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ayu_fantasy 23rd December 2008 04:39 PM

Do you think ayu being too harsh to her dancers in her documentaries is made-up?? Like is just for show.....?? For the sake of documentary??

Well, haha, it might be true, but not that extreme in a sense....

Cus she doesn't treat her dancers that badly during off-shots, and her TA messages seem more like friends with her dancers rather than Boss and employee relationship...

hpg23 23rd December 2008 05:51 PM

^Well, obviously she is not going to write on her TA messages: "Oh, and today that ******* of Shuya made me ******* angry because he was moving like a ******* dr*** a**s." She is not stupid, you know xD

And with the dancers thing, she is her boss and has all the right to scold them. I´m sure that anytime she does something wrong, her staff scold her too. Anyway, she has always been very nice with everyone, much more than a lot of artists, and even BoA said that she was very nice with her when she was no one. So, I think she isn´t a bad person. But actually, if she were, I wouldn´t care much as long as she keeps releasing good music. Get over it, Ayu may be your fav. singer, but she´s not your girlfriend/best friend to think of the good and bad things she may have done. She is human after all.

xLitax 23rd December 2008 06:17 PM

^ :roflmao

I don't believe things people feel like typing up in their spare time. I could type right now I met Ayu and she was the biggest b---- I had ever met. But, I haven't met her, and probably never will.

So, believe what you want. Believing something doesn't make it true... like Santa. :D

waterballoon 23rd December 2008 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by SURREAL__RAINBOW (Post 1754455)
I heard that ayu fired all her team of her TV program AyuReady bcose after recording the show she said that she looked ugly on camera.

LOL if this were true, she should/would have fired that photographer who tried dabbling in filming too! That argh guy who filmed the PV for Mirrorcle World and GREEN!

kenniFlyHigh 23rd December 2008 07:56 PM

i think she is a good person that likes to get whatever she started done..
it's kinda like if you wanted something to turn out great so much, that if something looks obscure, you have to fix it...

jimex289 23rd December 2008 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by asmAyumi1992 (Post 1754217)
I think I know what video you're watched. I think the one that Ayu pointing her finger to some audience who didn't stand up as all other audience stand. They are mean. They should stand while others did. They are sitting at the front but so mean.I think that the video you watched. Am I right?

Lolol I've always wondered about this. Which video/concert/live did this actually occur in? Was it a CDL?

As for these rumors...they look pretty weak to me. I don't think she would do/say any of those things. And those rumors about Ami, if they were true they'd have to be from a very long time ago because Ami is a shell of her former self success-wise if you compare her now to back in the late 90's to 2000. Even back in the day Ayu was already seeing enough success with her singles to compete with Ami...I don't see a need to "bring her down". As for all these scandals...where's the evidence =|? Anyone capable of reason is able to fabricate stuff like this.

I got a good one: Ayu doesn't exist. It's all an illusion!

noidea 23rd December 2008 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jimex289 (Post 1754882)
I got a good one: Ayu doesn't exist. It's all an illusion!

a SINGING MACHINE- almost human!

jimex289 23rd December 2008 09:38 PM

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Originally Posted by hpg23 (Post 1754740)
^Well, obviously she is not going to write on her TA messages: "Oh, and today that ******* of Shuya made me ******* angry because he was moving like a ******* dr*** a**s." She is not stupid, you know xD

And with the dancers thing, she is her boss and has all the right to scold them. I´m sure that anytime she does something wrong, her staff scold her too. Anyway, she has always been very nice with everyone, much more than a lot of artists, and even BoA said that she was very nice with her when she was no one. So, I think she isn´t a bad person. But actually, if she were, I wouldn´t care much as long as she keeps releasing good music. Get over it, Ayu may be your fav. singer, but she´s not your girlfriend/best friend to think of the good and bad things she may have done. She is human after all.

Yep. She's the boss of those dancers but I bet Kobayashi Shingo is pretty harsh on her when it comes to band/singing rehearsals lol. It makes sense that since she's in control of most if not all aspects of her career, she knows what she wants best, and if she doesn't get it she'll say something. She's not afraid to say what's on her mind; that's just the type of person she is and she's even said so herself. I think I respect that side of her the most. I'm sure the dancers do too even if they are on the side that's receiving a lot of heat haha.

