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Paparazzi 17th December 2010 04:21 PM

The last two albums were released during the slowest sales periods of the year, while this is being released during the busiest. I expect either a virtually non-existent drop or a small increase.

jbrat2219 17th December 2010 04:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Paparazzi (Post 2584143)
The last two albums were released during the slowest sales periods of the year, while this is being released during the busiest. I expect either a virtually non-existent drop or a small increase.

I'm hoping for an increase!

koumori 17th December 2010 04:36 PM

At the topic that Ayu should re-invent herself..well, she does it with nearly other album. I can see people's point, but WHATEVER she does there's always going to be a group of people disappointed, and a group of people 'meh' about it (who'll still listen but prefer other stuff), and then a group who'll love it. Like Dream ON, AHS was pretty 50/50 about it.

Plus, Rody! made a really good point..that since she's so popular, mostly everyone has already decided if they like or dislike her. Also the most common age that listen to her is growing older. She needs to think about that as well, before thinking of changing her music styles.

In the end, I think she'll just make little changes as always. She can't please everyone, which is why when this is brought up flame wars start ;)

isthisLOL? 17th December 2010 05:00 PM

I think it's always weird when people ask Ayu to change or reinvent, there's visual and sound-reinventions all the time, her performances changed, even her lyrics are changing a bit. Like...compare RnRC and Love Songs, the visual images are extremely different, the music videos are quite different and the songs...RnRC was more or elss themed after diversity with some slight classic rock influences in most songs while Love Songs is what happens when strings, guitars, vocals, a piano and (acoustic and electro) beats have an orgy. The only songs in Ayu's recent past that I would compare to the sound we know of it so far in any way are count down and Last Links, both generally unknown to people that don't own the RnRC album and both MUCH more raw in terms of arrangement.

Pieces_of_SEVEN 17th December 2010 06:26 PM

I choose to remain positive. I think it will get 300-320k.

rakeru 17th December 2010 07:35 PM

^ That's what I was thinking.

And as long as she's #1, it's all good IMO.

Andrenekoi 17th December 2010 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by isthisLOL? (Post 2584160)
I think it's always weird when people ask Ayu to change or reinvent, there's visual and sound-reinventions all the time, her performances changed, even her lyrics are changing a bit. Like...compare RnRC and Love Songs, the visual images are extremely different, the music videos are quite different and the songs...RnRC was more or elss themed after diversity with some slight classic rock influences in most songs while Love Songs is what happens when strings, guitars, vocals, a piano and (acoustic and electro) beats have an orgy. The only songs in Ayu's recent past that I would compare to the sound we know of it so far in any way are count down and Last Links, both generally unknown to people that don't own the RnRC album and both MUCH more raw in terms of arrangement.

This... most of her albums have a new main sound and a new main image...

lilchan 17th December 2010 08:25 PM

SNSD is no competition for Ayu. sorry.

Nackar_91 17th December 2010 10:32 PM

I don't want to be rude or pessimistic, but I doubt a rise will ever occur. There might be a smaller drop at times, bt a drop nonetheless. This is entirely natural. Seiko Matsuda used to be the undisputed pop queen. Here she is barely scratching 20k. It happens. Not saying ayu is there yet but it's bound to happen someday and instead of fearing it we should be glad for any succes she still has and for the great music she's putting out.

Reinventing yourself generally only works if you've dropped quickly to a low, not if you're slowly sliding away. It generally looks forced in the second scenario.

In short, go Ayu, we love you.

chu-lips 17th December 2010 10:38 PM

last weeks ago there was hikki vs kara on album chart
n there will be ayu vs shoshi in a few week latter..

adantatu2 18th December 2010 12:05 AM

but this HOOT album of SNSD is just a compilation with her korean songs, isn't their debut japanese album. They aren't a problem YET.

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SNSD is no competition for Ayu. sorry.
Actually, they are selling a lot with Genie and Gee, both are selling more than 100k.

Honestly, the previews of Love songs are really awesome, i love them!!! For me this album is gonna be better than RnRC, i hope a rise in her sales!!!

StarSUCKER 18th December 2010 03:36 AM

I don't see what the problem is. As Rody! said, the digital age causes constant drops in CD sales. That's just how it is, for everyone. If Ayu is #1, I'm more than happy.

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Originally Posted by SURREAL__RAINBOW (Post 2583883)
ugh I hate this! AVEX is gonna milk her even harder :weep

While I don't disagree that Avex likes to squeeze every last drop of cash out of...well, everything...I don't think Ayu is your typical overworked pop star. Remember: she's a workaholic. She hasn't taken any kind of real vacation over her entire career. If she wanted to go on hiatus, for example, I highly doubt Avex would complain, because she works so damn much of her own volition. But she won't take a hiatus (at least, if she ever does, I can't imagine it would be more than a year, if that). This is what she loves to do. So I don't know if it's fair to say that Avex is "milking her." Milking her work, sure. But they're not actually forcing her to work constantly. Know what I mean?

TeddyGrahams 18th December 2010 03:42 AM

STOP being so pessimistic and go support and buy her album!!!

Haha I always wanted to say that. :D Can't wait for my copy! And great numbers! :) Always number 1 in my heart!

jbrat2219 18th December 2010 03:44 AM

^ I bought two copies! xD; I did my part, twice.

TeddyGrahams 18th December 2010 03:51 AM

^ Hey brit! Long time no see!

Haha I was about to buy the CD+DvD one too, but I never really watched the PVs more than once. Not sure if its worth it.

TITANIC 18th December 2010 08:45 AM

i'd love to see this album sell 200K

love in music 18th December 2010 09:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 2584245)
This... most of her albums have a new main sound and a new main image...

I agree with this. I see some people complain (fans and non fans) that she never does anything new and all of her songs sound the same but I think the complete opposite.

jbrat2219 18th December 2010 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by identity (Post 2584876)
I agree with this. I see some people complain (fans and non fans) that she never does anything new and all of her songs sound the same but I think the complete opposite.

Those are people who don't really listen to her music. I mean really listen. Her music is the most versatile of any other J-pop female artist I know.

jbrat2219 18th December 2010 08:36 PM

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Originally Posted by identity (Post 2584876)
I agree with this. I see some people complain (fans and non fans) that she never does anything new and all of her songs sound the same but I think the complete opposite.

Those are people who don't really listen to her music. I mean really listen. They confuse "Ayu essence" with similarity. Her music is the most versatile of any other J-pop female artist I know.

Bad Wolf 20th December 2010 01:38 AM

Most people who complain about that stuff aren't real key decision makers, though.


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