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RayJason 14th July 2012 10:23 AM

^^ MTE.

When I heard it yesterday I thought she was pulling a Rebecca Black on us by going;

Friday nite <Japanese language> comes after thursday
Saturday nite <Japanese language> comes after friday

etc. I still find it kinda tacky and awkward though, especially how she pronounces the English words (and how they wrote "night" as "nite"). It sounds so forced. I wonder if Timmy helped her pronunciation. :/ Though her vocals still sound superb nevertheless. :)

primavera♥ 14th July 2012 10:57 AM

I don't mind the English much since honestly ayu's english usually just doesn't sound the best in her songs since she started using it in RAINBOW. So I think I'm good with the awkward sound.

ever_free 14th July 2012 11:02 AM

totally agree.... sounded very dated, even with all the arrangements. It feels something is wrong with this song, they should edit and do away all her vibratos at the end of the phrases. I love trance but the trance in this song is terrible.

elvesword 14th July 2012 01:45 PM

I think this one is not bad at all, I love it :)

Earth_maiden 14th July 2012 03:42 PM

LOVE IT. So much. More of this kinda music please, Ayu. :yes

SpiceSquad! 14th July 2012 03:54 PM

not baddd... now.. just DONT disappoint us with cheessy video, give us something wild! creative! and big budget video! :thud

Dustie 14th July 2012 10:58 PM

Considering how most of Ayu's material from the past 3 years has been pretty much repetitive and forgetable, this track is at least catchy enough to stuck in an average listener's head and stay there for a while, which is exactly what they're aiming for before releasing a 'best' album. Sounds indeed like signature TK arrangement, the lyrics are simple and catchy, accurate for summer, vanilla kind of pop.

DogboyShugo 15th July 2012 12:20 AM

It's not a WOW song but it's not TERRIBLE either. It's catchy. Sounds good. No complaints

pepper 16th July 2012 08:25 AM

I don't like the song (music) - it's too western, it's very popular trance in US (Rihanna much)doesn't fit for her vocal and I just don't like that music. It reminds me of "We found love" which I like when they play the song on the club or sth, but I don't listen to that music at home. Without the "western music" it may be just another Glitter/BLUE BIRD song which I never was fan of tbh. I started to like them after very long time from realese. AND I HATE THE english parts. She just can't sound nothing but FUNNY. She sound ridicolous when she sings in english but it sound cute when the song fits (ESM) or the lyrics are easy (Tell me why) But she can't say "friday" without making me facepalming, I'm sorry ;_;
The song itself could be just "an another ok medium bubblegum song" but the "rihanna-music-like" ruins for me. I hope she will never-ever do that song again, but I'm very afraid she wants to be more western. I don't like the direction she is going to, but she never was a "one-type" musician, so I hope for more "JAPANESE" than "AMERICAN" music.

I like her look in the video, she looks nothing but natural, but she is gorgeous in it, especially with long wet hair, she looks definitely amazing. But I don't like cheesy beach love story PV's :P

I don't want to be seen as a hater, I never was with Ayu, I really liked the cover for SUMMER BEST, I enjoyed PQ very much, I just hate when she is going to be "like somebody in America" and I just don't like that type of music because we have a lot of song like this in West... I have one Ayu and I want japanese Ayu.

Andrenekoi 16th July 2012 09:18 AM

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Originally Posted by pepper (Post 2884471)
I don't like the song (music) - it's too western, it's very popular trance in US (Rihanna much)doesn't fit for her vocal and I just don't like that music. It reminds me of "We found love" which I like when they play the song on the club or sth, but I don't listen to that music at home. Without the "western music" it may be just another Glitter/BLUE BIRD song which I never was fan of tbh. I started to like them after very long time from realese. AND I HATE THE english parts. She just can't sound nothing but FUNNY. She sound ridicolous when she sings in english but it sound cute when the song fits (ESM) or the lyrics are easy (Tell me why) But she can't say "friday" without making me facepalming, I'm sorry ;_;
The song itself could be just "an another ok medium bubblegum song" but the "rihanna-music-like" ruins for me. I hope she will never-ever do that song again, but I'm very afraid she wants to be more western. I don't like the direction she is going to, but she never was a "one-type" musician, so I hope for more "JAPANESE" than "AMERICAN" music.

I like her look in the video, she looks nothing but natural, but she is gorgeous in it, especially with long wet hair, she looks definitely amazing. But I don't like cheesy beach love story PV's :P

I don't want to be seen as a hater, I never was with Ayu, I really liked the cover for SUMMER BEST, I enjoyed PQ very much, I just hate when she is going to be "like somebody in America" and I just don't like that type of music because we have a lot of song like this in West... I have one Ayu and I want japanese Ayu.

