the back of the "E=MC²" case is kinda risque. she's topless, and you can see most of her side bewb haha.

Yeah, my friend met her a few years ago and said she was a very sweet person. And I do think that she's honest about herself as well. I know I love her.

And I agree that the thread's title should be changed since this will definitely end up expanding beyond just this specific album, as it has at parts already.

MC was on American Idol. Anyone watch it? It's gonna air here in a few minutes, but I've already seen it on Daily Motion. Pretty boring, most of the contestants chose really boring choices like "Without You" and "Hero". So predictable. Why didn't anyone do "It's Like That"? I would've killed to hear David sing "Them chickens is ash and I'm lotion"!

Why would someone trying to showcase good vocals sing It's Like That? :laugh I think the song choices were good though. Here are my opinions on the performances:

When You Believe: Fantastic and in his own style. Loved it.
Without You: Extremely disappointing and cookie-cutter version of the song. Blah...
Vanishing: Best performance of the night.
Hero: Original cover, but the vocals were just alright.
Forever: Very good performance.
Always Be My Baby: Original cover that was entertaining, even if the beginning was a little dull.
I Don't Wanna Cry: Yeah, umm...no.

Anyways, so I bought the album today as well as the Adventures of Mimi Deluxe 3-disc edition at Circuit City. I'm so glad because I got the last copy of Adventures since it was only 11.99. I can't wait to watch it :D

I was just kidding, but really I was so bored with all the ballads. I would've liked to have seen songs like "Vision Of Love," "Someday," "Emotions," "Make It Happen," "Dreamlover, "Anytime You Need A Friend," "Fantasy," "Honey," "Heartbreaker," or "Shake It Off". Anything a bit more up-tempo would've been nice.

I thought you might have been kidding, but I wasn't entirely sure, haha.

I definitely agree with you about those songs though. It would have been much more interesting if they sang songs like those. And as interesting and different the Always Be My Baby cover was, I would have rather heard someone like Sayesha sing it to the original melody. Her voice and vocal trills could have made it her own even without a complete change in arrangement.

Mariah is going to perform on the AI result show, right?

I hope she performs a song off E=MC, but hopefully not Touch My Body.

Yeah, she'll be performing on the results show. I'm not sure what she's singing, but I would think it will be Bye Bye.

^ oh yeah, I forgot it's going to be the second single. probably the worst track off E=MC too :o

I chanced the thread title.

Has anyone seen her two new Macy's commercials? I think they're both cute.

I guess I'll be checking out her AI appearance on YouTube. Looking at that song list, I hope the contestant did a good job on Always Be My Baby (my favourite).

I like Bye Bye...but of course, the songs on this CD don't seem to be quite as catchy as her last album; they take quite a few listens to stick to you, but they are nevertheless good.

Yepp, she did, and her renegade backup singer was in full force. Whoever it was screamed over top of Mariah during the same part that he/she did on Oprah, and MC seriously gave him/her a death look. Hilarious. I'm counting the days until we see MC with a new set of singers, lol.

Also, MC apparently debuted with 154,000 for the first DAY, and that's not even counting all retailers. Some places are predicting 600k for the first week!:

Yeah, she sang Bye Bye. I didn't care for the song or her singing. =(. It just sounded off.

I love how you all tell me she sang me she sang Bye Bye when all three of us Hawaii people watched it at the exact same time :laugh

And I noticed her death look to the backup singer. I'm pretty sure it was the girl on the end toward the center of the stage. And there's no way she'll replace them all because that guy (I think his name is Terell or something has been with her for a LONG time as a backup singer).

And yeah, congrats to Mariah on the sales. I know I bought my copy. She'll obviously get number one this week. Bye Bye's really growing on me too. The entire album is just one big grower.

His name is Trey Lorenz and he's been with her since the very beginning of her career in 1990. You guys might remember him from the "I'll Be There" live performance on MTV Unplugged which became a single.

I think Mariah stuff in general seems to really grow on people. That's probably why this album might have the largest first-week sales of her career. She's always had huge-selling albums, but they never had very big first weeks because they were growers. Most of her stuff is like that for me too, seems okay at first and after a few weeks I am in love. I remember the underwhelmed feelings that I (and the world) had for TMB, but now it's such a huge hit and I love it too.

Trey, that's what it was. I knew it started with a "T" and was that kind of name. Anyways, yeah, that's why there's no way she would ever replace him. They've been together so long that it just isn't going to happen. The girls though I'm not too sure about. I'm pretty sure she was giving one of them the dirty looks. I think it was a lot more blatantly obvious on her Oprah performance than on Idol though. I seriously lol'ed at the Oprah one.

