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chocopockymaster 15th November 2017 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by inthezone (Post 3256148)
Namie is gonna block Kana lol

Kana hew tbh

OyTony 15th November 2017 01:54 PM

@SunshineSlayer
Thank you it worked. I try to get tickets for Nagoya and Fukuoka.
Good luck everyone. =D

@chocopockymaster
I went to the genic tour with two other people and it was not that striked. They are extra careful.

jiarongisme 15th November 2017 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Darkifrit (Post 3256094)
Woow one of the best CM ever made.
It's incredible how young she looked for 1992 period.
I'm not so familiar with her first PVs, what are the tributes ?
I would say :
1992 : Body Feels Exit (Not sure)
2000 : Say the word
2010 : WILD
2017 : not sure too but the color of the dress make me think of Fashionista

a walk in the park ;)

KarenPang 15th November 2017 02:36 PM

Honestly it will be great if Finally can chart on #1 for the 2nd week if not maybe 3 weeks ?

I doubt it can chart at #1 until the last week of Nov

Also I hope ALARM can crack the Top 10 . I didn't expect SideM & Uta Prince to release their singles this week oh boy :tired

thinkingoutloud89 15th November 2017 04:10 PM

^It only needs to get into the TOP10, not to get number 1..so there can be 9 other artist to chart higher than her.

KarenPang 15th November 2017 04:18 PM

Nah , in the 1st place I wasn't expecting ALARM to get #1 due to Kanjani∞

I didn't know SideM & Uta Prince were releasing their singles on the same week because they can sell considerably a lot and I learn from my sister not to underestimate both their fandoms lol

My sister herself told her friend to go Animate to buy 4 copies of THE IDOLM@STER SideM ANIMATION PROJECT 01 「Reason!!」 & this's the 1st time I heard the regular version of a single get sold out & not the limited version

hud 15th November 2017 05:30 PM

omg guys Namie is telling us she's getting married again with that reference!!!

jk.

also, I love that she was above Kana for today. LOVE it! ♥

melissalove 15th November 2017 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by snowo (Post 3256175)
omg guys Namie is telling us she's getting married again with that reference!!!

jk.

also, I love that she was above Kana for today. LOVE it! ♥

Omg What?

hud 15th November 2017 10:35 PM

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Originally Posted by melissalove (Post 3256188)
Omg What?

haha I'm joking. it's because of this:

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Originally Posted by haraiso (Post 3256096)
Also did anyone notice the backup dancers during the 1992-era are wearing her wedding announcement look? Same hair too haha.
https://i.imgur.com/sPZNNIj.jpg https://i.imgur.com/VLYPDHl.jpg


U-GO-BOY 15th November 2017 11:32 PM

Hey guys,
in honour of Namie's 25th anniversary I made a remix of Say the Word! What do you think?

https://soundcloud.com/iamugoboy/nam...-free-download

KarenPang 16th November 2017 04:08 AM

Kouhaku's performers list has been released today & unfortunately Namie is not on the list :x

What a shame , she should at most perform on Kouhaku before she retire so now the only way to really see her live in performance will be her final tour D:

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https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOuY7i_VwAAQWZj.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOuY83yUIAApAS4.jpg

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DOuZLQIVAAAI4Iq.jpg

SunshineSlayer 16th November 2017 04:46 AM

lol. http://aramajapan.com/news/ayumi-ham...e-amuro/82660/

orbitalaspect 16th November 2017 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 3256221)

"Please try to remember all the things our new Dark Lord has done for us. Moments was amazing." LMAO.

tokyoxjapanxfan 16th November 2017 07:55 AM

Honestly I'm hoping for some avex magic over the weekend for Alarm.

KarenPang 16th November 2017 10:25 AM

Also , Finally 2nd week sales

1st day - #1 ; 48,273
2nd day - #1 ; 52,319

Total 2 day sales - 100,592

http://tieba.baidu.com/p/5436065564?pn=2

ALARM charts at #8

I think Finally is able to chart at #1 for the 2nd week as 2nd day sales for Kana's LOVE it is 14,923 . Finally has already outsold LOVE it almost 2:1

haraiso 16th November 2017 11:14 AM

Amazing at how sales actually went up for Finally! are people now buying extra copies for the lottery? :laugh

And yesssss @ ALARM!

Tower Records posted that they didn't start shipping out pre-ordered copies until yesterday. And Oricon doesn't count copies until they're shipped I think. So I think that explains the boost. I hope the rest of the week is enough for it to be in the Top 10!

