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Amai Yume 9th June 2008 06:44 AM

Even if I'm the only one who thinks Kumi's apology was sincere and from her heart, I hope she will still keep moving strong even though people are saying things about her. Although I haven't heard any of the MOON previews, I can probably say people are just being mean about it now. Any Britney Spears' comeback was whack! Gimme More was an excellent song but everything was kinda half-assed. Besides, Kuu shouldn't even be in this position. This "scandal" was people overreacting way to hard to something that wasn't even said in a harsh way. I hope Kuu shuts up everyone and gets number one with this single. Just cause people on the forums aren't feeling the songs, doesn't mean people in Japan won't eat it up. Or at least I hope she takes the number 2 spot. Kuu FOREVER!

And I'm sorry but Ai's single WAS not anything deserved great sales. Rocket Power = weak; One Time = weak; B-side = weak. Overall package = weak single. Ai can do much better and has done much better. The PV was WHACK too so honestly, she needed to step her game up and didn't. I agree that the single flopping is not a big deal and doesn't really deserve good sales, even if I wanted her to get them.

Luv ~Venus~ 9th June 2008 06:45 AM

^It's Kuu's fault in the first place for saying what she said. True they overreacted but if Kuu hadn't said what she said then they wouldn't have been pissed off at her. MOON proved that Kuu hasn't improved herself.

It's okay to say you want her to have another #1 but outright saying she deserves it while dissin' the other two releases by saying that they don't deserve isn't fair at all. =/

KarenPang 9th June 2008 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Amai Yume (Post 1495480)
They shoulda went all out 4 Hot Wave style with this single! 4 PVs, all the songs have tie-ins, ya know, the works. There needs to be a buttload of performances, everything.

The songs on 4 Hot Wave were all exceptional though and I haven't heard any yet. Still, the right promotion can still help.

:yes

to me honestly the B sides in MOON are much stronger than the A sides & they definitely should have received their own PVs . I think it will be fun to see a PV for Lady Go ! & Once Again cos to me the PVs for Moon Crying & That Ain't Cool are NOT cool at all to begin with .

Reg Ai's Rocket Sneaker / One x Time - it's not the best that she has come up to date but I don't think it's that bad that it HAS to exit the top200 so fast isn't it ? :no

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I want Kuu to get 1 also. It's hard to believe that she has only had four number 1's.
me too , then again she's like Ken Hirai . He has been around for 13 years (aka even longer than Koda & ayumi) , put out 29 singles but yet he only has 4 no.1 just like Koda

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Originally Posted by Luv ~Venus~ (Post 1495527)
It's okay to say you want her to have another #1 but outright saying she deserves it while dissin' the other two releases by saying that they don't deserve isn't fair at all. =/

agree with you on that one Shanny

Amai Yume 9th June 2008 06:49 AM

I'm not dissing the other two artists. I'm not saying that their singles suck or anything cause I haven't even heard them. All I'm saying is that I would love Kuu to get the number one too. I mean I haven't even heard Kuu's songs so I"m not saying her best sales ever now. I'm saying that I would like Kuu to have another; I never said she "Deserved" anything.

I'm sorry if I offended anyone with my comments cause that was definitely not my intention. Just lately it feels like there are soooo many people dissing Kuu and not very constructively.

Luv ~Venus~ 9th June 2008 06:57 AM

^No, no, no. :( I'm not saying that u said that either but it sounds like ur blaming people for getting mad at what Kuu said instead of blaming Kuu for what she said. I agree that they did overract to what she was saying as something so small wouldn't even hit American TV if it was said by an American but I know that by her saying that that the Japanese don't take kind to people speaking negatively about the birthing problems of a 35+ year-old Japanese woman. I apologize if i sounded as if i was mad at u because I wasn't. :no

Amai Yume 9th June 2008 07:02 AM

Yeah, Kuu is definitely not blameless for the situation. I mean she said it and whether or not people overreacted, she said it and thus had to deal with the consequences. But I do honestly believe that people overreacted to her saying that and then when she apologized, people just didn't let it go. Of course, I don't know just how much that comment could hurt someone but I honestly do believe that she didn't mean to make anyone feel bad so people don't have to attack her.

And of course, I'm not mad at you either Luv! You're still one of my favs! :)

dddaiyamondo 9th June 2008 07:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Zachery! (Post 1495400)
Ai's single sucked. It should be out of the top 200 already.

Ku's single was good, it should get #1.

neither GLAY or UVERworld deserve #1 or #2.

and yeah, i can't recall who said it, but if i was in Ku's position, i'd give a fake sounding apology too, because i wouldn't be able to believe i'm giving an apology for something so damn stupid and ridiculous.

Seriously, the "deserve" or "doesn't deserve" talk should be banned from the Oricon thread. No one really deserves or doesn't deserve success, and it's all just what songs you like.

That said, Kuu's single is terrible, it's the only single I haven't liked from her in the past few years besides "Anytime". Hope it flops so she gets the picture that I want something like "FREAKY" or "BUT" or even "Under" again.

CoriKaru 9th June 2008 08:30 AM

"Banned"? I kind of think it would be ridiculous if no one was able to speak their own OPINION/MIND as to who they think deserves what. It shouldn't bother anyone either. It's no different than one person being a fan of a certain artist and someone of another artist and wanting them to succeed. It's just conveyed in a different manner using different words. Same Thing.

And I actually do believe there are certain people who do deserve "Success" in general and certain others who do not. It's called being "Talented" and "Not Talented". There's a handful of those types of people in America ahora mismo.

Amai Yume 9th June 2008 08:41 AM

I agree CoriKaru. I mean of course saying someone is talented is only someone's opinion but saying they deserve success you believe the single is good or something isn't something that is soooo bad. Of course just saying I think this person should get number one just because they are this person doesn't really make an argument. It's merely an expression of opinion :yes

njanjayrp 9th June 2008 08:50 AM

I don't think MOON is better than 4 hot wave nor even FREAKY (which was kinda like a bunch of b-side material put together), Lady Go!! sounds better than both Moon and the ultra stupid Fergie song, imo. I think that since BUT Ku hasn't been making the best music (sure Ai no uta was nice) but It doesn't seem she placed much effort into her singles lately. I don't care if she gets #1 or no it's not like she had that many. The obvious thing is, that she passed her prime, and will probably face the same sales Otsuka and BoA are facing now ^^, and it's only the matter of time. Ku was a "trend" which lasted for a year or two, she got a lot of attention and all she had to do is keep the fans, and you can't do that with the pop music she's making.

dddaiyamondo 9th June 2008 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by CoriKaru (Post 1495605)
"Banned"? I kind of think it would be ridiculous if no one was able to speak their own OPINION/MIND as to who they think deserves what. It shouldn't bother anyone either. It's no different than one person being a fan of a certain artist and someone of another artist and wanting them to succeed. It's just conveyed in a different manner using different words. Same Thing.

Well, maybe saying someone deserves success is okay, but saying someone does NOT deserve success should not be said in this thread. That's how the Oricon thread is at JPM and I kind of agree with them. That kind of talk does not really lend itself well to the conversation and just causes drama.

TITANIC 9th June 2008 09:02 AM

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Originally Posted by AyuGAME (Post 1494781)
YAY!!! MINMI BEAT KAT-TUN!!! its just only one day, but i feel happy (>_<)

>.<
i'm supporting KAT-TUN
anyway they will get #1 weekly and i'm happy

TITANIC 9th June 2008 11:31 AM

*1 *2 *2 *1 *1 *1→*1 GReeeeN 「キセキ」
*4 17 16 11 12 *5/*2 Aqua Timez 「虹」
-- *1 *1 *2 *2 *2\*3 タッキー&翼 「恋詩-コイウタ-/PROGRESS」
-- *5 *4 *3 *3 *4→*4 清水翔太 「「アイシテル」」
*5 14 13 12 11 *6/*5 Hey!Say!JUMP 「Dreams come true」
-- *4 *3 *4 *6 *3\*6 LM.C 「88」
*2 12 12 10 10 *7→*7 ORANGE RANGE 「O2」
*7 21 21 17 17 13↑*8 羞恥心 「羞恥心」
-- *3 *5 *6 *5 10/*9 BoA 「Vivid(Kissing you/Sparkling/Joyful Smile)」
-- *6 *6 *5 *7 *8\10 柴咲コウ 「よくある話~喪服の女編~」
-- 11 10 *8 *4 11→11 JYONGRI 「Unchanging Love~君がいれば~」
*6 18 19 18 14 14/12 宇多田ヒカル 「Prisoner Of Love」
-- *7 *7 *9 *9 *9↓13 米米CLUB 「つ・よ・が・り」
-- *9 *8 *7 *8 12\14 トータス松本 「涙をとどけて」
*8 15 17 16 16 16/15 KAT-TUN 「DON'T U EVER STOP」
*3 16 15 14 15 15\16 V6 「蝶」
*9 23 23 20 19 18/17 竹内まりや 「幸せのものさし/うれしくてさみしい日(Your Wedding Day)」
-- 25 25 27 13 17\18 Hi-Fi CAMP 「キズナ」
12 34 29 24 23 23↑19 Micro 「踊れ」
-- *8 11 13 18 19/20 秦 基博 「虹が消えた日」
10 28 30 23 25 24/21 キマグレン 「LIFE」
-- 13 14 21 22 22→22 ON/OFF 「ふたつの鼓動と赤い罪」
-- 10 *9 15 21 20\23 FLOW 「WORD OF THE VOICE」
16 36 35 30 27 26/24 キャラメル 「ウッーウッーウマウマ(゜∀゜)」
15 31 27 25 31 29↑25 堺正章 「忘れもの」
11 26 24 22 20 21↓26 シェリル・ノーム starring May'n 「ダイアモンド クレバス/射手座☆午後九時Don't be late」
14 47 38 39 32 27→27 大塚愛 「ロケットスニーカー/One×Time」
18 48 49 34 37 25\28 NEWS 「SUMMER TIME」
19 43 39 32 30 30/29 絢香 「おかえり」
21 42 42 29 28 31/30 ジェロ 「海雪」
- *3 *2 *2 *2 *1→*1 MINMI 「MINMI BEST 2002-2008」
-- *1 *1 *1 *1 *2→*2 KAT-TUN 「KAT-TUN Ⅲ QUEEN OF PIRATES」
-- *2 *3 *3 *3 *3→*3 菅野よう子 「MBS・TBS系テレビ・アニメーション マクロスF(フロンティア)O.S.T.Ⅰ(娘フロ。)」
*1 *6 *7 *6 *4 *4→*4 Superfly 「Superfly」
*3 *8 *6 *5 *5 *5→*5 DOUBLE 「THE BEST COLLABORATIONS」
*2 11 10 *7 *7 *7/*6 mihimaru GT 「mihimarise」
-- *4 *4 *4 *6 *6\*7 BEAT CRUSADERS 「popdod」
-- 15 14 12 10 *8→*8 ヘイリー 「純~21歳の出会い」
*4 20 17 15 15 *9→*9 宇多田ヒカル 「HEART STATION」
*5 17 16 13 13 11/10 エリオット・ヤミン 「ウエイト・フォー・ユー」
-- 14 *9 10 12 10\11 ET-KING 「SOUL LAUNDRY」
-- 13 11 16 16 12→12 川嶋あい 「Single Best」
-- *7 *8 11 14 13→13 ウィーザー 「ザ・レッド・アルバム」
10 24 19 19 20 19↑14 マドンナ 「ハード・キャンディー」
-- 12 15 17 17 15→15 ザ・ミュージック 「ストレングス・イン・ナンバーズ」
*7 25 26 18 19 17/16 詩音 「Candy Girl」
-- *9 12 14 18 16\17 locofrank 「BRAND-NEW OLD-STYLE」
-- 10 13 *9 11 14↓18 DEEN 「DEEN PERFECT SINGLES+」
*8 30 22 20 23 20/19 V.A. 「姫トラ・ベスト」
*6 23 21 21 21 21/20 アッシャー 「ヒア・アイ・スタンド」
20 41 34 36 37 24/21 Perfume 「GAME」
12 32 30 27 28 23/22 EXILE 「EXILE CATCHY BEST」
-- *5 *5 *8 *8 18↓23 リュ・シウォン 「蒼天の愛」
*9 27 24 25 27 27/24 レディオヘッド 「ザ・ベスト・オブ」
-- 16 18 22 29 25→25 LOW IQ 01 「MASTER LOW FOR...」
23 48 38 43 35 30↑26 V.A. 「R35 Sweet J-Ballads」
-- -- -- 24 25 28/27 LGYankees&GIPPER 「1-One-」
35 -- 47 48 48 40↑28 GReeeeN 「あっ、ども。はじめまして。」
-- -- -- -- *9 22↓29 ポール・ポッツ 「ワン・チャンス」
11 33 31 29 42 33/30 V.A. 「First Kiss-15 Special Love Songs」

