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Pieces_of_SEVEN 15th March 2011 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 2652144)
:yes:yes Agreed, but for the nonstop would you consider it just one genre or a mix of all of them?

it's definitely a mix of a few different ones.

and lmao at people having the nerve to tell others to get a life while they post meaningless three-word sentences all throughout the forum. must suck to have no social life.

jbrat2219 15th March 2011 05:27 AM

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Originally Posted by RyRyMini (Post 2652142)
Not sure what definition you were reading, dear.

I did kind of repeat what you said, only because I don't think you get the point. It's not just called ayu-mi-x 7 because it's not ayu-mi-x 7. It's specifically the house genre, not a melange. Listen to a house nation album and then listen to an ayu-mi-x. They're not the same.

Awww... I was kind of hoping for stuff similar to her other remix albums but if it's specifically HOUSE, I'll have to check out what that genre is to see if I like it because I'm not familiar with it.

RyRyMini 15th March 2011 05:29 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 2652147)
Awww... I was kind of hoping for stuff similar to her other remix albums but if it's specifically HOUSE, I'll have to check out what that genre is to see if I like it because I'm not familiar with it.

It'll be like some of them, like it was said. :yes

glitter x SOUL CENTRAL is a good example of basic house music, I think.

Pieces_of_SEVEN 15th March 2011 05:29 AM

^^honestly, a lot of the other ayu-mi-x selections ARE house. not all of them, but a lot of tracks, especially on ayu-mi-x II through IV, are house.

TeamAyu2004 15th March 2011 05:30 AM

I had this under an edit, but a new page poped up:
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Originally Posted by RyRyMini (Post 2652142)
It's not just called ayu-mi-x 7 because it's not ayu-mi-x 7. It's specifically the house genre, not a melange. Listen to a house nation album and then listen to an ayu-mi-x. They're not the same.

I think i tend to agree, this isn't a regular ayu-mi-x. Which is cool, its like she is reinventing it the albums.
Which by the way, do you have an example of a good house cd which would be something to judge it by?

Zeke. 15th March 2011 05:34 AM

The only way you really can learn how to distinguish the genres of Electronic Dance Music is from listening experience. It is very hard to put into words but:

Trance is usually more synth-based, usually a slight ambient feeling. Euphoric.

House is becoming more and more broad so it's hard to say what house is and what house was. But for the most part, you can tell when something is true house (because it sucks). It used to have a more "funky" feel with similarities to disco (as mentioned below was the SOUL CENTRAL remix of glitter). But electro-house is more popular now and a good example would be some of the garbage the Black Eyed Peas puts out and David Guetta. Lol, well imo I just don't like the majority of house music.

Eurobeat is kinda hyper, pretty much always used the same kind of synth. It's very "Dance Dance Revolution".

jbrat2219 15th March 2011 05:35 AM

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Originally Posted by RyRyMini (Post 2652148)
It'll be like some of them, like it was said. :yes

glitter x SOUL CENTRAL is a good example of basic house music, I think.

I actually like that remix! :)

TeamAyu2004 15th March 2011 05:37 AM

^ i wish i could say the same.. Its kinda dull for me.. i hope the entire album isnt like that... :thud

jbrat2219 15th March 2011 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 2652156)
^ i wish i could say the same.. Its kinda dull for me.. i hope the entire album isnt like that... :thud

It's dull in comparison to the rest of the remixes, but better than the original to me... xD;

gogirlanime 15th March 2011 05:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN (Post 2652106)
FYI, it's not really an opinion when it comes off all "matter of fact". Especially when it's from someone who really doesn't know anything about the situation at all. It's a little ignorant.

I feel like unless you were actively on the forum in the days when ayu trance 4 was initially announced, you don't really get it. :/

PS off topic but your font is overbearing, annoying, and unnecessary. since you seem to be all about opinions. :)

I'm done with this thread, arguing here is pointless. Even if I am wrong, I am still entitled to an opinion even if it's wrong. This argument is just like a religion argument "Jesus", "NO Buddha" it's a belief that we either did or didn't suggest the idea to them and they did it for us or not. I'M ALSO NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO THINKS THIS! Did Max Matsuura or Ayu ever say "thank you guys we did this because you Twittered us" NO. Something is only a fact when there is ABSOLUTE PROOF and there isn't. All we know is that a lot of fans Twittered Max and Ayu and I WAS THERE FOR THE WHOLE THING. I remember when it was announced that ONLY an Ayu Trance was being considered a couple months ago and then I went off and Twittered Ayu and Max and asked them "wow is this true". Then soon afterward they made a remix album, YOU DON'T KNOW IF THEY WERE ALREADY BEGINNING TO PLAN ONE. We just pushed the idea HARDER but perhaps not the WHOLE IDEA. There is no ABSOLUTE PROOF.

Please don't call me ignorant, learning in psychology if you want to prove a point you insult a person as a whole last when you don't have anything else to use to back up your statement. Calling me ignorant is an insult on me as a whole person and it's not true, I'm a very well-educated woman. I'm not ignorant if I know all the FACTS which are...

-Several of us Twittered Ayu and Max asking for new remix albums (which I did EVEN BEFORE THE FIRST ANNOUNCEMENT)
-It was announced on here that Max and Ayu began discussing it an said something like "we haven't done that style [Ayu Trance] in a while let's do it"
-It was then announced that an Ayu Trance would be released
-We later found out that many Japanese fans were requesting an Ayu-ro album
-The box set release was announced.

Considering that the last remix albums she released were only Ayu-mi-x albums and no Ayu trance or Ayu-ro they were probably planning on releasing another Ayu-mi-x album(s). Trance and Euro beat are really old styles in Japan and Avex artists don't really have many (I'm not saying none) Trance or Euro beat remixes anymore. So I know we suggested some of the albums. I'm just not saying ALL

I'm done with this thread now, NO I'm not running away from my problems, I just have better stuff to do with my time.