Don't be so dramatic, it's just one song xD

And it sounds far more 90s generic jpop than western pop...

perfectodub 16th July 2012 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 2884476)
Don't be so dramatic, it's just one song xD

And it sounds far more 90s generic jpop than western pop...

x2
the perfect 90s TRF wannabe song ...and i love it

pepper 16th July 2012 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 2884476)
Don't be so dramatic, it's just one song xD

And it sounds far more 90s generic jpop than western pop...

Naah, I just don't dig the trance elements cause they reminds me of Rihanna, but the rest is as I said, just another "bubblegum" song :) I don't hate it, I just know I will never listen to it or sth~

PoetGirl 16th July 2012 11:48 AM

it reminded me on Rihanna WFL too but only because it was huge hit this year, not cause rihanna made that sound. I honestly am happy for it since its a big tune. And I find her english always super cute.

Andrenekoi 16th July 2012 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by perfectodub (Post 2884478)
x2
the perfect 90s TRF wannabe song ...and i love it

Well, this is the TK magic xD

Also, to people saying they wanted Ayu to do something more Namie-ish, it probably won't get closer than that xD~~

TeamAyu2004 16th July 2012 08:01 PM

been listening to this for so long and still love it!

emi♡ 16th July 2012 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 2884593)
Also, to people saying they wanted Ayu to do something more Namie-ish, it probably won't get closer than that xD~~

ew gross lol

that's like saying I want Koda's Got to be Real sound from Ayu.

People be crazy :P

Delicious n Bold 16th July 2012 08:27 PM

I think I've given up on the song. The chorus is still good, but I honestly like nothing else. Oh well, I know I'll go crazy for a HQ rip for sure.

Isicio 16th July 2012 08:51 PM

good music like 'we found love' but horrible melody, who composed this? ¬¬

AyUmIXx 17th July 2012 12:31 PM

^ tetsuya komuro did =))

Isicio 17th July 2012 03:15 PM

^ Oh! thanks

mizuki-7 18th July 2012 02:06 PM

You & Me PV short version will be broadcasted tomorrow in spaceshowertv

http://www.spaceshowertv.com/search/...cgi?mu=0090905

yulio stevanus 18th July 2012 02:17 PM

WOWWW .. I LOVE THIS SONG !!!!!!!!!!!!!

primavera♥ 18th July 2012 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 2884593)
Well, this is the TK magic xD

Also, to people saying they wanted Ayu to do something more Namie-ish, it probably won't get closer than that xD~~

Lol who says these things??? We only need one Namie.

I'd rather not have ayu fall into that too.


I still don't wanna say too much about the song and this video. I really want the whole thing lol

TeamAyu2004 18th July 2012 04:47 PM

I wonder when will we be treated to the fun PV and song??

AyuWorld 18th July 2012 05:20 PM

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Originally Posted by primavera♥ (Post 2885424)
Lol who says these things??? We only need one Namie.

I'd rather not have ayu fall into that too.

and we only need Ayu to be Ayu , no need to copy Namie or else another drama... :innocent

Delicious n Bold 18th July 2012 06:52 PM

This song now makes me view A Song for XX (album) as a masterpiece. Oh, that felt good.
You & Me is a good song, but Ayu can do WAY better. Honestly, after thinking about it, the song is just bleah. The lyrics are nothing compared to some of the lyrics on A Song for XX album (seriously, who WOULD buy that album other than for the lyrics? I tell myself that, when I understand the lyrics, I will fall in love with the album). Kinda makes me sad, actually.

I initially viewed this song in a high regard, and that was because I was high on electro/techno/dance/disco crap. Now, I'm slowly moving back to Ayu and her angsty ways (which I love). It's all Angela Aki's fault. Ever since I listened to her new album, I've gone back to a more organic sound. Now looking at You & Me, it's really generic and nothing new. Now, I DO like songs that aren't exactly bringing anything new to the table AND I love old-sounding music (I'm a Tommy february6 fan and don't say her music doesn't sound like it comes from the 80s-90s). But this song kind of sounds like a dated reject that nobody loved.

*don't mind me being blunt, if I may come across as being blunt*
At this point in my life, I would say I am a genuine fan of Ayu. I was pumped for Party Queen and I was fanboying all over this song when it first came out. But this song just makes her look awful imo. That, and the covers. What happened to Ayu? Her lyrics (as shown in this song) sounds like she wrote them on the toilet! And that one verse... Oh god, why? The entirety of the lyrics sound like fairyland and BLUE BIRD had a reject baby or something. I'm not criticizing because I hate Ayu or something. I'm criticizing because I KNOW for a fact that she can make better. The masterpiece that is Memorial Address just side-eyes this release. Heck, almost every Ayu release (save for FIVE) side-eyes this. I even like the MOON covers more than the covers for A SUMMER BEST, and I despise the MOON covers. Even the (miss)understood CD only cover is laughing at the A SUMMER BEST covers.

