll have a NL-type album, which I prefer over GUILTY :P.

And dun you guys remember that Boys & Girls was the very first summer song from ayu? :P

PS: Party Queen is back to no. 5 today :D.

ayumisrael 29th March 2012 01:00 PM

3rd Day
Position: #5

thanks, back to top 5 is even better than top 10. :)

#3 sold 9,400, I wonder if Party Queen did 6,000+ today.

SURREAL__RAINBOW 29th March 2012 01:04 PM

I most certainly hope so :D

Looking good :) Thanks for the update!

TeamAyu2004 29th March 2012 01:20 PM

thats cool, back in the top 5...
I really hope this album as a long shelf life.
the more interviews she does and spreads them out, I think the longer this will be in the top 10.

Jason 29th March 2012 01:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 2844010)
3rd Day
Position: #5

thanks, back to top 5 is even better than top 10. :)

#3 sold 9,400, I wonder if Party Queen did 6,000+ today.

I don't know if this has been asked before but; why don't Oricon show the sales for albums past the top 3?

Anyway, it's nice to see a chart boost. :)

AyUmIXx 29th March 2012 01:55 PM

YAY happy for ayu!
it's gonna back to snatch no. 2 again...or even better no. 1!
please~~~

inspire_rmx 29th March 2012 04:03 PM

glad to see that the album is back at no.5 again =)

relmy 29th March 2012 04:27 PM

I hate to be the downer, but it it NOT going to get #1 this week lol The album at #1 outsold PQ in A DAY.

...and the only connection between GUILTY and Party Queen in them being break up albums. I don't think that has anything to do with sales. GUILTY was the double week and PQ is lack of promotion and lack of interest.

I'm hesitant to say lack of promo even, because NO WAY would Avex have scheduled Acid Black Cherry on the same day if they thought Ayu would lose, I'm sure her marketing team are way more shocked than some people here.

Zeke. 29th March 2012 04:37 PM

I wonder if Ayu is pissed at them, lol. I mean, everyone says she doesn't care about sales but come on, you know it probably feels good to have that #1 album. Especially considering the darker place she is in right now, I'm sure it hits hard to think "wow, I'm only selling this much now. wow, I lost out to a fellow label mate..." etc.

Delicious n Bold 29th March 2012 04:39 PM

1. I find Inspire to be a year-round epic track. It feels summery but I listened to it all winter and it made my day just a bit more epic lol.

2. I hope Ayu releases something like Next Level. In all honesty, it's her not her best album but I LOVEEE it. Even the covers, believe it or not. The photoshopped tattoo thing doesn't bother me. Even the placement of tracks didn't bother me. Maybe it's because I love electronic songs as well as ballads to bits.

3. The comparison between GUILTY and Party Queen unfortunately suggests that people may not like leopard print. :(

AyuGAME 29th March 2012 04:54 PM

the promotion did works!!!
at least she ahead of ABC now...

sinfonietta 29th March 2012 05:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delicious n Bold (Post 2844072)
3. The comparison between GUILTY and Party Queen unfortunately suggests that people may not like leopard print. :(

I'm a total sucker for leopard print so I'm loving it on the CD covers. :heart

relmy 29th March 2012 05:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delicious n Bold (Post 2844072)
3. The comparison between GUILTY and Party Queen unfortunately suggests that people may not like leopard print. :(

and that when Duty was released, everybody LOVED leopard print.

and now only Ayu does :(

ExodusUK 29th March 2012 05:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke. (Post 2844071)
I wonder if Ayu is pissed at them, lol. I mean, everyone says she doesn't care about sales but come on, you know it probably feels good to have that #1 album. Especially considering the darker place she is in right now, I'm sure it hits hard to think "wow, I'm only selling this much now. wow, I lost out to a fellow label mate..." etc.