No problem, I won't use a bold font anymore considering you are the second to not like it hahah

RyRyMini 15th March 2011 05:39 AM

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Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 2652150)
I had this under an edit, but a new page poped up:
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I think i tend to agree, this isn't a regular ayu-mi-x. Which is cool, its like she is reinventing it the albums.
Which by the way, do you have an example of a good house cd which would be something to judge it by?

I agree - even though she has had done this genre in spurts here and there, this is the first album that is all house and I think that's pretty neat. But I'm biased because it's one of my favorite genres.

And sure! Both of Kuu's DRIVING HITS have been pure house with a few electro house songs thrown in. They all have pretty much the same bpm and are easily danceable.

deadmau5's "For Lack of A Better Name" is progressive house, which means that it sticks to the house 4/4 beat (generally 128 bpm) but also combines some trance elements into it. His "Random Album Title" is the same, but much more trancier than the former.

Felix Cartal recently released the album "Popular Music" which is electro house. So still the 4/4 beat for the most part plus more synths.

Pieces_of_SEVEN 15th March 2011 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by gogirlanime (Post 2652158)
I'm done with this thread, arguing here is pointless. Even if I am wrong, I am still entitled to an opinion even if it's wrong. This argument is just like a religion argument "Jesus", "NO Buddha" it's a belief that we either did or didn't suggest the idea to them and they did it for us or not. I'M ALSO NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO THINKS THIS! Did Max Matsuura or Ayu ever say "thank you guys we did this because you Twittered us" NO. Something is only a fact when there is ABSOLUTE PROOF and there isn't. All we know is that a lot of fans Twittered Max and Ayu and I WAS THERE FOR THE WHOLE THING. I remember when it was announced that ONLY an Ayu Trance was being considered a couple months ago and then I went off and Twittered Ayu and Max and asked them "wow is this true". Then soon afterward they made a remix album, YOU DON'T KNOW IF THEY WERE ALREADY BEGINNING TO PLAN ONE. We just pushed the idea HARDER but perhaps not the WHOLE IDEA. There is no ABSOLUTE PROOF.

Please don't call me ignorant, learning in psychology if you want to prove a point you insult a person as a whole last when you don't have anything else to use to back up your statement. Calling me ignorant is an insult on me as a whole person and it's not true, I'm a very well-educated woman. I'm not ignorant if I know all the FACTS which are...

-Several of us Twittered Ayu and Max asking for new remix albums (which I did EVEN BEFORE THE FIRST ANNOUNCEMENT)
-It was announced on here that Max and Ayu began discussing it an said something like "we haven't done that style [Ayu Trance] in a while let's do it"
-It was then announced that an Ayu Trance would be released
-We later found out that many Japanese fans were requesting an Ayu-ro album
-The box set release was announced.

Considering that the last remix albums she released were only Ayu-mi-x albums and no Ayu trance or Ayu-ro they were probably planning on releasing another Ayu-mi-x album(s). Trance and Euro beat are really old styles in Japan and Avex artists don't really have many (I'm not saying none) Trance or Euro beat remixes anymore. So I know we suggested some of the albums. I'm just not saying ALL

I'm done with this thread now, NO I'm not running away from my problems, I just have better stuff to do with my time.

No problem, I won't use a bold font anymore considering you are the second to not like it hahah

hm...I know I quoted you, but a lot of my statements were intended for others, and not you. Thought that was understood from the way I wrote it, but I guess not. :shrug

RyRyMini 15th March 2011 05:41 AM

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Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 2652156)
^ i wish i could say the same.. Its kinda dull for me.. i hope the entire album isnt like that... :thud

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Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 2652157)
It's dull in comparison to the rest of the remixes, but better than the original to me... xD;

I agree that it's kind of dull, but considering the remixers we have on board for the house album, I'm sure they'll make it interesting. Shinichi's and Razor n Guido's will definitely have electro elements mixed in with the house.

TeamAyu2004 15th March 2011 05:44 AM

Cool thanks for all the examples.. I have the kuu albums and have been planning on listening to them so now I know what kind of music it will be!

As for the post above you... Wow... just wow...

RyRyMini 15th March 2011 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by all.night.raver (Post 2652152)
The only way you really can learn how to distinguish the genres of Electronic Dance Music is from listening experience. It is very hard to put into words but:

Trance is usually more synth-based, usually a slight ambient feeling. Euphoric.

House is becoming more and more broad so it's hard to say what house is and what house was. But for the most part, you can tell when something is true house (because it sucks). It used to have a more "funky" feel with similarities to disco (as mentioned below was the SOUL CENTRAL remix of glitter). But electro-house is more popular now and a good example would be some of the garbage the Black Eyed Peas puts out and David Guetta. Lol, well imo I just don't like the majority of house music.

You're right about listening experience. And ack @ Black Eyed Peas and David Guetta. I'm not big fans of them. D:

To all trance lovers, I recommend listening to this before you shut out house music entirely. :yes

jbrat2219 15th March 2011 05:45 AM

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Originally Posted by gogirlanime (Post 2652158)
I'm done with this thread, arguing here is pointless. Even if I am wrong, I am still entitled to an opinion even if it's wrong. This argument is just like a religion argument "Jesus", "NO Buddha" it's a belief that we either did or didn't suggest the idea to them and they did it for us or not. I'M ALSO NOT THE ONLY ONE WHO THINKS THIS! Did Max Matsuura or Ayu ever say "thank you guys we did this because you Twittered us" NO. Something is only a fact when there is ABSOLUTE PROOF and there isn't. All we know is that a lot of fans Twittered Max and Ayu and I WAS THERE FOR THE WHOLE THING. I remember when it was announced that ONLY an Ayu Trance was being considered a couple months ago and then I went off and Twittered Ayu and Max and asked them "wow is this true". Then soon afterward they made a remix album, YOU DON'T KNOW IF THEY WERE ALREADY BEGINNING TO PLAN ONE. We just pushed the idea HARDER but perhaps not the WHOLE IDEA. There is no ABSOLUTE PROOF.

