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Beauty4123 11th January 2009 04:05 AM

ohh, i see. thanks for the info :P

so only 4 new songs for the album? and she's including every single up to gunjou no tani?

GRACE 11th January 2009 04:06 AM

^Yep. Two of the new songs are likely to be Liberty and Kuon no Kawa, but nothing's set in stone yet.

pommy48 11th January 2009 04:08 AM

you can't just say chi bi is for red cliff, since chi bi is red cliff in chinese @_@
gah, confusion

but let us think of the album name
i think it might have something to do with Nature~

GRACE 11th January 2009 04:09 AM

I don't want it to be "something no something", because I'm tired of it, it's boring XD

I wouldn't mind a simple, single word title <3

pommy48 11th January 2009 04:12 AM

i'm just glad sora uta wasnt' sora no uta @_@

KarenPang 11th January 2009 04:13 AM

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Originally Posted by GRACE (Post 1775592)

I wonder what she'll call the album~

maybe it might be self titled ? :shrug

Kaiouforever 11th January 2009 04:29 AM

I looooove Gunjou no tani! Wonderful song, and the PV was quite beautiful. I can't wait for Feb!

KarenPang 11th January 2009 04:37 AM

omg the Gunjou no Tani PV is beautiful <3

I didn't realise Sichuan is so sceneric looking & the song's great as well

1 of her best works to date for sure :yes & I just like the braids on alan's hair , well at least a little bit of it

pommy48 11th January 2009 04:57 AM

oo here's the romaji lyrics of GnT, not correct, but still
thanks to syun @ alan-world

Todomaru koto nagare
Aoi minamo ni tatai yo
Eien ni utae hana no iro
Shiroi yamanari furitsu

Arashi no ato, mabayui hikari wo mita
Nakita wo sareta hazu no
Komoriuta itoshiki hoshi ga hitotsu
Tame iki ni mita koe wo ageru

Ikanaide aogimite
Mukaite mo tarinai kono ude wa
Mamoritai, oboeteru,
Anata kakureta mono subete
Mamoritai

Yama ka naita jouzu ni ayasenakatta
Ringo no hana momo no ga
Tokai yuki kewashiki niji wo ira ni
Odoru you ni kaketeku dakedo

Odokanai kaeritai
Uzumaite furueru
Koko ni kite
Dakishimeta, oboeteta
Kono me de mita mono subete
Dakishimete

Ikanaide aogimite
Mukaite mo tarinai
kono ude wa
Ikanaide aogimite
Mukaite mo tarinai
Kono ude wa

Todokanai kaeritai
Uzumaite furueru
Dakishimete, oboetete
Kono me de mita mono wo subete
Mamoritai

Kanashimu koto nagare
Te wo tsunagou hitotsu ni narou
Eien ni utae kimi no yume
Amai no noyama furianu

hehe, she says something about ringo, which is apple in japanese :D

ll moments ll 11th January 2009 04:57 AM

wow, "Gunjou no Tani" is really good! i'm really impressed with it especially since i somewhat lost interest during the 5 element singles.

i'm looking forward to her debut album (finally!) now. :D

KarenPang 11th January 2009 05:01 AM

you can trust alan to sing about apple & peaches in Gunjou no Tani :rofl

pommy48 11th January 2009 05:02 AM

like i said, if she can sing about taxi drivers in KnT, she can do anything!

KarenPang 11th January 2009 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by pommy408 (Post 1775680)
like i said, if she can sing about taxi drivers in KnT, she can do anything!

yeah I know Jasmine :laugh

Cocco's awesome in writing & composing Gunjou no Tani :D

pommy48 11th January 2009 05:09 AM

^ yep! you learned the writing part from me ;)
really you have to give cocco props for this song...but of course, alan just added the perfect cherry on top <3

Yum!Fruit_Salad! 11th January 2009 06:33 AM

Fruit analogies~
She should sing about janitors next!

pommy48 11th January 2009 06:35 AM

haha i always think next time, she's gonna sing about bananas..don't know why, but one day she might

but really, the taxi driver in KnT, i still don't get that o.O

GRACE 11th January 2009 06:47 AM

Can someone give me a screen cap of alan when she was sitting and singing in the Gunjou PV? In the less colorful parts

pommy48 11th January 2009 06:49 AM

^ YES I CAN!!!!!!!!!!
actually just check my request for xlitax lol

http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showpo...&postcount=253

feel free, anyone, if you want to take them!