I think she must be...I remember she said during a RnRC interview that she'd love to have another million seller and big hit

Delicious n Bold 29th March 2012 06:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sinfonietta (Post 2844088)
I'm a total sucker for leopard print so I'm loving it on the CD covers. :heart

Same here, I love leopard print and that's why I also like Party Queen's covers. It's too bad that 2 of the 3 CDs that feature leopard print aren't as successful as ayu's other albums. I tend to notice that ayu gets serious when she wears her leopard print XD

Deep snow 29th March 2012 07:47 PM

Top 5 again. 'Tis a good day for humanity.

pimenta 29th March 2012 08:11 PM

I'm happy she's back to the top 5 <3

Kouyou 29th March 2012 08:26 PM

Some of my favorite Ayu albums are Duty, GUILTY, and Party Queen. It must be the leopard print. :)

sinfonietta 29th March 2012 08:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Becky (Post 2844159)
Some of my favorite Ayu albums are Duty, GUILTY, and Party Queen. It must be the leopard print. :)

Leopard print instantly ups the overall quality. and it's f'ing sexy

Kouyou 29th March 2012 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sinfonietta (Post 2844166)
Leopard print instantly ups the overall quality. and it's f'ing sexy

THIS. :yes

Delicious n Bold 29th March 2012 09:33 PM

I think that the SURREAL cover is the best usage of ayu's leopard print.
I mean, what's not fun about a sexy cat girl singing about her love?
The single cover also gives you this 'what-does-she-look-like-from-head-to-toe-in-that-get-up feel' while Duty and the SURREAL PV DVD(?) give it away:P It's just the sexy mystery of leopard print in SURREAL's case.

samt2910 29th March 2012 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ExodusUK (Post 2844096)
I think she must be...I remember she said during a RnRC interview that she'd love to have another million seller and big hit

it must be quite frustrating for her. i can tell she really did put a lot of effort into this album and then to see it not reach the top... it must be tough. especially because i don't think the lack of sales necessarily has anything to do with the music itself.

having said that, as a fan, i am still proud that it managed to get to #2 without any physical singles released beforehand.

Deep snow 29th March 2012 10:34 PM

Hm. I don't dislike leopard prints; I think they look great on SURREAL (because it's BW it's somehow more kickass for me), Duty and GUILTY, but on Party Queen it's an eyesore. Pink-yellow-brown leopard print don't...fit, methinks (neither do pink and yellow for me, so there you go).

jbrat2219 30th March 2012 01:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ExodusUK (Post 2844096)
I think she must be...I remember she said during a RnRC interview that she'd love to have another million seller and big hit

I'm pretty sure any artist would love that though lol.

NintendoHTF1242 30th March 2012 02:05 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by yamadashun (Post 2843983)
i dunno if this is mentioned before, that there are some similarities in between the 2 albums that broke the consecutive number 1 record, GUILTY and Party queen:

-both have the "-TY" as album title.
-both have leopard print
-both were outsold by an album with 4-digit number as title
-both have 14 tracks
-both have iTunes leak
added
-both have digital single before the album release
-both were released after ayu broke up with her boyfriend/husband

WOW! That's really freaky!

emi♡ 30th March 2012 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 2844246)
I'm pretty sure any artist would love that though lol.

she kinda HAS to say it as well.

I mean, if she goes around saying she doesn't care about sales and stuff...it's not really the best thing :/ It might be the truth, but idk it's a tad disrespectful lol


Anyway, I do think it's weird that Avex would release both of these albums on the same day, unless there was just, not another week to release :shrug

AyumiAi 30th March 2012 04:28 AM

At first I was sad about the fact that PQ only got to number 2 but honestly the album is so good that I coulnd't care less and am just enjoying it :)

KarenPang 30th March 2012 05:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emi♡ (Post 2844257)
she kinda HAS to say it as well.

I mean, if she goes around saying she doesn't care about sales and stuff...it's not really the best thing :/ It might be the truth, but idk it's a tad disrespectful lol


Anyway, I do think it's weird that Avex would release both of these albums on the same day, unless there was just, not another week to release :shrug

maybe avex underestimated & didn't expect ABC's 2012 to sell even better than ayumi ? :O

Don't forget , avex also released AAA's 1st B-side compilation Another Side of #AAABest on the same week as Party Queen & 2012 . AAA is obviously not a threat to ayumi in any single bit but I do think for ABC's case , it was a scenerio of underestimating how unusually well 2012 would overtake if not oversell Party Queen down the line

Let alone , the 1st week sales of 2012 has outsold the whole total sales of ABC's 2009 album Q.E.D. too :O

I still think that if Party Queen were to get released in April , it would have gotten #1 easily with 0 promotion since there're no big major artistes putting out albums next month , well not that I know of

TeamAyu2004 30th March 2012 05:44 AM

I think the reason why they did all three was because it was the end of the year from them...
So avex stocks when no matter what. And thats all they really care about, how much money they make.

