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AyuGAME 22nd April 2015 02:50 AM

Recochoku weekly album chart 4/15~4/21

A BEST stay on position 1 (CRAZY!)
A ONE down to position 14

pimenta 22nd April 2015 03:31 AM

40k in two weeks isn't bad at all :)

Bigtop 22nd April 2015 03:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AyuGAME (Post 3134739)
Recochoku weekly album chart 4/15~4/21

A BEST stay on position 1 (CRAZY!)
A ONE down to position 14

A BEST is really kicking Southern All Stars' ass - for such a 15-year-old best album! Also more than Ayaka's 'Rainbow Road'... :O

visionfactory 22nd April 2015 04:12 AM

Koda Kumi sold just 700 copies this week and her total is 46k!!

Ayu is just 6k away from Koda!! OMG :heart it's possible

hayasaki 22nd April 2015 04:28 AM

^i think it is!! The Tour will help it IMO but oh well, i
forgot Oricon doesn't count them all

brener 22nd April 2015 05:16 AM

I hope it sells around 3k this week

Sunrise 22nd April 2015 08:38 AM

I hope it can pass 45k!

holy_arrow 22nd April 2015 12:43 PM

It seems 50k is possible

visionfactory 22nd April 2015 06:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brener (Post 3134799)
I hope it sells around 3k this week

3k would be good :yes

TeddyGrahams 22nd April 2015 08:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by hayasaki (Post 3134787)
^i think it is!! The Tour will help it IMO but oh well, i
forgot Oricon doesn't count them all

It really annoys me that they only count it as 1/3rd of the sales. That's why the fall from guilty and NL was so high. It also annoys me that cdjapan and stuff doesn't count too, making all of my purchases felt somewhat invalidated. Yeah oh wells.

maxikot 22nd April 2015 08:53 PM

And that's a fact, oricon is not an objective source for numbers, it only gives general idea what's popular but just that. Unfortunately since it is throwing numbers people take it seriously.

TeddyGrahams 22nd April 2015 08:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maxikot (Post 3134998)
And that's a fact, oricon is not an objective source for numbers, it only gives general idea what's popular but just that. Unfortunately since it is throwing numbers people take it seriously.

Then they shouldn't be giving out awards out of their asses. Lol

hayasaki 22nd April 2015 10:03 PM

How much do you guys think would have A ONE sold so far (i mean the figures) if Oricon counted all!! as in everything?

Uknow! 22nd April 2015 10:06 PM

^I supposed more than 100k counting international sales too, but in a near future, not now.

attractive nausea 22nd April 2015 10:08 PM

^^ Damn i don't know, the playcount on the forum is only at 50+ or so copies :laugh

Andrenekoi 22nd April 2015 10:43 PM

Oricon doesn't count sales for fun or because they are bored, it's a way to define who is hot and who os marketable, and for being a good source of who is and isn't marketable they can't count sales shipped overseas, as those people aren't part of the Japanese market (in other words, you can't consider oversea sales to hire a popstar for a japanese only tie-in) and the venue sales are reduced because they were frequently faked by the labels.

They don't make money from stan wars, they make money from the companies that need those numbers...

melissalove 22nd April 2015 11:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by visionfactory (Post 3134775)
Koda Kumi sold just 700 copies this week and her total is 46k!!

Ayu is just 6k away from Koda!! OMG :heart it's possible

I sadly don't see the excitement.. Ayu and kuu are both getting low sales, one or two more copies aren't gonna make a difference between who's saleing more :no.

hayasaki 22nd April 2015 11:50 PM

I kinda miss those days when we were talking of hundreds of thousands of sales LOL

ayumisrael 23rd April 2015 01:01 AM

I just looked at A Song for xx's trajectory... lol, charted almost 3 years and sold quite a lot in a lot of weeks, and that was only when she started getting popular. Looking at LOVEppears, Duty and A BEST would be just crying out tears. =P

(But in reality these things are not important anymore).

visionfactory 23rd April 2015 02:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uknow! (Post 3135029)
^I supposed more than 100k counting international sales too, but in a near future, not now.

That's a bit too much, Colours didn't even sold more than 1,000 copies in Korea and Taiwan and both are jpop's biggest market after Japan

Uknow! 23rd April 2015 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by visionfactory (Post 3135099)
That's a bit too much, Colours didn't even sold more than 1,000 copies in Korea and Taiwan and both are jpop's biggest market after Japan

Yes, is possible she don't reach 100k, but 75-80k. A ONE have had better promotion overseas i think. In addition, there are a lot of occidental people who buy her cds but we don't know that they exist hahaha

If we count sales venues complete and rest of Asia, is it possible to reach 60k?

melissalove 23rd April 2015 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uknow! (Post 3135183)

If we count sales venues complete and rest of Asia, is it possible to reach 60k?