Please don't call me ignorant, learning in psychology if you want to prove a point you insult a person as a whole last when you don't have anything else to use to back up your statement. Calling me ignorant is an insult on me as a whole person and it's not true, I'm a very well-educated woman. I'm not ignorant if I know all the FACTS which are...

-Several of us Twittered Ayu and Max asking for new remix albums (which I did EVEN BEFORE THE FIRST ANNOUNCEMENT)
-It was announced on here that Max and Ayu began discussing it an said something like "we haven't done that style [Ayu Trance] in a while let's do it"
-It was then announced that an Ayu Trance would be released
-We later found out that many Japanese fans were requesting an Ayu-ro album
-The box set release was announced.

Considering that the last remix albums she released were only Ayu-mi-x albums and no Ayu trance or Ayu-ro they were probably planning on releasing another Ayu-mi-x album(s). Trance and Euro beat are really old styles in Japan and Avex artists don't really have many (I'm not saying none) Trance or Euro beat remixes anymore. So I know we suggested some of the albums. I'm just not saying ALL

I'm done with this thread now, NO I'm not running away from my problems, I just have better stuff to do with my time.

No problem, I won't use a bold font anymore considering you are the second to not like it hahah

Look who needs to calm down. :rolleyes


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Originally Posted by RyRyMini (Post 2652165)
You're right about listening experience. And ack @ Black Eyed Peas and David Guetta. I'm not big fans of them. D:

To all trance lovers, I recommend listening to this before you shut out house music entirely. :yes

This sounds better than the crap I ran into on youtube. xD; I was getting worried when I heard some of the HOUSE NATION stuff.

Zeke. 15th March 2011 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by RyRyMini (Post 2652165)
You're right about listening experience. And ack @ Black Eyed Peas and David Guetta. I'm not big fans of them. D:

To all trance lovers, I recommend listening to this before you shut out house music entirely. :yes

Much better than most house but again, I feel like it doesn't fully take off. It's just kind of background music. Has a nice feel but not something that I'd get stuck in my head or spend my time listening to. Thanks for this though. Sounds like good progression to a chill/what could be a warmer trance song but that's all it is, is progression and never arrives at the destination.

I have tried to get into house time and time again but there's like .01% of house that I actually like and it's usually because it's not full house it has stronger elements to it.

TeamAyu2004 15th March 2011 05:49 AM

Well, everyone does have an opinion, we jsut need to all remember that sometimes... I think we all have tryed to shove are opinions down peoples throats every now and then, even me :shrug

RyRyMini 15th March 2011 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by all.night.raver (Post 2652168)
Much better than most house but again, I feel like it doesn't fully take off. It's just kind of background music. Has a nice feel but not something that I'd get stuck in my head or spend my time listening to. Thanks for this though.

I have tried to get into house time and time again but there's like .01% of house that I actually like and it's usually because it's not full house it has stronger elements to it.

Ah, well it's actually a cut of the full 8 minute version. I didn't want to link that though because 8 minutes is kind of intimidating to some.

But I respect your opinion and glad you at least tried it.

TeamAyu2004 15th March 2011 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by RyRyMini (Post 2652172)
Ah, well it's actually a cut of the 8 minute version. I didn't want to link that though because 8 minutes is kind of intimidating to some.

But I respect your opinion and glad you at least tried it.

I do like that, if the ayu-mi-x house sounds like that, BUT with words, then this would be fantastic

jbrat2219 15th March 2011 05:52 AM

I'm open to the outcome of the HOUSE album, I won't rule it out yet. I'm sure if he's Ayu, it's going to be good (at least I enjoy the majority of all her remix albums).

RyRyMini 15th March 2011 05:54 AM

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Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 2652173)
I do like that, if the ayu-mi-x house sounds like that, BUT with words, then this would be fantastic

I hope there are at least a couple songs in this style of house on it. I don't know many of these remixers though to be honest. :o

Zeke. 15th March 2011 05:56 AM

People should just go to google and type in some of the remixers names. Or even type them into google to get a feel for some of them. I was doing that last night with some of the euro stuff.

TeamAyu2004 15th March 2011 05:57 AM

^ there was a thread somewhere that someone had found songs from the remixers.. wish i could find it.

I think Ayu-mi-x 4 is the best example of how i like my remixes.. theres like 2 slow tracks for the "cool down" and then two or three tracks with no words.. Ayu trance 2 does it too.

jbrat2219 15th March 2011 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by RyRyMini (Post 2652176)
I hope there are at least a couple songs in this style of house on it. I don't know many of these remixers though to be honest. :o

Yeah I'm not too familiar with some of them either. I know Hex Hector and Shinichi Osawa (I LOVE THE STARTIN' REMIX I DON'T CARE WHAT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOBODY SAYS!) and Jonathan Peters.

douggn 15th March 2011 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by toniayu (Post 2651795)
i bought it in yesasia but they didn't send me any mail :(

It wasn't a new email saying the dates change just a recite I got after my payment cleared and it doesn't say the dates changed but the expected ship out date is the 4th of April :)

TeamAyu2004 15th March 2011 06:02 AM

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Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 2652187)
Yeah I'm not too familiar with some of them either. I know Hex Hector and Shinichi Osawa (I LOVE THE STARTIN' REMIX I DON'T CARE WHAT NOOOOOOOOOOOOOBODY SAYS!) and Jonathan Peters.