GRACE 11th January 2009 06:53 AM

^Oh my god thanks, I'm going to use them as simple sigs for an RP site, one of my characters' "face claims" is alan XD

pommy48 11th January 2009 06:55 AM

^ lol awesome~ i remembered kevin(from AW) told me he made his spouse in the Sims 2 to look like alan

...have anyone else done that XD

cloud♥honey 11th January 2009 07:00 AM

Oh man, Gunjou no Tani is so loud and annoying. I'm quite disappointed, mostly because I wanted something as breathtaking as Chi Bi. But that's alright, this is her only totally-forgettable A-side for me. I still have much more to go.

GRACE 11th January 2009 07:06 AM

LOL Kevin would do that XD

pommy48 11th January 2009 08:04 AM

i was looking at the site that lists the top 100 chaku-uta
and the words alan and Liberty was nowhere to be seen

but is gunjou no tani released as a ringtone too?

GRACE 11th January 2009 08:10 AM

I think so, it was on alan's site anyway

love in music 11th January 2009 08:44 AM

i'm curious, does alan write any of her lyrics?

pommy48 11th January 2009 08:46 AM

apparently she wrote watashi no tsuki? but not sure @_@

alan for sure probably doesn't write the lyrics for her japanese songs
for her chinese...maybe not either cause wikipedia doesn't list her for any of the lyrics so far

Melon Panda 11th January 2009 10:07 AM

She's still not fluent in Japanese, right? I can imagine her writing her Chinese songs, though.

*Petit* 11th January 2009 10:15 AM

Maybe she wrote the songs and an interpreter wrote the translations to japanese.

pommy48 11th January 2009 10:49 AM

well do her singles say translator too in the credits?

KarenPang 11th January 2009 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Yum!Fruit_Salad! (Post 1775795)
Fruit analogies~
She should sing about janitors next!

:rofl

Quote:

Originally Posted by pommy408 (Post 1775799)
haha i always think next time, she's gonna sing about bananas..don't know why, but one day she might

but really, the taxi driver in KnT, i still don't get that o.O

me also

no link frankly

Maemi 11th January 2009 02:31 PM

I don't like the new song :/

freedreamer 11th January 2009 03:22 PM

Gunjou no Tani is really special. The MV is gorgeous...the song is quite weird...Well Cocco, composed it..so no surprise there. I didnt really like the high pitched parts at the end...sounded like she/the producer just wanted something there to fill up the music..

GRACE 11th January 2009 07:12 PM

The Chinese EP Doesn't mention alan at all up in the writers spot.

I assume she's written lyrics before, but whether she's sung any of the lyrics she's written yet, we don't know

Mirai Noah 11th January 2009 08:39 PM

In the very beginning of the song, her voice reminded me of Hitomi Shimatani.

This song is awesome! :D

Yum!Fruit_Salad! 11th January 2009 09:15 PM

Uta-Net doesn't alan for writing any lyrics. Even if she wrote some in Chinese and somebody then translated them into Japanese she would still get credit.

pommy48 11th January 2009 09:34 PM

for now, alan can concentrate on her beautiful voice and once she's more settled in, then she can write her own lyrics!