I also like Tetsuya Komuro's music. Not a huge fan, but I like it. Songs like White Key (ami suzuki) and Namie's debut album are really nice. The majority of his compositions from Love songs are just amazing. I loved how Love songs sounded dated. It wasn't a bad thing and it worked in its favour. But this song... I don't even know what to say.

Just because you CAN, DOES NOT mean you SHOULD. Ayu, from someone who really loves your music and listens to it A LOT, you NEED to take a year off and listen to I am..., RAINBOW, Memorial Address, MY STORY, Secret, and even Loveppears over and over again. Those albums are infinitely better than Party Queen (as much as I like it) and this song. No matter how bumpy the road, I'll stay with you. But it doesn't mean I won't constructively criticize your work. I hope that Tales of Xillia song is good... Fast guitars remind me of evolution:)

RayJason 18th July 2012 07:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Delicious n Bold (Post 2885514)
This song now makes me view A Song for XX (album) as a masterpiece.

When you say that you view A Song for XX as masterpiece, I know that you actually hate the song :P. I agree with you I hope she delivers an epic track for ToX. I NEED evolution part 2, M part 2 or just a baby from those two.

Something like HEAVEN actually, but way more kickass. Though I highly doubt she'll ever reach that level again.

Andrenekoi 18th July 2012 08:11 PM

Oh please, don't let her release ANYTHING part 2, not even my favorite songs!

TeamAyu2004 18th July 2012 08:36 PM

LOL.. viewing A song for XX as a master piece.
This song is NOT that bad.

And it is different from what Ayumi has done before. I dont think anything in her disco sounds anything like this.
Love the new song and hope her next album is filled with just as much techno infused crap! (this is good by the way).

Plus, I hope everyone does realize that the english lyrics are supposed to be plain and SIMPLE. it's not for western fans. Its for asian/none-speaking english fans.
So it as to be AS SIMPLE as POSSIBLE. so the everyday person can understand what she is saying.

RayJason 18th July 2012 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 2885546)
Oh please, don't let her release ANYTHING part 2, not even my favorite songs!

Why not? :( I'd like her to see getting back to what she used to do!

primavera♥ 18th July 2012 10:38 PM

Lol I think if ayu made a part 2 to anything and tried to incorporate that original sound, people would just be disappointed. I doubt that will make anything better. That's just how I feel though :)

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Originally Posted by Delicious n Bold (Post 2885514)

Spoiler:
This song now makes me view A Song for XX (album) as a masterpiece. Oh, that felt good.
You & Me is a good song, but Ayu can do WAY better. Honestly, after thinking about it, the song is just bleah. The lyrics are nothing compared to some of the lyrics on A Song for XX album (seriously, who WOULD buy that album other than for the lyrics? I tell myself that, when I understand the lyrics, I will fall in love with the album). Kinda makes me sad, actually.

I initially viewed this song in a high regard, and that was because I was high on electro/techno/dance/disco crap. Now, I'm slowly moving back to Ayu and her angsty ways (which I love). It's all Angela Aki's fault. Ever since I listened to her new album, I've gone back to a more organic sound. Now looking at You & Me, it's really generic and nothing new. Now, I DO like songs that aren't exactly bringing anything new to the table AND I love old-sounding music (I'm a Tommy february6 fan and don't say her music doesn't sound like it comes from the 80s-90s). But this song kind of sounds like a dated reject that nobody loved.

*don't mind me being blunt, if I may come across as being blunt*
At this point in my life, I would say I am a genuine fan of Ayu. I was pumped for Party Queen and I was fanboying all over this song when it first came out. But this song just makes her look awful imo. That, and the covers. What happened to Ayu? Her lyrics (as shown in this song) sounds like she wrote them on the toilet! And that one verse... Oh god, why? The entirety of the lyrics sound like fairyland and BLUE BIRD had a reject baby or something. I'm not criticizing because I hate Ayu or something. I'm criticizing because I KNOW for a fact that she can make better. The masterpiece that is Memorial Address just side-eyes this release. Heck, almost every Ayu release (save for FIVE) side-eyes this. I even like the MOON covers more than the covers for A SUMMER BEST, and I despise the MOON covers. Even the (miss)understood CD only cover is laughing at the A SUMMER BEST covers.

