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LEOyumi 14th September 2005 02:59 PM

It's a long time since Ayu's single didn't reach #1, the last one was Daybreak, wasn't it? I hope this one reaches in the weekly chart, if not in this week, in the other one.

LNany 14th September 2005 03:02 PM

As same people has stated the charts are for <b>13</b>th september... probably not all shops were selling HEAVEN yet because the official release is on <b>14</b>th... i'm sure she'll be #1 tomorrow and #1 of the week!! (or so i hope... xD)

Mad_Cactuar 14th September 2005 03:08 PM

^ COOL CAKE!!! They shouldnt allow shops to sell singles on separate days.. It disturbs the charts!

jasonrey 14th September 2005 03:54 PM

there's been a rumor going that the 1st place which is Kanjani 8, Johnny Jimushyo, has ugly stuffs with oricon, to always get the top position regardless of their popularity and the quality of their music.

ohsixthirty 14th September 2005 03:57 PM

^oooh, i love a good conspiracy theory! :D

elvis810 14th September 2005 04:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jasonrey
there's been a rumor going that the 1st place which is Kanjani 8, Johnny Jimushyo, has ugly stuffs with oricon, to always get the top position regardless of their popularity and the quality of their music.

yes, i heard of that before. They usually get No. 1 on the first day, but lose it immediately. Coz oricon still has to show the sales number every week, which cannot be fraud. So i guess ayu can surely get to #1 for tmr and this week

URANUS 14th September 2005 04:18 PM

I'm completely shocked! Don't tell me Ayu's no.1 streak will end with HEAVEN because it can't! This is the only single that i bought --- not to mention the japanese version.

Delirium-Zer0 14th September 2005 04:22 PM

I'm sure ayu will have #1 for the week. Heck, if that group that's #1 really does have dealings with oricon i'd look at some different charts for today. Besides, the daily chart is really only there to get an idea of how the week will go... no one pays attention to it seriously. When people say an ayu single debuts at #1, they tend to mean the weekly chart, because that's the one that really can't be faked.

what are other charts saying about HEAVEN's performance?

ohsixthirty 14th September 2005 04:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delirium-Zer0
what are other charts saying about HEAVEN's performance?

i want to know the same, there ARE other charts besides oricon out there.

djinn 14th September 2005 04:48 PM

sigh.. dunno really wat to say.. is da oricon still counting or dats da final result?

elepop 14th September 2005 04:50 PM

Who cares? The single rocks!

Mirai Noah 14th September 2005 04:58 PM

I'm shocked that she didn't debut at #1 on the Daily Charts, but I hope she'll make #1 on the weekly one.

benslave4u 14th September 2005 05:07 PM

ha ha ha this is sooo interesting but oh well!! it's cool!! Like in my opinion I just think the timing isn't right for this single! Like I think she need to have something more cheerful like everyone is having the "back to school blues." I don't know but it's just what I think

Taishaku 14th September 2005 05:11 PM

I think she will do better in the future, HEAVEN is a great single anyways.
These news didn't shocked me at all, but i wonder how avex will take this...

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ruixiong89 14th September 2005 05:15 PM

Well, it's 14th September in Asia already ... (I mean it's 14th September now in America and 15th September in Asia) so the sales are very much as such but don't worry! I'm sure they'll go back up again. Afterall, the consumption of singles in Japan is so rapid it's very much possible that the ranking goes back up again.

Yup, weekly sales count so don't freak out! I'm very surprised too but I think it's more of the time when the sales come in. Even as the number of sales come in, people are still getting the single so yup, it'll definitely be higher!

[edit]I've checked the Oricon Website ... yup, the sale results came in on 13th September, which basically means they aren't too reliable and accurate to gauge the sales results as of the moment. Technically, this means that the single "has not" debutted yet. Check the rankings again tomorrow. I'm sure HEAVEN would have moved up by then.

*Petit* 14th September 2005 05:41 PM

:gnash :gnash :gnash :gnash :gnash :gnash :gnash :gnash


THere is a nother chart called soundscan.

extepan 14th September 2005 05:55 PM

sad...
but then i thoguht the sales of heaven will be hurt by the release date as i previously said on another thread. heaven is released so soon after fairyland, and i thought heaven may follow the footsteps of & / forgiveness.

DerrickRocks 14th September 2005 05:56 PM

well didn't they say over and over japan is getting tired of ayu eversince Rainbow?

Annabelle 14th September 2005 06:19 PM

I'm not really surprised. #2 is really awesome, I'm happy for Ayu. I think everybody should. I bet tomorrow she'll be on top again. Don't worry :)

TeamAyu 14th September 2005 06:29 PM

DON'T FREAK OUT PEOPLE! She may actually be #2 but most chances are she's #1. When the date actually changes to Sept. 14 the rankings will be different. I've seen this before, like I believe Gackt was underneath the ranking of Morning Musume in the dailies a day ahead of the actually release date and on the actually release date Gackt actually had more sales than Morning Musume for the actually release day. So don't worry peeps she might still be #1 but if not than still be happy that after so many years she still puts our music THIS GOOD.


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