GRACE 11th January 2009 09:37 PM

I know she's made comments about writing lyrics before, at least I think she has. I'm sure she's written, I'd bet that she's sort of being taught how one writes a song. After all, when the singer writes what they sing, their songs are more touching, so avex is probably on that.

pommy48 11th January 2009 09:45 PM

haha i'm still waiting for my ASFXX like song! talking about her move to japan...blah blah :D

Yum!Fruit_Salad! 11th January 2009 10:27 PM

If alan just wants to sing and not write lyrics, I'd be ok with that.

love in music 11th January 2009 10:31 PM

^ yup me too i was just curious. it doesn't bother me. i love her voice so much

GRACE 11th January 2009 10:53 PM

That's true too, because she usually has great song writers who do wonderful lyrics anyway~

pommy48 11th January 2009 10:58 PM

yep :D but maybe in her future releases, i bet she'll write one of the songs~ some people just have a natural talent when it comes to writing lyrics, so it's fine if alan don't write her lyrics....hehe it's not like we understand it anyways XD

mcken200 11th January 2009 11:18 PM

omg i just heard Gunjou no Tani and omg i love it !!! she has a new thing the ho ho thing is adorable ! cant believe so much has happened since i was away !

but since i was away i have made some Gunjou no tani and Chi Bi ringtones so feel free to download

gunjou
http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84914

chi bi
http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showthread.php?t=84916

pommy48 11th January 2009 11:43 PM

alan in zipper 2009-02

Yum!Fruit_Salad! 12th January 2009 02:07 AM

The plastic food is cuter than her clothing >.>

pikachama~ 12th January 2009 02:10 AM

"Ringo no hana momo"

lol apple and peach and flower :)

i talked with some friends(all of our japanese is sub-par) it's a little odd.
if she uses hiragana it's talking about an apple's pattern.
if she uses kanji it's more like giberish...
I tried a few translators and got more or less the same thing.


btw. I love gunjou no tani!!!!!!!!!! I'm getting tired of her BORING slow burning songs. Red Cliff, KnT, MnA are snore-fests I want some thing with more power like hitotsu, ashita e no sanka, my stage, kagome.... anything that has some sort of power!!!

pommy48 12th January 2009 02:11 AM

so true, i guess she like to dress like a traditional modern-like tibetan? maybe that's why, though those fringe boots are popular i believe

haha alan loves nature!

KarenPang 12th January 2009 02:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Yum!Fruit_Salad! (Post 1776892)
The plastic food is cuter than her clothing >.>

LOL :laugh unfortunately but true Melody

Quote:

Originally Posted by pommy408 (Post 1776899)
so true, i guess she like to dress like a traditional modern-like tibetan? maybe that's why, though those fringe boots are popular i believe

haha alan loves nature!

you don't say Jasmine

pommy48 12th January 2009 04:08 AM

so just wondering, is GnT someone's favorite alan song of all time? I think it's my fave now <3

GRACE 12th January 2009 04:10 AM

It's close, mine is still Shin Sen, but Gunjou's slowly edging it out of first place XD

Kaiouforever 12th January 2009 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by pommy408 (Post 1777037)
so just wondering, is GnT someone's favorite alan song of all time? I think it's my fave now <3

Same here! It represents everything I love about alan. =]

GRACE 12th January 2009 04:12 AM

I think everyone can agree that it's one of her best~ I hope it does well on the charts...

pommy48 12th January 2009 04:14 AM

lol after 180 listens, i still get that heartstopping feeling and i keep on getting goosebumps! (well it's cold right now, so maybe it's not GnT :roflmao)
i just feel GnT is like everything i love about music rolled into one song
it's...how should i explain it...it's so beautiful that it makes me cry

KarenPang 12th January 2009 07:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pommy408 (Post 1777037)
so just wondering, is GnT someone's favorite alan song of all time? I think it's my fave now <3

it's officially 1 of my fave songs of alan now , behind KnT , Sora Uta

Quote:

Originally Posted by pommy408 (Post 1777046)
lol after 180 listens, i still get that heartstopping feeling and i keep on getting goosebumps! (well it's cold right now, so maybe it's not GnT :roflmao)
i just feel GnT is like everything i love about music rolled into one song
it's...how should i explain it...it's so beautiful that it makes me cry