Yeah the older Hex Hector and Jonathan Peters were really good, i hope they havent changed much over the past, what 10 years?? I think those were the last remixes they did with ayumi?

perfectodub 15th March 2011 06:10 AM

this is just my opinion..
i'm a lover of the house music since the 90s and i love the evolution of the genre
specially the "diva house"
but seriously, the japanese djs into house style really sucks!
the only interesting house remixes of ayu are made it by north american and some european (just a few) djs.

the rest of the house remixes taked from cd singles sound really amateurish, tasteless and second class

the "other side of ayu" and "excerpts from ayu" collections are the best example of great House music from the past years.
hex hector, junior vasquez, thunderpuss, rauhofer all of them was eminences of house

btw: the "driving hits remixes" of koda...sucks big time!...the cheapest house music ever

jbrat2219 15th March 2011 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by perfectodub (Post 2652190)
btw: the "driving hits remixes" of koda...sucks big time!...the cheapest house music ever

Is that really necessary...?

(EDIT)

Believe it or not, I'm just now hearing ayu trance 2 for the first time and it's a giant compilation of ayu trance and ayu trance 3?! And some trance from singles? What?

{EDIT}

I always wondered why I never really listened to ayu trance 2 specifically and now I remember why.... I've heard most of these remixes on other albums/singles xD;

Zeke. 15th March 2011 06:30 AM

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Originally Posted by perfectodub (Post 2652190)
this is just my opinion..
i'm a lover of the house music since the 90s and i love the evolution of the genre
specially the "diva house"
but seriously, the japanese djs into house style really sucks!
the only interesting house remixes of ayu are made it by north american and some european (just a few) djs.

the rest of the house remixes taked from cd singles sound really amateurish, tasteless and second class

the "other side of ayu" and "excerpts from ayu" collections are the best example of great House music from the past years.
hex hector, junior vasquez, thunderpuss, rauhofer all of them was eminences of house

btw: the "driving hits remixes" of koda...sucks big time!...the cheapest house music ever

The majority yes but the new one sounds AMAZING!

Yuukiru Imai 15th March 2011 07:35 AM

I want to buy this!!!!! ♥ ♥ XDD
I have to to save my money for this =="

douggn 15th March 2011 07:47 AM

I agree with the koda driving hits being crap, it had a few ok tunes but nothing like this is really good but ayus had more experience with remix`s and is the most remixed artist in the world (or well last I read a few years ago) so the house ver should be decent

Kanzaki 15th March 2011 09:10 AM

Groove Coverage did Poison, right? It had that 90's techno feel to it.
My bf is gonna love these albums, especially the trance one.

NintendoHTF1242 15th March 2011 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by perfectodub (Post 2652190)
btw: the "driving hits remixes" of koda...sucks big time!...the cheapest house music ever

You and I obviously would not get along. I love the Driving Hit's series.

And you bringing it up and bashing on it was unnecessary.

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Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 2652192)
Believe it or not, I'm just now hearing ayu trance 2 for the first time and it's a giant compilation of ayu trance and ayu trance 3?! And some trance from singles? What?

Well seeing as how ayu trance 3 came out after, it was just the full versions of the ones from 2. I prefer 2 though, because I love non-stop mega-mixes of remixes.

miki_beland 15th March 2011 01:45 PM

oh no it's postponed =( =(

Pieces_of_SEVEN 15th March 2011 02:53 PM

I hope Japan recovers soon :(

jbrat2219 15th March 2011 03:05 PM

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Originally Posted by NintendoHTF1242 (Post 2652361)
Well seeing as how ayu trance 3 came out after, it was just the full versions of the ones from 2. I prefer 2 though, because I love non-stop mega-mixes of remixes.

Yeah I was skimming around the tracks at first but then I realized it was non-stop which makes it really cool! <3

TeamAyu2004 15th March 2011 03:24 PM

^ lol, yeah I love the nonstop... i dont like Ayu Trance 3 as much because a portion of the songs are the same from the previous Ayu Trance. But when some mentioned that they are "full tracks" I think its a little more understandable.. lol

jbrat2219 15th March 2011 03:38 PM

I'm not even sure which is my favorite ayu trance is... I mean, now that I know 2 had the best of both worlds it would be the logical choice but... I mean 3 has some AMAZING mixes and 1 has major nostalgia for me... I don't know... xD; Hopefully 4 will become my favorite and settle this debate hahahah.

TeamAyu2004 15th March 2011 03:41 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 2652463)
I'm not even sure which is my favorite ayu trance is... I mean, now that I know 2 had the best of both worlds it would be the logical choice but... I mean 3 has some AMAZING mixes and 1 has major nostalgia for me... I don't know... xD; Hopefully 4 will become my favorite and settle this debate hahahah.

:yes Yeah I enjoyed 3, but not as much as 2, so im hoping 4 will be just as good. I hope its non stop!

Picaflor 7/4 15th March 2011 07:49 PM

i hope it isn't non-stop. cause then it'll have kickass remixes that will probably only be about 1:30 long. with nonstop, every song varies from 7 minutes to 1 minute and then we'll never get the full version of the ones that are really short.

RayJason 15th March 2011 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 2652043)
No one said it was just AHS... No one's that delusional. But pieces did bring ayu trance up and together he and I asked everyone for help. Word got around beyond AHS and even Japanese fans jumped in to ask for ayu-ro mix. So no one is saying it's just us but it did start here.

Not to be rude, but I'm sick of people who obviously weren't even around for this telling us what really happened. Yes, Avex more than likely had the idea for ayu-mi-x 7 already in consideration but it was our collective voices as FANS that made it possible for it to be released now and to include other genres such as trance, acoustic orchestra and eurobeat. These genres haven't been used in a remix album since 2002/2003 so there was no reason to suspect that they would be included in the next remix series unless we ASKED. And so we did and it happened. STOP TRYING TO TAKE THAT AWAY FROM US.