albums
x->1->1->1->1->2->2 - KAT-TUN 65,445 + 37,213 + 13,298 + 6,762 + 7,811 + 6,034 (X1.7)=232,157
x->3->2->2->2->1->1 - MINMI - 9,148 + 10,179 + 7,337 + 6,455 + 8,109 + 9,192 (X1.7) = 85,714
x->2->3->3->3->3->3 - Kanno Youko - 10,304 + 9,235 + 5,132 + 4,542 + 6,775 + 5,138 (X1.7)= 69,914

Singles

1->2->2->1->1->1->1 - GReeeeN - 4,763 + 4,918 + 4,758 + 3,923 + 4,029 + 7593 + 11,045 (X1.75)= 71,801
x->1->1->2->2->2->2 - Tackey & Tsubasa - 12,887 + 8,033 + 3,120 + 3,134 + 2,741 + 8,524 (X1.75)=67,268

sighh.. GReeeN outsold Tacky&tsubasa

KarenPang 9th June 2008 12:42 PM

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Originally Posted by riozz (Post 1495710)

Singles

1->2->2->1->1->1->1 - GReeeeN - 4,763 + 4,918 + 4,758 + 3,923 + 4,029 + 7593 + 11,045 (X1.75)= 71,801

x->1->1->2->2->2->2 - Tackey & Tsubasa - 12,887 + 8,033 + 3,120 + 3,134 + 2,741 + 8,524 (X1.75)=67,268

sighh.. GReeeN outsold Tacky&tsubasa

:( :( :( :( :( :(

Zachery! 9th June 2008 01:01 PM

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Originally Posted by dddaiyamondo (Post 1495572)
Seriously, the "deserve" or "doesn't deserve" talk should be banned from the Oricon thread. No one really deserves or doesn't deserve success, and it's all just what songs you like.

That said, Kuu's single is terrible, it's the only single I haven't liked from her in the past few years besides "Anytime". Hope it flops so she gets the picture that I want something like "FREAKY" or "BUT" or even "Under" again.

It's not even my personal music preference.

I think Kumi worked hard, so she deserves the number 1, and I think her apology was unnecesary so it doesn't really matter if it was sincere. Yeah, she worked her ass off extra for absolutely nothing, in my book.

And I didn't say i hope they don't succeed. I said i hope they don't get number 1. They don't deserve it as much as Kumi.

You can still get #2 or #3 and be succesful. Look at some Ayu releases... "Boys & Girl" got #2 in it's first week, so did "A BEST".

Or "Soba ni Iru ne" by Thelma Aoyama which almost didn't get number 1 at all.

Look at "Def Tech".

Who is to say that the number 1 position means success?
It's just a status thing that I think Kumi deserves.

ayumisrael 9th June 2008 01:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Zachery! (Post 1495755)
It's not even my personal music preference.

I think Kumi worked hard, so she deserves the number 1, and I think her apology was unnecesary so it doesn't really matter if it was sincere. Yeah, she worked her ass off extra for absolutely nothing, in my book.

And I didn't say i hope they don't succeed. I said i hope they don't get number 1. They don't deserve it as much as Kumi.

You can still get #2 or #3 and be succesful. Look at some Ayu releases... "Boys & Girl" got #2 in it's first week, so did "A BEST".

Or "Soba ni Iru ne" by Thelma Aoyama which almost didn't get number 1 at all.

Look at "Def Tech".

Who is to say that the number 1 position means success?
It's just a status thing that I think Kumi deserves.

But Boys & Girls and A BEST got #1 on their 2nd week so they are still #1 hits (like releases that get #1 on the first week) but on those years the #1 spot really said something.

Today you see a lot of releases getting #1 with ridiculous numbers so for the recent years I think that positions aren't hot as they used to but of course still happy and good and treated as #1, #2, or #3 hits they releases get them.

Zachery! 9th June 2008 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 1495772)
But Boys & Girls and A BEST got #1 on their 2nd week so they are still #1 hits (like releases that get #1 on the first week) but on those years the #1 spot really said something.

Today you see a lot of releases getting #1 with ridiculous numbers so for the recent years I think that positions aren't hot as they used to but of course still happy and good and treated as #1, #2, or #3 hits they releases get them.

For all I care MOON can go up to number 1 then fall off the top 200 the next week. As long as it gets there.

Those others singles can stay in the top 10 for 5765475 years, for all I care.

Cuz Kumi deserves a number 1 single.

ayumisrael 9th June 2008 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Zachery! (Post 1495824)
For all I care MOON can go up to number 1 then fall off the top 200 the next week. As long as it gets there.

Those others singles can stay in the top 10 for 5765475 years, for all I care.

Cuz Kumi deserves a number 1 single.

:yes

Luv ~Venus~ 9th June 2008 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Zachery! (Post 1495755)
It's not even my personal music preference.

I think Kumi worked hard, so she deserves the number 1, and I think her apology was unnecesary so it doesn't really matter if it was sincere. Yeah, she worked her ass off extra for absolutely nothing, in my book.

And I didn't say i hope they don't succeed. I said i hope they don't get number 1. They don't deserve it as much as Kumi.

You can still get #2 or #3 and be succesful. Look at some Ayu releases... "Boys & Girl" got #2 in it's first week, so did "A BEST".

Or "Soba ni Iru ne" by Thelma Aoyama which almost didn't get number 1 at all.

Look at "Def Tech".

Who is to say that the number 1 position means success?
It's just a status thing that I think Kumi deserves.

Again, what makes u think she deserves it more than GLAY and Uverworld? :irked What makes u think she worked harder than GLAY or Uverworld? :irked

If you think getting #2 and #3 is so good the why couldn't you have just said I hope she gets into the top 3? :mischief Seems to me you don't think #2 or #3 spot is that good at all. Your not saying you hope she gets #1, your saying she deserves to get it while the other two don't simply because you think she worked harder than them?! How did u come up with assumption? GLAY has been in the biz for over ten years ans still keeping the fans interested in them with GREAT music and such while it the opposite for Kuu. If anything, THEY are the ones that work harder than Kuu. :rolleyes

As for Uver, sure they are a newbie band but they have struggled just like Kuu to get to the top. Kuu not getting a #1 single wouldn't be as exciting as Uver getting their 1st #1 since it's basically hard for a debuting/newbie artists to get a #1. Why is it that some Kuu fans think, wuteva she releases should go to the top over other releases? She isn't the only one who has struggled to get success. Tbh, I don't think her little struggle story was all that sad. I think Ayu struggled more than Kuu. Ayu actually had a troublesome life before and after she was successful unlike Kuu who just cried because AVEX thought she was fat at the time. So all thins Kuu deserves blahblahblah because she blahblahblah needs to be put to a rest .

criminal 9th June 2008 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Luv ~Venus~ (Post 1495986)
Ayu actually had a troublesome life before and after she was successful unlike Kuu who just cried because AVEX thought she was fat at the time.

You may be irritated right now, but you know it wasn't like that.

Luv ~Venus~ 9th June 2008 06:02 PM

^Well, yea (:laugh) but my point to me saying is that they were others who struggled more than Kuu and even after they made it big they still continued to struggle.

KaoriNeko 9th June 2008 06:08 PM

Do ya'll actually think that the public overreacted to what Kuu said? If you didn't know, infertility is a big problem in Japan, so hearing someone famous say such a rude comment must have hurt a lot of women. It's not something that the public overreacted about, they had a good reason to be pissed at her. And her apology was total bull and then she comes out with a crap single. The only song that I can listen to all the time is Once Again, other than that, the single is pure fail. If she really wanted people to take her seriously, she would've stepped up her game and did a true apology to the public. It all seemed rehearsed and unemotional to me, Kuu cries like that at the end of every concert, so why should I believe that those tears were because she was sorry? MOON doesn't deserve a number one, end of story.

Luv ~Venus~ 9th June 2008 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by KaoriNeko (Post 1496004)
Do ya'll actually think that the public overreacted to what Kuu said? If you didn't know, infertility is a big problem in Japan, so hearing someone famous say such a rude comment must have hurt a lot of women. It's not something that the public overreacted about, they had a good reason to be pissed at her. And her apology was total bull and then she comes out with a crap single. The only song that I can listen to all the time is Once Again, other than that, the single is pure fail. If she really wanted people to take her seriously, she would've stepped up her game and did a true apology to the public. It all seemed rehearsed and unemotional to me, Kuu cries like that at the end of every concert, so why should I believe that those tears were because she was sorry? MOON doesn't deserve a number one, end of story.

