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J/TOP2326 14th December 2014 05:02 PM

zutto is amazing. i just heard 10 seconds, but its grreeeat. instagram: princeofjpop

BlackSilence 14th December 2014 05:41 PM

^well true... I guess that's why they didn't give any of them out earlier.

ayumisrael 14th December 2014 08:20 PM

It's too bad non of the songs have tie-ins, just when ayu's releasing 3 songs for the japanese public's taste...

Delicious n Bold 15th December 2014 12:37 AM

Ayu posted new lyrics on her official Facebook

http://i1304.photobucket.com/albums/...psa8d22c40.jpg

pommy48 15th December 2014 12:53 AM

I think I've gotten to the point where I can translate her lyrics in my head without actually knowing much Japanese :laugh

But still, translation please!

Delirium-Zer0 15th December 2014 05:43 AM

This is pretty rough and it's nearly midnight but I think I have this right...

Quote:

Hey, if I were to deceive you
Can you say I'd be forgiven?
Hey, what on earth is the standard
by which everyone else is measured?
Hey, if nothing from here on out
matters anyway,
if we assume there's a line,
Then who decides where it is?

hayasaki 15th December 2014 06:04 AM

Really beautiful lyrics. I wonder which song is this. Sounds like a different matter from Zutto preview she posted before.

tenshi no hane 15th December 2014 07:37 AM

I'd say:

Quote:

Hey, what standard do other people use to measure?
Hey, if there is a line that says "going any further than this is wrong"
Then who decides where it is?
I left out the first sentence, because we need more context to understand who is doing what. Gotta love the lack of pronouns in Japanese.

Anyhow. I love the sound of these lyrics <3

freedreamer 15th December 2014 12:02 PM

Beautiful lyrics!! Definitely relatable

Delirium-Zer0 15th December 2014 01:11 PM

aaahhhh i missed that "tte" there - your translation is better, haha :D

The first two lines could definitely be "If someone were to deceive you, would you say they're forgiven"... context is definitely a tricky beast in Japanese.

njanjayrp 15th December 2014 03:27 PM

I like where this going.

chobits1047 15th December 2014 03:37 PM

i found an instagram account that u colud hear Zutto... for 15sec.
instagram:princeofjpop.
thats a really great voice!!

LEOyumi 15th December 2014 03:53 PM

WOW... Do I sense a MY STORY type of ballad in Zutto...?
Love the preview!

RealLight 15th December 2014 03:54 PM

http://instagram.com/p/wknsFFD1ed/?modal=true

That sounded like a winter version of Hello new me...

KPL 15th December 2014 03:56 PM

it sounds really good!

And too bad this single doesn't have any tie-up. AVEX SUCKS!!!!!!!!

Pieces_of_SEVEN 15th December 2014 04:03 PM

I just came here to post that...posted 2d ago...where did he get this?! lol

Earth_maiden 15th December 2014 04:04 PM

Wah, I like how it sounds so far. Hopefully she'll perform it live at CDL... :luv2

Benikari47 15th December 2014 04:08 PM

It sounds like a winter version of "Will" which is pretty great! I like it so far.

holy_arrow 15th December 2014 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Benikari47 (Post 3109260)
It sounds like a winter version of "Will" which is pretty great! I like it so far.

I do think so ...:love

Zeke. 15th December 2014 04:09 PM

Damn it, it sounds really dull! Not powerful or "epic" at all. :( it's too sweet and soft. If anyone wants to speak about "generic" songs, so far, this could end up being the definition. It really doesn't sound like a winter ballad to me in the traditional sense at all.

And so the dream slips through the cracks between my fingers like grains of sand...

I will wait for other songs... Hoping for one good track. I've moved my poker chips to the rock-ballad.

Yuniz_hime 15th December 2014 04:20 PM

I like it. But where he got it.

RealLight 15th December 2014 04:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke. (Post 3109262)
Damn it, it sounds really dull! Not powerful or "epic" at all. :( it's too sweet and soft. If anyone wants to speak about "generic" songs, so far, this could end up being the definition. It really doesn't sound like a winter ballad to me in the traditional sense at all.