OK, totally off-topic, but I was looking at old pictures of Mariah and I am shocked how much she's changed. One of the rare cases I think plastic surgery was a good idea:

Before:


After:

Wow, she's really changed a LOT. :tired

Nah, I don't think she had plastic surgery, maybe breast implants. Ahaha, because they look HUGE now.

I know she's had her teeth done and at least her nose. She has this massive bulbous nose at the beginning of her career. Whoever her plastic surgeon is, snaps for him.

I think she's probably had her nose and breasts done, but I'm not a plastic surgery expert. I'm not a fan of her current blonde hair though. The best she's looked to me was around Daydream, when she no longer had those curls but was still dark-haired.

I honestly think she looks the best she ever has in her entire career right now. So skinny, great bewbs (lol) and gorgeous hair.

I bought E=MC2 today :D, I got the limited edition, it came with in a cardboard casing like Janet's Discipline LTD, and it came with a limited Ipod face cover. Which looks tacky lmao.

As for plastic surgery, I really don't think she'd get her nose done. That would greatly affect her breathing passages and as a serious singer, could affect her voice...I just don't think she'd do something so silly.

Have you seen her when she first first first came out? Her nose is nothing like it is now. And I know she got some dental work done too, in addition to her boobs.

I'm also not quick to pass plastic surgery judgments based on pictures of someone when they were 18-20 vs. 38. Her face is also a lot fuller in general than it used to be. Different angles, lighting, etc. all make a huge difference in appearance.

Actually a lot of people were speculating about her plastic surgery around 1993, and then again in 1997. Her entire face changed after the "Emotions" album, and then again near "Butterfly"'s release. And of course her boob job before "Rainbow."

MariahDaily.com has the numbers for E=MC2 coming in, and with 46.81% of retailers reporting, the album has sold 232,726. Since I can't do simple math, I have no idea what that means (lol) but I'm guessing it'll be 500k+. For comparison, The Emancipation of Mimi sold 404,000 copies in its first week.

Looks like I was wrong - I really thought it would do great but wouldn't beat Mimi's first week sales. I guess people are definitely back to loving Mariah.

It could be that her songs are just really infectious. XD

All the artists nowadays seem to want to work with the same people :[

^ i think E=MC^2 is just what people want from her. a lot of people liked her last album and this new one is essentially just more of the same. even the name implies that, "emancipation of the mimi to the power of 2" :yes

Mariah isn't really an innovator, but she has found her genre and people enjoy it so I guess she does not feel the need to experiment but rather does what she likes and what people want from her.

I think she was quite innovative in the 1990s, but not today. In the 90s she pretty much paved the way for pop/R&B singers to collaborate with hardcore rappers, especially with "Fantasy" in 1995 with Ol' Dirty Bastard. She really helped push that combination to the forefront of music. Today I think she's very comfortable with her style of music, although it almost seems like it keeps getting more and more ghetto with each album, lol.

In other news, looks like MC is doing well for herself in the UK, where she hasn't always had much success:

^ you're right, she's the one who invented the whole guest rappers on mainstream pop&Rnb.

but I think Mariah found her own style with her second album, it was her idea to work with C&C Music Factory on Emotions. and I think after like Daydream every album has been essentially the same with just updated with more current sound, except she gradually dropped the non-RnB ballad type of songs.
for example "Always Be My Baby" from Daydream is sorta like the '95 version of "We Belong Together" from '05.

Source IDJ

Source: Billboard

^That is so awesome for her. Good job, Mimi. Hopefully she can hold the title for highest first week sales for a while!

I'm really happy about the sales, this album deserves it. Of all the albums from big names in pop that have been released lately, Mariah's is the best. That new live DVD set that I impulse-bought at the same time I got "E=MC2" is pretty nice, too.

In fact, this album has made me remember how much I used to like her, and I've been having some great nostalgic moments listening to all of her old albums. :)

^Me too, I always forget her for a while, but whenever a new album comes out I listen to her whole catalogue again. I almost forgot how amazing her older stuff is.

Source: Billboard & MariahDaily

Migrate is on Billboard already? It seems like an obvious choice for the third single, people seem to love it so, but I don't think I remember hearing anything official about plans after Bye Bye.

She said in an interview that Love Story was likely the next single. But I think it's a better choice to do an upbeat song.

Source: MariahDaily

^OK, that is a true miss diva queen right there. She gets the Empire State Building lit up for her. Wow.

Mariah currently has 3 songs on the Hot 100. "Touch My Body" is still at #5, "Bye Bye" just debuted at #23, and "Migrate" is at #92.