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That's the same thing I stressed in my post the last time. Thank you Kay, thank you! :shughug

criminal 9th June 2008 06:17 PM

I see that people are talking about that one apology with the no make-up/no nails look. Actually, she has apologized at her tour and at almost every public appearance to ease the damage.

Zachery! 9th June 2008 06:25 PM

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Originally Posted by criminal (Post 1496013)
I see that people are talking about that one apology with the no make-up/no nails look. Actually, she has apologized at her tour and at almost every public appearance to ease the damage.

Yeah.

And you know what, the fact that GLAY has been around longer probably means they have a larger core fanbase than Kuu, which would make it so much easier for them to get number 1.

And Kuu had it A LOT harder getting to her #1 than Ayu.

Ayu's FIRST album went to number one, Kuu didn't get a number one studio album until her FIFTH, Black Cherry.

Kuu's had FOUR number 1 singles, Ayu has had THIRTY.

So don't tell me who has had it harder and who hasn't. Sure, Ayu deserves those singles more than Kuu cuz Ayu works the hardest of all, but Kuu defintely deserves for her 4 elements singles to get number 1 if any.

UVERworld isn't that newbie, either. They have been around for a while. Not a REALLY long time, but long enough to have a fanbase.

I think Kumi struggled with her career more than anyone else.

Ai's fame came by her second single, Ayu, her first album and Hikki and Namie, their first singles.

Kumi didn't start becomnig really popular until her 4th album, and she worked for it HARD.

And I understand infertility is an issue but still, they totally shunned this girl. The fact that she wants to remain a singer is admirable and for that alone she deserves the number 1. If it was me, I probably would have quit.

I mean, can you understand the pain and sorrow Kumi must have went through because of this incident? It's probably enough to make one go insane.

And for that, her will and struggle, she deserves the number 1 SO much more than anyone else.

Luv ~Venus~ 9th June 2008 06:26 PM

@criminal: But don't that make it only worse for her when she keeps bringing it up while people try to forget it? I don't actually understand why she has to keep saying it when she already apologized on tv for it. People are at her concerts to watch her perform, no to watch her cry and apologize for the same thing over and over. It gets irritating you know. LOL @ the no make-up/nail art comment.

ayumisrael 9th June 2008 06:32 PM

That's something kumi brought upon herself though =\

If the japanaese fans will really like the songs on it MOON will get #1 or at least #2.

There's nothing wrong in top 3 (depends for who and for what and the situation) anyway.

dddaiyamondo 9th June 2008 06:38 PM

Zachery!, MOON won't get #1 because the single is absolute crap. Worst single released by the big divas (Hikki, Ayu, Namie, Kuu) this year by far. It's total junk and whoever wrote that crap should be fired. I don't know what all this debate is about, Kuu doesn't deserve anything putting out total junk singles and she won't get number one, case closed.

KaoriNeko 9th June 2008 06:43 PM

^:shughug
You shouldn't deserve a single because you struggled over something that you brought upon yourself.
A number one single should have good music and MOON doesn't.

Zachery! 9th June 2008 06:44 PM

What are you talking about? And I like how you skip over Ai.

Then again, she's really lost her touch, hasn't she?

And no, "MOON", while it may nto be her best, is still a fabulous single. Certainly better than "Prisoner of Love" and "Mirrorcle World". Althoguh it is not be better than "60s70s80s".

Either way, she deserves the number 1.

She's been through a lot, is working hard with her tour, and this is a 4 a-side single.

It deserves number 1 more than any single this year.

Maybe she should get the number 1 just so she can feel better, bring up her hopes and spirits. Raise her morale. That's another reason she should get number 1. She probably really needs a pick-me-up.

Luv ~Venus~ 9th June 2008 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Zachery! (Post 1496020)
Yeah.

And you know what, the fact that GLAY has been around longer probably means they have a larger core fanbase than Kuu, which would make it so much easier for them to get number 1.

Just because GLAY has more #1 singles than Kuu doesn't mean she deserves it tho. True their fanbase is huge but that's because after all this time, they still can relate to them and their music. Kuu's music (IMO) has never been relatible or deep....just entertaining. =/ Thus why her prime came and went so fast. Her fanbase is literally disappearing which my be a sign that her music just isn't interesting anymore.

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And Kuu had it A LOT harder getting to her #1 than Ayu.

Ayu's FIRST album went to number one, Kuu didn't get a number one studio album until her FIFTH, Black Cherry.

Kuu's had FOUR number 1 singles, Ayu has had THIRTY.

So don't tell me who has had it harder and who hasn't. Sure, Ayu deserves those singles more than Kuu cuz Ayu works the hardest of all, but Kuu defintely deserves for her 4 elements singles to get number 1 if any.
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Ai's fame came by her second single, Ayu, her first album and Hikki and Namie, their first singles.
Ayu, Ai, and Hikki obvious got #1 because they wrote lyrics that related to a lot of people. Kuu's first album had some success as well at it debuted in the top 20, no, top 15. Most new artists can't even get into the top 20 like she did. It's not their fault that Kuu's music sucked. =/ Kuu just wasn't giving nothing new at the time of her debut.

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UVERworld isn't that newbie, either. They have been around for a while. Not a REALLY long time, but long enough to have a fanbase.
Okay, Kuu has 4 #1 singles while Uver has none and on top of that she has more #1 albums then they have singles and albums put together. :mischief So what's so wrong with them getting a #1 single over Kuu's craptastic comeback single?

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I think Kumi struggled with her career more than anyone else.

Kumi didn't start becomnig really popular until her 4th album, and she worked for it HARD.
Kuu was popular by her 3rd album. =/ Before that, she was known for her FFx-2 single which put her on the map.

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And I understand infertility is an issue but still, they totally shunned this girl. The fact that she wants to remain a singer is admirable and for that alone she deserves the number 1. If it was me, I probably would have quit.

I mean, can you understand the pain and sorrow Kumi must have went through because of this incident? It's probably enough to make one go insane.

And for that, her will and struggle, she deserves the number 1 SO much more than anyone else.
WTF are u talkin' about? :irked :irked :irked

You obviously don't understand what THEY went through when she said that. It was ******* obvious that AVEX wasn't going to drop her because of that incident and it was ******* obvious that Kuu wasn't going to stop singing because of that either. So saying that is she deserves #1 has not be proven. Besides, it WAS her fault for starting the whole thing. :irked Why aren't most of u getting that? :grumpy Bad conduct doesn't deserve an reward. Kuu has not proven to her fans and herself that she should get a #1 with this craptastic single. Also, Kuu's little catastrophe wasn't a "struggle" at all for her as she is still selling decently. :rolleyes So again, all this, she struggled and worked so hard needs to be put to a rest.


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Originally Posted by Zachery! (Post 1496046)
What are you talking about? And I like how you skip over Ai.

Then again, she's really lost her touch, hasn't she?

And no, "MOON", while it may nto be her best, is still a fabulous single. Certainly better than "Prisoner of Love" and "Mirrorcle World". Althoguh it is not be better than "60s70s80s".

Either way, she deserves the number 1.

She's been through a lot, is working hard with her tour, and this is a 4 a-side single.

It deserves number 1 more than any single this year.

Maybe she should get the number 1 just so she can feel better, bring up her hopes and spirits. Raise her morale. That's another reason she should get number 1. She probably really needs a pick-me-up.


DUDE, what ******* planet are u one? Just about everyone here accepts the fact that MOON sucked balls! How u say that MOON was certainly better than those singles mention proves u r insane!

Zachery! 9th June 2008 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Luv ~Venus~ (Post 1496079)
Just because GLAY has more #1 singles than Kuu doesn't mean she deserves it tho. True their fanbase is huge but that's because after all this time, they still can relate to them and their music. Kuu's music (IMO) has never been relatible or deep....just entertaining. =/ Thus why her prime came and went so fast. Her fanbase is literally disappearing which my be a sign that her music just isn't interesting anymore.




Ayu, Ai, and Hikki obvious got #1 because they wrote lyrics that related to a lot of people. Kuu's first album had some success as well at it debuted in the top 20, no, top 15. Most new artists can't even get into the top 20 like she did. It's not their fault that Kuu's music sucked. =/ Kuu just wasn't giving nothing new at the time of her debut.



Okay, Kuu has 4 #1 singles while Uver has none and on top of that she has more #1 albums then they have singles and albums put together. :mischief So what's so wrong with them getting a #1 single over Kuu's craptastic comeback single?



Kuu was popular by her 3rd album. =/ Before that, she was known for her FFx-2 single which put her on the map.



WTF are u talkin' about? :irked :irked :irked

You obviously don't understand what THEY went through when she said that. It was ******* obvious that AVEX wasn't going to drop her because of that incident and it was ******* obvious that Kuu wasn't going to stop singing because of that either. So saying that is she deserves #1 has not be proven. Besides, it WAS her fault for starting the whole thing. :irked Why aren't most of u getting that? :grumpy Bad conduct doesn't deserve an reward. Kuu has not proven to her fans and herself that she should get a #1 with this craptastic single. Also, Kuu's little catastrophe wasn't a "struggle" at all for her as she is still selling decently. :rolleyes So again, all this, she struggled and worked so hard needs to be put to a rest.





DUDE, what ******* planet are u one? Just about everyone her accepts the fact that single sucked balls!

So are you saying that if it's your fault that you walk into an alleyway, you don't deserve to get away from the rapist who is following you?

Luv ~Venus~ 9th June 2008 07:18 PM

^Well, yea....but he wouldn't have followed me if my ass had just walked with my friends another way home instead of going through a ******* alleyway by myself. =/ Wtf does that have to do with kuu deserving #1? :irked

Zachery! 9th June 2008 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Luv ~Venus~ (Post 1496088)
^Well, yea....but he wouldn't have followed me if my ass had just walked with my friends instead of going through a ******* alleyway by myself. =/ Wtf does that have to do with kuu deserving #1? :irked

Wow, are you feeling ok?

So if a girl goes through an alleyway, she doesn;t have even teh right to and doesn't deserve to escape?

(and yes, this is relevant to the Kuu chat. Try re-reading everything and you will see why)

Luv ~Venus~ 9th June 2008 07:26 PM

^You said me, not another girl. :innocent

And no, this weird chat were having about me getting raped or wuteva is not related to the kuu topic. =/

Zachery! 9th June 2008 07:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Luv ~Venus~ (Post 1496101)
And no, this weird chat were having about me getting raped or wuteva is related to the kuu topic. =/

I know it is ...