And so the dream slips through the cracks between my fingers like grains of sand...

I will wait for other songs... Hoping for one good track. I've moved my poker chips to the rock-ballad.

This.. :(

thinkingoutloud89 15th December 2014 04:46 PM

sounds lik WILL, voice is annoying tho.

Refix 15th December 2014 04:52 PM

Oh I just gonna pretend doesn't read those comments about the preview. It just a preview anyway, can't decided its gonna be shity or glorious.
While the lyrics, that's pretty powerful. Not so generic like telling a love life some couples or so, which is soo Ayu in her winter song.

AyuGAME 15th December 2014 04:53 PM

sounds good!!! and yes i agree i hear Will in the beginning

tokyoxjapanxfan 15th December 2014 04:57 PM

Huh
Not what I imagined haha.

Reminds me of petal and will.
Still sounds good though :)

Aderianu 15th December 2014 04:57 PM

人を求め、人を憎み、人を信じた。
結局は傷つけた傷と一緒に生きて行く。。
http://i.imgur.com/DQMoGV9.jpg

krtman2002 15th December 2014 05:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke. (Post 3109262)
Damn it, it sounds really dull! Not powerful or "epic" at all. :( it's too sweet and soft. If anyone wants to speak about "generic" songs, so far, this could end up being the definition. It really doesn't sound like a winter ballad to me in the traditional sense at all.

And so the dream slips through the cracks between my fingers like grains of sand...

I will wait for other songs... Hoping for one good track. I've moved my poker chips to the rock-ballad.

Oh, Zeke doesn't like it... what a surprise, :D

Is there any Ayu song in the last 5 year you like about her? hahaha.

The preview is TOO SHORT for me to say if I like it or not yet. I'll wait for a longer preview to say something.

kawaiihime001 15th December 2014 05:08 PM

really love the covers!!!! :)
looking forward to it!!

Yoshiaki 15th December 2014 05:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by holy_arrow (Post 3109261)
I do think so ...:love

Ditto!

And I like this song! Hope this single able to get 1st in Oricon! Haha!

tsumekaze_ 15th December 2014 05:21 PM

It's 15 freakin' seconds. How do y'all have opinions about it.

SpiceSquad! 15th December 2014 05:26 PM

so far so good!

krtman2002 15th December 2014 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsumekaze_ (Post 3109285)
It's 15 freakin' seconds. How do y'all have opinions about it.

hahaha. EXACTLY!!! :yes:yes:yes:yes:yes:yes

It's impossible to know if it's good or not!

Yoake 15th December 2014 05:53 PM

At that moment I really like what I'm hearing. I want the full song.

Zeke. 15th December 2014 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by krtman2002 (Post 3109279)
Oh, Zeke doesn't like it... what a surprise, :D

Is there any Ayu song in the last 5 year you like about her? hahaha.

The preview is TOO SHORT for me to say if I like it or not yet. I'll wait for a longer preview to say something.

GREEN
Sparkle
Days
NEXT LEVEL
identity
Microphone
BALLAD
Sunrise

Everything on Love songs, minus Thank U

BRILLANTE
Reminds me
Tell me why
SHAKE IT
Missing
Wake me up
Snowy kiss
Sweet scar
Gloria
Lelio

And the utada cover

Zeke. 15th December 2014 06:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsumekaze_ (Post 3109285)
It's 15 freakin' seconds. How do y'all have opinions about it.

You can tell a lot by that much. You already know the height at which the song will reach - the climax, which is the grandest part.

For example, I remember when Days preview was released. It was tiny. A damn cell phone clip recorded with a microphone. But, I knew it would forever be a favorite of mine. I knew in that moment, it was everything I needed.

!Lawi! 15th December 2014 06:02 PM

^Wow. Are you me? This is like my personal best of!

I won't listen to the preview, not when the full song should be out in 24h! But I want tooooo...

xLuna&1LOVE 15th December 2014 06:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke. (Post 3109262)
Damn it, it sounds really dull! Not powerful or "epic" at all. :( it's too sweet and soft. If anyone wants to speak about "generic" songs, so far, this could end up being the definition. It really doesn't sound like a winter ballad to me in the traditional sense at all.