Sneek Peek of Bye Bye video!
http://youtube.com/watch?v=Cpdi8BXPz5E

Damn voltron, you rock at bringing Mariah news to this thread :D

If you want to be really up to date, take a visit to http://www.mariahdaily.com/news.shtml . It's got all the latest MC news.

I already had it bookmarked weeks ago :laugh

lol it's my home page.

Mariah sang on GMA this morning, and it had some interesting results. Her backing track messed up during the first verse of "Touch My Body", and she got really pissed. Then it started messing up again during the end and she started singing "Stop singing my part, baby" but she was totally professional about it. Her perfs of "I'm That Chick" and "Bye, Bye" were amazing though. Here's the link that has pictures and the 3 videos:

http://community.livejournal.com/ohn...ead=2735278205

♪ Stop singing my part now baby ♪

:laugh

OH MY FREAKING GOD! That was the most hilarious performance of any song that I've ever seen.

LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL at the performance!
Best TMB performance ever!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nEnr5EKEjbw

Video of the Empire State Building being lit up for MC. According to Mariah Daily, E=MC^2 should also take #1 this week. With 45.86% of the total counted, Mariah has 98,239. I can't do math, but that's 200k in the second week, right? Sorry Ashlee, lol.

I guess Ashlee's outta their outta their heads. LOL SORRY XD

Anyway, congrats to Mariah! This album is starting to grow on me, albeit a little slowly...I'm starting to enjoy more and more tracks, and I'm happily surprised at the debut of Bye Bye on the Hot 100

Me too. #23 is a huge debut, I'm shocked.

great news and congratulation
i thought madonna is the most succesful female artist

It's debatable. But Mariah is definitely the most successful in the United States.

the best selling female artist of the world is either Madonna or Celine Dion, most likely Madonna since Celine isn't as popular among younger people she once was.
but it's hard to determine since a lot of sources are biased and the sales info isn't always accurate.

Mariah is the most popular in the US, but she lost a lot of popularity especially in Europe on butterfly to charmbracelet, until she made a huge comeback with EOM. she didn't do that well in the US either with butterfly to charmbracelet, her career in the US was going downhill until EOM.

Ohh IC...

what about E=MC2?
i think this album not very success like EOM

E=MC^2 is a hit already, but I don't think it'll match EOM in terms of success.

mostly because of E=MC^2 lacks the really strong single material EOM had, and they aren't really helping the situation with the single choices so far.

Tentative sales for this week are 175,899, with Mariah coming in at #1 again. Congrats, MC :D

Actually, Mariah maintained her popularity in the States until 2001, because Butterfly and Rainbow were both very popular and successful albums. They both did over 10 million worldwide, and they both had two #1 singles. But I think I was wrong, Mariah isn't the biggest-selling female artist in the States. She surpassed Madonna with TEOM in 2005, but she is still slightly behind Barbara Streisand. Maybe she can take her over with E=MC2!

Mimi finally left a new voicemail mail to her fans at her official site (CLICK HERE to listen to it). Here's a transcript:
Such a diva.

I heard the album today. It's pretty good, nowhere near as good as TEOM though. Does anyone know where I could get scans/promos of that alum and E=MC2?

:)

true, each mariah album has sold several millions. but she was losing steam fast before EOM turned it around. her drops in sales are way bigger than just the general decrease in album sales in the industry.

butterfly sold only half of what the previous studio album sold, there was a notable drop in sales from butterfly to rainbow (especially on worldwide sales). and her career hit a low point on charmbracelet (didn't even chart in the top ten other than in Japan & US) which only sold like a 1/4 what the previous studio album sold. I'm leaving out glitter lol

*points to message transcript*

I love her and her constant use of the phrase "pink yet lavender." :P

True, but I think the biggest drop was from Rainbow to Glitter. Her popularity took such a nosedive. But E=MC2 should pass Glitter's total sales sometime soon :D I'm guessing by the end of next month!

I'm def digging E=MC2 over TEOM any given day

I LOVE migrate is so damn catchy
its been stuck in my head for days now

Looks like we were wrong, MC sold 182k this week, not 176k :D:

MC will be on the View soon!:

Now I'm reading that Mariah got married to Nick Cannon and that a family member of his has confirmed it. I really thought she'd have a big princess-y wedding if she ever married again, not a surprise wedding in the Bahamas.

I dunno, I read that it's a publicity stunt for her new song which features Nick in the video as her lover.

Source: MariahDaily

ummmm i havn't been up to date in this thread and cant really be bothered checking through 14 pages
soo...
yeaaa
ummm
she got married last week or a few days ago to this person who was 11 years younger than her =\
crazy...
it....was a marriage in secret
here is the news report:

"Mariah Carey reportedly married Nick Cannon - an actor and rapper 11 years her junior - in the Bahamas this week after a whirlwind romance.