Luv ~Venus~ 9th June 2008 07:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Zachery! (Post 1496104)
I know it is ...

RLY? =/ How is it related to the topic?

*When I said and no, I was saying that it doesn't relate to the topic*

criminal 9th June 2008 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Luv ~Venus~ (Post 1496023)
@criminal: But don't that make it only worse for her when she keeps bringing it up while people try to forget it? I don't actually understand why she has to keep saying it when she already apologized on tv for it. People are at her concerts to watch her perform, no to watch her cry and apologize for the same thing over and over. It gets irritating you know.

Well, after Kumi's first show, there was a news clip on Japanese television about it and afterwards some people [as in 35+ year-old women] were asked how they felt about the whole situation? I remember that one of them said that it was regrettable that she said what she said, but she has apologized many times, which means that she is truly sorry and wants to take it back. I just hope that people come to their senses. I mean, sure, you're a famous singer, but you're still going to make mistakes that, in hindsight, shouldn't have happened, which is exactly the case here. I've only heard the previews for the two non-PV songs from MOON, but from what I can tell, it's a solid single. No 4 hot wave [as in amazing], but no FREAKY [as in disappointing] either, thankfully. I'm not saying that any artist or band deserves a certain situation, but I for one, hope that MOON does okay since it's a quite likable single.

Amai Yume 9th June 2008 08:24 PM

yeesh, this whole thing is getting a lot of steam. Basically Kumi apologized repeatedly and I'm not saying the Japanese public had no right to be angry and upset and I understand that the statement meant a little more in Japan than it would somewhere else but I think the backlash on her was too harsh. Really?! What else do people want from her to put this whole thing behind her? I was under the impression that things had cooled down but now I'm thinking maybe not.

Okkkk, this whole "deserves" thing may be getting out of hand. I'm seeing outrightly saying Kumi's single is crap and it sucks and having that opinion is fine but just stating it doesn't really take the argument anywhere. Some people like it and some people don't, we can just leave it that. Comparing it Ayu and Hikki and Namie singles isn't helping anything either. Hikki and Ayu's music styles are nothing like Kuu's.

Hikki's popularity also stemmed from the fact that she was like bringing a new sound into the J-pop market. And it's not like Kuu hasn't written any lyrics of her own. For her popularity, there are a lot of songs that got her noticed - real Emotion / 1000 no Kotoba, Cutie Honey and of course Butterfly. I wouldn't say the Final Fantasy single put her on the map...it just got her into the public eye more with a hit song. And I wouldn't say her first albums sucked, that's just an opinion. I think secret was an amazing album filled with great songs from start to finish. Her singles did a little better, she had Cutie Honey as a success, her true ero-kakkoi image began and she had the extra PVs to promote the album.

Struggling...I mean everybody has had their struggles. Kuu's struggle to maintain an an image that she didn't create for herself and all of the people who said stuff about it; seeing her sister have such fame while she didn't. I think Kuu's were more a personal thing than a public disaster or something but she's turning away from ero-kakkoi image and if nothing, she's straying away from something that she isn't comfortable with and even if you don't like her or her music, you gotta give her credit for that.

andrepaul 9th June 2008 09:26 PM

Singles:
#1 GReeeeN 73k (259k)
#2 Tackey & Tsubasa

Albums:
#1 KAT-TUN 240k
#2 MINMI
#3 Kanno Youko 72k

dddaiyamondo 9th June 2008 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Zachery! (Post 1496082)
So are you saying that if it's your fault that you walk into an alleyway, you don't deserve to get away from the rapist who is following you?

...:no Dude, what are you even talking about? I'm shocked Luv even responded to this totally bizarre and disturbing analogy (which really makes no sense anyway).

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Originally Posted by Zachery! (Post 1496046)
What are you talking about? And I like how you skip over Ai.

Then again, she's really lost her touch, hasn't she?

And no, "MOON", while it may nto be her best, is still a fabulous single. Certainly better than "Prisoner of Love" and "Mirrorcle World". Althoguh it is not be better than "60s70s80s".

Either way, she deserves the number 1.

She's been through a lot, is working hard with her tour, and this is a 4 a-side single.

It deserves number 1 more than any single this year.

Maybe she should get the number 1 just so she can feel better, bring up her hopes and spirits. Raise her morale. That's another reason she should get number 1. She probably really needs a pick-me-up.

I don't care how much someone's been through, if their music is crap, they don't deserve a #1 single. If someone's whole family died, they got cancer, they became homeless and their dog died, I wouldn't buy their single if it sucked. That stuff's sad, but it's not going to make me go out and buy a single. And what Kuu "went through" was absolutely nothing compared to ACTUALLY bad things that happen to people.

If you wanna see a true survivor in the music industry, check out Ami Suzuki. The girl was blacklisted and banned from the music industry for standing up for herself and she lost everything. Now that's someone who's been through something bad.

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Originally Posted by Amai Yume (Post 1496136)
Okkkk, this whole "deserves" thing may be getting out of hand.

Do you guys now see why I wanted to ban all the "deserves"/"doesn't deserve" talk? :laugh The unwritten rule in JPM's Oricon thread about not using deserve/doesn't deserve has stopped a lot of stupid drama before it happened.

Amai Yume 9th June 2008 09:45 PM

Yep yep, this thread is starting to go away from its purpose, to talk about the Oricon Charts.
I wonder where BoA fared...I'm kinda scared to look.

dddaiyamondo 9th June 2008 09:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Amai Yume (Post 1496243)
Yep yep, this thread is starting to go away from its purpose, to talk about the Oricon Charts.
I wonder where BoA fared...I'm kinda scared to look.

I'm gonna take a wild guess and say... #6.

Amai Yume 9th June 2008 09:55 PM

Yeah, I am seeing 6 or 7...I didn't see it coming from that first day when she was at 3...
And I also wonder where JYONGRI hit the list. I don't think she got a top 10 spot but maybe she inched in at 10?

Luv ~Venus~ 9th June 2008 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by dddaiyamondo (Post 1496232)
...:no Dude, what are you even talking about? I'm shocked Luv even responded to this totally bizarre and disturbing analogy (which really makes no sense anyway).

You know, now that read ur statement, I can't believe I responeded to such a thing either. :( I got too caught up in the convo.

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I don't care how much someone's been through, if their music is crap, they don't deserve a #1 single. If someone's whole family died, they got cancer, they became homeless and their dog died, I wouldn't buy their single if it sucked. That stuff's sad, but it's not going to make me go out and buy a single. And what Kuu "went through" was absolutely nothing compared to ACTUALLY bad things that happen to people.
OMG, thank you! :shughug

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If you wanna see a true survivor in the music industry, check out Ami Suzuki. The girl was blacklisted and banned from the music industry for standing up for herself and she lost everything. Now that's someone who's been through something bad.
Wow...that poor gurl. :weep I read her story and it was sad that her fans turned their backs on her like that. :irked I undestand why they did that when they knew it was Sony's fault in the 1st place. Ugh!

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Do you guys now see why I wanted to ban all the "deserves"/"doesn't deserve" talk? :laugh The unwritten rule in JPM's Oricon thread about not using deserve/doesn't deserve has stopped a lot of stupid drama before it happened.
:yes This isn't the only time a deseve/don't deserve issue has been brought in here though.....that one ended fast though.


@Amai: I think JYONGRI'll be in the top 10 while BoA prolly chart at #9 or something.

Melon Panda 10th June 2008 03:02 AM

This isn't directly related to the thread, but I want to add that only rapists deserve to be raped. If you're stupid enough to walk through a dark alley alone at night, then you're stupid and you better hope nothing happens to you. If you get raped, it's because certain folks need to be locked up in jail, not because you warranted punishment for stupidity.

Anyways, I like the MOON single, but not enough to say that it deserves #1, but that's only my opinion. If it hits #1, it's because enough consumers liked it to buy it and put it there. If it doesn't hit #1, same reasoning applies. This is the music industry - deserves and not deserves don't apply. For debuting artists, luck plays a major role in determining success. All serious debuting artists work hard, but only a handful "make it." All of them deserve to achieve success, but life is rarely fair.

Amai Yume 10th June 2008 03:10 AM

Perfect way of putting it Melon Panda!
Very rational and calm :)

dddaiyamondo 10th June 2008 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Melon Panda (Post 1496472)
Anyways, I like the MOON single, but not enough to say that it deserves #1, but that's only my opinion. If it hits #1, it's because enough consumers liked it to buy it and put it there. If it doesn't hit #1, same reasoning applies. This is the music industry - deserves and not deserves don't apply. For debuting artists, luck plays a major role in determining success. All serious debuting artists work hard, but only a handful "make it." All of them deserve to achieve success, but life is rarely fair.

Nicely put ;) The Japanese public will decide whether or not MOON "deserves" the #1. We just gotta wait and see.

Damita 10th June 2008 03:41 AM

It's not about if it "deserves" number one, it's if it is a worthy purchase. I guess after reading some responses in here the answer for most people is a no, therefore it probably won't get to #1. But we'll see.

Luv ~Venus~ 10th June 2008 04:11 AM

^She's up against GLAY. GLAY people, GLAY! :bchuck It's a real low possiblity that she's isn't getting #1 and I mean LOW. =/ 66 people out of 400 were interested in MOON and on top of that, none of the MOON songs have really done well digitally.

@Triple D: Was that a Hikki pun u just used? XD

Damita 10th June 2008 05:06 AM

^

I was just trying to make a point. You guys all think everything revolves around the #1 spot :P

dddaiyamondo 10th June 2008 05:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Damita (Post 1496569)
I was just trying to make a point. You guys all think everything revolves around the #1 spot :P

I think sales are way more important. I don't know why Kuu fans are so obsessed with getting #1 when they should be wishing for high sales overall. But then again positions and ranks are important, as this IS this Oricon thread.