I also like Tetsuya Komuro's music. Not a huge fan, but I like it. Songs like White Key (ami suzuki) and Namie's debut album are really nice. The majority of his compositions from Love songs are just amazing. I loved how Love songs sounded dated. It wasn't a bad thing and it worked in its favour. But this song... I don't even know what to say.

Just because you CAN, DOES NOT mean you SHOULD. Ayu, from someone who really loves your music and listens to it A LOT, you NEED to take a year off and listen to I am..., RAINBOW, Memorial Address, MY STORY, Secret, and even Loveppears over and over again. Those albums are infinitely better than Party Queen (as much as I like it) and this song. No matter how bumpy the road, I'll stay with you. But it doesn't mean I won't constructively criticize your work. I hope that Tales of Xillia song is good... Fast guitars remind me of evolution:)

Someone's had an epiphany regarding their fandom?

Anyway, as much as people say that, I personally don't think anyone can know for sure that ayu can do better. Especially since "better" is just what appeals to one's subjective taste and what not. But that's also okay to me since people get over disappointment.

And idk how the lyrics make an album worth buying. "Music" can be wonderful without good lyrics but good lyrics don't make good music imo. For me, good lyrics are something extra and very very nice. For me, music is one thing. Poetry and lyrics and such is another. Interesting how you feel that way about ASFXX though. Sorry if I overanalyzed what you said lol. I thought that was a great album, without You & Me proving it lol. :P

!Lawi! 18th July 2012 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 2885546)
Oh please, don't let her release ANYTHING part 2, not even my favorite songs!

I really agree with that ! I understand why people say they want [any song title] episode 2, but really, I don't want evolution 2 -though I've alwayshoped for a title like RE-volution or something like that ahahaha- because that song is perfect like that,but as a consequence has already been done ! Time to move on ! That's why I loved Party queen,and especially the next LOVE and E,S,M, as long as I see the "Ayu magic", I'm fine with new genres !

Delicious n Bold 19th July 2012 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by primavera♥ (Post 2885598)
And idk how the lyrics make an album worth buying. "Music" can be wonderful without good lyrics but good lyrics don't make good music imo. For me, good lyrics are something extra and very very nice. For me, music is one thing. Poetry and lyrics and such is another. Interesting how you feel that way about ASFXX though. Sorry if I overanalyzed what you said lol. I thought that was a great album, without You & Me proving it lol. :P

To be honest, I am not a huge fan of lyrics (except Ayu's). I just listen to the melody more than 90% of the time. With songs like HEAVEN and HANABI, they make me teary eyed because of the lyrics and melody. This song's lyrics (You & Me), I find them awful. In that case, I can't even listen to the song. The melody also has gotten to me... My friend and I argued about lyrics and their importance. He said he needs them, I said I don't. Whenever I listen to Japanese music, half the time I will never know the lyrics unless I look them up or I listen VERY carefully. Most of the time, I don't even care. Therefore, lyrics have no huge meaning for me (except as stated before). It's my fault for looking up the lyrics to this song. Upon seeing the translation and that awful verse, I just couldn't. Lyrics are also extra to me (except in extreme cases like HEAVEN and HANABI). Even the song feel the beat by Ami Suzuki is alright. She repeats the same line over and over like its out of style but its alright with me. All I can do now is huff and cling to Memorial Address like there's no tomorrow.

As for ASFXX, I'm not a big fan because Ayu just sounds like a dying shrew/hyena/cow/insert random animal here. 1.4 million people bought it anyway XD. I may... one day. I would rather buy a new copy, if anything. There are better sounding debut albums. But I know for a fact that they made the fact that Ayu wrote the lyrics a big deal. Many Japanese people still love A Song for XX (song) because it's so relatable. (personally, I listen to the A BALLADS version. the arrangement and Ayu's voice are tolerable). I only like the song Poker Face, but I've moved on from that song since I've discovered her entire discography.

Andrenekoi 19th July 2012 01:14 AM

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Originally Posted by RayJason (Post 2885590)
Why not? :( I'd like her to see getting back to what she used to do!

1st because I don't like artists that keep repeting themselves and re-releasing the "same" album over and over again. If she has 5 songs like M, M is not a special song anymore... It's like some of her generic ballads... what makes them (and anything) generic is the fact it was done over and over again... The most reused of ideas was creative once.

2nd because everytime Ayu actually repeats herself, a huge shitstorm happens here on the forum.

emi♡ 19th July 2012 02:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Delicious n Bold (Post 2885514)
I'm criticizing because I KNOW for a fact that she can make better.