______

Hello, I usually don't want to have the last word (or even argue with ppl), but I just can't resist now.. I don't know what your problem is but all i expressed here was my own opinion about the "OMFG WE MADE AYU-MIX-7- HAPPEN". I mean like wtf .....

And It seems to me that I offended you in some way, Excuse me if thats what you think I did. You are kidding yourself if you think that you and another AHS member made all of this happen on your own. It's not just the two of you starting this, It's the whole Ayu network (FANS). They/We made that happen. (NO ONE (also not two,three,four people) ON THEIR OWN)

And this:
"These genres haven't been used in a remix album since 2002/2003 so there was no reason to suspect that they would be included in the next remix series unless we ASKED. And so we did and it happened.STOP TRYING TO TAKE THAT AWAY FROM US."

Are you referring to yourself and someone else? Because once again, you didn't make this happen on your own, sure as a big network you did, but not on your own. And I'm not taking anything away, I'm just being real.

And as far for the "Not to be rude, but I'm sick of people who obviously weren't even around for this telling us what really happened." comment.

Oh I was there, (when ayu-trance-7 was announced) I watch AHS actively since Love Songs' Debut. I only think that I missed the message saying this:

"[insert your username here] requested an ayu remix album, so we will just do that! Be sure to remember [insert username], because he/she is responsible for us releasing ayu-trance-7. We never thought of releasing another remix album. ~from ayu. ..

the fans made this happen , Not one or two people in general.

i know im making a problem (sorry to all of you who disturb their selves because of me) for such a small thing, but i can't stand people like the user whom I quoted ..IMO I think that some people need to get a grip on reality.

ANYWAY IM HAPPY THAT AYU-MI-X 7 + THE ORCHESTRA / TRANCE WILL BE RELEASED SOON. and that counts :)

TeamAyu2004 15th March 2011 07:54 PM

Well, there is only 12 tracks and I assume that the album will be an hour so were looking at pretty long tracks

RayJason 15th March 2011 07:59 PM

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Originally Posted by love in music (Post 2652049)
you tell em girl.
really though, so what if fans made most of this happen? why is it so important for some people to try to prove they didn't? do some of you guys just enjoy trying to rain on peoples parades all the damn time? I don't get it.

And this ..

"so what if fans made most of this happen? why is it so important for some people to try to prove they didn't?"

Please point out for me, where I said that the fans didn't made this possible, I'm interested.

TeamAyu2004 15th March 2011 08:06 PM

At the same time you can ask "why mus people prove that we fist make it happen"
I'm not taking sides mind you, I dont think it's a big deal either way. We should all just be glad that WE got the albums!

love in music 15th March 2011 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RayJason (Post 2652664)
And this ..

"so what if fans made most of this happen? why is it so important for some people to try to prove they didn't?"

Please point out for me, where I said that the fans didn't made this possible, I'm interested.

I wasn't talking to you, get over yourself. Damn.

RayJason 15th March 2011 08:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by love in music (Post 2652672)
I wasn't talking to you, get over yourself. Damn.

You were talking about my post, nobody said that you were talking to me. Maybe you should try to read first and then comment.

Remember 1st. reading , after you read something then you can comment !!

Good luck.

RayJason 15th March 2011 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 2652669)
At the same time you can ask "why mus people prove that we fist make it happen"
I'm not taking sides mind you, I dont think it's a big deal either way. We should all just be glad that WE got the albums!

Yeah I 100% completely agree with u. Sure I'm rly happy that this will be released (only too bad that it's postponed), but it's just that some people claim to know a lot while they actually do not. And that disturbs me.

jbrat2219 15th March 2011 09:36 PM

Seriously, what is wrong with people's reading comprehension...

Quote:

Originally Posted by RayJason (Post 2652660)
______

You are kidding yourself if you think that you and another AHS member made all of this happen on your own. It's not just the two of you starting this, It's the whole Ayu network (FANS). They/We made that happen.(NO ONE (also not two,three,four people) ON THEIR OWN)

Are you referring to yourself and someone else? Because once again, you didn't make this happen on your own, sure as a big network you did, but not on your own. And I'm not taking anything away, I'm just being real.

...

the fans made this happen , Not one or two people in general.

I SAID COLLECTIVE VOICES AS FANS, NOT ME AND ONE OTHER PERSON. WE, THE FANS, MADE IT HAPPEN THROUGH OUR REQUESTS TO AYU AND MAX.

Just in case you were unable to read correctly the first time.

Kanzaki 15th March 2011 09:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keiichi_JPU (Post 2651327)
It does look that way, and don't get me wrong I would love to believe that but I just can't. It just seems too out of this world to me that we can actually persuade a megastar like Ayu to release something. I just can't grasp the idea of it!

But all the evidence points towards it, so I guess we made the impossible happen! :)

Wait, what? What is there not to believe? :laugh You don't have to believe whatever; because it happened.

Some members in here tweeted Ayu if she was every going to do another Ayu-mi-x album. It was not just one person asking, it was an entire discussion with people who wanted a new Ayu-mi-x. It was an effort, many members getting together, trying to "spam" her a bit with requests for the new remix album, because we really, really wanted one. I thought; "Yeah, good luck with that". I was skeptical, but so were they. A few minutes, I check back to see a tweet that says: "Ok! Let's do it!" from Ayu. People were going "Huh? Ayu are you serious?" And then they saw she'd conversed with Max, her producer, on twitter. Here's roughly what they said:

Ayu: Shall we do a new Ayu-mi-x?
Max: Yes, let's do it.

People asked BOTH Ayu and Max if it was going to happen. They said yes.

It's a big thing, but it's not out of this world. Ayu is a super-duper megastar, but she's also just a normal human being, like you and I. Also, she's very close to her fans, I don't know if that's just part of who she is as a person. I believe it to be so.