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Originally Posted by Luv ~Venus~ (Post 1496525)
@Triple D: Was that a Hikki pun u just used? XD

:laugh Maybe! ;)

njanjayrp 10th June 2008 08:38 AM

I would prefer for the sales to be generally higher XD as we've seen that you can get a #1 even with relatively miserable sales (DEF DIVA and AAA) if you carefully pick the release date, but that doesn't mean your single/album will actually sell good ^^

Amai Yume 10th June 2008 10:20 AM

BoA -> 05 -> 20,221 -> actually close to the number 4 spot
JYONGRI -> 12 -> 11,914

AH!!
Hikki -> 18 -> 14,327 -> ~300 copies away from 17 :(

Full Charts credits to Martzb at JPM

SINGLES

**1 72,977 GReeeeN
**2 68,973 タッキー&翼
**3 24,533 LM.C
**4 22,778 清水翔太
**5 20,221 BoA
**6 16,432 柴咲コウ
**7 14,956 米米CLUB
**8 14,169 Aqua Timez
**9 14,028 ORANGE RANGE
*10 13,548 トータス松本
*11 13,235 Hey!Say!JUMP
*12 11,914 JYONGRI
*13 *9,847 秦基博
*14 *9,170 V6
*15 *8,836 FLOW
*16 *7,886 KAT-TUN
*17 *7,824 宇多田ヒカル
*18 *7,685 羞恥心
*19 *7,377 ON/OFF
*20 *5,550 Hi-Fi CAMP
*21 *5,461 竹内まりや
*22 *4,732 AI
*23 *4,487 シェリル・ノーム starring May'n
*24 *4,450 宮野真守
*25 *4,387 Micro
*26 *4,323 キマグレン
*27 *3,906 中河内雅貴
*28 *3,762 堺正章
*29 *3,598 ジェロ
*30 *3,465 星村麻衣
*31 *3,403 真木ことみ
*32 *3,380 北島三郎
*33 *3,348 水森かおり
*34 *3,328 キャラメル
*35 *3,249 ET-KING
*36 *3,205 岩本公水
*37 *3,107 大塚愛
*38 *3,014 絢香
*39 *2,809 谷村奈南
*40 *2,706 秋元順子
*41 *2,684 NEWS
*42 *2,662 MISIA
*43 *2,495 高橋瞳
*44 *2,462 坂本真綾
*45 *2,433 柳連二
*46 *2,286 INFINITY 16 wilcomez GOKI
*47 *2,263 moumoon
*48 *2,228 ゆの
*49 *2,146 NICO Touches the Walls
*50 *2,033 大川栄策
*51 *2,002 安室奈美恵
*52 *1,945 POSSIBILITY
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*54 *1,747 STANCE PUNKS
*55 *1,733 ザ・ルーズドッグス feat.大黒摩季
*56 *1,721 YA-KYIM
*57 *1,708 ザ・クロマニヨンズ
*58 *1,691 花咲ゆき美
*59 *1,682 the pillows
*60 *1,666 すぎもとまさと
*61 *1,630 9mm Parabellum Bullet
*62 *1,613 AAA
*63 *1,599 分島花音
*64 *1,591 LGYankees
*65 *1,572 SEAMO
*66 *1,558 清水翔太『HOME』
*67 *1,547 細川たかし
*68 *1,539 若山かずさ
*69 *1,503 スガシカオ
*70 *1,477 青山テルマ feat.SoulJa
*71 *1,468 ムラマサ☆
*72 *1,446 東方神起
*73 *1,412 谷本知美
*74 *1,339 竹仲絵里
*75 *1,328 いきものがかり
*76 *1,291 天童よしみ
*77 *1,281 永井みゆき
*78 *1,233 氷川きよし
*79 *1,200 ベルナール(平川大輔)/ロシュ(木村良平)
*80 *1,173 MilkyWay
*81 *1,082 Base Ball Bear
*82 *1,075 CRYSTALS
*83 *1,069 レイン(高橋広樹)/エレンフリート(入野自由)
*84 *1,064 音羽しのぶ
*85 *1,058 香西かおり
*86 *1,051 清水博正
*87 *1,044 宇宙戦隊NOIZ
*88 *1,023 北山たけし
*89 *1,007 PhilHarmoUniQue
*90 **,994 鈴木雅之&菊池桃子
*91 **,986 春日野うらら
*92 **,978 KOTOKO
*93 **,973 小林旭
*94 **,967 木山裕策
*95 **,960 柴田淳
*96 **,955 門倉有希
*97 **,948 福山芳樹
*98 **,937 高橋秀幸(Project.R)
*99 **,924 VELTPUNCH
100 **,917 ヘイリー duet with 本田美奈子.

__________

ALBUMS

**1 240,317 KAT-TUN
**2 *83,217 MINMI
**3 *71,633 菅野よう子
**4 *40,395 BEAT CRUSADERS
**5 *34,322 Superfly
**6 *32,081 DOUBLE
**7 *26,832 リュ・シウォン
**8 *26,299 mihimaru GT
**9 *22,829 ウィーザー
*10 *17,324 ET-KING
*12 *15,890 ヘイリー
*13 *15,567 アッシャー
*14 *15,401 エリオット・ヤミン
*15 *15,278 マドンナ
*16 *15,105 川嶋あい『Single Best』
*17 *14,658 locofrank
*18 *14,327 宇多田ヒカル
*19 *14,164 ザ・ミュージック
*20 *10,111 詩音
*21 **9,807 マライア・キャリー
*22 **9,151 レディオヘッド
*23 **8,506 『姫トラ・ベスト』
*24 **7,515 LOW IQ 01
*25 **6,159 EXILE
*26 **6,015 アシャンティ
*27 **5,896 川嶋あい『Coupling Best』
*28 **5,806 レオナ・ルイス
*29 **5,527 原田郁子
*30 **5,404 水谷豊
*31 **5,375 ポール・ポッツ
*32 **5,167 Perfume
*33 **5,154 『First Kiss-15 Special Love Songs』
*34 **5,046 ジェイソン・ムラーズ
*35 **4,806 神尾真由子
*36 **4,506 『ブラック・アイド・ピーズ・ファミリー・ベスト』
*37 **4,500 氷川きよし
*38 **4,494 『R35 Sweet J-Ballads』
*39 **4,336 上原ひろみ~HIROMI'S SONICBLOOM
*40 **4,300 ショーン・ギャレット
*41 **4,196 『これはSHM-CDだ!~ロックで聴き比べる体験サンプラー』
*42 **4,061 『V.I.P.presents ダンスホール・ラヴァーズ シーズン5』
*43 **4,023 Acid Black Cherry
*44 **3,955 BENNIE K
*45 **3,776 GReeeeN
*46 **3,759 Northern19
*47 **3,693 LGYankees&GIPPER
*48 **3,677 HY
*49 **3,665 『DJCD さよなら絶望放送第三巻 特別版』
*50 **3,637 佐野元春
*51 **3,609 青山テルマ
*52 **3,552 柴咲コウ
*53 **3,250 長渕剛『SONGS』
*54 **3,124 ザ・フラテリス
*55 **3,077 安藤裕子
*56 **2,938 『THE IDOLM@STER RADIO COLORFUL MEMORIES』
*57 **2,875 藤井フミヤ
*58 **2,867 アラニス・モリセット
*59 **2,827 YUI
*60 **2,714 徳永英明
*61 **2,706 フロー・ライダー
*62 **2,698 加藤ミリヤ
*63 **2,639 ディスターブド
*64 **2,618 コブクロ『ALL SINLGES BEST』
*65 **2,510 『modal soul classices by Nujabes』
*66 **2,485 DJ和
*67 **2,471 坂詰美紗子
*68 **2,466 CLIFF EDGE
*69 **2,462 岩田さゆり
*70 **2,458 フォックスボロ・ホットタブス
*71 **2,411 『WEBラジオ「ひだまりラジオ×365」』
*72 **2,405 マナフェスト
*73 **2,347 『アイのうた』
*74 **2,341 ONE OK ROCK
*75 **2,336 長渕剛『LOVE』
*76 **2,325 ナイトメア
*77 **2,317 愛内里菜
*78 **2,268 ヘルベルト・フォン・カラヤン,ベルリン・フィルハーモニー管弦楽団
*79 **2,241 スティーヴィー・ホアン
*80 **2,204 the band apart
*81 **2,166 GO!GO!7188
*82 **2,136 平井堅
*83 **2,126 嵐
*84 **1,937 田中ロウマ
*85 **1,932 倉橋ヨエコ
*86 **1,890 N★E★R★D
*87 **1,885 『PS2 D.C.Ⅱ P.S.~ダ・カーポⅡ』
*88 **1,810 Perfume『Perfume~Complete Best~(07.02)』
*89 **1,804 リル・ママ
*90 **1,798 『EXIT TRANCE PRESENTS ウマウマできるトランスを作ってみた』
*91 **1,745 『ワッツ・アップ? ヒップホップ・グレイテスト・ヒッツ Ⅵ』
*92 **1,699 TM NETWORK
*93 **1,695 デフ・レパード
*94 **1,670 コブクロ『5296』
*95 **1,661 THE BACILLUS BRAINS
*96 **1,653 THE NOVEMBERS
*97 **1,647 松本人志,高須光聖
*98 **1,604 エルヴィス・コステロ
*99 **1,586 松田聖子
100 **1,581 GOIN UNDER GROUND

njanjayrp 10th June 2008 12:25 PM

:) well at least VIVID is selling better than the last two singles.

KarenPang 10th June 2008 01:36 PM

thanks for the update AY

TITANIC 10th June 2008 02:39 PM

hmm,seems this week is the first week HS not in top 10 weekly

KaoriNeko 10th June 2008 03:20 PM

Oooh ~ Perfume's still in the top 50! And Arashi's still in the top 100!

criminal 10th June 2008 04:42 PM

*13 *9,847 秦基博

Crap, he missed the 10k mark. :/

Oh, btw, didn't LM.C used to hover around the #20-#30 positions? :O It's kinda weird seeing them so high.

dddaiyamondo 10th June 2008 06:26 PM

Woo, that puts total sales for HEART STATION at 925,217!

KarenPang 11th June 2008 02:10 AM

For this week :

Albums :

*1 240,317 240,317 KAT-TUN - KAT-TUN Ⅲ-QUEEN OF PIRATES-
*2 *83,217 *83,217 MINMI - MINMI BEST 2002-2008
*3 *71,633 *71,633 Yoko Kanno - Macross F OST I
*4 *40,395 *40,395 BEAT CRUSADERS - popdod
*5 *34,322 287,515 Superfly - Superfly
*6 *32,081 *95,494 DOUBLE - THE BEST COLLABORATIONS
*7 *26,832 *26,832 Ryu Shi-won - Aishiteru
*8 *26,299 106,631 mihimaru GT - mihimarise
*9 *22,829 *22,829 Weezer - THE RED ALBUM
*10 *17,324 *17,324 ET-KING - SOUL LAUNDRY

Singles :

*1 72,977 259,074 GReeeeN - Kiseki
*2 68,973 *68,973 Tackey & Tsubasa - Koiuta / Progress
*3 24,533 *24,533 LM.C - 88
*4 22,778 *22,778 Shota Shimizu - Aishiteru
*5 20,221 *20,221 BoA - Vivid -Kissing you, Sparkling, Joyful Smile-
*6 16,432 *16,432 Kou Shibasaki - Yoku Aru Hanashi ~Mofuku no Onna Hen~
*7 14,956 *14,956 Komekome Club - Tsu-yo-ga-ri
*8 14,169 147,418 Aqua Timez - Niji
*9 14,028 *87,315 ORANGE RANGE - O2
*10 13,548 *13,548 Tortoise Matsumoto - Namida wo Todokete

Melon Panda 11th June 2008 02:18 AM

Oh no, it's falling already! (HEART STATION, I mean.)