Welcome to the party ;)

primavera♥ 19th July 2012 03:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Delicious n Bold (Post 2885615)
To be honest, I am not a huge fan of lyrics (except Ayu's). I just listen to the melody more than 90% of the time. With songs like HEAVEN and HANABI, they make me teary eyed because of the lyrics and melody. This song's lyrics (You & Me), I find them awful. In that case, I can't even listen to the song. The melody also has gotten to me... My friend and I argued about lyrics and their importance. He said he needs them, I said I don't. Whenever I listen to Japanese music, half the time I will never know the lyrics unless I look them up or I listen VERY carefully. Most of the time, I don't even care. Therefore, lyrics have no huge meaning for me (except as stated before). It's my fault for looking up the lyrics to this song. Upon seeing the translation and that awful verse, I just couldn't. Lyrics are also extra to me (except in extreme cases like HEAVEN and HANABI). Even the song feel the beat by Ami Suzuki is alright. She repeats the same line over and over like its out of style but its alright with me. All I can do now is huff and cling to Memorial Address like there's no tomorrow.

As for ASFXX, I'm not a big fan because Ayu just sounds like a dying shrew/hyena/cow/insert random animal here. 1.4 million people bought it anyway XD. I may... one day. I would rather buy a new copy, if anything. There are better sounding debut albums. But I know for a fact that they made the fact that Ayu wrote the lyrics a big deal. Many Japanese people still love A Song for XX (song) because it's so relatable. (personally, I listen to the A BALLADS version. the arrangement and Ayu's voice are tolerable). I only like the song Poker Face, but I've moved on from that song since I've discovered her entire discography.

So because you feel that you & me has awful lyrics you can't listen to it? But I understand the rest of what you're saying. I love ayus lyrics. These aren't the best. I love lyrics in general though and you don't. I think many other artists have good lyrics.

In regards to ASFXX I don't mind the voice as I've always found ayu's voice a bit strange and more difficult to listen to. Especially from ASFXX to I am... (For me)....it's funny though. Poker face is one of the ones that I don't care for as much lol. I love the A BALLADS version of ASFXX :heart but this is more ot lol sorry

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I don't have problems with you & me's lyrics though I undrstand people's issues with their simplicity I guess.

RayJason 19th July 2012 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 2885636)
1st because I don't like artists that keep repeting themselves and re-releasing the "same" album over and over again. If she has 5 songs like M, M is not a special song anymore... It's like some of her generic ballads... what makes them (and anything) generic is the fact it was done over and over again... The most reused of ideas was creative once.

2nd because everytime Ayu actually repeats herself, a huge shitstorm happens here on the forum.

I see!

I didn't really think about that but you're right. I kinda want something epic and I used "evolution part 2" to define epic lol. But on the other hand, those songs are so dated that if she just did one "version / part 2" of any song, we'd get a confirmation that she's still able to deliver the same sparkle. (I think her voice is perfect as of now, but the composition, arrangement and everything else is lacking, therefore not justifying ayu's singing imo). Though like you said, it'd make it generic. So there is no win for part 2's at all.

Actually I don't really care a lot for what a lot of people on this forum have to say about ayu's releases because; When she does the same (like you said) a huge shitstorm (I like how this word doesn't get hidden) happens, and when she does something new it's the same story. Though I have to admit that I participated the shitstorm when I heard Eyes, Smoke, Magic and the next LOVE.

Pieces_of_SEVEN 19th July 2012 06:12 AM

I just cannot stop listening to this song! I wonder how different the real version is going to be.

ExodusUK 19th July 2012 06:22 AM

O/T but why are comments enabled on the HBYA video on Ayu's channels? Is it a mistake?

jang-kun 19th July 2012 08:53 AM

^FYI all the Party Queen videos have their comments enabled actually, reason is avex made a last-minute promo of uploading full versions of all the pv's with the thought that it MIGHT boost sales, lol slap on their faces none of them had reached 300k views yet :innocent

Pieces_of_SEVEN 19th July 2012 11:50 AM

^^I blame avex for that. I'm starting to really hate them.

Delicious n Bold 19th July 2012 04:06 PM

^ Why do you think so (starting to hate Avex), Pieces_of_SEVEN?

TeamAyu2004 19th July 2012 04:41 PM

avex has been handling Ayumi career very bad;y the [ast view years...
Im not happy with it, either.

YUKARI 19th July 2012 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by jang-kun (Post 2885761)
^FYI all the Party Queen videos have their comments enabled actually, reason is avex made a last-minute promo of uploading full versions of all the pv's with the thought that it MIGHT boost sales, lol slap on their faces none of them had reached 300k views yet :innocent

yeah, that's really sad. I was surprised to see they are only about 180k or so.