KarenPang 16th November 2017 11:44 AM

Finally is still not listed on iTunes Japan and/or Recochoku , I guess Dimension Point really wants to push it to sell more physical copies with this being Namie's all time best album

Going to order the Taiwan press copy now before I forget x)

Gustavopc 16th November 2017 12:06 PM

go go go alarm go :banana2

Mirrorcle Monster 16th November 2017 01:24 PM

Am I the only one who doesn't like this ALARM campaign? It's nice and all but what's wrong if it stays a #11 single? It shows how at one point she wasnt able to crack top 10 but still could pull a miracle comeback and take back the crown

inthezone 16th November 2017 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by KarenPang (Post 3256242)
Also , Finally 2nd week sales

1st day - #1 ; 48,273
2nd day - #1 ; 52,319

Total 2 day sales - 100,592

http://tieba.baidu.com/p/5436065564?pn=2

ALARM charts at #8

I think Finally is able to chart at #1 for the 2nd week as 2nd day sales for Kana's LOVE it is 14,923 . Finally has already outsold LOVE it almost 2:1

You missed Monday, Namie has an extra day

KarenPang 16th November 2017 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by inthezone (Post 3256259)
You missed Monday, Namie has an extra day

Nope , that's not true , Mon's sales was already counted as part of Finally's 1st week sales

http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showpo...&postcount=127

So no Namie didn't had an extra day

Negi92 16th November 2017 02:54 PM

Tuesday’s numbers for monday are the one missing and are the first day of the second week.

inthezone 16th November 2017 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by KarenPang (Post 3256261)
Nope , that's not true , Mon's sales was already counted as part of Finally's 1st week sales

http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showpo...&postcount=127

So no Namie didn't had an extra day

I'm pretty sure a day is missing though because she has a day more than Kana, she should be around 150k

thinkingoutloud89 16th November 2017 04:24 PM

^thats right. Namie is at 147k now

SunshineSlayer 16th November 2017 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by tokyoxjapanxfan (Post 3256237)
Honestly I'm hoping for some avex magic over the weekend for Alarm.

They picked a bad week to do this alarm campaign. People just bought the album and are busy worrying about getting concert tickets. Doing this over New Years or possibly the week of her retirement would have been better. Maybe they will try again?

thinkingoutloud89 16th November 2017 05:12 PM

^I dunno why they just did it last week so people could have bought it in bundle. But she only needs to get to 10 weekly and she is 8 today + the single had a day extra of sales. If most of the other singles go down she will be safe.

Corvina 16th November 2017 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mirrorcle Monster (Post 3256256)
Am I the only one who doesn't like this ALARM campaign? It's nice and all but what's wrong if it stays a #11 single? It shows how at one point she wasnt able to crack top 10 but still could pull a miracle comeback and take back the crown

No, I'm with you here.
Why trying to "correct" history?
It's nicer without doing that.

thinkingoutloud89 16th November 2017 06:12 PM

^Well, you can view it like that but that girl is retiring and gave a lot of her life to her fans, so fans wanna give her back that one little thing and I don't think its "correcting history" but rather "a gift from fans/public for her farewell."

It's not like they are stomping 20 singles up in the top 10 and I do think this wouldn't happen if another one or two singles would have missed the spot. Wouldn't you participate in a campaign like that for Kumi?

SunshineSlayer 16th November 2017 06:23 PM

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Originally Posted by thinkingoutloud89 (Post 3256273)
^I dunno why they just did it last week so people could have bought it in bundle. But she only needs to get to 10 weekly and she is 8 today + the single had a day extra of sales. If most of the other singles go down she will be safe.

Wasn't it #18 the first two days though?

Anyway, if it can be pulled off that's great. :) I also respect the argument though that it should be left as is; no need to change history.

On another note, How do you feel now? has grown on me. I think the CM helped.

I feel like this track was very last minute. Title was announced last and TK was saying when she announced her retirement that it would be nice to be able to work with her again, implying that they hadn't done a song yet to that point. I feel like this was a track he had kind of laying around but not done anything with yet, and because it was last minute they just decided to kill two birds with one stone and make the PV the recording of the song.

oaristos 16th November 2017 06:28 PM

I'm happy enough that some people are buying ALARM at all, since the track wasn't included on Finally. Plus, everyone can have a chance to remember (or discover) how amazing STROBE is. :yes

Corvina 16th November 2017 06:47 PM

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Originally Posted by thinkingoutloud89 (Post 3256285)

It's not like they are stomping 20 singles up in the top 10 and I do think this wouldn't happen if another one or two singles would have missed the spot. Wouldn't you participate in a campaign like that for Kumi?

No, I wouldn't, cause it also just wouldn't change anything.
I mean, ALARM stays being not Top 10 in its first week.
(plus I own all of Kuu's stuff anyway and wouldn't buy something again)

Cahz- 16th November 2017 06:57 PM

This ALARM campaign has two faces: the fans doing it for love and gratitude... and the stores taking advantage of that.:P
But I respect what fans are trying to do.
I remember back in 2011 Britney fans tried to bring Blackout to #1 on Billboard buying massively on iTunes lol

thinkingoutloud89 16th November 2017 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Corvina (Post 3256290)
No, I wouldn't, cause it also just wouldn't change anything.
I mean, ALARM stays being not Top 10 in its first week.
(plus I own all of Kuu's stuff anyway and wouldn't buy something again)

Your opinion...again, I highly disagree with you and i don't get why you have so pessimistic about this. I remember you not even liking most of her stuff anyways.
A Clap for you for owning everything from Kumi, i own ALARM for years and let a friend buy one nevertheless.