Amuro_Ray 30th March 2012 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KarenPang (Post 2844318)
maybe avex underestimated & didn't expect ABC's 2012 to sell even better than ayumi ? :O

Don't forget , avex also released AAA's 1st B-side compilation Another Side of #AAABest on the same week as Party Queen & 2012 . AAA is obviously not a threat to ayumi in any single bit but I do think for ABC's case , it was a scenerio of underestimating how unusually well 2012 would overtake if not oversell Party Queen down the line

Let alone , the 1st week sales of 2012 has outsold the whole total sales of ABC's 2009 album Q.E.D. too :O

I still think that if Party Queen were to get released in April , it would have gotten #1 easily with 0 promotion since there're no big major artistes putting out albums next month , well not that I know of

if sold 1 week ahead, still can get #1 too.. dunno why Avex chose 21 mar..

Delicious n Bold 30th March 2012 06:02 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AyumiAi (Post 2844292)
At first I was sad about the fact that PQ only got to number 2 but honestly the album is so good that I coulnd't care less and am just enjoying it :)

This is basically how I feel now.
Who cares if people buy it or not, it only matters if you enjoy it.
The album is actually quite good.

On another note, I personally believe that Party Queen will be remembered as the underrated gem among Ayu's albums.

emi♡ 30th March 2012 06:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 2844320)
I think the reason why they did all three was because it was the end of the year from them...
So avex stocks when no matter what. And thats all they really care about, how much money they make.

thats what I was thinking...but I thought it was at the end of april so I thought maybe she still had time...guess not lol

KarenPang 30th March 2012 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 2844320)
I think the reason why they did all three was because it was the end of the year from them...
So avex stocks when no matter what. And thats all they really care about, how much money they make.

yeah someone mentioned about that before regarding the financial year end since in Japan , Japanese companies's financial year end is in March & not in Dec

I know that cos my mum's working in a Japanese bank so xD

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amuro_Ray (Post 2844332)
if sold 1 week ahead, still can get #1 too.. dunno why Avex chose 21 mar..

you mean Party Queen should have gotten released on 28th March ?

even if so , it doesn't stand a chance in getting #1 due to Kis-My-Ft2's debut album Kis-My-Ft . Their 1st day sales outsold Party Queen's 1st week sales X.X by close to 1.5 times of the sales Party Queen obtained D:

if Party Queen were to be released in March , somewhere in the beginning of March would have been feasible . I don't mind for it to get released in the same week as Akanishi Jin's JAPONICANA . Heck ayumi can kick Akanishi's butt for all I care :laugh & why not since JAPONICANA failed to get #1

DA1SUK1DAY01691 30th March 2012 10:07 AM

For an album without any lead physical singles, I have to say she did pretty damn well. Even the West likes to promote at least one song from a new album before it's released, but for her to go basically blind (I don't think HBYA's tie-up helped that much) and still land at least #2 with that big a gap between #2 and #3 is fine with me.

Of course as a fan I'm disappointed she debuted with a #2 when she normally has #1 secured within the first few days, but I'm still confident in her ability. She's still producing magical songs (such as Return Road), so not all is lost. :)

monochrome99 30th March 2012 11:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ExodusUK (Post 2844096)
I think she must be...I remember she said during a RnRC interview that she'd love to have another million seller and big hit

woah? really? can you give a link or the name of the interview because i can't imagine ayu saying that. Kinda shocked and sad for her.

It means that she does really care about results.

ayumisrael 30th March 2012 12:02 PM

3rd Day
Position: #5
Sales: 2,881
Total Sales: 107,282

4th Day
Position: #7

ALfromHELLSING 30th March 2012 12:52 PM

Man, I hope next album will have at least one physical single. I mean physical singles still do sell pretty decent. I'm sure Ayu can still sell more than 50k. I wonder if we r not getting 51th single 'cause avex/Ayu is afraid of breaking her singles streak.
Quote:

Originally Posted by yamadashun (Post 2843983)
i dunno if this is mentioned before, that there are some similarities in between the 2 albums that broke the consecutive number 1 record, GUILTY and Party queen:

-both have the "-TY" as album title.
-both have leopard print
-both were outsold by an album with 4-digit number as title
-both have 14 tracks
-both have iTunes leak
added
-both have digital single before the album release
-both were released after ayu broke up with her boyfriend/husband

-both have her with short blond hair on the cover.