ExodusUK 19th July 2012 04:46 PM

Ayu is to blame too, i'm sure a lot of it has with her not wanting to do things and preferring to tour for the majority of the year (touring is a lot more financial beneficial for ayu than it is for avex).

mizuki-7 19th July 2012 04:52 PM

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slap on their faces none of them had reached 300k views yet
Yes... lol at least YOU & Me in 3 days have nearly 300 k view

Corvina 20th July 2012 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by primavera♥ (Post 2885598)
And idk how the lyrics make an album worth buying. "Music" can be wonderful without good lyrics but good lyrics don't make good music imo. For me, good lyrics are something extra and very very nice. For me, music is one thing. Poetry and lyrics and such is another.

I think the same.
Music and vocals are important to me, good lyrics are just a plus.
Bad lyrics can destroy a song, but they have to be really bad to get me to this point. On the other hand good lyrics can't save a bad song for me.
Normally with Ayu the songs I love have both - and the songs I dislike are missing both for me. :laugh
Just like with You & Me, I don't care much for the song and the lyrics.

Pieces_of_SEVEN 20th July 2012 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ExodusUK (Post 2886078)
Ayu is to blame too, i'm sure a lot of it has with her not wanting to do things and preferring to tour for the majority of the year (touring is a lot more financial beneficial for ayu than it is for avex).

I don't think so, it's not like she has to participate in any promotion. Just put her face everywhere, sample the song everywhere, have those ayu trucks drive around, do a CM, etc.

RayJason 20th July 2012 04:43 PM

Oh gosh it seems that the anti-ayu fans have united and spammed the dislike button on "You & Me". :(

Pieces_of_SEVEN 20th July 2012 05:32 PM

^^Well screw them. I think it's gold.

jbrat2219 20th July 2012 05:38 PM

I've grown to really like the song!

Pieces_of_SEVEN 20th July 2012 05:50 PM

^^I'm addicted. SO curious how the full version is going to sound

jang-kun 21st July 2012 02:34 AM

Is it just me or is Y&M really good that it almost reached 360k views in just 6 days? Imo that's very phenomenal for a SHORT VERSION Ayu vid lol.

jang-kun 21st July 2012 02:39 AM

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Originally Posted by YUKARI (Post 2886075)
yeah, that's really sad. I was surprised to see they are only about 180k or so.

proves that PQ is Ayu's weakest release, promo-wise and PV-wise. to think they were uploaded in full for i dunno, 3-5 days? they should have at least 200k views minimum for each :shrug

makes me think FIVE pvs are gold :innocent

kinix 21st July 2012 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jang-kun (Post 2885761)
^FYI all the Party Queen videos have their comments enabled actually, reason is avex made a last-minute promo of uploading full versions of all the pv's with the thought that it MIGHT boost sales, lol slap on their faces none of them had reached 300k views yet :innocent

Those Full versions PV were removed and those that remained on youtube were the short version. I'm pretty sure that combined, the views were @ least 300k.

jang-kun 21st July 2012 05:08 PM

^Were they removed, and replaced? I dunno hahaha


lol but progress short pv alone puts all of pq pvs into shame 1.6 million views k :laugh

Andrenekoi 21st July 2012 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jang-kun (Post 2886957)
^Were they removed, and replaced? I dunno hahaha


lol but progress short pv alone puts all of pq pvs into shame 1.6 million views k :laugh

They were removed... The channel had both the full versions and short versions at that time.

Queen Bee 21st July 2012 07:47 PM

I personally think they should have left the full versions of the PVs up but whatever. Also if I'm not mistaken the full versions of the Party Queen PVs did have over 300,000 views

jang-kun 21st July 2012 08:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Queen Bee (Post 2887016)
I personally think they should have left the full versions of the PVs up but whatever. Also if I'm not mistaken the full versions of the Party Queen PVs did have over 300,000 views

I see... I thought they just undid the whole full version stuff and bring it back to short ones, hence the enabled comments :dead2

oh well. whatever. good for PQ then :)

but now ASB :thud

SURREAL__RAINBOW 22nd July 2012 04:11 AM



Almost 400k views :D Awesome

jang-kun 22nd July 2012 04:38 AM

^Amazing, I know! We can say the Japanese really love this.

Linza-mo 22nd July 2012 10:36 AM

I don't realize, is it so much for a PV only released on youtube in one week ? '__'

truehappiness 22nd July 2012 10:45 AM

Well, if you look at the short versions for the Party Queen PVs, they're all pretty much around 150k, but they had the full versions up for a very short amount of time...

It's still pretty good for Ayu's channel. At this rate, it might get to a million!

SURREAL__RAINBOW 22nd July 2012 10:52 AM

Her singles from 2010 all have over 1 million views (MOON almost 2 million, Virgin Road and crossroad) I think that Youtube is a great way to promote her new releases, specially singles.