Corvina 16th November 2017 07:23 PM

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Originally Posted by thinkingoutloud89 (Post 3256298)
Your opinion...again, I highly disagree with you and i don't get why you have so pessimistic about this. I remember you not even liking most of her stuff anyways.
A Clap for you for owning everything from Kumi, i own ALARM for years and let a friend buy one nevertheless.

Lol, pessimistic.
I just agree with Mirrorcle Monster.
It performed like it performed back then and shows, what she achieved after that more clearly. Let her history speak for itself.
Let it be a natural progression.

JackieRos 16th November 2017 08:07 PM

Are we mad now that ALARM is charting again? lol
We’re going crazy now.

Gustavopc 16th November 2017 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by thinkingoutloud89 (Post 3256285)
Wouldn't you participate in a campaign like that for Kumi?

Geez, why bring Kuu into this? Again, don't take things personal, seriously, the comments were not even negative.

melissalove 16th November 2017 08:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Minerva (Post 3256310)
Are we mad now that ALARM is charting again? lol
We’re going crazy now.

My thought exactly.

S4MU3L 16th November 2017 08:55 PM

Just saw on instagram a preview of her interview on NHK and she is crying, I wonder why....

thinkingoutloud89 16th November 2017 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Gustavopc (Post 3256311)
Geez, why bring Kuu into this? Again, don't take things personal, seriously, the comments were not even negative.

Hu? it has nothing to do with Kuu, I just asked because I know she is a big-fan and I wanted to ask on a similar level of fandom.

I still don't get the problem. Moreover, on the one hand its being said that fans try to rewrite history and two post laters its said that it won't change the initial charting. Why just not let them have that moment for their favorite singer?

Spiral 16th November 2017 10:36 PM

Something neato from twitter. looks like genius 2000/break the rules era namie?

https://i.imgur.com/HQdWxwG.png

youtube neatoness. original version compared to finally versions.

Mr. U.S.A - Sweet 19 Blues (1992-1996)
a walk in the park - GIRL TALK (1996-2004)
WANT ME, WANT ME - Get Myself Back (2005-2010)
Fight Together - TSUKI (2011 - 2014)

kaled kalil 17th November 2017 12:21 AM

I personally think the campaign is cool. It's not about erasing the past or something, but they are trying to create a bigger impact that she already had. And even about the "it doesn't matter because it's not the first week", I think this is even better. It's never too late.

Baco__ 17th November 2017 01:07 AM

Why would one be against this campaign? It's not like the fans are building a time machine and CORRECTING HISTORY, this is not a revisionist movement, people lmao

Personally I think it's fu**ing cool that her fans are doing that. So instead of entering history as "the one single that didn't make it to the top 10" ALARM is going to be remembered as the single that didn't enter the top 10 when it was released, but when Namie announced her retirement, fans joined forces and gave this as a present to her immaculate discography and sales/rankings (and let's face it: if there's ANY Namie's single that don't deserve to be in the top10, this definitely isn't ALARM!)

PS: I don't understand why the commotion about bringing Koda into the discussion. The user clearly is a big Koda fan, it was just a comparison. A fair one, btw. If a campaign like this was to be done to bring BoA's not-top10 singles to the top10 I'd be definitely in lmao.

tokyoxjapanxfan 17th November 2017 02:11 AM

It makes no difference if it's in the first week or not. It would just need to enter the top 10 at any period since being released to be counted as a top 10 single.

If there was another artist and they were really close in some sort of sales record, then a technicality like first week would come into play.

Oricon has lost all my respect tbqh, so this sort of stunt doesn't bother me in the slightest. I do think that it might not make it though... unless weekend sales are able to edge out the other singles...

It's not really rewriting history either
It's just adding to it :)

The first charting will still be recorded, it will just have a second chart life.

S4MU3L 17th November 2017 02:45 AM

I think its a great idea wether it have success or not. And is not like they are trying with all her singles lol.

I actually find it amazing how this single reentered in the top 10 many years later, even if is just for a day.

EndOfTheWorld 17th November 2017 03:40 AM

I can't believe the ALARM campaign has become controversial.:roflmao
It's not erasing history. ALARM will always have it's original charting recorded. If it enters the top 10 again it doesn't change the original release. It will be known as the single that did not chart in the top 10 at the time of it's release but did enter the top 10 during Namie's retirement era thanks to the fans coming together to support her and show their love.
If it ends up being successful it will be a pretty impressive feat. It's not easy to get everyone to come together for a cause.

KarenPang 17th November 2017 04:51 AM

The fact that the ALARM campaign is initiated by Namie's fans and also supported by the respective CD stores within Japan , I think that says a lot on how much Namie is meant to a lot of people

If this was something that avex initiated , I would be annoyed as it's an obvious blatant way for them to earn more $ which in this case it's true to a certain extent

Not to mention , fans in other fandoms also did something similar like this . Before SMAP officially disbanded , fans were buying Sekai ni Hitotsu Dake no Hana in bulk in hoping that the news wasn't true & just rumours but sadly that wasn't the case

If Namie's fans want to participate and help ALARM , I don't see what's the problem about it . They're the ones spending $ to buy the single in trying their best to get it chart in the Top 10 in Oricon , not me

And I also think it's downright ridiculous to drag Kuu in the picture where she has nothing to do with this . Really , end of the day it tends to be the respective artistes' fans that have problems with each other , not the artistes themselves and that's so childish :irked

Miduhyo 17th November 2017 05:11 AM

Not to change the conversation actually that's exactly what I want to do but I think the FEEL tour was her best tour. I'm rewatching it right now and from beginning to end she just looks like she's having so. much. freaking. fun. Especially during the Hands On Me and Supernatural Love performances. I mean, I know we know nothing about her final tour so I guess I shouldn't say her 'best' but it certainly is my favorite by miles. I love every single freaking thing about it from the costumes to the setlist to the stage to the audience interactions.