Just barely..

KarenPang 24th April 2015 12:53 PM

A ONE returned back to the Top 30 yesterday , at #26

http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/d/2015-04-23/p/3/

It was out of the top 30 the past 2 days

LONJJONG 24th April 2015 03:50 PM

It was #44 and #33 for the past 2 days.
And it's #1 on Taiwan G-Music chart & 5music chart ;)

orbitalaspect 24th April 2015 07:45 PM

Can't believe she's only 7k away from outselling Koda... Do you guys think it will happen this year?

Aderianu 24th April 2015 08:25 PM

still think A ONE will reach only 42k mark

//ABEST 24th April 2015 09:17 PM

this is sad

njanjayrp 24th April 2015 09:32 PM

TBH the only thing I care about is that this album has a couple of gems like Last minute, Out of control and NO FUTURE.

ayumisrael 24th April 2015 10:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LONJJONG (Post 3135412)
It was #44 and #33 for the past 2 days.
And it's #1 on Taiwan G-Music chart & 5music chart ;)

Thank you for these!
You can keep us updates (or share the source if where we can get these numbers) since I don't have a 30-50 source. =P

LONJJONG 25th April 2015 05:06 AM

@ayumisrael
You're welcome! It's usually updated in ayu baidu bar and oricon baidu bar if you could read Chinese :D

Baidu bar thread for A ONE Oricon chart: http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3687948551

Oricon baidu bar: http://tieba.baidu.com/f?ie=utf-8&kw=oricon
(The daily ranking thread 【日榜单】 is always at the top)

ayumisrael 25th April 2015 09:22 AM

^Thank you! Unfortunately I can't :P

KarenPang 25th April 2015 11:24 AM

3rd week , 5th day - #20

http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/d/2015-04-24/p/2/

KarenPang 26th April 2015 11:28 AM

3rd week , 6th day - #18

http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/d/2015-04-25/p/2/

attractive nausea 26th April 2015 11:37 AM

Good good.

KarenPang 27th April 2015 11:25 AM

3rd week , 7th day - #17

http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/d/2015-04-26/p/2/

attractive nausea 27th April 2015 05:12 PM

Why is it that it's always going up? :laugh

Delicious n Bold 27th April 2015 05:18 PM

Because ayu and the oricon are bffs, they go way back and understand each other. Lately they've been fighting a lot but deep down they understand each other.

YukiUsagi 27th April 2015 05:19 PM

because of Arena tour, I guess... :D

ayumisrael 27th April 2015 06:46 PM

Or because stuff went down to sell like 200 per day and A ONE sold 250.

Cahz- 27th April 2015 09:38 PM

Omg:roflmao

visionfactory 27th April 2015 11:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by attractive nausea (Post 3136054)
Why is it that it's always going up? :laugh

Because it goes down a lot on Tuesday because of new singles with strong 1st day sales, then the rest of the week it goes up

LONJJONG 28th April 2015 11:50 AM

A ONE is #23 this week with 3,317 copies sold. Total 43,854 copies sold!
I predict it to sell around 48k...

//ABEST 28th April 2015 11:54 AM

surprised how much it managed to sell :yes yay!

YukiUsagi 28th April 2015 12:10 PM

3rd week, 3,317 copies :D not bad

brener 28th April 2015 12:25 PM

Wow that's such good news!

ayumisrael 28th April 2015 01:00 PM

Thanks! Now that's surprising. Colours sold 2,922 on its 3rd week so at least A ONE drops less faster.

At least A ONE outsold poker face :P

Delicious n Bold 28th April 2015 05:35 PM

At this rage ayu can sell more than Kumi :O

Ayumi Romania 28th April 2015 06:51 PM

Yes!! Go Ayu

visionfactory 28th April 2015 07:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by visionfactory (Post 3134775)
Koda Kumi sold just 700 copies this week and her total is 46k!!

Ayu is just 6k away from Koda!! OMG :heart it's possible

Quoting myself, the gap is now 3k

:clapclap

AyuGAME 29th April 2015 02:36 AM

recochoku weekly album chart 4/22~4/28

A BEST - Down to position 2
A ONE - Down to position 19

KarenPang 30th April 2015 11:40 AM

A ONE went up to #30 yesterday

http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/d/2015-04-29/p/3/

ayumisrael 30th April 2015 11:52 AM

Thank you!