Also I do not understand what is gained by trying to strip those AHS members of that achievement. They were so proud and I felt that in that moment, we all felt that we became much closer to one of our favorite singers, by asking her to push Max forward and get it released. If people are annoyed by that, well then it's their problem.

There is no point in discussing it. We witnessed what happened. And it was magical :heart

Tasked 15th March 2011 10:07 PM

seeing as our twitter-messages DIRECTLY evoked a response from Max Matsuura saying he will consider it, and then saying he will make it happen, yes... We DID make it happen... Sooner or later there would've been an Ayu-mi-x 7 of course, and maybe we were just representative for 'the voice of all Ayufans'... but fact is, a small group asked, and max matsuura responded... Damn some people here are jealous that they weren't the ones on twitter :p sad sad ~~

Pieces_of_SEVEN 15th March 2011 10:28 PM

I wonder how long this will be delayed. One week? Four weeks? :(

love in music 15th March 2011 10:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RayJason (Post 2652675)
You were talking about my post, nobody said that you were talking to me. Maybe you should try to read first and then comment.

Remember 1st. reading , after you read something then you can comment !!

Good luck.

I was talking about posts I've seen here and at other places claiming we had no part in these releases. I have no problem reading here, so I don't need your advice on that. but damn you're a little ***** aren't you?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN (Post 2652718)
I wonder how long this will be delayed. One week? Four weeks? :(

I was already thinking it was a long wait til the original release date lol :(
oh well, I understand it though. I hope the mixes & tour are worth the wait.

channy 15th March 2011 10:54 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN (Post 2652718)
I wonder how long this will be delayed. One week? Four weeks? :(

What do you mean? What will be delayed?

Edit: Just guessing: Do you mean the EMS delivery from Japan to your country?

TeamAyu2004 15th March 2011 11:12 PM

^ the release dates are being delayed till april

RayJason 15th March 2011 11:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by love in music (Post 2652725)
I was talking about posts I've seen here and at other places claiming we had no part in these releases. I have no problem reading here, so I don't need your advice on that. but damn you're a little ***** aren't you?

Uhh your mother obviously didn't teach you manners did she? When you are getting mad or something, you should not scold or **** people ... It shows how quickly you get mad. I blame your education. And + It's not allowed in here.

Originally Posted by jbrat2219
Not to be rude, but I'm sick of people who obviously weren't even around for this telling us what really happened. Yes, Avex more than likely had the idea for ayu-mi-x 7 already in consideration but it was our collective voices as FANS that made it possible for it to be released now and to include other genres such as trance, acoustic orchestra and eurobeat. These genres haven't been used since 2003 so there was no reason to suspect that they would be included in the next remix series unless we ASKED. And so we did and it happened. STOP TRYING TO TAKE THAT AWAY FROM US.

Quote:

Originally Posted by love in music (Post 2652049)
you tell em girl.
really though, so what if fans made most of this happen? why is it so important for some people to try to prove they didn't? do some of you guys just enjoy trying to rain on peoples parades all the damn time? I don't get it.

HAHAHA ... you were encouraging jbrat2219 "to tell em" since he/she replied this to me that means you were also addressing me.

[insert silence] DUHHHHH >.> YOU ARE ADRESSING ME WITH THIS. I find it very childish from you to tell me that I have to get over myself, while you are the one that has to "get over yourself".

Please, 1st read then 2nd comment. <- While your at it, please use your brain too.
Good luck !!!

Sorry people once again for such a post.

RayJason 15th March 2011 11:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 2652698)
Seriously, what is wrong with people's reading comprehension...



I SAID COLLECTIVE VOICES AS FANS, NOT ME AND ONE OTHER PERSON. WE, THE FANS, MADE IT HAPPEN THROUGH OUR REQUESTS TO AYU AND MAX.

Just in case you were unable to read correctly the first time.

Okay, So that brings us to the 1st point.

With my 1st post I basically said: "It isn't AHS on its own what made all of this happen, it's the fans in general".

Now we seem to be on the same line, yay.

Pieces_of_SEVEN 15th March 2011 11:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 2652742)
^ the release dates are being delayed till april

We don't have confirmation of an April release as far as I know...

jbrat2219 15th March 2011 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RayJason (Post 2652747)
Okay, So that brings us to the 1st point.

With my 1st post I basically said: "It isn't AHS on its own what made all of this happen, it's the fans in general".

Now we seem to be on the same line, yay.

It seems we were always on the same line which is why I don't know why you were refuting me LOL.

RayJason 15th March 2011 11:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 2652757)
It seems we were always on the same line which is why I don't know why you were refuting me LOL.

Haha yes, lets just ignore it xD.

I am curious however what happened to the release dates, I thought March 30th was too far away, and now we have to wait longer.

Of course I respect it, because it's unfortunate that this horrible earthquake and tsunami striked Japan. I hope everything will be fixed soon.

jbrat2219 15th March 2011 11:39 PM

I don't think we have confirmation on the new dates yet but I think it'll be some time in April. At least I hope it will be...

Pieces_of_SEVEN 15th March 2011 11:42 PM

I agree with both of u above.

RayJason 15th March 2011 11:42 PM

I'm sure (I SURE HOPE THAT IM WRONG THOUGH) that it will be released in May. That's because of the reconstruction of everything and stuff. Japan has to recover, and who knows when all of this is going to end :(.

Oh well, i keep waiting impatiently .. xD

Keiichi_JPU 15th March 2011 11:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kanzaki88 (Post 2652702)
Wait, what? What is there not to believe? :laugh You don't have to believe whatever; because it happened.

Yeah I saw it happen, I was there and I'm pretty sure I even tweeted her about it too (but I spammed her so many times I can't remember if I spammed her about this as well :laugh). I just found it really hard to believe because to me, she and Avex just seem like such huge corporations you know what I mean. But you know what, I will stop whining and I'll just start believing it :) After all, it really did happen. We asked, and we shall receive!

