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joesalvation 28th October 2005 01:58 PM

BUT!!! the main thing is i dun understand y the b ayu was smiling like so so....as if she wanted a ayu to disapear

Yarumi 29th October 2005 03:22 AM

no... the main point of this PV is coming to terms with your past... so in the end Ayu is smiling because she has finally accepted her past... In the beginning she is almost haunted by it... and then she learns to confront it, and it doesn't end up being so bad... and the ayu fades away because it symbolises that Ayu has completely come to terms with herself... and isn't haunted anymore


ron234 - no one is wrong here. Ayu's PV's can be interpreted into many ways... I'm sure Ayu does this on purpose... in this PV you can plug whatever part of you that you haven't accepted... who's to say someone doesn't truly accept their homosexuality... they can plug and viola! makes sense ;)

PS - I'm not saying ayu is coming to terms with her homosexuality! we ALL know it's her past self she's dealing with... just thought I'd make that completely clear befroe someone bends my words :rolleyes

elepop 29th October 2005 03:36 AM

Not gay. Period.

Ayufan11 29th October 2005 04:12 AM

Not straight. Period.

Keishi 29th October 2005 10:48 AM

hahaha...nice comment both of you

Yarumi: I think it's like her past finally coming back to her again and she lost her mature sides....if she accept it, I guess then another ayu (the "C" Ayu, with both personalities mixed into one) should came up...

elepop 29th October 2005 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Ayufan11
Not straight. Period.

Uh. She is.

Yarumi 29th October 2005 05:57 PM

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Originally Posted by asongforXX
Uh. She is.

any proof? didn't think so.


edit: And don't say she has a boyfriend. That doesn't mean a thing nowadays

joesalvation 30th October 2005 01:16 AM

uh...but honestly....she c ayu looks really old....or is it just me?...she looks like she lacks sleep....

Keishi 30th October 2005 07:37 AM

anybody realize that one of the ayus is fatter?

fεяnαndδ 30th October 2005 03:19 PM

I'm confused; I don't have the actual PV but there's screencaps on Eneabba. http://eneabba.net/ayu/video/videoclips/33.Rainbow.htm If, according to ChrisKay, there's an A Ayu and a B Ayu, A Ayu must be the one in pink, B Ayu must be the one in red... but who's the one in orange? Throughout the PV, Ayu wears pink, red, orange, white and black. I'm confused.

elepop 30th October 2005 03:50 PM

Why are we talking about Ayu being fatter and older?


Quote:

Originally Posted by Yarumi
any proof? didn't think so.


edit: And don't say she has a boyfriend. That doesn't mean a thing nowadays

Yes she is. Because she has a boyfriend and they've been together for years and years. If that doesn't mean anything for you, that's not my problem.

Keishi 2nd November 2005 10:11 AM

ayu__is__destiny : well, ignore the colors...her dress change from scene to scene at that pv, maybe to emphasize the "RAINBOW" title...what I mean is the chaser and the chased ones are B & A....the first one to come up at the PV is the A Ayu, and the one that discreetly watching her from distance (like she's going to eat her :lol) is the B ayu....

asongforXX : no, I mean a few seconds after this cene, (eneabba just don't have that moment! so I post this one)
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http://eneabba.net/ayu/video/videocl....RAINBOW51.jpg
when she sticks her face to the B ayu...the A AYu face DOES look fatter....u should re-watch the PV....lol

fεяnαndδ 2nd November 2005 12:38 PM

A Ayu looks fat early on in those Eneabba clips, when she's walking up the steps. She has a fat behind. XD

Yarumi 2nd November 2005 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ayu__is__destiny
I'm confused; I don't have the actual PV but there's screencaps on Eneabba. http://eneabba.net/ayu/video/videoclips/33.Rainbow.htm If, according to ChrisKay, there's an A Ayu and a B Ayu, A Ayu must be the one in pink, B Ayu must be the one in red... but who's the one in orange? Throughout the PV, Ayu wears pink, red, orange, white and black. I'm confused.

Yeah Ayu wears different outfits in the PV, well the same outfit different color... I guess she was going for that whole rainbow effect ;)

I don't see a fatter Ayu... maybe the camera angle?

Quote:

Originally Posted by asongforXX
Yes she is. Because she has a boyfriend and they've been together for years and years. If that doesn't mean anything for you, that's not my problem.

For your information alot of people that are gay try to have a ;'straight' relationship. So having a boyfriend, getting married, having a kid... doesn't mean that someone could not be gay because there are ALOT of them that try to have what the standards refer to as a 'normal' relationship. SO again, Ayu having a boyfriend means absolutely nothing.

Anyways I'm not saying Ayu is gay though, just trying to prove that you can't say that she's 100% straight, because you can't.

NeoDaydream 2nd November 2005 02:07 PM

yeah, itz not lesbian. itz about her consoling her past self

orenji_jaro 3rd November 2005 05:58 AM

it does look like that in some ways.. but if u try undrstanding deepr in the lyrics you'll realize it's not... its about a person trying to cope up with problems and trying to heal the hurtful past left behind.. and making new life after the rain the rainbow.. which is the new beggining.. for the person.! ^^

Keishi 8th November 2005 09:45 AM

if she was talking about her past, shouldn't she just use a child form to represent her past?
well two "SAME" ayu couldn't represent the past and the present ayu....not if we understand the lyrics....we have to check out the translation to understand that she's talking about her past and present...well, she should know that she's hitting on international world, where not everyone can't understand the song, yet the PV is there to help us understand the lyrics...and common people usually come up with the them "lesbian"...well, who knows?

Mad_Cactuar 8th November 2005 02:29 PM

I think she IS consoling her past, why would she want to flirt with herself..

blackmage 8th November 2005 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by touchedstar
because they don't take the time to actually look deeper at it probably. they just see the cover and jump to conclusions. :grumpy

Exactly. When I first saw the pictures of 'A Ballads' I never thought of Ayu with herself being homosexual or anything like that. Just listening to the track listenings, it was obvious that the pictures are about her in a way comforting herself and like someone said above, that she's controling herself. That's my opinion on the whole thing.

Corybobory 8th November 2005 09:31 PM

How can self love be gay?


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