:rofl 180 listens Jasmine ? that's something

pommy48 12th January 2009 07:21 AM

:luv2 well it's such a beautiful song~ so of course i listen to it that many times! :luv2

gah...just remembered something, i never downloaded megumi no ame, but my ears are only for GnT now~ *floats on air*

KarenPang 12th January 2009 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by pommy408 (Post 1777197)
:luv2 well it's such a beautiful song~ so of course i listen to it that many times! :luv2

gah...just remembered something, i never downloaded megumi no ame, but my ears are only for GnT now~ *floats on air*

agree that Gunjou no Tani's really nice & :O you never downloaded Megumi no Ame ? Why ? @_@

pommy48 12th January 2009 07:27 AM

lol i forgot, and i felt it was generic, so didn't feel like it.....no wait :dead2, i did download it, i just forgot to import into itunes...ah smart :thud

yeah, so anyways, that watashi no tsuki song, have we heard other info about it?

kakumei 12th January 2009 07:47 AM

didn't see it mentioned unless I just completely missed it, but HMV and shinseido both list another music video (currently untitled) included on the DVD for first press editions, for that bonus track whatever it ends up being.

http://www.hmv.co.jp/product/detail/3514191
http://www.shinseido.co.jp/cgi-bin/W...r=AVCD-23695/B

KarenPang 12th January 2009 07:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kakumei (Post 1777232)
didn't see it mentioned unless I just completely missed it, but HMV and shinseido both list another music video (currently untitled) included on the DVD for first press editions, for that bonus track whatever it ends up being.

http://www.hmv.co.jp/product/detail/3514191
http://www.shinseido.co.jp/cgi-bin/W...r=AVCD-23695/B

wow :O

that will surely give more incentives for people to preorder her album , well hopefully

lilchan 12th January 2009 08:08 AM

I really love Gunjou No Tani, although Ashita e No Sanka, and Sora Uta..and Chi Bi are better songs for me.But I love the power in the song, when I hear "joozu"..I get a weird feeling, I dont know why, but it sounds out of place?XP
and the high notes are odd...o.o but the 2nd half of the song is just LOVE.

jbrat2219 12th January 2009 08:43 AM

Woah, I've been out of the alan loop for a bit! New album???

Cool beans :banana1

KarenPang 12th January 2009 08:51 AM

^ yes dude finally her debut album has seen the day/light :laugh

it will be out on 4th March , exactly a month later after Gunjou no Tani

AyUta 12th January 2009 08:54 AM

LOL OMG....this thread is going by soooo quickly :dead2 Insane.

Anyways, I REALLY like GNT. It's very beautiful to me.

KarenPang 12th January 2009 08:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AyUta (Post 1777350)
LOL OMG....this thread is going by soooo quickly :dead2 Insane.

Anyways, I REALLY like GNT. It's very beautiful to me.

not as quick as the Koda thread/s Temmy :innocent

I just wonder how will the acoustic version sounds like ? I hope it will be a good 1 like the original

AyUta 12th January 2009 08:56 AM

^ Like seriously :laugh

There's going to be an acoustic version? x_x; I had no idea. Thanks karen. I don't know though, this original version is AMAZING. I seriously adore/love her vocals in this song. Geez, alan has some unique talent. Beautiful too.

jbrat2219 12th January 2009 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KarenPang (Post 1777344)
^ yes dude finally her debut album has seen the day/light :laugh

it will be out on 4th March , exactly a month later after Gunjou no Tani

That's only a few days after my birthday :D I might just treat myself <3

love in music 12th January 2009 09:02 AM

omg yeah i'm so curious to hear the acoustic version. i'm sure it'll be great

KarenPang 12th January 2009 11:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AyUta (Post 1777359)
^ Like seriously :laugh

There's going to be an acoustic version? x_x; I had no idea. Thanks karen. I don't know though, this original version is AMAZING. I seriously adore/love her vocals in this song. Geez, alan has some unique talent. Beautiful too.

yes Temmy there will be an acoustic take of Gunjou no Tani & this will be the 1st time for alan not to include a B-side unlike her previous singles where you get maybe 1-3 B-sides from her

this time round , just the acoustic version of the A-side will be the B-side in disguise