God, I wish I could've seen her live before she retires just to be a part of that energy for a bit. :(

What's y'all's favorite tour?

Corvina 17th November 2017 08:03 AM

Oh, people, it's just a personal opinion! :laugh
I know, that officially it can still reach a TOP 10 position with that.
It charted like it charted back then though, but in Namie's listing of her discography you then just see, how it has done altogether (the singles peak position over all and so on). You have to look further into it to see, that it charted again. With a campaign.
That's how it feels like "correcting" history to me. That's why I used quotation marks.
I personally don't like campaigns like that, no matter the artist (though I do like the fandom behind it).
Guess, I'm mad and crazy! :happy1:

(btw. SMAP's Sekai ni Hitotsu Dake no Hana did chart at #5 at the start of this week)

My favourite tour still is her 2010 PAST<FUTURE Tour.
Man, I love that part of her career.

Not Fade Away 17th November 2017 08:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Corvina (Post 3256349)
My favourite tour still is her 2010 PAST<FUTURE Tour.
Man, I love that part of her career.

OMFG yes. Everything about that tour was freaking amazing...and the remixes she did to Wild & Do Me More were so on point.

thinkingoutloud89 17th November 2017 10:08 AM

yep the remixes were great. So CRAZY Tour is still my favorite though - even if the recorded sound is not as clear.

Baco__ 17th November 2017 10:53 AM

My favorite is still PLAY Tour haha :x

S4MU3L 17th November 2017 12:59 PM

Alarm is #7 today. I see it charting #11 again haha (18-18-8-7)

thinkingoutloud89 17th November 2017 01:02 PM

It depends on how much the other singles around it went down. Its not the position that counts, but the totals sales of everything around it. I guess it will make sharo 10

Celaphorce 17th November 2017 03:23 PM

Best Fiction tour, I mean the fact that Alarm and So Crazy were revamped made them that much more epic! That entire concert was PURE entertainment. From the stage set-ups, to the setlist, the outfits, and not to mention a live band. I miss the days when she would have a live band play the music rather than hearing a back track...either way like I said Best Fiction tour has to be my favorite. Especially when she flubbed during Wishing On The Same Star and that cute little mistake in White Light.

SunshineSlayer 17th November 2017 04:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Miduhyo (Post 3256342)
Not to change the conversation actually that's exactly what I want to do but I think the FEEL tour was her best tour. I'm rewatching it right now and from beginning to end she just looks like she's having so. much. freaking. fun. Especially during the Hands On Me and Supernatural Love performances. I mean, I know we know nothing about her final tour so I guess I shouldn't say her 'best' but it certainly is my favorite by miles. I love every single freaking thing about it from the costumes to the setlist to the stage to the audience interactions.

God, I wish I could've seen her live before she retires just to be a part of that energy for a bit. :(

What's y'all's favorite tour?

I agree about the Feel tour. Namie's tours are quite hit and miss for me (and I'm a huge fan). It's odd because there are some years that are just amazing both energy and choreography wise and then other years where it has felt phoned in. I agree Feel is one of her best. Also, ones that come immediately to mind are Live Style 2011, So Crazy 2003-2004, and the Genic tour.

oaristos 17th November 2017 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Corvina (Post 3256349)
My favourite tour still is her 2010 PAST<FUTURE Tour.
Man, I love that part of her career.

Same! That tour was perfect. :love

R_Hikki 17th November 2017 06:19 PM

My favourite tour might be Live Style 2011 just for WAF, No, and Top Secret. Those performances still give me chills.

himawariii6 17th November 2017 06:33 PM

My favourite tour is Break the rules tour 2001 :luv2

SunshineSlayer 17th November 2017 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by R_Hikki (Post 3256394)
My favourite tour might be Live Style 2011 just for WAF, No, and Top Secret. Those performances still give me chills.

Yep. They were amazing. And then the string of performances just before the encore ending with Unusual, the choreography was insane, especially for so late in the concert.

Marcelo 17th November 2017 08:27 PM

I saw on Facebook that there's an hour long interview out now or coming? I didn't understand much about it except that she was crying.

SunshineSlayer 17th November 2017 10:39 PM

Namie is getting a special award from the Japan Record Awards this year. No word on if she will actually appear. Since she is apparently not doing Kohaku, I have a feeling it will just be past clips they have to show; maybe we'll at least get some updated HD past performance of hers or something.

http://www.tbs.co.jp/recordaward/

chocopockymaster 17th November 2017 10:41 PM

When is the Hulu doc supposed to start airing?