We made it happen! :)

TeamAyu2004 15th March 2011 11:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN (Post 2652748)
We don't have confirmation of an April release as far as I know...

CDjapan said that they were delayed till April, I was just quoting them..

Pieces_of_SEVEN 16th March 2011 12:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 2652785)
CDjapan said that they were delayed till April, I was just quoting them..

Where/when did they say that?

TeamAyu2004 16th March 2011 12:11 AM

I cant seem to find it, but there was a post that someone said that cdjapan e-mailed them and said that all releases where postponed till April..
Ill continue to look, though

jbrat2219 16th March 2011 12:18 AM

I hope it's early or mid April... Nothing in the 20's or 30's...

TeamAyu2004 16th March 2011 12:24 AM

I do know that on the front page they are still saying that the new Girls Generation is coming out April 13 still.
But now im pretty sure we will have to wait till avex wants to release them. Im pretty sure they dont want to put them out if she has direct competition coming out on that day too, you know?

njanjayrp 16th March 2011 12:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 2652811)
I hope it's early or mid April... Nothing in the 20's or 30's...

As truehappiness said somewhere, I guess the best chances are of them being released at the same time as those Blu-rays. So yeah I guess we have a month+ of wait ahead, but I guess it isn't the time for them to be occupied with new releases :)

jbrat2219 16th March 2011 12:28 AM

Part of me wishes they would release all the stuff on time but have half of the profit go to charity for the quake! That way we still get everything we want :D Besides, sales mostly go to Avex, right? They can afford to sacrifice half of the profit...

Picaflor 7/4 16th March 2011 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 2652811)
I hope it's early or mid April... Nothing in the 20's or 30's...

me too. I hope nothing farther than the 15th. I don't want it to be postponed til the 30th or something.

TeamAyu2004 16th March 2011 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 2652785)
CDjapan said that they were delayed till April, I was just quoting them..

Im quoting myself.. HAHA...
So, I looked in all the places I thought it would be, guess I imagined it, i couldnt find it ... sad.. :(

njanjayrp 16th March 2011 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 2652816)
Part of me wishes they would release all the stuff on time but have half of the profit go to charity for the quake! That way we still get everything we want :D Besides, sales mostly go to Avex, right? They can afford to sacrifice half of the profit...

Yeah, me too. I really wanted to see the RnRC tour at last and hear the trance/acoustic remixes, but I guess this is for the best. Yeah avex is getting most of the money, but I am not sure how much profit would ayu-mix 7 bring, but yeah it would be better if they could pull that off.

channy 16th March 2011 01:46 AM

Funny thing. I was actually the first person to mention the idea, that they probably cancel the ayu-mi-x 7 release date. Almost no one was agreeing with me and now it's indeed postponed? Did I get that right? :mgagged

Picaflor 7/4 16th March 2011 01:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShiSeido (Post 2652860)
Funny thing. I was actually the first person to mention the idea, that they probably cancel the ayu-mi-x 7 release date. Almost no one was agreeing with me and now it's indeed postponed? Did I get that right? :mgagged

it better not be canceled. we've waited for 7+ years for the next trance album. I hope it's just postponed. It's a reason to delay it's release for several weeks, but to cancel it, after having it already done with the covers, and packaging, and remixing and everything seems a bit extreme.

TeamAyu2004 16th March 2011 02:17 AM

^ Im pretty sure she just ment that the release date was canceled, thats all.

channy 16th March 2011 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 2652873)
^ Im pretty sure she just ment that the release date was canceled, thats all.

Yes. That's what I meant.

And...

I'm a... ... guy :mgagged

Pieces_of_SEVEN 16th March 2011 02:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 2652816)
Part of me wishes they would release all the stuff on time but have half of the profit go to charity for the quake! That way we still get everything we want :D Besides, sales mostly go to Avex, right? They can afford to sacrifice half of the profit...

This sounds perfect! Tweet Max...LMAO

TeamAyu2004 16th March 2011 02:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ShiSeido (Post 2652881)
Yes. That's what I meant.

And...

I'm a... ... guy :mgagged

lol, gag that monkey!
Sorry, it seems like I always do that.. if your girl i call you a guy, and vice verse.

Didz-19 16th March 2011 02:39 AM

GOD! Why everybody's fighting over this?! Japan is not in a good condition right now. Please stop!

Pieces_of_SEVEN 16th March 2011 03:51 AM

Maybe I'm just in denial, but I wonder what the chances are of Avex realizing "Oh wait, we can release this on 3.30 after all!" lol

channy 16th March 2011 04:01 AM

Where is the official news of the postponed release of ayu-mi-x 7, btw?

AyumiAi 16th March 2011 04:03 AM

here's one of the sources :) its Tokyohive
http://www.tokyohive.com/2011/03/ave...arch-releases/
all AVEX releases are being postponed

jbrat2219 16th March 2011 05:14 AM

Damn, no chance of asking MAX about the donation idea...

Ayufan11 16th March 2011 06:03 AM

"March 14, 2011

The earthquake and the subsequent tsunamis that hit Japan on March 11 have devastated a large area in northeast Japan.

Fortunately in Tokyo, there have been only a few minor damages, and most businesses haven't been affected seriously, including CDJapan and its suppliers. So, we are happy to announce that we are able to continue processing orders as usual.

However, there will be scheduled electric power outages in Tokyo for a while, and our shipping department won't be able to operate during the day. Even though Japan Post has no problem sending orders overseas, it will take a few days until we are able to resume the shipping process after working out a feasible work schedule.

After March 16, we expect to be able to send orders once a day as usual, but please allow a few extra days than indicated on our site for your order to become available for shipping for a while.

Otherwise, everything is fine at CDJapan. There won't be any problem to process orders. It is taking a lot of extra time, but we are responding to inquiries too.

