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ComatoseBunnySnatcher 26th June 2008 11:27 PM

I wonder if it IS walking proud...
that'd be wierd though, the name changes.

Zeke. 26th June 2008 11:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Rody
I still wished they would release the original CM "moments" version.... Moments was not supposed to be a single at first, but when they decided to release it as a single rather than 'just' a CM-Song, they changed it alot.

A lot of Ayu's songs when used in CMs are just in early stages of production and sound a lot different afterwards... that doesn't mean that all the ones that sound different (STEP you, etc.) were originally wrote specifically for the CM :rolleyes

truehappiness 26th June 2008 11:29 PM

I'm pretty sure Rody had a source he got that information from though. He's one of the biggest Ayu fans I know, so possibly... yeah. D: He knows there are songs that sound different from the CMs -> original mixes, but for some reason Moments was special... D:

It could be one of those "You had to have been there when it happened" kind of things... like the delay of I am... or the renaming of Endless sorrow / M..

ImpactBreaker 26th June 2008 11:29 PM

That reminds me of still alone...It sounds completely different in the CM (as far as I remember since it's been ages I last saw it). And I think "my name's WOMEN" was also better in the CM....

Zeke. 26th June 2008 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1520144)
I'm pretty sure Rody had a source he got that information from though. He's one of the biggest Ayu fans I know, so possibly... yeah. D: He knows there are songs that sound different from the CMs -> original mixes, but for some reason Moments was special... D:

I see but I don't think he was THE source that reported that information to begin with. I think he heard it and reported it and that's how it started. Lol, I just have to stick to my guns on this one.

ComatoseBunnySnatcher 26th June 2008 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1520144)
I'm pretty sure Rody had a source he got that information from though. He's one of the biggest Ayu fans I know, so possibly... yeah. D: He knows there are songs that sound different from the CMs -> original mixes, but for some reason Moments was special... D:

It could be one of those "You had to have been there when it happened" kind of things... like the delay of I am... or the renaming of Endless sorrow / M..

M and Endless Sorrow were renamed?

the only thing I remember was ES was called SEPIA or something...

truehappiness 26th June 2008 11:34 PM

Endless sorrow was renamed from SEPIA due to some other release having the title [I think] and M was called Bliss or something and was changed later on for some reason. D:

Zeke. 26th June 2008 11:35 PM

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Originally Posted by ImpactBreaker (Post 1520145)
That reminds me of still alone...It sounds completely different in the CM (as far as I remember since it's been ages I last saw it). And I think "my name's WOMEN" was also better in the CM....

OMG, I thought my name's WOMEN was horrid in the CM. Although I think walking proud was better in the CM. Not too much of a difference but the slight changes that were made just gave the song a different feel. I still love the tune but it doesn't give me the chills that the CM version did when I first heard it. It's just so calming.

emi♡ 26th June 2008 11:36 PM

Well, I decided to ask someone for a bit of information...just to see if she knew anything about it...and here's what she remembers:
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Originally Posted by Delirium_Zero
HIKARI's site listed a song called "Memories" instead of "Moments" when he did the arrangement for the latter.

We figured it was just a typo, since "Moments" wasn't listed at all and they're similar words.

I thought Moments wasn't listed there, and Memories was there instead of it. I don't think both were listed.

But yeah, I don't recall "Moments" and "Memories" EVER having been listed at the same time. That's really all I can tell you.

That's just me though and I could be wrong.

And I guess...she says that she believes the rumor started because the VISEE CM came out so long before the actual single, and they sounded nothing alike. But there doesn't seem to be anything about Ayu posting that she was going to make Moments into a full song in the old TA messages. Interesting.

Thanks to Delirium_Zero, who always saves my ass in Ayu debates :laugh

Zeke. 26th June 2008 11:37 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1520149)
Endless sorrow was renamed from SEPIA due to some other release having the title [I think] and M was called Bliss or something and was changed later on for some reason. D:

Wow, I didn't know that about Endless sorrow but now that I do I am so glad the title was changed - "Endless sorrow" just fits the song perfectly. But see, those things actually sound believable to me and sound a lot more creditable than this junk about Moments only for Visee.