Does anyone that use baidu can check if it was on top 50 yesterday?

Linoa62 30th April 2015 01:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 3136771)
Thank you!

Does anyone that use baidu can check if it was on top 50 yesterday?

It was #43 yesterday it seems!
http://tieba.baidu.com/p/3732045216

ayumisrael 30th April 2015 01:39 PM

Why thank you!
It's great that it holds up on the top 50!

KarenPang 1st May 2015 11:24 AM

Yesterday - #25

http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/d/2015-04-30/p/3/

LONJJONG 1st May 2015 03:06 PM

Hopefully it will be at Top 30 again this week! :D

KarenPang 2nd May 2015 11:23 AM

Yesterday - #23

http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/d/2015-05-01/p/3/

tsumekaze_ 2nd May 2015 02:44 PM

it's doing nicely now isn't it!
go ayu!

visionfactory 2nd May 2015 10:33 PM

So good it's still on top 30!! :D

ayumisrael 3rd May 2015 12:42 PM

6th Day: #25

Pieces_of_SEVEN 3rd May 2015 01:11 PM

Nice!! Keep going, A ONE~!

orbitalaspect 3rd May 2015 07:14 PM

Yasssssssss! GO AYU!

By the way, Pieces, is that a photo of you? If so, you have the most ridiculously beautiful eyes! Super cute!

AyuGAME 5th May 2015 05:58 AM

Monthly Recochoku Chart (April)

A BEST - Position 3
A ONE - Position 5

Notes : Daily Chart A BEST - #1

YukiUsagi 5th May 2015 06:16 AM

Sorry, what is the Recochoku chart?

Surreal17 5th May 2015 08:15 AM

omg, A BEST is crazy Q__Q

LONJJONG 5th May 2015 10:48 AM

It's #26 this week with 2,241 copies sold!!
Total 46,095 copies sold!:love

And #31 on daily chart.

AyuGAME 5th May 2015 11:03 AM

^WOW! 50k is really possible...

Quote:

Originally Posted by YukiUsagi (Post 3137853)
Sorry, what is the Recochoku chart?

Digital chart...it has many categories like RBT, Uta, Video, album, etc...

And this is the chart for Album download digitally

Delicious n Bold 5th May 2015 11:15 AM

She's gonna oursell kumi :O

chocopockymaster 5th May 2015 11:26 AM

Wow, I'm impressed at how well A ONE is hanging on.

And A BEST is just ridiculous at this point :laugh

//ABEST 5th May 2015 11:37 AM

think about us celebrating her selling 2 241 on her 4th week lol :D but it still sell better than expected so yay :love

ayumisrael 5th May 2015 12:37 PM

Awesome!!

^Colours sold 1,486 on its 4th week =P

spanishfan 5th May 2015 03:46 PM

A ONE might end up selling about the same amount Colours did! [53,406 (10 weeks)]

brener 5th May 2015 04:21 PM

wow i'm pretty happy about the steadiness =]

jbrat2219 5th May 2015 08:56 PM

You know, if you play COLOURS right after A ONE it flows quite nicely. It helps make Moving On Without You as the last track make sense lol.

adantatu2 5th May 2015 10:02 PM

I'm glad she isn't dropping a lot, go ayuma !

pimenta 5th May 2015 10:16 PM

it's doing great!! I hope it gets to 50k :)

AyuGAME 6th May 2015 02:44 AM

recochoku weekly album chart 4/29~5/5

A BEST - Stay at position 2
A ONE - Down to position 26

melissalove 6th May 2015 02:55 AM

I'm happy ayu's doing alright. but..not a fan of ayu barely hitting 50k. :yes

visionfactory 6th May 2015 04:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delicious n Bold (Post 3137883)
She's gonna oursell kumi :O

She will!!! just 1k left
Been waiting for this :love

ayu-fan 6th May 2015 01:14 PM

Why the hell A BEST still continue to sell well?? 0__0 Just curious!

visionfactory 6th May 2015 01:55 PM

^Because it has been on discount price since last year

Gustavopc 6th May 2015 02:04 PM

If ayu outsells Kuu it'll be for like 2k rofl It's nothing in the end, and they've been selling the same amounts for ages (I guess except Love songs and FIVE iirc), it's pratically a draw

Ryusei 6th May 2015 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by visionfactory (Post 3138039)
^Because it has been on discount price since last year

That is one part but the other part is people still have to buy it. just being on discount doesn't really help.. I really wonder what drives so many people to buy an album that came out 14 years ago, not that I'm complaining I'm sure ayu doesn't complain about the extra cash either lol I'm waiting for it to get the gold certification

pimenta 6th May 2015 03:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryusei (Post 3138046)
That is one part but the other part is people still have to buy it. just being on discount doesn't really help.. I really wonder what drives so many people to buy an album that came out 14 years ago, not that I'm complaining I'm sure ayu doesn't complain about the extra cash either lol I'm waiting for it to get the gold certification

Yes and no, the discount helps a lot actually. There were a couple of weeks they removed the discount and immediately the album fell of the charts. I suppose that's why they put the discount back, better to sell a lot with the discount than to not sell well at all...