And so the dream slips through the cracks between my fingers like grains of sand...

I will wait for other songs... Hoping for one good track. I've moved my poker chips to the rock-ballad.

I agree to dullsounding part. I am not really fond of the preview. Hopefully the full version will change my mind.

Gustavopc 15th December 2014 06:24 PM

*sigh* not feeling the preview, hoping for the verses to kill it (and for the rock ballad to kick some snowmen ass)

Yoshiaki 15th December 2014 06:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tsumekaze_ (Post 3109285)
It's 15 freakin' seconds. How do y'all have opinions about it.

Haha, true 'bout that. But isn't that the length of a CM as well? At least that 15 seconds make me feels that it is nice, and would wanna/look forward listen to the full version. I may be wrong though ^^

Delicious n Bold 15th December 2014 06:27 PM

My sister who doesn't even listen to ayu actively like me said that the snippet sounds exactly like something she's done before. She better drag ayu. Remember that game where we guess what songs she'll recycle next? I'm too tired to guess what songs were recycled for this song though.
I'm with zeke, praying for that rock song.

Uknow! 15th December 2014 06:29 PM

I really like it! I don't know why people is complaining or saying is a generic ballad, for me it not sound like a generic ballad. It sounds like a Will and I love that song, but I'm always seeing people complaining about all things Ayu does and I can't understand. Yes, there are a lot of opinions, I understand it. However, people acts like Ayu is the devil of music and all she do is trash and in my opinion her music is still good, not like the past but in general comparing to the music industry nowadays, Ayu is really good.

RealLight 15th December 2014 06:50 PM

For me it's a 50/50 case about the previews.

Like, when they released the snippets from Colours, i thought Terminal would be one of Ayu's most epic songs ever, and then i listened the whole thing... it took me some months to start to ''like'' it.

But, it was a different case with Ayu's cover of Movin' on without you. I loved the preview and the same thing happened with the full song.

RealLight 15th December 2014 06:51 PM

Also, i think i'm the only one who don't see anything on Zutto... that remembers Will :irked

tenshi no hane 15th December 2014 07:13 PM

^ Me neither.
I quite like it so far.

Thanks for the lyrics snippet, Aderianu

hidekirby 15th December 2014 07:18 PM

^They don't have much in common except the "zutto, zutto" which echoes the "kira kira..." in WILL.

Her voice sounds really great! Clear and quite high!
Can't say the same for the song yet... the chorus sounds like it could be replaced by any of her uninspired/lazy/you-already-know-how-it-will-sound-and-it-will-bore-you-to-death ballads and you wouldn't notice it.

Hope it's just the snippet and the rest is fresh!

ayumisrael 15th December 2014 07:37 PM

Sounds like the perfect winter ballad. Oh how I missed those from ayu.

love in music 15th December 2014 07:39 PM

Omg I love her voice in the preview and it sounds beautiful so far. I'm excited to hear the verses. I do have a fear it might drag on like some of her generic ballads, but keeping hope that it won't, since she usually delivers on the winter ballads. Ughh Wednesday hurry up!

Kaiouforever 15th December 2014 07:51 PM

YAY! It sounds like a great ballad.

Tom Punks 15th December 2014 08:16 PM

I like how anytime there's a negative reaction to a preview it's all "HOW CAN YOU GUYS JUDGE FROM 15 SECONDS YOU CAN'T" but it's perfectly possible to make a positive judgement from a short clip apparently lol

Haven't even listened to the preview yet tho

DonkeyKongRemix 15th December 2014 08:44 PM

hmm...

I think I'd have to hear more to really decide what I think... So far I'm not digging the vocals all that much but the melody itself was ok.

zellyx 15th December 2014 08:52 PM

Her vocals really do sound clear! Reminds me of her really young days, almost clear, bright and nasal

Didz-19 15th December 2014 08:54 PM

I don't know...it doesn't even sound like WILL at all...just the "Zutto, Zutto" which reminds us of "Kira, Kira" in WILL...musically, not the same. We need to wait for the full version of the song....it's only 15 seconds preview, like 5% of the whole song. You guys not gonna sentence someone to jail with only just 5% evidences? Let's all wait :)

BlackSilence 15th December 2014 09:02 PM

LOL it does remind me of Will xD i cannot say anything else, though apart of it sounds fine nothing spectacular. Might be one of those songs that i will listen once in a while but won't remember the title of xD

Zeke. 15th December 2014 09:32 PM

As another member mentioned, it resembles "Hello new me," more-so than Will IMO.