Since this is just one song too it's getting all the attention it deserves, which is awesome. 400k and counting, great numbers for 1 week I think. Keep on watching it! ^^

The full versions of the PQ pvs are still in the channel but they're in private.

Most of the thumbs down in You & Me I'm sure are by many people between here, last.fm and fans from other singers who are trying to pull ayu down :P

jang-kun 22nd July 2012 01:06 PM

I smell 600-700k by the time of release + another 400k post-ASB. We can get 1 million views in three months maybe. :)

And that's quite phenomenal for an Ayu pv nowadays, imo.

SURREAL__RAINBOW 22nd July 2012 01:25 PM

over 406k already lol it moves fast XD

ayu_ready? 22nd July 2012 06:51 PM

I got used to seeing 2NE1 & BIG BANG getting like 1 million views for less than a day and then getting over 10 million views for less than a month. after that, 400k from Queen Ayu doesn't seem like anything extraordinary, or, to say more, revolutionary.

brener 22nd July 2012 07:40 PM

^
yeah..




btw idk if someone has already said this but this video and songs concept rly looks like We Found Love by Rihanna..

primavera♥ 22nd July 2012 08:45 PM

Yes, brener, many people have said that about certain parts of the song and video, as if those things have never appeared or have been heard anywhere else before. But apparently, the We Found Love comparison is relevant to some people.

henrique 23rd July 2012 04:41 PM

400k its good but not exceptional....

BoA´s new PV "Only One" as almost 1 million in 24hours

truehappiness 23rd July 2012 07:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by henrique (Post 2887658)
400k its good but not exceptional....

BoA´s new PV "Only One" as almost 1 million in 24hours

I think that case is rather different, since Korea essentially forces their videos on fans as much as possible and they also tend to be posted in 1080p among other factors. (she's also been on a bit of a hiatus)

It tends to be a bit slower for Japanese acts to get views unless you're AKB or Kyary Pamyu Pamyu.

ayu_ready? 23rd July 2012 07:36 PM

^ but it does indicate interest,I think :) I think it's good means of promo too, in this digital age :)

Quote:

Originally Posted by henrique (Post 2887658)
400k its good but not exceptional....

BoA´s new PV "Only One" as almost 1 million in 24hours

oh WOW

Rurutia 26th July 2012 07:41 PM

i only the chorus

don't like the beginning, the verse, the english, the chanting.

god....come on ayu, it's been so long since I have been impressed with you.

NO! I WILL NOT LOSE INTEREST!!!! (talking to myself)

Rurutia 26th July 2012 09:16 PM

we really are in an "Ayu Depression" aren't we?

jang-kun 27th July 2012 01:43 AM

^Hello, BRILLANTE? That's like a masterpiece in the form of "no man can do this." I agree with you PQ era, but during FIVE even the covers are godly (although only two songs from that album can do justice to a no-single year).

Rurutia 27th July 2012 02:13 AM

Brillante was a nice song, but by no means do I consider it a master piece, I didn't really care for the chorus and the verse sounded off to me melodically in some parts.

SURREAL__RAINBOW 27th July 2012 02:32 AM

BoA is just in time to revive her Kpop career, so yeah.


You & Me has almost as many views as Boys & Girls which was uploaded 2 years ago lol So referring to ayu's channel only, it's pretty good.

AVEX is just starting to realize the power of Youtube, in ayu's case anyway. Still, not uploading the entire thing isn't gonna help. They'll never get as many views as the Kpop groups, plus, we get DVDs with our Japanese releases, and most Kpop releases don't come with the pvs or mvs.

AyuGAME 27th July 2012 05:47 AM

515k and counting...hoping for million viewers...

brener 27th July 2012 10:29 AM

is "M" the only video which reached 1 million views on YT?

SURREAL__RAINBOW 27th July 2012 10:36 AM

No. As I said earlier, all her singles in 2010 have over 1m views, they got great attention back then. Plus the big promotional tracks from RnRC, Love songs, FIVE, and the big classics (M, BLUE BIRD). I'm not sure why Don't look back has so many views :P Great pv of course.

#1 MOON - 1,914,891 views
#2 progress - 1,610,092 views
#3 M - 1,553,801 views
#4 Virgin Road - 1,421,662 views
#5 Love song - 1,405,152 views
#6 crossroad - 1,383,189 views
#7 HEAVEN - 1,336,795 views
#8 Microphone - 1,182,346 views
#9 Don't look back - 889,410 views
#10 BLUE BIRD - 862,027 views

AyuWorld 27th July 2012 11:22 AM

^

Blue Bird PV should get 1M views! :thud

i thought Love Songs PVs get so many attention because of... :innocent

brener 27th July 2012 07:35 PM

thats great!! thanks for postin this

stepho_chan 28th July 2012 07:50 PM

reminds me of Rihanna's we found love.

jang-kun 29th July 2012 03:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SURREAL__RAINBOW (Post 2888996)
No. As I said earlier, all her singles in 2010 have over 1m views, they got great attention back then. Plus the big promotional tracks from RnRC, Love songs, FIVE, and the big classics (M, BLUE BIRD). I'm not sure why Don't look back has so many views :P Great pv of course.