AyumiAi 30th March 2012 01:52 PM

^honestly all they need to do is get Ayu some decent promotion and her getting another number 1 single is not that hard... T___T just get her to do lives and radio shows and performances and places.

SURREAL__RAINBOW 30th March 2012 02:00 PM

I actually just read some horrible comments made about PoM and her voice by some Japanese, they said things like, "not deteriorated enough to be told" (I'm pretty sure they referred to her voice :()

So at this point of time, I don't know if TV lives will actually benefit her or play against her :shrug

I'd love her to promote her album with TV lives, but they should be re-recorded so they can be edited or done again if she doesn't like them or something.

emi♡ 30th March 2012 02:18 PM

honestly, I didn't care that much for her vocals in PoM either...but...I didn't think they were THAT bad...

btw...did we have an opinion thread for it yet? I was gonna post my crazy ramblings...and I wanted to see what everyone else thought. I didn't bother watching the USTREAM, so this was my first time seeing it...

and wow at the setlist~~


Anyways...I think if she's going to do TV lives, she should do them the way like, Namie does them. With the loud backing tracks so she can dance or something at the same time.

er...maybe...idk. Maybe she should just stick to the interviews and stuff and not go on any of those music shows...

brener 30th March 2012 02:22 PM

150k becomes a far away dream..

TeamAyu2004 30th March 2012 03:18 PM

im still glad at what this album did with no singles and no lives or anything...
pretty darn good!

jewelbox 30th March 2012 03:30 PM

I don't blame (japanese people) for hating PoM vocals, she sounds SO different, and some songs I don't find pleasant to listen either. In some songs she's more like shouting than singing , and when she tries to sing with that soft voice she once had it doesn't sound the same. (comparison: Secret and HBYA)

*Petit* 30th March 2012 03:31 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alucard from Hellsing (Post 2844426)
Man, I hope next album will have at least one physical single. I mean physical singles still do sell pretty decent. I'm sure Ayu can still sell more than 50k. I wonder if we r not getting 51th single 'cause avex/Ayu is afraid of breaking her singles streak.

-both have her with short blond hair on the cover.

I would say with these album sales, releasing a single doesn't seem like such a bad idea. I know it was sort of a special case with the 50th single and all, but the singles leading up to Love Songs combines sold about as much as the album itself. I really want singles again as well. =)

SURREAL__RAINBOW 30th March 2012 03:33 PM

I think that in her next single she should make a pv for one song in Party Queen chosen by the fans :P I'd love a pv for reminds me or Tell me why *o*

~X2RADialbomber~ 31st March 2012 12:12 PM

She kinda deserved it... I don't think it was as great as some of her other albums have been, but that's just my personal opinion TBH :\

KarenPang 31st March 2012 12:21 PM

Party Queen stays put at #7

http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/d/2012-03-30/more/2/

ayumisrael 31st March 2012 12:30 PM

Thank you Karen :)

YUKARI 31st March 2012 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brener (Post 2844455)
150k becomes a far away dream..

saaaad it is :thud

Pieces_of_SEVEN 31st March 2012 05:26 PM

Whatever, the album rocks, and I'm over the sales now. Ayu will always be #1 for me.

TeamAyu2004 31st March 2012 05:44 PM

she still may get 150k...
sad...

Pieces_of_SEVEN 31st March 2012 05:49 PM

^^MAYBE, by the end. We'll see.

TeamAyu2004 31st March 2012 06:00 PM

^ Im hoping so anyways...
Next Im waiting for her new single (hopes for one soon!)

Pieces_of_SEVEN 31st March 2012 06:10 PM

^^SUMMER SINGLE PLEASEEEEE IN JULY!!

toniayu 31st March 2012 06:13 PM

^YES,YES,YES,YES!Awwwwwwwwwwww,i want a new hit D:

glitter. 31st March 2012 06:42 PM

I do care about sales, but I'm not too upset over Party Queen only reaching #2. There was pretty much zero promotion and she still sold almost 100,000 copies in a week. If she promotes her next album right - she'll get another #1 album hopefully.

