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AyumiBest 11th June 2009 01:11 PM

This is absolutely ridiculous!!!

~ayu-cake~ 11th June 2009 01:18 PM

Sorry but what on earth?
Took the notebook?
o.o

Kazeyomi 11th June 2009 01:18 PM

wat..?

I don't get it o_o'

ihulk2 11th June 2009 02:59 PM

The Truth is out there ....
 
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Originally Posted by jimex289 (Post 1976340)
Nice theories man haha.

Ok I'll bite. Maybe, just maybe the evil genius behind all this is just pissed off that so many fans showed up to see and support Ayu instead of his/her idol.
This green-eyed idiot then decided to lodge a complaint and the police have no choice but to appear impartial even though they know its an ass of a complaint and Ayu had nothing to do with this.

How's that for a conspiracy theory ?

ihulk2 11th June 2009 03:06 PM

Twenty Qs
 
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Originally Posted by Hazard (Post 1976358)
Why raid Avex's HQ? It's already been established that they didn't have a permit, right? What are they trying to find out, exactly? I hope Ayu is affected adversely by this. -.-

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Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 1976668)
What the hell are they looking for?

Trying to find out ? Looking for ?

Could it be someone's after Ayu's cellphone number ? Maybe they needed the number of a really good dentist.

Or were they after Shu-ya's shoe size ?

Good questions.

ihulk2 11th June 2009 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by BluishDays (Post 1976618)
Omg this is truly ridiculous now. There trying to make an example and truth be told, there are more important things that the police could be doing than this.

Like attending AT09 ?

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Originally Posted by Max_ZZZ (Post 1976660)
lol this is what you called JAPAN POLICE BEING BORED!

Like I say, there's no such thing as too much support, send them to AT09 and I'm pretty sure Ayu will chase their blues away.

ihulk2 11th June 2009 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Gus-tave (Post 1976677)
Police are pigs.

Now, now, there's no call for us to go around insulting pigs.

One cough and a sneeze from a pig will make us run for the nearest H1N1 vaccine.

jiarongisme 11th June 2009 03:35 PM

I don't see the point of searching anyway. Kinda dumb.

Jeremy911 11th June 2009 04:30 PM

This being blown WAY out of proportion... Is the crime rate really that low in Tokyo that the police have nothing better to do? This reminds me of the Police forces in small towns in the USA.

ren'ai 11th June 2009 09:17 PM

woah... what a waste of time ==; they should get over this...quickly..

f1rz3n_0028 11th June 2009 11:36 PM

DUDE, this is such a waste of money and police force, why don't they focus on something else more important, what's happened has happened they can't change that, have they got too much money?? Man, they do have some weird ass thoughts in Japan sometimes... =.= but I came to a conclusion:
Spoiler:
WTF


thx for the news anyways

douggn 12th June 2009 01:16 AM

If its a traffic offence why did they search her house/apartment thing? You dont go searching someones house for something like that, I get the managers notebook thing because that would have her plans in it for that day but to search her entire house??? Maybe the one incharge of the case doesn't like ayu :(

taskinillusion 12th June 2009 01:17 AM

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Originally Posted by nmskalmn (Post 1976323)
Seems like a ridiculous waste of police resources.

Maybe this 'police raid' is some kind of avex publicity stunt? :planning

Or maybe the police are looking for evidence of juicier crimes and are just using the traffic violation as an excuse to raid the place. :devious

You know, I wouldn't be surprised...

SunshineSlayer 12th June 2009 06:52 AM

As I mentioned in the other thread, it really seems to me like they were after dirt on avex for something totally different and used this as their "in." Even by Japan's standards, this doesn't make any sense otherwise so long after the fact of such a minor thing. I don't think its THAT far fetched of an idea. Avex for years has been rumored for unfair (or maybe even illegal) business practices and connections with drugs. (Japan takes drugs ultra seriously. You get caught with cocaine and you might as well have killed someone. Heck, get caught with pot and you might as well have killed someone.) It certainly doesn't help that Avex recently gave Komuro (a known drug user) a management position. I think the police for years have been wanting to "out" both Avex and Johnny's. With Tsuyoshi's arrest they even used it as an excuse to raid his apartment even though he had passed a drug screening test. (they found nothing in his apartment either.)