My Rainbow 15th December 2014 10:07 PM

I LOVE IT.

hayasaki 15th December 2014 10:28 PM

Its OK. Not impressed much but I have a feeling i'm gonna love it ^^

MissElin_ 15th December 2014 10:37 PM

I need more! Can't from any oppinion on only that. MOOAAARRRRR!

DonkeyKongRemix 15th December 2014 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LEOyumi (Post 3109255)
WOW... Do I sense a MY STORY type of ballad in Zutto...?
Love the preview!

Very interesting comparison there! Most people are saying either Will or Hello New Me, but I can totally hear what you're saying.

BlackSilence 15th December 2014 11:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Zeke. (Post 3109331)
As another member mentioned, it resembles "Hello new me," more-so than Will IMO.

i think now when you mentioned that....i hear a bit of both xD

thinkingoutloud89 15th December 2014 11:40 PM

how can one not here WILL? the mood, the pronounciation...everything

I cant see hello new me here...it was a terrible song...maybe only the high pitched voice

RealLight 15th December 2014 11:45 PM

The girlish voice, the generic sound and those drums (yeah, the drums), all of them just gave me some Hello new me vibes.

ExodusUK 15th December 2014 11:59 PM

Reminds me of SCAR but if Ayu recorded it today...with her heavy "kitchen sink" production/instrumentation style.

JackieRos 16th December 2014 12:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealLight (Post 3109342)
The girlish voice, the generic sound and those drums (yeah, the drums),
all of them just gave me some Hello new me vibes.

^for me that's not a good sound.
She sounds like she's trying to sound cutesy.

Delirium-Zer0 16th December 2014 12:06 AM

Zutto's melody seems so sad-but-hopeful though and Hello new me sounds very major key, happy, etc. They both have the cutesy voice but to me that's where the similarity ends. The cutesy voice really doesn't match the sadder-sounding melody, it sounds kinda like ayu is trying to recapture an old school sound but since we KNOW what her voice sounds like now, it isn't really working lol.

That said, hey, relative minor key = my kind of song! XD I like the preview alright, I might hate the full song or I might love it, but this is the kind of moment where I kinda require context. You can't tell if a song has any dynamics from a 15 second piece of the chorus. :P

love in music 16th December 2014 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Delirium-Zer0 (Post 3109347)
it sounds kinda like ayu is trying to recapture an old school sound but since we KNOW what her voice sounds like now, it isn't really working lol.

I agree but for me it's totally working lol

khan5 16th December 2014 01:23 AM

:( im disappointed, i was expecting something dark with vocals like reminds me. the song sounds way to sweet in my opinion.

jbrat2219 16th December 2014 02:19 AM

So much for loving generic ayu lol.

The clip is too short. I don't like it or hate it. I'm usually more into ayu's verses when it comes to her ballads. Most of the time I find them more compelling than the chorus. November would be the only exception that comes to mind. Although the song doesn't really feel like it has a chorus lol.

adantatu2 16th December 2014 02:23 AM

I need to resist, hahaha, the songs are coming probably on Wednesday, and I don't wanna get dissapointed.

andycruize 16th December 2014 02:25 AM

I love the preview of zutto...awesome

njanjayrp 16th December 2014 02:27 AM

I like Last minute better.

holy_arrow 16th December 2014 02:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 3109362)
I like Last minute better.

Last minute , but where ?

KPL 16th December 2014 03:14 AM

http://pan.baidu.com/s/1gdJ3J2b

Last Minute

kaima 16th December 2014 03:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LUOYUXIANG (Post 3109369)

so fuuuuuuuuckkking good!!!!!

orbitalaspect 16th December 2014 03:31 AM

^^^^ WWTTTTTFFFFF.... THERE. IS. A. GOD.

freedreamer 16th December 2014 03:33 AM

Baidu isnt working well!!! Any other way to hear it??