#1 MOON - 1,914,891 views
#2 progress - 1,610,092 views
#3 M - 1,553,801 views
#4 Virgin Road - 1,421,662 views
#5 Love song - 1,405,152 views
#6 crossroad - 1,383,189 views
#7 HEAVEN - 1,336,795 views
#8 Microphone - 1,182,346 views
#9 Don't look back - 889,410 views
#10 BLUE BIRD - 862,027 views

Why is MOON so viral anyway?

PoetGirl 29th July 2012 03:33 AM

um because its a flawless song

truehappiness 29th July 2012 03:48 AM

She also looked super gorgeous in the PV. I think it may have been one of the first instances of a new PV on YouTube at the time?

Queen Bee 29th July 2012 03:50 AM

^I think you're right. Wasn't it also the first PV to start the short versions?

AyuWorld 29th July 2012 04:00 AM

^

yes! thats true and people were so curious of what the ending would be,Ayu going to kill herself? whats goin on with the dark ink pouring on her?? yeah had great time guessing that time haha xD

SURREAL__RAINBOW 29th July 2012 03:02 PM

Going through the videos, I found that Lady Dynamite's demographics go something like this:

Top demographics

Male, 45-54 years
Female, 13-17 years
Male, 35-44 years


:thud LOL



You & Me has already 556,922 views, more than Boys & Girls :love

Zeke. 29th July 2012 06:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by PoetGirl (Post 2889460)
um because its a flawless song

I enjoy the song now very much so but I can admit it does have a flaws (that I eventually got over - needless to say, it is not perfect regardless of how I feel about the song now).

mizuki-7 31st July 2012 01:14 AM

In Yahoo Japan via Gyao ! You & Me has already 1, 490, 452 view and the PV is currently number 1 of Ranking of music videos ^^

http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/623039b20He.jpg
http://img11.hostingpics.net/pics/5398092OQJt.jpg

http://gyao.yahoo.co.jp/player/00071...ist_id=1679562
http://videotopics.yahoo.co.jp/ranki...fficial/music/

Cahz- 31st July 2012 05:09 AM

^^Get that promo Ayu! :banana1

Those are a lot of views :thud, it looks Japanese people really like the PV :cool
In my opinion it's the best summer Pv of Ayu. It describes perfectly how a perfect summer vacation day should be :lech

AyuWorld 31st July 2012 05:22 AM

^
^

woow! 1M in GyaO! now Ayu promote this!! but still noting big here jus next is the release,somehow i feel the same that the japanese love this PV

Delicious n Bold 31st July 2012 06:07 PM

My friend who sort of likes Ayu listened to the song today.
This was her reaction:
"Who listens to this kind of song? She should continue composing her songs. Why is she doing this. The music is too modern, you can find it anywhere. I thought her music was getting better."

Ouch is all I can say. I hope this song won't destroy her liking of Ayu. Guess I should have her listen to RAINBOW or something.

truehappiness 31st July 2012 09:47 PM

It's supposed to be a nice fun track. I don't think they were going for anything particularly other than that when it was being created.

Delicious n Bold 1st August 2012 12:24 AM

^ Which, from my experiences, is only appropriate for long time Ayu fans if they can stand the song.
I showed the song to a few other people who know of Ayu (because of me) and they all said they disliked it. Many of them were turned off by the video as well.
I know it is supposed to be a fun song with a fun video, but....

jewelbox 1st August 2012 12:30 AM

I have to agree with some of you here. It really sounds outdated. I really like the beginning, but the verses are really bad like a horrible 90's eurodance song.
I tried to like the song. I just can't. I won't even download it. :no
Maybe it will grown on me.. Idk.. I just can't lie to myself. I just don't like it

toniayu 3rd August 2012 08:55 PM

Where was the PV shot?Japan?

Bigtop 4th August 2012 02:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by toniayu (Post 2891062)
Where was the PV shot?Japan?

I think we may have earlier said that - Guam.

douggn 4th August 2012 02:38 PM

Since the album had a vote for best ayu summer songs, ASB is probably made for her fans with no real intention to draw any new fans, hence the song has no real appeal to people who don't love ayu's music


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