Not Fade Away 18th November 2017 03:28 AM

^It already started airing - I haven't seen any English-subbed videos online though :no.

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Originally Posted by Marcelo (Post 3256402)
I saw on Facebook that there's an hour long interview out now or coming? I didn't understand much about it except that she was crying.

Yeah the interview is with NHK, I'm really hoping that there will be some english-subbed versions, but unfortunately that seems pretty rare with Namie videos.

If anyone is aware of any out there, can you please share the link? (I'll keep a look out myself).

haraiso 18th November 2017 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by R_Hikki (Post 3256394)
My favourite tour might be Live Style 2011 just for WAF, No, and Top Secret. Those performances still give me chills.

YESSSS. LS'11 had so many of my favorite tour moments from her. Those 3 songs in particular were sooooo good.

Not to mention that amazing opening movie.

hayasaki 18th November 2017 12:10 PM

Hi everyone! i think i rarely post on Namie’s thread. Anyway i might be too late but i just noticed how i might be in Taipei around the time she’ll be performing there. Can anyone enlighten me how to get tickets there? If anyone has attended her lives in TPE

CeReSu 18th November 2017 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by haraiso (Post 3256431)
YESSSS. LS'11 had so many of my favorite tour moments from her. Those 3 songs in particular were sooooo good.

Not to mention that amazing opening movie.

Me too, LS11 is my fav :luv2:luv2:luv2

prussian blue 18th November 2017 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by hayasaki (Post 3256443)
Hi everyone! i think i rarely post on Namie’s thread. Anyway i might be too late but i just noticed how i might be in Taipei around the time she’ll be performing there. Can anyone enlighten me how to get tickets there? If anyone has attended her lives in TPE

I've attended her past two concerts here in Taipei.

The first one was 2013 where the ticket was sold through FamilyMart. I didn't know Namie's popularity so huge here in Taiwan until I went to an isolated FamilyMart to buy the ticket, while there was already a long line before the machine. (I still managed to get the ticket though, but only terrible angle seat was available)

The second time was 2015 where the ticket was sold online, a friend of mine helped me to get the ticket, I've heard you need to show the same credit card to prove your ID etc.

They still haven't announced her upcoming tour ticket info though, I'm sure it's pretty much the same with the last one, and fans here will be insane to get it :tired her fanbase is HUGE in Taiwan

lfe. 18th November 2017 05:30 PM

I finally got around to listening to Finally. I think at a first listen, a lot of people won't like a lot of the re-records. I love them all though because her audio doesn't seem to be altered much from studio edits. This is the real Namie. I've grown to be a huge Namie fan ever since the first live concert I saw of her on DVD/bluray. Its her live performances that has made me grown to love a lot of songs that I never enjoyed when listening to the studio releases. Her voice may not be at her prime as it was 5-10 years back but I love this "unedited" Namie vocals of Finally.

A lot of people on other sites hating because of the song choices of this compilation album and that there are only a mini-albums worth of new songs, but the quality of these new songs are possibly better than any of her recent albums. Not sure you can really count Just You & I and Hope as new songs since they are new OST releases, but In Two, How do you feel now, Showtime, Do It for Love, and Finally are all spectacular. As for the song choices, if they are real Namie fans, they should know that a lot of her songs, while they may be popular to the public she doesn't like a lot of them, and that she never gave a f### about how people perceive of her, so what she gives, we choose to receive. And if you don't like it, then just don't buy it. Its not like its going to hurt her sales, because Finally is ruling Japan right now. All the music stores, Tsutaya, Tower Records, etc, all their workers are wearing "Namie Amuro 25th Anniversary" T-shirts and her posters are everywhere.

In Two.... is just simply perfect. As the final EDM track of her career, she leaves a worthy successor to Alive and Stranger. Clubs in Japan rarely if never play any Japanese music, but I can see Tokyo clubs like Atom or Camelot playing In Two if there are Japanese DJs. Finally is beautiful and so sad to listen to. I hope in her tour she will sing it as the final song in the tracklist, though it will just bring me and everyone else to reach for their Kleenex.

Speaking of the tour, do you guys think if you request for more than 2 tickets, it decreases your chance of winning the lottery? I mean, I'm sure we all have very low chance of winning the lottery in general, but do you guys think requesting more tickets lowers it even further?

SunshineSlayer 19th November 2017 06:00 PM

^ I would think yes. Honestly, best chance is to just go for single tickets. I couldn't do that though 'cause my mom is a huge Namie fan too. Damn it. lol

As for Finally, after listening to it a few times, I don't like a lot of the re-recordings. Don't hate them, but they sound less "full" to me. Namie's voice has defeinitely changed as she's gotten older. She still has a great voice, but over the last two years in particular I feel that it's gotten higher and less full sounding. Possibly due to age or possibly due to overuse from all the touring she's been doing, as a result I feel that the rerecordings lack some punch to them.

voltron 19th November 2017 08:24 PM

^ I kinda feel the same way for disc 2, but I really love disc 1. Though I feel the mastering of the songs on disc one aren't great and they have a grainy sound. It almost feels to me like they took a rip off the audio from the 5 domes tour and just mastered them, because they're quite similar.