But you're right that there must be something else, there are other best albums with discount, but A BEST is the one slaying the charts for over a year now. Maybe people still remember it's extreme popularity back in the day and when they see it with the discount they think "why not? I remember it being awesome" and download it :D

I think this says a lot about Ayu's popularity among the general public. They may not pay attention to her new releases, but the public still love her old music.

YukiUsagi 6th May 2015 03:43 PM

Cheap price for a best album. Why not? :D

LONJJONG 6th May 2015 04:10 PM

A ONE is #36 today.

brener 7th May 2015 03:32 AM

That's such good news I mean it's the release day so it's the worst day for released stuff.. It could have dropped a lot but it's steady under top 50 ;)

[H] 7th May 2015 05:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pimenta (Post 3138048)
Yes and no, the discount helps a lot actually. There were a couple of weeks they removed the discount and immediately the album fell of the charts. I suppose that's why they put the discount back, better to sell a lot with the discount than to not sell well at all...

But you're right that there must be something else, there are other best albums with discount, but A BEST is the one slaying the charts for over a year now. Maybe people still remember it's extreme popularity back in the day and when they see it with the discount they think "why not? I remember it being awesome" and download it :D

I think this says a lot about Ayu's popularity among the general public. They may not pay attention to her new releases, but the public still love her old music.

I agree.
There's usually a turning point for a discount especially when it's been going on for a while. Maybe @pimenta 's point is right, people still remember ayu for he past works. If that's the case, they should have a double promo like combining A ONE with A BEST or sth.

But I've read somewhere that recochoku has sharply decline since the rise of internet downloads. so maybe even the sales of A BEST doesnt have that significant impact on ayu.

Anyway, thanks for updating the charts! so glad to see that A ONE is still on the top 50.

douggn 7th May 2015 08:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryusei (Post 3138046)
That is one part but the other part is people still have to buy it. just being on discount doesn't really help.. I really wonder what drives so many people to buy an album that came out 14 years ago, not that I'm complaining I'm sure ayu doesn't complain about the extra cash either lol I'm waiting for it to get the gold certification

It might be a little to do with Japanese culture as in the whole selling cds and space issue some people have. Like with a game. You may love it, but get bored so you trade it in. A few years later you may want to play that game again so you go out and re buy it.

LONJJONG 7th May 2015 01:59 PM

#33 today. ;)

KarenPang 8th May 2015 11:37 AM

A ONE went back up to #30 yesterday

http://www.oricon.co.jp/rank/ja/d/2015-05-07/p/3/

Minttulatte 8th May 2015 01:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Gustavopc (Post 3138042)
If ayu outsells Kuu it'll be for like 2k rofl It's nothing in the end, and they've been selling the same amounts for ages (I guess except Love songs and FIVE iirc), it's pratically a draw

And even if Ayu end up selling few copies more, Kuu still got #1 on the chart. :')

As for A ONE's chart success, she's doing well. People may be annoyed that she doesn't sell more, but I come from a small country and selling 46,000+ here is considered a hit album so I don't see those sales bad. I see them being good.

And A BEST has returned to the digital charts? Wow. O.O

Pieces_of_SEVEN 8th May 2015 03:07 PM

It just might be able to make it to 50k...!

brener 8th May 2015 03:36 PM

Pretty happy about it!

LONJJONG 9th May 2015 06:20 PM

5th Day: #36.

chocopockymaster 9th May 2015 06:37 PM

I'm amazed that it's been out for over a month and it's still charting in the top 50. :luv2

LONJJONG 10th May 2015 11:06 AM

6th Day: #32

It's so steady!:)

Matt_rq 10th May 2015 06:41 PM

oh my dear Ayu is selling what she deserves... she´s a legend.

LONJJONG 11th May 2015 12:04 PM

7th Day: #33

//ABEST 11th May 2015 12:39 PM

i hope she managed to sell 1000+ this week


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