The New York Post says the pair wed in a secret ceremony attended by family and friends at Carey's house on the island of Eleuthera. The report cited a source close to Carey.

Latina.com, the website for Latina magazine, cited a source close to Cannon as saying the nuptials took place on Wednesday.

In Touch Weekly said Cannon designed a $US2.5 million ($2.6 million) ring for his new bride.

The reports could not be immediately confirmed.

Representatives for Carey and Cannon did not return emails or phone calls for comment.

- Reuters"

I won't believe the marriage until I hear more from an official source. They're also reporting she didn't have a pre-nup and she is too smart for that. Plus, Mark Sudack has been her man for a while now...they just adopted a dog together not that long ago.

In a recent interview she spoke about one of her label/management team buying her a new ring for the success of the album.

I have a feeling this might be something to do with that Ashton Kutcher show where celebs trick the paparazzi. Or just has to do with the video they're working on for "Love Story."

Besides, it's just trashy places reporting it...Perez, E! News, the New York Post, etc.

no not really, its not trashy places reporting it...
its ummm......one of the biggest companies in australia
bigpond's home page...
they provide like...home fone, mobiles, internet etc xD
i doubt they'd be making up random rumours

I wont believe anything about the marriage until Mariah Carey herself confirm it or an official statement comes from her record company. Maybe it is just a gimmick to promote her bye bye single as nick is featured in the video. Right?

hmm migrate could not pass 100k...

Migrate's not even a single though. It's pretty impressive for an album cut to do that well.

Bye Bye Video:
http://www.comcast.net/music/mariahc...rOGPzk1kOzOyy/

dissapointing video...

This week's sales will likely be around 87,068, and E=MC2 will come it at #2.

I dont like the concept of the bye bye video. But, i did like Mariah wearing that small white shirt with that jean skirt. She looks so sincere and serious. But i hate the part when she was writing something and "pretend" to cry?? We watched already before during the Mariah's Theme cant take that away video. :(

^ I thought the same thing about Can't Take That Away, but that video wasn't really released in the US, so it's new to most people.

According to billboard, this week's sales were actually about 95,000

People Wedding Cover

Looks like it's true. Well, Mariah does strike me as someone who would believe in meeting your true love and marrying him after six weeks. I just hope the "no pre-nup" report was wrong.

Can't Take That Away's video and physical single were released in the US. I remember that video very vividly on VH1 when I was younger cuz even then I thought it was so corny :laugh

It was released, but I meant it never hit it off. The whole single was kinda ignored and overshadowed by heartbreaker.

Yeah, it was a shame because I really liked the other A-side, "Crybaby".

cant take that away/ crybaby cant get the enough budget for promotion because Tommy Mottola didnt want to promote it. (This is what i read before). Actually this song is not really radio-friendly as well as crybaby. But the single cover (with lots of green plants behind) is so pretty!! Mariah looks like a fairy. lol

I loved "Crybaby". The video was one of my favorites, too.

Eh.....I'm disgusted by her marriage to Nick Cannon. :dead2 I mean, C'mon. They don't even look right with each other plus, they hadn't even dated that long. What was she thinking? Ugh, yet another future divorced couple. :rolleyes

This whole thing is reminding me a lot of Ashton/Demi. Hopefully they'll last as long.

dang her body change!! it looks good too

No idea at all about their future. I still thinking this marriage is fake. Anyway, good luck to MC.

That video really cute, just the song i dont play lot. I more to her rnb or ballad types. MC love the lying in bed part, she performed in her rainbow tour.

I loved that! She did "Babydoll" (one of my favorites of all-time) that way and it was sooo cute. Too bad she lip-synched in the one video I could find.

According to Hits Double Daily, Mariah is #4 this week with 88,498 albums sold. That's a 2% increase over last week! For comparison, she beat Madonna, who is just in her 2nd week. She's also ahead of Leona, and is the highest non-debut album this week :D

yay Mariah! she's nearly reached a million already, hasn't she?

After this week she'll be at like 830k.

Mariah's in the new issue of VIBE! Here are a few scans:





The rest can be found here http://www.mariahdaily.com/infozone/magazines/2008/vibe/ :D

She looks AMAZING :O

The cover looks terrible. I'm tried of seeing her naked. :grumpy Gurl, your 38 years-old. Put some clothes on! She looks like one of the GTA girls. Ugh, when will she stop thinking she's 20?!

You're obviously not a believer in the "if you've got it, flaunt it" idea :laugh