Not Fade Away 20th November 2017 03:09 AM

Woo hoo! So glad she's at 1,364,362 total sales now. :) Go Namie!

aznranie 20th November 2017 12:01 PM

Thanks all for the info really appreciate it, I'm so late to this - just bought the album and hoping desperately to score two tickets for April in OSAKA. I am so sad to hear she's retiring :'(

KarenPang 20th November 2017 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by lfe. (Post 3256465)
Speaking of the tour, do you guys think if you request for more than 2 tickets, it decreases your chance of winning the lottery? I mean, I'm sure we all have very low chance of winning the lottery in general, but do you guys think requesting more tickets lowers it even further?

Your chances in winning the ticket balloting might be better if you ballot for 1 ticket as the organisers will need to fill up in between seats in the Dome

Then again it's really hard to say cos end of the day , ticket balloting depends on how lucky or unlucky you're

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https://scontent-sit4-1.xx.fbcdn.net...21&oe=5AAF651C

セブン-イレブン店舗で、限定特典「Finally」オリジナルトートバック」をGETしてね ☆

https://www.facebook.com/NamieAmuroO...267027/?type=3

Man wish the 7/11 stores here would do stuff like this :x

Then again the conbini in Japan & Taiwan are way better than here so , LOL

chocopockymaster 20th November 2017 06:12 PM

Daaaaaaaaaamn--just a little clarification on the ticket lottery:

I got my replacement copy of Finally and went to go try and apply for the same date I'd already applied for and it won't let me...you really can only apply once per date even if you've purchased multiple copies of the album. The friend I designated as my accompanying person when I balloted the first time around also won't be able to apply for the same date despite the fact that she has her own lottery code from the copy she purchased.

So I applied for one ticket for the final lol we'll see how this goes

SunshineSlayer 20th November 2017 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by chocopockymaster (Post 3256588)
Daaaaaaaaaamn--just a little clarification on the ticket lottery:

I got my replacement copy of Finally and went to go try and apply for the same date I'd already applied for and it won't let me...you really can only apply once per date even if you've purchased multiple copies of the album. The friend I designated as my accompanying person when I balloted the first time around also won't be able to apply for the same date despite the fact that she has her own lottery code from the copy she purchased.

So I applied for one ticket for the final lol we'll see how this goes

Actually that's a little comforting to know. :)

chocopockymaster 20th November 2017 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 3256589)
Actually that's a little comforting to know. :)

Yeah it seems like they're doing whatever they can to ensure everyone has a fair shot at getting tickets and that people who have a few hundred bucks laying around can't buy a dozen copies and enter the lottery a bunch of times :)

Hope you and your mom get to go; me and Elin are trying for the June dates!

tomiko8 20th November 2017 08:26 PM

HAS ANYONE PURCHASED TICKETS FOR HER HK PERFORMANCES BEFORE ? I'm wondering if I could possibly score tickets there easier than in Japan.

mi|kshake 20th November 2017 10:03 PM

My copy of Finally arrived today! YesAsia seem to be delivering quicker than usual lately.

EDIT: Almost finished Disc 1 and loads of thoughts to post but my main one is...why did they hide the guitar in the chorus of I Have Never Seen!? Everything else about the Finally version is great though.

freedreamer 21st November 2017 03:24 AM

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Originally Posted by tomiko8 (Post 3256594)
HAS ANYONE PURCHASED TICKETS FOR HER HK PERFORMANCES BEFORE ? I'm wondering if I could possibly score tickets there easier than in Japan.

For Asia dates, its probably gonna be a First-Come-First-Serve system. So once the portal opens, everyone is gonna be rushing in to get their seats. There is no balloting and timeframe for this. Once tickets are sold and snatched, then its pretty much a sold-out concert and thats it. Only other way is to buy from resellers (who may or may not jack the price)

KarenPang 21st November 2017 03:39 AM

Oricon wrote that within 2 weeks , Finally has sold 1.435 million copies

Finally sold about 322K in the 2nd week

https://www.oricon.co.jp/news/210095...?ref_cd=tw_pic

Also since Oricon didn't write anything about ALARM , I assume it didn't (re)chart on Top 10

ayuinh.k? 21st November 2017 04:26 AM

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Originally Posted by KarenPang (Post 3256614)
Oricon wrote that within 2 weeks , Finally has sold 1.435 million copies

Finally sold about 322K in the 2nd week

https://www.oricon.co.jp/news/210095...?ref_cd=tw_pic

Also since Oricon didn't write anything about ALARM , I assume it didn't (re)chart on Top 10

Finally is now the best selling album of 2017 👍🏼

lfe. 21st November 2017 06:07 AM

Well I think I just screwed myself. I registered my d-point card and when it gave me the link to tickebo, it goes straight to a registration page for japan only residents unable to choose country or switch out some things like prefecture. So I create a tickebo account through their english page, then I link the two accounts in my d-point account page, but now theres nothing there and whenever I try to log in to tickebo it says 404 error.....

Guess I am just going to have to pray for not so robbery prices for resale tickets on ticketcamp....