Pieces_of_SEVEN 31st March 2012 06:46 PM

I'm salivating thinking about it. LOL

microphone 31st March 2012 07:22 PM

Something like "blossom" would be fabulous. :D

Delicious n Bold 31st March 2012 07:30 PM

I'd really like another "fierce" song like INSPIRE :P

Pieces_of_SEVEN 31st March 2012 07:40 PM

^^BOOOO hell no to blossom, but hell YESSSS to INSPIRE!

ayumisrael 1st April 2012 12:34 PM

6th Day
Position: #6

axmish87 1st April 2012 12:44 PM

The album went up!!
Go Party Queen :-D

Deep snow 1st April 2012 12:56 PM

I hope the sales will steady up and she'll be on the top 10 for, like, a couple or more weeks. Is that, and the possibility of her getting the number 1 spot, unlikely now?

TeamAyu2004 1st April 2012 04:20 PM

^ i dont think she will get number one... but I like the idea of staying in the top 10 for awhile!

Pieces_of_SEVEN 1st April 2012 04:51 PM

I guess it is possible though for this album to have longevity on the charts. Here's hoping!

Delicious n Bold 1st April 2012 08:59 PM

It'll probably sell 2k a week for a little while I think.

Pieces_of_SEVEN 1st April 2012 09:02 PM

Yeah, only around ~50k to make 150k total. I guess it's possible, with prayers and lots of longevity. lol

TeamAyu2004 1st April 2012 09:38 PM

if those interviews are spread out right, it might just make this album stay in the charts for awhile!

Pieces_of_SEVEN 1st April 2012 09:45 PM

^^Good point. If they strategize properly, it may have a chance...

TeamAyu2004 1st April 2012 10:22 PM

yeah... and maybe a live or two avex... lol

Pieces_of_SEVEN 1st April 2012 10:33 PM

^^Pshhh yeah right. Those bastards.

visionfactory 2nd April 2012 05:05 AM

I want a live but I can't imagine Ayu performing NaNaNa or Shake It on Music Station...

Pieces_of_SEVEN 2nd April 2012 05:06 AM

^^I think she would do Party queen or hbya. Possibly Return Road.

TeamAyu2004 2nd April 2012 05:21 AM

HBYR or party queen for sure...
she might even do NaNaNa because of Timmy.

Pieces_of_SEVEN 2nd April 2012 06:13 AM

^^I would be SO disappointed lol

Delicious n Bold 2nd April 2012 07:01 AM

I'd love to hear a live 'Letter' tbh

brener 2nd April 2012 11:18 AM

im thinking about +\-15k copies sold this week (=

KarenPang 2nd April 2012 12:45 PM

Yesterday's position for Party Queen - #7

http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/d/2012-04-01/more/2/

inspire_rmx 2nd April 2012 02:15 PM

i hope she will perform return road or hbya on music station

jewelbox 2nd April 2012 02:30 PM

^ Yes! RR please!

SURREAL__RAINBOW 2nd April 2012 02:32 PM

Maybe we should tell her to perform RR on MS through twitter lol

Elednist 2nd April 2012 04:00 PM

Tomorrow we'll see how has been that week, I think that the total sales will be like 115k for this week. I'm sure PQ will sell 150k

TeamAyu2004 2nd April 2012 05:04 PM

250 seems like a forgotten dream...
ohwell, if she sells another album this year combined she will get the 250!

sailorseraphim 2nd April 2012 10:12 PM

Well, at least it's not a huge letdown (chart-wise) like GUILTY was. I remember how crushed we all were when that hit #2

MissElin_ 2nd April 2012 10:36 PM

^Well GUILTY was different since it actually got #1 it's first week but because of holidays Oricon didn't start count it until week two and well, it got #2. And #2 for an Ayu album the second week is actually good so.

TeamAyu2004 2nd April 2012 11:28 PM

Too bad only official stuff counts.

ayumisrael 3rd April 2012 10:38 AM

2nd Week
Position: #6
Official Sales: 18,101
Official Total Sales: 115,792

SURREAL__RAINBOW 3rd April 2012 10:40 AM

Yay :) Expecting 125k soon!

Thanks for the update

toniayu 3rd April 2012 10:41 AM

Well,i hope it sells 150k at the end...Thanks for the update!


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