We received a very large number of messages to find out if we are OK, and we are happy to reassure you that everyone at CDJapan and all of our families have been fine and safe. Thank you so much for your kind thoughts.
Sincerely,
Toshi Makiya
CDJapan "

Above is what was tweeted so since ayumix7 released after March 16 I don't see why it would be delayed? IDK, Just a thought... What's everyone else think?


http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/help/maintenance.html

Pieces_of_SEVEN 16th March 2011 06:20 AM

I think it has more to do with Avex than CDJ. I don't really get it either though.

I guess lots of people won't really be buying music if they can't really find their homes.

Economically though, I don't see what the benefits are of postponing these releases.

TeamAyu2004 16th March 2011 06:26 AM

Who knows, maybe they have been getting a lot of flack for some reason.
I know Ayumi was being accused of self promoting while tweeting during all this mess.
It might be because of the company looking like they want to make money when the country is in such a horrible mess??
Who knows?

IYFreak 16th March 2011 06:38 AM

Avex decided to delay all of there releases:
http://edohsama.blogspot.com/2011/03...-releases.html

truehappiness 16th March 2011 06:44 AM

CDJapan just successfully sent out their first shipment of orders earlier today, it seems.

I wonder if ayu-mi-x 7's CDs have all already been made and are sitting in a warehouse somewhere.

TeamAyu2004 16th March 2011 06:46 AM

^They should be.. I mean, in america i know that albums and stuff get sent to the stores like a week before they come out. (at least thats how they did it at walmart when i worked for them)
So Avex may not of sent out the albums from their factories..
Which come to think of it, I wonder if they lost anything in the flood and earthquake?? Maybe thats why they got postponed.. to many were lost?

Kanzaki 16th March 2011 08:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keiichi_JPU (Post 2652773)
Yeah I saw it happen, I was there and I'm pretty sure I even tweeted her about it too (but I spammed her so many times I can't remember if I spammed her about this as well :laugh). I just found it really hard to believe because to me, she and Avex just seem like such huge corporations you know what I mean. But you know what, I will stop whining and I'll just start believing it :) After all, it really did happen. We asked, and we shall receive!

We made it happen! :)

I didn't say you were whining >.> I guess my fierce dedication to repeadetly summarize what happened that day, are just fueled by other AHS members inability to read.

I think I've already, in like 3 different threads, have given "disbelievers" the "summarum" of what went down on twitter last year. Everyone of us, including me, needs to just calm down.

I can't wait till everyone has their copies and the main topic won't be this crap, but the actual MUSIC.

Ningyo Hime 16th March 2011 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kanzaki88 (Post 2652702)

Also I do not understand what is gained by trying to strip those AHS members of that achievement. They were so proud and I felt that in that moment, we all felt that we became much closer to one of our favorite singers, by asking her to push Max forward and get it released. If people are annoyed by that, well then it's their problem.

Exactly, they're not harming anyone and it makes them happy :yes if it wasnt their doing , it wasnt their doing.It doesnt matter anyway.

Keiichi_JPU 16th March 2011 10:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kanzaki88 (Post 2653074)
I can't wait till everyone has their copies and the main topic won't be this crap, but the actual MUSIC.

So true! :yes

Also, this is the email CDjapan just sent me:




Hello.

We are sending you this email to inform you that record companies are postponing new releases to come out in March until later in April.

By taking this measure, they hope all resources available for transportations may be used to help the efforts to reach out to people in the devastated regions.

CDJapan fully supports this measure, but at the same time, we apologize for the inconvenience caused by the delay.

List of Your Orders and Items to be Postponed

--------------
OrderNo:xxxxxxxxxxxxx
AVCD-38300 Ayumi Hamasaki / ayu-mi-x 7 -Limited Complete Box- (Title subject to change) [Limited Release]

We will let you know again once they announce the new release dates.

Thank you so much for your understanding.

TeamAyu2004 16th March 2011 02:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Keiichi_JPU (Post 2653150)

Also, this is the email CDjapan just sent me:




Hello.

We are sending you this email to inform you that record companies are postponing new releases to come out in March until later in April.

By taking this measure, they hope all resources available for transportations may be used to help the efforts to reach out to people in the devastated regions.

CDJapan fully supports this measure, but at the same time, we apologize for the inconvenience caused by the delay.

List of Your Orders and Items to be Postponed


AH! This is what i was looking for yesterday! I knew i wasnt seeing things!
SO it is till April!

Pieces_of_SEVEN 16th March 2011 02:57 PM

I hope so. Early April lol

jbrat2219 16th March 2011 02:58 PM

Early early April... 1st xD;

AyuRox 16th March 2011 03:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Picaflor 7/4 (Post 2652656)
i hope it isn't non-stop. cause then it'll have kickass remixes that will probably only be about 1:30 long. with nonstop, every song varies from 7 minutes to 1 minute and then we'll never get the full version of the ones that are really short.

I'm glad i'm not the only one who feels this way. :yes
I hate the fact that AT 2 is megamixed. :( I feel like when albums are megamixed, I'm only getting half the song and i can't listen to a song without having the end of the previous song and beginning of the next song rear in their ugly heads when i'm listening to it. I feel jipped when albums are megamixed. :no

NintendoHTF1242 16th March 2011 04:36 PM

^ Guess you and I wouldn't get along either. Love mega mix albums.

bemanicho1 16th March 2011 04:51 PM

I love megamixes, but I also don't like it when they only include a short portion of the remix in it and don't release the remix in full separately. But also, the ayutrance albums like 1 and 3, even though they aren't dj mixes, don't have the full versions of the tracks either. Those are all shortened edits of the full remixes which are around 6-7 minutes usually with dj intros and outros. I hope Avex releases all of the full versions of the remixes on the ayumix 7 trance and house CDs separately like on itunes or something..


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