*edit*

It looks like for some reason my tickebo account got deleted, possibly after I decided to link it to my dpoint account. So I can remake it, but is there some sort of correct way to register for the lottery?

KarenPang 21st November 2017 09:07 AM

Finally 2nd week sales - 321,956

Total 2 week sales - 1,435,247

Also ALARM actually was in Oricon last week at #149 . This week , it's at #14

http://tieba.baidu.com/p/5444510302?pn=2

Not so sure if ALARM has another shot in getting Top 10 but I think Finally can stay at #1 for another week until next week

chocopockymaster 21st November 2017 11:12 AM

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Originally Posted by lfe. (Post 3256621)
Well I think I just screwed myself. I registered my d-point card and when it gave me the link to tickebo, it goes straight to a registration page for japan only residents unable to choose country or switch out some things like prefecture. So I create a tickebo account through their english page, then I link the two accounts in my d-point account page, but now theres nothing there and whenever I try to log in to tickebo it says 404 error.....

Guess I am just going to have to pray for not so robbery prices for resale tickets on ticketcamp....

*edit*

It looks like for some reason my tickebo account got deleted, possibly after I decided to link it to my dpoint account. So I can remake it, but is there some sort of correct way to register for the lottery?

I would be very wary of trying to get tickets from third party sellers for this concert.

I've never seen them make you specify who will be accompanying you to the concert this far in advance and there are warnings all over the place about name changes not being allowed under any circumstances and that they will check your passport, ID, etc against your ticket when you enter the venue.

Guess we'll see how serious they are when the first shows start in February...

KarenPang 21st November 2017 11:36 AM

Worst case scenario is if Dimension Point decides to utilise facial-scanning technology at the Dome venues but with it being a Dome tour , I doubt so as it will take a very long time to clear security but you never know

ARASHI (not sure for their current Dome tour) , B'z , Mr.Children are some of the artistes that have done this as tickets to their concerts are so hard to get and for Johnnys' concerts , you only can attend if you're in their fanclub

But yet even fanclub members at times are not able to get tickets themselves

lfe. 21st November 2017 12:54 PM

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Originally Posted by chocopockymaster (Post 3256650)
I would be very wary of trying to get tickets from third party sellers for this concert.

I've never seen them make you specify who will be accompanying you to the concert this far in advance and there are warnings all over the place about name changes not being allowed under any circumstances and that they will check your passport, ID, etc against your ticket when you enter the venue.

Guess we'll see how serious they are when the first shows start in February...

They only seem to request whos accompanying you if you request more than 2 tickets, which seems to be their way of weeding out resellers. If you request 2 tickets it should be fine, I'm more worried that I seem to have messed up the registration and possibly forfeited my chance to enter the lottery.....

voltron 21st November 2017 01:40 PM

^ No, even for two tickets you have to specify and they must also have a ticketboard account already.

Xianghua 21st November 2017 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by chocopockymaster (Post 3256650)
and that they will check your passport, ID, etc against your ticket when you enter the venue.

OH NO. I just realized that my name for fanspace/ticketboard is written in hiragana, but my name on both my passport and zairyu card is written in English. I hope that won't give me problems. :no

Marcelo 21st November 2017 05:20 PM

Isn’t Finally then the best selling album of the year around the whole world? At least by physical sales? Or then a good second after Taylor Swift’s reputation, which of course has iTunes sales as well.

tomiko8 21st November 2017 06:39 PM

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Originally Posted by freedreamer (Post 3256613)
For Asia dates, its probably gonna be a First-Come-First-Serve system. So once the portal opens, everyone is gonna be rushing in to get their seats. There is no balloting and timeframe for this. Once tickets are sold and snatched, then its pretty much a sold-out concert and thats it. Only other way is to buy from resellers (who may or may not jack the price)

I was fearing that would be the case I guess back to the resellers I go. Every time I think about not seeing her for the last time I am not alright with that...WHY DO YOU HAVE TO GO THROUGH HELL AND HIGH WATER JUST TO SEE THIS GIRL,IT'S ACTUALLY DISHEARTENING

SunshineSlayer 21st November 2017 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Xianghua (Post 3256670)
OH NO. I just realized that my name for fanspace/ticketboard is written in hiragana, but my name on both my passport and zairyu card is written in English. I hope that won't give me problems. :no

I think people are probably overthinking a bit.

Number 1, I've bought Namie tickets from resale shops or Yahoo auctions many times and I am obviously not Japanese and obviously do not match the kanji name that is on the ticket.

Number 2, even if the person checking your ticket knows it's not yours, most Japanese will be too scared because of the language barrier to even attempt to bring it up; it's much easier for them to just wave you through.

My fanspace account was registered in Japan and I was unable to even put hiragana or katakana for my name and had to make my own makeshift Kanji name that would phonetically come close to matching mine. It's six characters and looks ridiculous, lol; never once got questioned at venue, asked to see my passport, et cetera.

inthezone 21st November 2017 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Marcelo (Post 3256676)
Isn’t Finally then the best selling album of the year around the whole world? At least by physical sales? Or then a good second after Taylor Swift’s reputation, which of course has iTunes sales as well.

