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freedreamer 27th March 2012 12:25 PM

LOL!!! if madge wasnt there...Ayu would have been 1st!!!! >.<
but this is so cool..Ayu and her idol haha

Tony G 27th March 2012 12:26 PM

Easily the most disappointing sales of her career. A shame. FIVE sold so well for a mini, this should not have happened.

This is a real #2. As others said, GUILTY should have been #1 in its first week but the double Oricon week screwed her over. There's no excuse here - it just did not sell well. At all.

Let's see how it does in term of sales longetivity. Ayu has performed well lately in this area. No doubt the biggest Arena Tour calendar of her career is going to keep this in the charts.

SURREAL__RAINBOW 27th March 2012 12:27 PM

I hope she stays around 1k for a few more weeks, I hope she reaches 150k at least

ALfromHELLSING 27th March 2012 12:37 PM

There's one thing I don't understand about Ayu's and many other artists sales in Japan in general. Her sales r pretty much going ONLY downhill after RAINBOW (I'm not counting best albums here). So it's not about music quality. If u look at western artists u will see that some albums sell better some don't sell that good. They have their ups and downs. Here sales just keep on going downhill. Is she like losing 100k fans every year or Japan just doesn't bout her anymore. Seems like Namie is the only artist who really has ups and downs. And again looking at Namie you can' say it's bout physical sales only.

LONJJONG 27th March 2012 01:06 PM

Let's be positive!
Being #1 or not, Ayu is still the queen of J-pop ^^

ComatoseBunnySnatcher 27th March 2012 02:08 PM

ITS THE BEGINNING OF THE END o________x
KODA KUMI'S #1 STREAK WITH "JapoNese" BEAT AYU...

KUUCHIE KWEEN BEAT PARTING QUEEN x____X

ayumisrael 27th March 2012 02:10 PM

1st Week
Position: #2
Estimated Sales: 93,128
Official Total Sales: 97,691

2nd Week

1st Day
Position: #2
Sales: 3,735
Total Sales: 101,426

toniayu 27th March 2012 02:13 PM

^LOL xD She's #2 everyday since the first day...? Finally +100.000!Congrats

AyuBlackwind 27th March 2012 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ComatoseBunnySnatcher (Post 2842814)
ITS THE BEGINNING OF THE END o________x
KODA KUMI'S #1 STREAK WITH "JapoNese" BEAT AYU...

KUUCHIE KWEEN BEAT PARTING QUEEN x____X

Yes, but Koda Kumi achieved this with a crap load of promotion and still barely did better than Ayu's album which has little promotion in comparison, in an eight week span.

ComatoseBunnySnatcher 27th March 2012 02:21 PM

My cousin is a huge KK fan and I was sorta dissapointed. Not in Ayu, but her fans.

Anchang 27th March 2012 02:23 PM

+100.000 Congrats :) it`s good :)

AyUmIXx 27th March 2012 02:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 2842819)
1st Week
Position: #2
Estimated Sales: 93,128
Official Total Sales: 97,691

2nd Week

1st Day
Position: #2
Sales: 3,735
Total Sales: 101,426

its pretty good!

YUKARI 27th March 2012 03:00 PM

yaaa!!!!! 100k! I'm so happy about it :D

at least it didn't seriously flop :laugh

chu-lips 27th March 2012 03:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Alucard from Hellsing (Post 2842771)
There's one thing I don't understand about Ayu's and many other artists sales in Japan in general. Her sales r pretty much going ONLY downhill after RAINBOW (I'm not counting best albums here). So it's not about music quality. If u look at western artists u will see that some albums sell better some don't sell that good. They have their ups and downs. Here sales just keep on going downhill. Is she like losing 100k fans every year or Japan just doesn't bout her anymore. Seems like Namie is the only artist who really has ups and downs. And again looking at Namie you can' say it's bout physical sales only.

it happends in all over the world music market
an artist will sell super high in their peak then go down little by little as their peak is over
as for japan the artists releasing in tight pace
even when they r in their peak they will release even 2 month one after another untill the public gets tired of them n following by decreasing sales
while the US artists release even years after an album
the marketing is also diffrrent
US artist tend to release re-cut single while japan rarely.do that..
it's common thing to get lower sales after years in music industry
it's another story when an artist have a hit song then raise the sales again just like namie did
ayu will raise her sales again when she had a big hit n japan take an attention to her again
japanese people think that ayu had retire after rainboe
only hardcore fan who know her realease album..
so ayu need to be noticed again by general public to get a better sales

PoetGirl 27th March 2012 03:09 PM

well its different and not comparable imo. starting just with the age thing, I believe nowadays hit makers in west such as katy perry or lady gaga are in her 30s and just started, ayu in the same age is so old like ancient history in japan lol

KuuXAyu-fan 27th March 2012 03:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AyuBlackwind (Post 2842824)
Yes, but Koda Kumi achieved this with a crap load of promotion and still barely did better than Ayu's album which has little promotion in comparison, in an eight week span.

CRAP LOAD of promotion? What? It doesn't matter when you have 17 PVs on an album when nobody has heard any of them. That's like saying stuffing an album with 30 tracks is promotion. Kumi did nothing to promote her album the month of release and had no tie-ins for her album tracks.

SURREAL__RAINBOW 27th March 2012 03:12 PM

I don't think that person meant the 17 pvs specifically as promotion :shrug

KuuXAyu-fan 27th March 2012 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SURREAL__RAINBOW (Post 2842859)
I don't think that person meant the 17 pvs specifically as promotion :shrug

I wonder what he meant though. Since she had no TV lives for the month of the release and just magazines ala Party Queen. IMO both fans of both artists should be proud of the numbers because there wasn't any promo for both. Having a #1 over a #2 doesn't make it a bigger success so both did well at the end of the day.

isthisLOL? 27th March 2012 03:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KuuXAyu-fan (Post 2842858)
CRAP LOAD of promotion? What? It doesn't matter when you have 17 PVs on an album when nobody has heard any of them. That's like saying stuffing an album with 30 tracks is promotion. Kumi did nothing to promote her album the month of release and had no tie-ins for her album tracks.

She had quite promoted singles leading up to it and the PVs were shown on TV(at least some). Ayumi had no singles and only 4 PVs in total, which apparently weren't even shown on some channels.

extepan 27th March 2012 03:24 PM

gosh, party queen is not a number one album! :(


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