AyUta 24th December 2008 08:34 AM

Nah, those are just rumors, I don't think they're true at all.

AyUmIXx 24th December 2008 04:35 PM

i don't know Ayu personally..so i don't know what kind of person Ayu is..
but from all the making off vids, documentaries...on her DVDs..
i can feel that Ayu's a kind-hearted person..
look at the way of her greeting ppl...she really respects other ppl...

jimex289 24th December 2008 06:08 PM

Overall I think it's obvious what kind of person she is. She has all the traits that a good person exhibits. One look at some of her song lyrics (Who..., Present, TO BE come to mind) tell you just the kind of person she is. I find it very hard to believe she could be a bad person and have the traits of modesty and gratefulness.

asmAyumi1992 24th December 2008 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by pommy408 (Post 1754218)
i think he's either talking about AT07 or CDL 07-08
and that video you're talking about was completely fabricated, it wasn't a handicapped girl

oops! Sorry.. I'm misunderstood that.. I'll watch the Documentary again some hours later.

maikaru 24th December 2008 08:16 PM

She scolded the new members in CDL 07 - 08, because they were not performing with their full energy..
She said they could not go on stage if their energies were different or something similar.

She also cut out Midoring and the other girl ribbon dancey thing, so they showed that in asia tour 2007.

But I think a lot of people dont like her because they are always looking for something wrong.
Some people are really jealous about ayumi, or they think "why is she singing this songs still? she is 30?"
But I think even those people who say those things, they dont really hate her.
Just trying to find something wrong all the time.
There is still something proud about Hamasaki to the Japanese people, I feel.
But most Japanese people dont even know about the rumours, because they dont care.
"Oh.. another rumour about Ayu??? oh well." in that way.

And before in this thread I read about avex, and firing Max.
It's true, she threatened to leave, because Max was her mentor.
But I think after that, and after 2004 Super interview... her popularity began to drop.
People saw a new side that they did not see, a very powerful side.
It is almost overwhelming.

jimex289 24th December 2008 08:26 PM

I guess people are just tiring of the rumors, maikaru. Very well put though. I don't know if Max was being fired but the story goes that he and someone else (Tom Yoda I think?) got into a dispute. Ayu and many other big names said they would leave in the event that Max moved. So yeah, she wields a whole lot of power if she made this Tom Yoda resign because avex stocks plummeted as a result of the feud. That's how it should be I think though. She can be an adult and not the sweet cute pop idol everyone sees her as when necessary.

Admittedly, I use to be one of those people trying to find things wrong with her because everyone talked about her and it kind of got on my nerves. Over time, I saw her for who she really was and now I'm one of her biggest fans. Further more, I was never able to find a single piece of dirt on her =).

Melrose 24th December 2008 08:43 PM

I thought it was *****y when Ayu told the two female dancers that their ribbon performance would be canceled from AT07 Secret outro. But instead, they got to do their ribbon performance DURING a song at AT08, which is 500 times more important! As everyone will watch the song, and then see the ribbon performance! But a lot of people will skip outro's. So I was happy with that! :)

hpg23 24th December 2008 09:36 PM

^That is a sign that she´s not that bad. She canceled the ribbon dance, and, in "compesation" when they got it right she decided to use it and this time she gave it a better spot inside the show. That´s quite cool of her, y´know.

taskinillusion 24th December 2008 09:44 PM

Hahaha wow, yeah... right... RUMORS guys! Take them with a grain of salt! Not everything you read/hear is the truth. :)

perfectodub 24th December 2008 09:59 PM

LOL thoses are really great rumors LOL!
.honestly i preffer ayu as a super b**h than a stupid pinky silly girl
she is the queen not for been a angel of God...she is the queen for been the BEST
i remember all the rude things that madonna did in her past..and she is not a bad person..she is just a person

do it again 24th December 2008 10:05 PM

lol these rumors are ridiculous. i'm sure she's not an angel all the time, especially if she has something really important to do like put a tour or concert together, but that's norma. she wants to do the best she can for her fans and has every right to scold someone when they're not up to par.

but i totally believe she thought ami would try to steal her career with negaigoto because ami was selling so much!!!

erika_ayu 26th December 2008 05:46 AM

hmmm all these does sounds like plain old RUMOURS!!
WE LOVE AYU and that rules it all!! :D


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