Zeke. 26th June 2008 11:40 PM

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Originally Posted by emiko (Post 1520152)
Well, I decided to ask someone for a bit of information...just to see if she knew anything about it...and here's what she remembers:


And I guess...she says that she believes the rumor started because the VISEE CM came out so long before the actual single, and they sounded nothing alike. But there doesn't seem to be anything about Ayu posting that she was going to make Moments into a full song in the old TA messages. Interesting.

Thanks to Delirium_Zero, who always saves my ass in Ayu debates :laugh

Great! That reminds me of how About You was released fairly early and also sounded different in that Morinaga Bake CM (sounded pretty terrible to me actually). Everyone thought it was to be a new single but it didn't show up until the album release of MY STORY.

ComatoseBunnySnatcher 26th June 2008 11:42 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1520149)
Endless sorrow was renamed from SEPIA due to some other release having the title [I think] and M was called Bliss or something and was changed later on for some reason. D:

Eww those titles suck!
I like the new ones... especially M. I mean, Bliss... it has no absolute sense.

thanks for the info.

truehappiness 26th June 2008 11:42 PM

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But there doesn't seem to be anything about Ayu posting that she was going to make Moments into a full song in the old TA messages. Interesting.
When I've talked to Rody in the past, it was all like, TeamAyu BBS posts saying "MAKE IT INTO A FULL SONG OMGGGG" or something. :\

ComatoseBunnySnatcher 26th June 2008 11:44 PM

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Originally Posted by all.night.raver (Post 1520155)
Great! That reminds me of how About You was released fairly early and also sounded different in that Morinaga Bake CM (sounded pretty terrible to me actually). Everyone thought it was to be a new single but it didn't show up until the album release of MY STORY.

was this like, before any singles? I wonder what would've happened if talking to myself had had such promotion XD

But I agree with you on it sounding like crap. It sounds... too noisy.
I like the polished version on MY STORY.


btw, why is that album called MY STORY?

truehappiness 26th June 2008 11:45 PM

Probably because the entire album is sort of like "her story." That's possibly why there's no title track either, because the album title is meant to encompass the album as a whole.. or w/e. D:

As a piece of mini trivia, matt previously posted a tally of TA people voting for their favorite songs on MY STORY..

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1. Walking Proud (15,305)
2. About You (14,009)
3. HONEY (10,933)
4. my name's WOMEN (10,608)
5. Moments (9,845)
6. Replace (9,093)
7. Humming 7/4 (9,036)
8. CAROLS (8,715)
9. GAME (7,004)
10. INSPIRE (6,270)
11. HAPPY ENDING (5,846)
12. HOPE or PAIN (5,458)
13. winding road (4,973)
14. Liar (3,832)
15. Catcher In the Light (1,539)
16. WONDERLAND (1,494)
17. Kaleidoscope (615)
The three lowest placing tracks were also the only tracks not present at AT05.. interesting. @_@

Zeke. 26th June 2008 11:46 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1520157)
When I've talked to Rody in the past, it was all like, TeamAyu BBS posts saying "MAKE IT INTO A FULL SONG OMGGGG" or something. :\

But I don't think that's WHY it was released as a single. I'm sure that she was planning on it but it just took a while to release. Coincidental that people were demanding that it be released in full and then after a while it was released as a single.

Zeke. 26th June 2008 11:49 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1520161)
Probably because the entire album is sort of like "her story." That's possibly why there's no title track either, because the album title is meant to encompass the album as a whole.. or w/e. D:

Great reasoning! I think that is why there wasn't a title track. But that's a pretty bad first response to Nippon's question;

Nippon: "btw, why is that album called MY STORY?"
truehappiness: "Probably because the entire album is sort of like 'her story'"

rofl.

truehappiness 26th June 2008 11:50 PM

Well, how else would you explain it? :\

That's like asking why any of her albums are titled the way they are... it's so hard to explain some of them if she hasn't spoken about them personally @_@

ComatoseBunnySnatcher 26th June 2008 11:53 PM

She has'nt... on, I thought she had given an explanation.

truehappiness 26th June 2008 11:54 PM

She's probably explained each and every one of her album titles in some magazine interview as well as some single ones... but very rarely do we get translations. :\


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