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 1777361)
That's only a few days after my birthday :D I might just treat myself <3

awesome dude :D

kawaii otaku 12th January 2009 01:19 PM

Shin Sen didn't have a real b-side either, Karen ;p

KarenPang 12th January 2009 02:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kawaii otaku (Post 1777543)
Shin Sen didn't have a real b-side either, Karen ;p

lol I guess except in RED CLIFF , you get the Japanese & the original Chinese take of the same song

Kaiouforever 12th January 2009 06:12 PM

Isn't there another big release on March 4th? I hope it doesn't hurt alan's sales

jbrat2219 12th January 2009 07:27 PM

All I can think of is Kumi's single... which I don't think will hurt her sales.

aqua_crystal 12th January 2009 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AyUta (Post 1777350)
LOL OMG....this thread is going by soooo quickly :dead2 Insane.

Anyways, I REALLY like GNT. It's very beautiful to me.

Hmmm.... is GNT out?? *checks previous posts AGAIN*

EDIT: Yeah, the PV is great. It's got some really good scenery... the song is good. But I feel this is going to end up like MnA for me. I'll get addicted to it eventually!!! But Chi Bi is waaaaaay better....

Oh yeah, AyUta I totally agree. The alan threads move SUPER fast!! Just like her releases! :P It's all coming together now!! :D

jbrat2219 12th January 2009 08:40 PM

So I'm watching Gunjou no Tani now, and I must say! I love the song and alan looks beautiful!!! She has this very natural beauty going on and I love it! I love that white sweater she's wearing, too!

Random questions.... where does this PV take place? Her homeland?

And how do you pronounce her name... AH-lan or a-LAHN?

Sorry for the stupidity ^^;

aqua_crystal 12th January 2009 08:49 PM

^^I pronounce it as ah-laan.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaiouforever (Post 1777705)
Isn't there another big release on March 4th? I hope it doesn't hurt alan's sales

Right now, the only thing that can hurt alan's sales is the ridiculous price of her debut album and the lack of new songs in it!! :headache

GRACE 12th January 2009 08:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 1777763)
All I can think of is Kumi's single... which I don't think will hurt her sales.

Hikki's putting out an album =(...

jbrat2219 12th January 2009 08:54 PM

Oh ouch! I hope alan survives! Hikki's a HUGE seller =/

Corrsgirl1 12th January 2009 08:56 PM

I love her music. I just orderd the Chinese Red Cliff single and I can not wait for her Japanese album! Are there any track lists for it floting around yet?

aqua_crystal 12th January 2009 09:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GRACE (Post 1777859)
Hikki's putting out an album =(...

Woah, now THAT'S a long run for alan....

GRACE 12th January 2009 09:04 PM

And, unless avex bumps it or has bumped it and I don't know it yet, BoA's new Best album is supposed to come out that day too

jbrat2219 12th January 2009 09:11 PM

The odds seems to be against her, do you think Avex has a lot of faith in her?

GRACE 12th January 2009 09:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 1777886)
The odds seems to be against her, do you think Avex has a lot of faith in her?

Or they've given up hope.

But, even at these odds a top 10 isn't impossible. She has the single sales to sort of think that her debut album will be a little more successful. Plus, maybe the fans she's picked up are people who generally only buy albums.

jbrat2219 12th January 2009 09:18 PM

I hope so! Her music is really good! But I think the album is expensive because they're not sure how well it will do and they want to get as much money from it as possible!

aqua_crystal 12th January 2009 09:36 PM

^^....which, in my opinion,was a ridiculous move. If you really want people to try out an artist like alan, the album should at least be at a reasonable price. No one (unless they're super rich people who like to waste money) would want to pick up her album and try her music out if it has a price like THAT.

Well, I guess if the covers are super amazing, maybe some people just might try her out. Who knows?

jbrat2219 12th January 2009 09:48 PM

I'm convinced Avex has no idea what they're doing anymore... They don't know how to handle or promote their artist...