I think I'm just too attached to this album. I knew this would happen eventually. If I weren't completely poor, I'd go out and buy the album myself. Well, one day.

dddaiyamondo 11th June 2008 02:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Melon Panda (Post 1497705)
Oh no, it's falling already! (HEART STATION, I mean.)

I think I'm just too attached to this album. I knew this would happen eventually. If I weren't completely poor, I'd go out and buy the album myself. Well, one day.

14,000 in the 12th week is actually really impressive. It only has 75k more to sell to hit the million mark, looks like she will definitely do it!

Melon Panda 11th June 2008 02:38 AM

When HEART STATION hits a million, I'll go out and buy it, even if I have beg on the streets for money. :)

♥ you! 11th June 2008 03:15 AM

Poor BoA :(

So exicted for when HEART STATION hits 1 million! The suspence is killing meee

TITANIC 11th June 2008 08:35 AM

*2 *2 *1 *1 *1 *1→*1 GReeeeN 「キセキ」
*1 *1 *2 *2 *2 *2→*2 タッキー&翼 「恋詩-コイウタ-/PROGRESS」
*5 *4 *3 *3 *4 *4/*3 清水翔太 「「アイシテル」」
17 16 11 12 *5 *3\*4 Aqua Timez 「虹」
14 13 12 11 *6 *5→*5 Hey!Say!JUMP 「Dreams come true」
12 12 10 10 *7 *7/*6 ORANGE RANGE 「O2」
*4 *3 *4 *6 *3 *6\*7 LM.C 「88」
*6 *6 *5 *7 *8 10/*8 柴咲コウ 「よくある話~喪服の女編~」
21 21 17 17 13 *8\*9 羞恥心 「羞恥心」
*9 *8 *7 *8 12 14↑10 トータス松本 「涙をとどけて」
*7 *7 *9 *9 *9 13/11 米米CLUB 「つ・よ・が・り」
18 19 18 14 14 12→12 宇多田ヒカル 「Prisoner Of Love」
11 10 *8 *4 11 11\13 JYONGRI 「Unchanging Love~君がいれば~」
*3 *5 *6 *5 10 *9↓14 BoA 「Vivid(Kissing you/Sparkling/Joyful Smile)」
16 15 14 15 15 16/15 V6 「蝶」
23 23 20 19 18 17/16 竹内まりや 「幸せのものさし/うれしくてさみしい日(Your Wedding Day)」
15 17 16 16 16 15\17 KAT-TUN 「DON'T U EVER STOP」
*8 11 13 18 19 20/18 秦 基博 「虹が消えた日」
34 29 24 23 23 19→19 Micro 「踊れ」
25 25 27 13 17 18\20 Hi-Fi CAMP 「キズナ」26 24 22 20 21 26↑21 シェリル・ノーム starring May'n 「ダイアモンド クレバス/射手座☆午後九時Don't be late」
28 30 23 25 24 21\22 キマグレン 「LIFE」
10 *9 15 21 20 23→23 FLOW 「WORD OF THE VOICE」
43 39 32 30 30 29↑24 絢香 「おかえり」
42 42 29 28 31 30↑25 ジェロ 「海雪」
31 27 25 31 29 25\26 堺正章 「忘れもの」
13 14 21 22 22 22↓27 ON/OFF 「ふたつの鼓動と赤い罪」
36 35 30 27 26 24↓28 キャラメル 「ウッーウッーウマウマ(゜∀゜)」
-- 32 37 33 32 35↑29 坂本真綾 「トライアングラー」
47 38 39 32 27 27\30 大塚愛 「ロケットスニーカー/One×Time」
-- -- -- -- -- --↑31 SEAMO 「MOTHER」
-- -- 49 29 39 42↑32 秋元順子 「愛のままで…」
-- -- 37 38 45 --↑33 水森かおり 「輪島朝市」
-- -- -- -- 38 35/34 安室奈美恵 「60s 70s 80s(NEW LOOK/ROCK STEADY/WHAT A FEELING)」
45 44 36 36 49 --↑34 北島三郎 「俺らしく」
-- -- -- -- 48 --↑36 LGYankees 「Dear Mama feat.小田和正/Eternal」
41 43 33 40 36 34\37 MISIA 「約束の翼」
19 18 19 24 28 32↓38 AI 「大切なもの」
-- -- 44 -- -- --↑39 すぎもとまさと 「吾亦紅」
45 46 35 35 44 33↓39 谷村奈南 「JUNGLE DANCE」
-- -- -- 49 45 49↑41 YA-KYIM 「Super☆Looper」
-- -- -- -- -- --↑42 the pillows 「New Animal」
20 28 26 40 33 37↓42 ET-KING 「ふたりの歌/ヤッターマンの歌」
48 49 34 37 25 28↓44 NEWS 「SUMMER TIME」
-- -- -- -- -- --↑44 鈴木雅之&菊池桃子 「恋のフライトタイム~12pm~」
-- -- -- 46 43 44\46 清水翔太 「HOME」
33 36 43 38 41 48/47 INFINITY 16 welcomez GOKI 「線香花火」
-- -- -- -- -- --↑48 大川栄策 「名残りの桜」
-- -- -- -- -- --↑49 秋川雅史 「千の風になって」
-- -- -- -- 42 --↑50 9mm Parabellum Bullet 「Supernova/Wanderland」

*3 *2 *2 *2 *1 *1→*1 MINMI 「MINMI BEST 2002-2008」
*2 *3 *3 *3 *3 *3/*2 菅野よう子 「MBS・TBS系テレビ・アニメーション マクロスF(フロンティア)O.S.T.Ⅰ(娘フロ。)」
*1 *1 *1 *1 *2 *2\*3 KAT-TUN 「KAT-TUN Ⅲ QUEEN OF PIRATES」
*8 *6 *5 *5 *5 *5/*4 DOUBLE 「THE BEST COLLABORATIONS」
*6 *7 *6 *4 *4 *4\*5 Superfly 「Superfly」
11 10 *7 *7 *7 *6→*6 mihimaru GT 「mihimarise」
15 14 12 10 *8 *8/*7 ヘイリー 「純~21歳の出会い」
*4 *4 *4 *6 *6 *7\*8 BEAT CRUSADERS 「popdod」
17 16 13 13 11 10/*9 エリオット・ヤミン 「ウエイト・フォー・ユー」
20 17 15 15 *9 *9\10 宇多田ヒカル 「HEART STATION」
24 19 19 20 19 14/11 マドンナ 「ハード・キャンディー」
25 26 18 19 17 16↑12 詩音 「Candy Girl」
14 *9 10 12 10 11\13 ET-KING 「SOUL LAUNDRY」
10 13 *9 11 14 18↑14 DEEN 「DEEN PERFECT SINGLES+」
*7 *8 11 14 13 13\15 ウィーザー 「ザ・レッド・アルバム」
30 22 20 23 20 19/16 V.A. 「姫トラ・ベスト」
13 11 16 16 12 12↓17 川嶋あい 「Single Best」
12 15 17 17 15 15\18 ザ・ミュージック 「ストレングス・イン・ナンバーズ」
23 21 21 21 21 20/19 アッシャー 「ヒア・アイ・スタンド」
*9 12 14 18 16 17\20 locofrank 「BRAND-NEW OLD-STYLE」
*5 *5 *8 *8 18 23/21 リュ・シウォン 「蒼天の愛」
41 34 36 37 24 21\22 Perfume 「GAME」
32 30 27 28 23 22\23 EXILE 「EXILE CATCHY BEST」
26 25 23 26 31 31↑24 マライア・キャリー 「E=MC2 ~MIMI第2章」
-- -- 24 25 28 27/25 LGYankees&GIPPER 「1-One-」
-- -- -- -- -- --↑26 knotlamp 「Ghost of the freedom」
27 24 25 27 27 24\27 レディオヘッド 「ザ・ベスト・オブ」
-- 50 45 45 47 34↑28 青山テルマ 「DIARY」
33 31 29 42 33 30/29 V.A. 「First Kiss-15 Special Love Songs」
48 38 43 35 30 26↓30 V.A. 「R35 Sweet J-Ballads」
31 29 26 33 29 32/31 水谷豊 「TIME CAPSULE」
16 18 22 29 25 25↓32 LOW IQ 01 「MASTER LOW FOR...」
-- -- 41 -- 43 43↑33 HY 「HeartY」
37 33 28 40 37 36/34 V.A. 「ブラック・アイド・ピーズ・ファミリー・ベスト」
-- -- -- 24 26 33\35 V.A. 「これがSHM-CDだ! ~ロックで聴き比べる体験サンプラー」
49 37 35 49 50 44↑36 Acid Black Cherry 「Recreation」
36 28 34 34 36 35\37 アシャンティ 「デクラレイション」
-- 47 48 48 40 28↓38 GReeeeN 「あっ、ども。はじめまして。」
43 36 40 43 41 47↑39 BENNIE K 「BEST OF THE BESTEST」
-- 44 50 41 -- --↑40 氷川きよし 「演歌名曲コレクション8~玄海船歌~」
40 32 46 36 34 40\41 上原ひろみ~HIROMI'S SONICBLOOM 「ビヨンド・スタンダード」
44 39 38 39 42 42→42 V.A. 「V.I.P.presents ダンスホール・ラヴァーズ シーズン5」
29 27 30 22 38 --↑43 神尾真由子 「PRIMO」
-- 41 47 50 32 39↓44 柴咲コウ 「Single Best」
-- -- 49 -- -- --↑45 加藤ミリヤ 「TOKYO STAR」
-- -- -- -- -- --↑46 徳永英明 「HIDEAKI TOKUNAGA VOCALIST BOX」
39 35 39 43 44 37↓47 ショーン・ギャレット 「ターボ 919」
-- 42 37 -- -- --↑47 長渕剛 「SONGS」
-- -- -- *9 22 29↓49 ポール・ポッツ 「ワン・チャンス」
-- 47 44 46 48 46\49 レオナ・ルイス 「スピリット」