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Originally Posted by Aisha_Angel (Post 1976304)

If they do anything to Ayu/her manager I SWEAR Japanese law is corrupted. It was literally last month when they let that drunk-naked dude from SMAP get away with his crime. IMO, what he did was even worse because he was so drunk he had to be subdued physically by the police. On top of that, who knows who he may have traumatized in that state. Just looking at him with clothes ON freaks me out. >_<

I think you are overreacting a bit here. I know its natural when something as ridiculous as this happens, but he certainly didn't "get away with it." And from a strictly law enforcement perspective, Avex's "crime" is worse because they potentially could have endangered many people (however unlikely). Tsuyoshi was just alone and drunk outside naked at 3am - if he had been operating a vehicle I'd agree with you. And really, who hasn't seen a salaryman get drunk and start to strip if you've lived in Japan long enough? :) Both are just total over reactions by the media and perhaps the police as well.

So far with this news, I haven't seen it mentioned in Japanese sources to an OMG level yet - it may blow over.

C+R+E+AYUMI 12th June 2009 01:16 PM

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Originally Posted by GRACE (Post 1976163)
Jesus Japan, priorities please ._.... is it really worth the time and money to go through with this o_O?

it is already happened and resolved..it seems that police investigators have many time and much money to spend in these such silly things, no?

extepan 13th June 2009 08:28 AM

they are making too big a deal of of it

glowlydays 13th June 2009 08:35 AM

that's ridiculous... and what's next...? they're gonna put her in jail? is this really worth the money? oh, I suppose it is... they're gonna suck a really big amount from this incident...

SolarAngel 13th June 2009 02:37 PM

I think the investigations are causing more problems for the public than the event itself :P

maikaru 13th June 2009 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 1977919)
I think you are overreacting a bit here. I know its natural when something as ridiculous as this happens, but he certainly didn't "get away with it." And from a strictly law enforcement perspective, Avex's "crime" is worse because they potentially could have endangered many people (however unlikely). Tsuyoshi was just alone and drunk outside naked at 3am - if he had been operating a vehicle I'd agree with you. And really, who hasn't seen a salaryman get drunk and start to strip if you've lived in Japan long enough? :) Both are just total over reactions by the media and perhaps the police as well.

So far with this news, I haven't seen it mentioned in Japanese sources to an OMG level yet - it may blow over.

I thought Komuro was put into jail? for tax problems???
And I never heard about this drug business with Avex...

Anyways, to me, Tsuyoshi's crime was 100% worse, since he has a duty to the public to be Kusanagi Tsuyoshi 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, and it was a disgrace not only to him, but to his company, and to Japan. He knew he had a duty and responsibility, and he did not follow through with it, and was very disruptive to the community around the park. I would not want my daughter or son to see someone they look up to in the park doing those stupid things, and become discouraged. Avex hosted an event, and Shibuya 109 and the Avex Management failed to estimate just how many people would be there. Big crime....

In Japan, there is no "strictly law enforcement" persepective, sorry to say about that.
It is always powered through other motives..
In this instance, it feels like "look, even if she is so powerful, we are more powerful."
Everyone I am talking to says that they are making fools of themselves, the police.

And yes, Tsuyoshi DID get away with it. He has new dramas and back on his programs already, and feels like no penalty was issued, and no drawback from the public. However, look at Koda Kumi, who was not even allowed to have the activity for three months for just SAYING something.

Yeah, I completely disagree with the statements.. but it doesn't matter about it now.. haha.

All that matters is that this goes away quickly.. haha
I think that's what we all want.

SunshineSlayer 13th June 2009 05:50 PM

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Originally Posted by maikaru (Post 1979725)
And yes, Tsuyoshi DID get away with it. He has new dramas and back on his programs already, and feels like no penalty was issued, and no drawback from the public.

This is the only statement I disagree with really. I don't see how he got away with it at all. The normal punishment for this type of thing is often times nothing - at worst, a night in the drunk tank. Tsuyoshi on the other hand was arrested, night in the drunk tank, press conference and public apology, massive public humiliation, loss of millions of dollars, apartment raided, suspension from all work for a month and is still on a semi-suspension. I don't see any of that as "getting away with it" - his punishment was worse than what the average person would get. The only reason why it was relatively "short" is because the public actually realized this time how much the situation was being blown out of proportion by the media and demanded his return.

Koda Kumi's situation was a major overreaction as well, no doubt about it. But that more has to do with a different mentality that Japanese have when it comes to that type of thing. I have a friend that is a 50 year old housewife in Japan, and even she told me she didn't think Koda should be forgiven, I was like "WHAT?" haha. But the two situations are totally different (as is this one with Avex and Ayu) - my main point is just that all of them are overreactions and no one has gotten away punishment free.

Oh, and the Komuro thing. There was an article a little while back that Avex's lawyer bailed him out and he was given a management position within Avex. And his drug issues have been quite well publicized in Japan since the late-90s.


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