GRACE 12th January 2009 09:49 PM

I know, they just don't get it. It really is too bad for their artists

jbrat2219 12th January 2009 09:53 PM

Yeah especially for a fresh new talent like alan! People like her don't come along often Avex :O

GRACE 12th January 2009 10:00 PM

Thought I gotta say, better her at avex, then at some other label that'd probably send her NO promo. Look what Sony(I think it's Sony) did to Yuna Ito >.>

Yum!Fruit_Salad! 12th January 2009 11:54 PM

^ Sony just sent Yuna's promo to the wrong place.

jbrat2219 12th January 2009 11:59 PM

My gosh! Where did they send it to?

I'm going to get a job at Avex and be in control of the promotional tactics :)

rookies 13th January 2009 12:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pommy408 (Post 1775220)
ok i uploaded to youtube too


and this is the mp3rip from the pv
http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showth...16#post1775216

Had to search so many pages back to find the youtube video. XD

Looks nice. ^^

AyUta 13th January 2009 12:18 AM

Wow, there is definitely a lot of competition for alan on March 4th. Especially if it's up against Hikki. She's a strong seller.

Yum!Fruit_Salad! 13th January 2009 12:20 AM

Sony promoted Yuna outside of major areas of Tokyo and Shibuya or at least that's what I've read.

pommy48 13th January 2009 12:27 AM

^ :roflmao
well sony is just absolutely brilliant aren't they :roflmao

Quote:

Originally Posted by iyrocks05 (Post 1778102)
Had to search so many pages back to find the youtube video. XD

Looks nice. ^^

oh you can just try and subscribe to my youtube account~ i'll probably be updating it whenever i find new alan vids :D

rookies 13th January 2009 12:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pommy408 (Post 1778121)
^ :roflmao
well sony is just absolutely brilliant aren't they :roflmao


oh you can just try and subscribe to my youtube account~ i'll probably be updating it whenever i find new alan vids :D

Ok, I will. ^^ :)

mcken200 13th January 2009 12:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 1777928)
I'm convinced Avex has no idea what they're doing anymore... They don't know how to handle or promote their artist...

yeah i agree ive lost so much faith in avex now

♥ you! 13th January 2009 01:18 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 1777928)
I'm convinced Avex has no idea what they're doing anymore... They don't know how to handle or promote their artist...

I still don't understand why she hasn't been to major music shows like Music Station, HEY x3, CDTV and Utaban yet. Is her Japanese not strong enough or something? Cause those kinds of music shows are amazing promo.

With the way avex is handling Maki goto's career too...I dunno what they are doing with their new artists :tired

jbrat2219 13th January 2009 01:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ♥ you! (Post 1778187)
I still don't understand why she hasn't been to major music shows like Music Station, HEY x3, CDTV and Utaban yet. Is her Japanese not strong enough or something? Cause those kinds of music shows are amazing promo.

With the way avex is handling Maki goto's career too...I dunno what they are doing with their new artists :tired

:thud

WHAT? :shakehead I didn't know she was never on any of those shows! That would explain the lack of TV lives! My gosh, they could hire her a translator, they do it for other foreign celebrities...

pommy48 13th January 2009 01:29 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ♥ you! (Post 1778187)
I still don't understand why she hasn't been to major music shows like Music Station, HEY x3, CDTV and Utaban yet. Is her Japanese not strong enough or something? Cause those kinds of music shows are amazing promo.

With the way avex is handling Maki goto's career too...I dunno what they are doing with their new artists :tired

i only remember music japan so far @_@
and music fighter

Yum!Fruit_Salad! 13th January 2009 01:39 AM

Doesn't Johnny's have a stronghold on Music Station? It's like the reason why Tohoshinki has never been on?
Lately, to me avex doesn't care unless you're one of their money makers. I know Leah didn't know Japanese when she first appeared on TV and they had a translator for her so I don't see why avex won't do that.
Their attitude is "they weren't getting recongized before, what will make it change now?'.


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