AyuGAME 11th June 2008 09:00 AM

YAY for shota, position 4 is great for debuting artist like him
i think he will get award for best new artist in the end of the year

ayumixfan 11th June 2008 09:03 AM

OMGOSH AI-CHIN ~! 30th lol not too bad KEEP SELLING ^______^ ~! lol I really want this single to sell a ton by living off the lower ranks of the chart XD

KarenPang 11th June 2008 11:07 AM

1st day sales of singles

1 26,436 VERB TO 08/6/11
GLAY

2 23,833 MOON(Moon Crying/That Ain’t Cool/Once Again/ Lady G o!) RZN 08/6/11
倖田來未

3 13,617 激動/Just break the limit! SR 08/6/11
UVERworld

the no.s haven't been multiplied by 1.75 although I must say that Koda's trailing by a mere 2-3K between GLAY

If possible can someone please post the sales figures/positions of Anna Tsuchiya's Crazy World & T.M.Revolution's reasonance too ?

dddaiyamondo 11th June 2008 11:12 AM

Single daily rank
シングルデイリー推移
水 木 金 土 日 月  火
-- -- -- -- -- --↑*1 GLAY 「VERB」
-- -- -- -- -- --↑*2 倖田來未 「MOON(Moon Crying/That Ain't Cool/Once Again/Lady Go!)」
-- -- -- -- -- --↑*3 UVERworld 「激動/Just break the limit!」
-- -- -- -- -- --↑*4 T.M.Revolution 「resonance」
-- -- -- -- -- --↑*5 High-King 「c\c(シンデレラ\コンプレックス)」
*2 *1 *1 *1 *1 *1↓*6 GReeeeN 「キセキ」
-- -- -- -- -- --↑*7 大橋卓弥 「SKY」
-- -- -- -- -- --↑*8 童子-T 「もう一度… feat.BENI」
-- -- -- -- -- --↑*9 Angelo 「CHAOTIC BELL」
*1 *2 *2 *2 *2 *2↓10 タッキー&翼 「恋詩-コイウタ-/PROGRESS」
-- -- -- -- -- --↑11 土屋アンナ feat.AI 「Crazy World」
*4 *3 *3 *4 *4 *3↓12 清水翔太 「「アイシテル」」
16 11 12 *5 *3 *4↓13 Aqua Timez 「虹」
-- -- -- -- -- --↑14 jealkb 「花」
*3 *4 *6 *3 *6 *7↓15 LM.C 「88」
12 10 10 *7 *7 *6↓16 ORANGE RANGE 「O2」
13 12 11 *6 *5 *5↓17 Hey!Say!JUMP 「Dreams come true」
*7 *9 *9 *9 13 11↓18 米米CLUB 「つ・よ・が・り」
*5 *6 *5 10 *9 14↓19 BoA 「Vivid(Kissing you/Sparkling/Joyful Smile)」
*6 *5 *7 *8 10 *8↓20 柴咲コウ 「よくある話~喪服の女編~」
-- -- -- -- -- --↑21 doriko 「夕日坂」
19 18 14 14 12 12↓22 宇多田ヒカル 「Prisoner Of Love」
21 17 17 13 *8 *9↓23 羞恥心 「羞恥心」
*8 *7 *8 12 14 10↓24 トータス松本 「涙をとどけて」
-- -- -- -- -- --↑25 doriko 「歌に形はないけれど」
-- -- -- -- -- --↑26 音速ライン 「ロレッタ」
-- -- -- -- -- --↑27 元気ロケッツ 「Star Line/Smile」
15 14 15 15 16 15↓28 V6 「蝶」
-- -- -- -- -- --↑29 Crystal Kay 「涙のさきに」
23 20 19 18 17 16↓30 竹内まりや 「幸せのものさし/うれしくてさみしい日(Your Wedding Day)」
17 16 16 16 15 17↓31 KAT-TUN 「DON'T U EVER STOP」
10 *8 *4 11 11 13↓32 JYONGRI 「Unchanging Love~君がいれば~」
11 13 18 19 20 18↓33 秦基博 「虹が消えた日」
-- -- -- -- -- --↑34 Duel Jewel 「アイオライト」
25 27 13 17 18 20↓35 Hi-Fi CAMP 「キズナ」
*9 15 21 20 23 23↓36 FLOW 「WORD OF THE VOICE」
27 25 31 29 25 26↓37 堺正章 「忘れもの」
-- -- -- -- -- --↑38 スチャダラパー 「ライツカメラアクション」
14 21 22 22 22 27↓39 ON/OFF 「ふたつの鼓動と赤い罪」
29 24 23 23 19 19↓40 Micro 「踊れ」
42 29 28 31 30 25↓41 ジェロ 「海雪」
46 35 35 44 33 39\42 谷村奈南 「JUNGLE DANCE」
30 23 25 24 21 22↓43 キマグレン 「LIFE」
39 32 30 30 29 24↓44 絢香 「おかえり」
24 22 20 21 26 21↓45 シェリル・ノーム starring May'n 「ダイアモンド クレバス/射手座☆午後九時Don't be late」
35 30 27 26 24 28↓46 キャラメル 「ウッーウッーウマウマ(゜∀゜)」
18 19 24 28 32 38↓47 AI 「大切なもの」
-- -- -- -- -- --↑48 増田政夫 「淡路島」
-- 49 29 39 42 32↓49 秋元順子 「愛のままで…」
-- -- -- -- -- --↑50 DETROX 「Long Way Round」
32 37 33 32 35 29↓-- 坂本真綾 「トライアングラー」
38 39 32 27 27 30↓-- 大塚愛 「ロケットスニーカー/One×Time」
-- -- -- -- -- 31↓-- SEAMO 「MOTHER」
-- 37 38 45 -- 33↓-- 水森かおり 「輪島朝市」
-- -- -- 38 35 34↓-- 安室奈美恵 「60s 70s 80s(NEW LOOK/ROCK STEADY/WHAT A FEELING)」
44 36 36 49 -- 34↓-- 北島三郎 「俺らしく」
-- -- -- 48 -- 36↓-- LGYankees 「Dear Mama feat.小田和正/Eternal」
43 33 40 36 34 37↓-- MISIA 「約束の翼」
-- 44 -- -- -- 39↓-- すぎもとまさと 「吾亦紅」
-- -- 49 45 49 41↓-- YA-KYIM 「Super☆Looper」
28 26 40 33 37 42↓-- ET-KING 「ふたりの歌/ヤッターマンの歌」


Album daily ranking
アルバムデイリー推移
水 木 金 土 日 月  火
-- -- -- -- -- --↑*1 氷室京介 「20th Anniversary ALL SINGLES COMPLETE BEST “JUST MOVIN' ON"~ALL THE-S-HIT~」
-- -- -- -- -- --↑*2 ASIAN KUNG-FU GENERATION 「未だ見ぬ明日に」
-- -- -- -- -- --↑*3 オフスプリング 「ライズ・アンド・フォール,レイジ・アンド・グレース」
-- -- -- -- -- --↑*4 コールドプレイ 「美しき生命」
*2 *2 *2 *1 *1 *1↓*5 MINMI 「MINMI BEST 2002-2008」
-- -- -- -- -- --↑*6 中島みゆき 「歌旅 -中島みゆきコンサートツアー2007-」
*1 *1 *1 *2 *2 *3↓*7 KAT-TUN 「KAT-TUN Ⅲ-QUEEN OF PIRATES-」
*3 *3 *3 *3 *3 *2↓*8 菅野よう子 「マクロスF(フロンティア)O.S.T.1 娘フロ。」
-- -- -- -- -- --↑*9 氣志團 「KISHIDAN GRATEFUL EMI YEARS 2001~2008 房総魂~SONG FOR ROUTE127~」
*6 *5 *5 *5 *5 *4↓10 DOUBLE 「THE BEST COLLABORATIONS」
*7 *6 *4 *4 *4 *5↓11 Superfly 「Superfly」
-- -- -- -- -- --↑12 郷ひろみ 「place to be」
*4 *4 *6 *6 *7 *8↓13 BEAT CRUSADERS 「popdod」
14 12 10 *8 *8 *7↓14 ヘイリー 「純~21歳の出会い」
10 *7 *7 *7 *6 *6↓15 mihimaru GT 「mihimarise」
-- -- -- -- -- --↑16 eufonius 「メトロクローム」
19 19 20 19 14 11↓17 マドンナ 「ハード・キャンディー」
16 13 13 11 10 *9↓18 エリオット・ヤミン 「ウエイト・フォー・ユー」
26 18 19 17 16 12↓19 詩音 「Candy Girl」
-- -- -- -- -- --↑20 N★E★R★D 「シーイング・サウンズ」
17 15 15 *9 *9 10↓21 宇多田ヒカル 「HEART STATION」
*8 11 14 13 13 15↓22 ウィーザー 「ザ・レッド・アルバム」
13 *9 11 14 18 14↓23 DEEN 「DEEN PERFECT SINGLES+」
*9 10 12 10 11 13↓24 ET-KING 「SOUL LAUNDRY」
15 17 17 15 15 18↓25 ザ・ミュージック 「ストレングス・イン・ナンバーズ」
22 20 23 20 19 16↓26 V.A. 「姫トラ・ベスト」
-- -- -- -- -- 26\27 knotlamp 「Ghost of the freedom」
-- -- -- -- -- --↑28 遠藤正明 「ENSON」
12 14 18 16 17 20↓29 locofrank 「BRAND-NEW OLD-STYLE」
34 36 37 24 21 22↓30 Perfume 「GAME」

KarenPang 11th June 2008 11:13 AM

thanks triple D

Crazy World's debut day position is just too low :(

yay for T.M.R

TITANIC 11th June 2008 11:52 AM

oohh.. good.. at least Moon 1st day sales almost same with MW..

njanjayrp 11th June 2008 02:25 PM

Japanese people never stop to amaze me..

Foxxy_Fuyumi 11th June 2008 02:36 PM

Very happy for Dhozy T!!!
High King in 5? Hope they do well as Milky Way =\
And TM Revolution still in the mood! xD

KarenPang 11th June 2008 02:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 1498350)
Japanese people never stop to amaze me..

your point being ?

Amai Yume 11th June 2008 04:37 PM

Go Kuu!!!
Oh heck yeah!!!

The numbers with 1.75...

SINGLES
x->1 - Glay - 26,436 (x1.75) = 45,263
x->2 - Koda Kumi - 23,833 (x1.75) = 41,708
x->3 - UVERworld - 13,617 (x1.75) = 23,830

ALBUMS
x->1 - Himuro Kyousuke - 15,186 (x1.7) = 25,816
x->2 - Asian Kung-Fu Generation - 11,188 (x1.7) = 19,020
x->3 - Offspring - 7,085 (x1.7) = 12,045

credits to Martzb at JPM

Damita 11th June 2008 10:45 PM

Single of the year is really close!