Nah Ed Sheeran is

Marcelo 21st November 2017 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by inthezone (Post 3256687)
Nah Ed Sheeran is

But didn’t Taylor already outsold him...and wasn’t Ed’s album ”only” at 900k or something? Idk, just remember seeing an article about that. So Namie should be above that already. (And I’m talking about physical copies only, streaming can’t be counted in this case)

lfe. 21st November 2017 07:49 PM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 3256685)
I think people are probably overthinking a bit.

Number 1, I've bought Namie tickets from resale shops or Yahoo auctions many times and I am obviously not Japanese and obviously do not match the kanji name that is on the ticket.

Number 2, even if the person checking your ticket knows it's not yours, most Japanese will be too scared because of the language barrier to even attempt to bring it up; it's much easier for them to just wave you through.

My fanspace account was registered in Japan and I was unable to even put hiragana or katakana for my name and had to make my own makeshift Kanji name that would phonetically come close to matching mine. It's six characters and looks ridiculous, lol; never once got questioned at venue, asked to see my passport, et cetera.

Do you input the kanji in the field that says phonetic? I'm still trying to figure out how to make my tickebo account. I'm not sure how other U.S. fanclub members made theirs, but I am only able to get to the Japan registration page after I made my d-point account.

Xianghua 21st November 2017 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 3256685)
I think people are probably overthinking a bit.

Number 1, I've bought Namie tickets from resale shops or Yahoo auctions many times and I am obviously not Japanese and obviously do not match the kanji name that is on the ticket.

Number 2, even if the person checking your ticket knows it's not yours, most Japanese will be too scared because of the language barrier to even attempt to bring it up; it's much easier for them to just wave you through.

My fanspace account was registered in Japan and I was unable to even put hiragana or katakana for my name and had to make my own makeshift Kanji name that would phonetically come close to matching mine. It's six characters and looks ridiculous, lol; never once got questioned at venue, asked to see my passport, et cetera.

I'm definitely overthinking, lol.
Because of the hype over how the lottery became more strict this time. They've never written they were going to check names in the rules before, I think.

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Originally Posted by lfe. (Post 3256693)
Do you input the kanji in the field that says phonetic? I'm still trying to figure out how to make my tickebo account. I'm not sure how other U.S. fanclub members made theirs, but I am only able to get to the Japan registration page after I made my d-point account.

I used katakana in the phonetic field.

mi|kshake 21st November 2017 09:39 PM

Quote:

Isn’t Finally then the best selling album of the year around the whole world? At least by physical sales? Or then a good second after Taylor Swift’s reputation, which of course has iTunes sales as well.
I was wondering how well Finally did versus other recent album releases but I couldn't see it charting on the Official World Charts.

andre2907 22nd November 2017 03:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Marcelo (Post 3256688)
But didn’t Taylor already outsold him...and wasn’t Ed’s album ”only” at 900k or something? Idk, just remember seeing an article about that. So Namie should be above that already. (And I’m talking about physical copies only, streaming can’t be counted in this case)

Sheeran is at 900k in the US only. It's way over 3 million ww.

lfe. 22nd November 2017 04:47 AM

So it looks like my emergency was a false alarm and I was just being a moron. I didn't realize if I logged in through fanspace then their link for tickebo, I can just apply for the lottery there.

As for the e-mail registration of attending guests discussion, its hard to say. I wish there was someone who experienced using tickebo.jp before, that way we know if attending guests have to always put in their e-mail address, hence we would know if change of guests can just transfer the tickets. I know they are doing this to prevent the abuse of resale, but how can they completely remove the option of resale? Things happen, sometimes something serious comes up, people can't make an event, and they have to resell or give to a friend or the ticket goes to waste. Would security be so enforced that they would rather let a seat go to waste than have a guaranteed attendant to enjoy the show?

Xianghua 22nd November 2017 05:26 AM

^ well yes, guests always needed to put in their email address. The only difference is that in the past you didn't need to put in the guest's email address until you were ready to download the ticket. ( a friend went with me to LIVE GENIC tour) unfortunately this tour is a special case where they changed procedure.

We still don't know if they will implement a resell system like at the Okinawa lives.

And yeah, it is silly if they would enforce in that situation, especially with the amount of people attending. It seems like a lot of work.

lfe. 22nd November 2017 06:21 AM

^ I get the feeling that security check will be the same. As you said, it would be a lot of work and its a dome event. To do a secure check of all the attendees, the 2 hour window between opening doors and the start of the concert wouldn't be enough time no matter how many entry points or ticket checkers they have. Also, the tickebo warnings of resale and ID check with drivers license or passport seems to be listed for every past Namie event on tickebo, so it seems to be an illusion of heightened security while it is pretty standard. And lastly, thank you for the information about your LIVE GENIC tickets. With that being said, my e-mail address was never registered for my LIVE STYLE 2016-2017 tickets. A mutual friend bought me and my friend our tickets through resale on ticketcamp. He just forwarded the QR codes to my friend. He may have registered my friend's e-mail address when he downloaded the tickets, but he didn't know my e-mail address and I went through with no problems when I checked in my ticket. They also never asked for ID, they just scanned my QR code and it was fine. I think it will be okay.


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