Aoyama Thelma feat. SoulJa - Soba ni Iru ne (437,596)
Kat-tun - Dont U Ever Stop (433,168)

I really hope Aoyama will keep the spot but KAT-TUN should still sell another 15k before the end of the year. Aoyama only sold 1.4 this week. I hope she can keep on for a bit longer like she already has, but it's starting to drop more rapidly.

fanmail 11th June 2008 10:48 PM

^ why the hell was that thelma single so popular for! it's so ... lame. =/

eeeeeeeeeeeee go kuu!!! SELL THOSE SINGLES HUN!!!!! <3

Luv ~Venus~ 11th June 2008 10:58 PM

^I liked Soba ni Iru ne. I think there were better songs than SNIN that I thought should have recieved some of the same success...but oh, well. If Thelma gets #1 yearly, wouldn't she be like the 1st debuting artist to get a #1 single yearly? @_@ If so, I would so disappointed tho. I mean, not a single single this year surpassed the 500k yet. =/

KaoriNeko 11th June 2008 11:00 PM

The song is so bland. I listen to it like once every - ....er, pretty much never. DUES is a totally hot song and deserves the number one spot. And Arashi totally deserves number 2, not three. :grumpy
Stupid Thelma.

Tom Punks 11th June 2008 11:04 PM

I agree with Kaori that soba ni iru ne is pretty bland. :yes And it doesn't at all sound like a song that would sell so well.

But on the other hand, I think a lot of singles better than DUES have been released this year. I guess DUES isn't really bad or anything, I just like listening to LIPS more than it. But LOVEJUICE was like :love

Amai Yume 11th June 2008 11:06 PM

I don't actually like Soba ni Iru or DUES but Thelma's song is really boring IMO. I really don't get all the hype about her.
Of the top three, Arashi has the best song but I guess it isn't close enough to be in the running for the top spot.
Hopefully someone will bring an AMAZING single that will destroy everyone...I'm still praying that Hana Yori Dango works magic for aiko like it did Hikki and KissHug gets great sales!

Go Kuu!!!!!!!!!!

KaoriNeko 11th June 2008 11:11 PM

Hana Yori Dango better work magic for Arashi. I love aiko and all, but One Love needs to live up to Step and Go, what with the giant tie-in and all. Arashi's single better crush all those out there!!!!!!!!!! :evillaugh

Luv ~Venus~ 11th June 2008 11:11 PM

^Aiko....is singing for HYDF??? DDDDD: *is so shocked...seriously* GO AIKO! I hope this tie-in does work wonders for her. She has really impressed me. I don't mind if she gets the #1 single of the year. It's been a long time coming anyway.

As for Soba, I think the lyrics is what attracted fans to the song. =/ I thought that were okay...nothing out of the ordinary. It's been overplayed and overrated now....but I don't mind the success that it has now.

I haven't heard DUES so I can't judge nothing about this single or KAT-TUN. =/

austin. ♥ 11th June 2008 11:13 PM

95% of Thelma's discography is better than Soba ni Iru ne. Although I do quite like that song too. Her album DIARY is great even though it takes a while to sink in. <3

I'm not really bothered as to which song gets the best seller because they've already sold amazingly so in a sense they've really already won. If that even makes sense - to me it does right now.

I'm so depressed at Crystal Kay's position, and slightly angry at Kumi's.

Edit And Luv, it doesn't matter if aiko gets the #1 of the year or not, she needs this #1 no matter how it sells. In her 10 year career, she's been in the top 5 for 8 years and not a single #1. :grumpy

But isn't One Love released the same day as Lovehug? For once, I hope ARASHI won't get the #1, in this case.

dddaiyamondo 11th June 2008 11:17 PM

I will be so disappointed if "Soba ni Iru ne" gets the top spot. Thelma sounds like she's half asleep the whole time and the entire song makes me wanna take a nap. Doesn't help that she looks like a busted Raven Symone.

I really hope aiko can get the #1 single of the year, although I doubt it. Maybe, though. That would be awesome, I love her.

Tom Punks 11th June 2008 11:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dddaiyamondo (Post 1499043)
I will be so disappointed if "Soba ni Iru ne" gets the top spot. Thelma sounds like she's half asleep the whole time and the entire song makes me wanna take a nap. Doesn't help that she looks like a busted Raven Symone.

:shakehead

That's exactly what I was thinking, only meaner. Seriously. And I would hate if she got popular to the point where I had to look at her face all the time. Not that she's ugly, but her face bothers me.

*mightbeshallow?*

ayumisrael 11th June 2008 11:21 PM

I love aiko, she has some really really good ballads!
She gets my regards as well!

KaoriNeko 11th June 2008 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by austin. ♥ (Post 1499039)
But isn't One Love released the same day as Lovehug? For once, I hope ARASHI won't get the #1, in this case.

Nope. It's released almost a month after aiko's single. :laugh
I know that Arashi is pretty much guaranteed a top spot, but I want this single to do amazingly well since the tie-in is so huge. Hopefully it can be a long charter like Love so sweet.

But good luck aiko, I love her music.
Kira Kira....:luv2

Damita 11th June 2008 11:31 PM

Wow I'm a little suprised by all the negative remarks about her. soba ni iru ne is not the best song of the year by far, it's barely an above average song, but I think it's deserving compared to some other songs that got #1. Not a fan of KAT-TUN at all so definitely cheering her on :P plus I <3 Diary.

I don't like Aiko. She sounds too....kiddish? for my tastes. Plus she looks like my math teacher that I can't stand :laugh I've only listened to Himitsu album from her. After one listen through it I deleted it. Maybe I'll try something else from her in the future.

austin. ♥ 11th June 2008 11:34 PM

Why does everyone seem to hate Thelma? You can't judge her by one of currently fourteen songs listed to her name. Songs like My dear friend and ONE WAY really let her vocals shine and if you want a proper, inspired ballad with good vocals by her just listen to the song DIARY. And Thelma is far from ugly. You're almost as bad as the people who judge Stephanie by her looks before her amazing music.

ll moments ll 11th June 2008 11:36 PM

concerning the HYD songs, i don't think both singles will sell as high as you expect them to. a j-movie tie-in is very different from a j-drama tie-in. a single can benefit more from a j-drama tie-in because the show is shown weekly and it gets a nice boost after each show.

...but then again, it is HYD. i still think they'll sell moderately well. i don't think Arashi or aiko will get the top yearly spot, but that's just me talking. XD

i'm personally rooting for "DUES" to get that top spot. i liked "Soba ni Iru ne" for a while, but i don't think it's that great to get the yearly #1 spot. but, Mr. Children has some singles coming out too. i think they have the potential to knock either KAT-TUN or Aoyama Thelma from the top spot.

Amai Yume 11th June 2008 11:39 PM

Holy crap, aiko has never had a number one?!!!
Wow, that's really surprising.
I've listened to Thelma's album and I'm sorry but if you haven't listened to it, trust me, you're not missing ANYTHING.
I haven't heard aiko's song but if it's something like the material off Himitsu then I smell a winner!
Hopefully KissHug will be the next Flavor Of Life!

KaoriNeko 11th June 2008 11:41 PM

It's not that I hate Thelma, or think she's fug. I just don't think Soba ni iru ne isn't that great of a song. I preferred Soulja's version WAY more. :yes
But I think DUES is a complete better, not just because I love KAT-TUN, but because it is. If I was cheering on my fave band, I'd be rooting for Arashi for number one, but I'm not. ONE WAY was a much better song from Thelma, I agree about that, but that didn't do as well. =[

dddaiyamondo 12th June 2008 12:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by austin. ♥ (Post 1499059)
Why does everyone seem to hate Thelma? You can't judge her by one of currently fourteen songs listed to her name. Songs like My dear friend and ONE WAY really let her vocals shine and if you want a proper, inspired ballad with good vocals by her just listen to the song DIARY.

Well, this IS the Oricon thread, and we're discussing the top singles of the year. "Soba ni Iru ne" doesn't deserve the #1 spot, IMO, and I think that it's really overrated. I was only talking about that song, not her other stuff, because I haven't listened to it (mostly due to the fact that SNIN has turned me off from her), so it could be great, I don't know.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Amai Yume (Post 1499062)
I've listened to Thelma's album and I'm sorry but if you haven't listened to it, trust me, you're not missing ANYTHING.

:laugh Thanks, Amai, you've confirmed my suspicions.

austin. ♥ 12th June 2008 12:59 AM

If this is an Oricon sales thread then why are people calling Thelma ugly?

And no, Amai hasn't. She listened to it once and once only and then deleted it afterwards.

Edit But y'know, this is an Oricon thread. Just like you said.

dddaiyamondo 12th June 2008 01:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by austin. ♥ (Post 1499131)
If this is an Oricon sales thread then why are people calling Thelma ugly?

And no, Amai hasn't. She listened to it once and once only and then deleted it afterwards.

But y'know, this is an Oricon thread.

It just adds to how un-enjoyable that song is ;)

austin. ♥ 12th June 2008 01:04 AM

Whatever. I think I'll just stick to the JPM thread. This one is turning ****** quickly.

Damita 12th June 2008 01:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by austin. ♥ (Post 1499059)
Why does everyone seem to hate Thelma? You can't judge her by one of currently fourteen songs listed to her name. Songs like My dear friend and ONE WAY really let her vocals shine and if you want a proper, inspired ballad with good vocals by her just listen to the song DIARY. And Thelma is far from ugly. You're almost as bad as the people who judge Stephanie by her looks before her amazing music.

Yeah agreed. I myself am not into Stephanie's looks at all, but wow I heard her album and it's one of my top 3 favorite albums of 08. She has a really beautiful voice. Sad it didn't do that well on the charts. I think her looks may have played a part in that too, but you can only guess.

dddaiyamondo 12th June 2008 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Damita (Post 1499139)
Yeah agreed. I myself am not into Stephanie's looks at all, but wow I heard her album and it's one of my top 3 favorite albums of 08. She has a really beautiful voice. Sad it didn't do that well on the charts. I think her looks may have played a part in that too, but you can only guess.

I didn't like much of her music until I heard "Friends" which I enjoyed quite a bit. Her album was pretty good. It would be sad if her looks played into her album flopping. I didn't think she was ugly or anything, but I mean even her record company covered her face in most her first video. That's kind of embarrassing.



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