Edit: ok heard it!!! Really stronggg love it but her enunciation is kinda weird hahah

orbitalaspect 16th December 2014 03:34 AM

Zeke, seriously. Do you really not like these previews?! This is totally classic Ayu. Like right up our alley here!

I'm going to go out on a limb and say this single will be a nice return to form. I know we have just 15s previews for Zutto... and Last minute, but I think these songs will actually be what we've been waiting to hear for a few years now.

Zeke. 16th December 2014 03:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by orbitalaspect (Post 3109374)
Zeke, seriously. Do you really not like these previews?! This is totally classic Ayu. Like right up our alley here!

I'm going to go out on a limb and say this single will be a nice return to form. I know we have just 15s previews for Zutto... and Last minute, but I think these songs will actually be what we've been waiting to hear for a few years now.

I won't listen to Last minute until release. I've broken the bubble by listening to Zutto... which brought me back down to earth with my expectations.

It is true that I don't mind when Ayu recycles material, as long as the recycled material is either just as good or better than the material from the past that she drew from. For example, No way to say, momentum, and Days are all winter ballads yet they all have different atmosphere's and work perfectly for different types of winter scenery. They are all an "ace" in my book, but in my opinion all sound truly original in some way, shape or form.

We will see when the final product is released, but, as it stands right now, the song lacks power, and THAT's what I look for in a grand and true winter ballad.

Actually, the best way for me to describe this is that this sounds less like classic-Ayu, and more like a very basic KANA NISHINO type of track. Less of Ayu and more of Kana's "let me just sing this simple ballad sweetly". There's a fine line there. Ayu's ballads and/or greatest songs, always come with a bit of drama. Kana seriously is void of any sort of dramatics, and therefore, Zutto..., which sounds very straight-forward, comes off as a simple track that would suit Kana much better. Imagine Kana singing this and you'll know what I mean.

Delicious n Bold 16th December 2014 04:06 AM

Last minute has promise it seems.

The last thing I want is for Ayu to venture into Kana Nishino territory. Ugh. Anything but that. Even Yui would be ok because at least now she's in a rock band and I can at least stand Ayu's voice.

RealLight 16th December 2014 04:06 AM

Last minute sounds like Last Links... :no

Gustavopc 16th December 2014 04:20 AM

I also though of Kana but was afraid of talking about it and getting a bit... Judged :laugh Specially cause she's doing that "Zutto zutto" thing that Kana usually does with her ballads and lately Kuu also, but also the melody and the way she's using her voice tone... idk, its so generic it's more Kana than ayu

Pieces_of_SEVEN 16th December 2014 04:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealLight (Post 3109378)
Last minute sounds like Last Links... :no

No it doesn't. Last minute is actually rock it seems. Last Links is NOT rock. Idk

If anything, it's reminiscent of count down.

RealLight 16th December 2014 04:26 AM

^ The drums sounds a lot like Last Links and the melody doesn't appeal that much to me... just like Last Links :C

Pieces_of_SEVEN 16th December 2014 05:29 AM

Thank me later
浜崎あゆみ / Zutto...【先行short ver.】: http://youtu.be/DCosvWHogao

BlackSilence 16th December 2014 05:30 AM

OMG.... LAST MINUTE SOUNDS AMAZING...well at least the chorus. It makes me think of memorial address for some reason! I hope the whole song will be good! JESUS i really love this bit!

Pieces_of_SEVEN 16th December 2014 05:32 AM

浜崎あゆみ / Walk: http://youtu.be/Xtqkc1pLXIk

Violently Happy 16th December 2014 05:33 AM

I'm not liking these previews... Ayu's voice sounds forced on Last Minute, but I agree with artcika! The chorus reminds me of Memorial Address. I think maybe the same people who composed it?

Pieces_of_SEVEN 16th December 2014 05:34 AM

浜崎あゆみ / Last minute: http://youtu.be/jRAbUvt9FiQ

TheRainbow 16th December 2014 05:36 AM

All the previews sound great--her voice sounds really nice, too. :D

BlackSilence 16th December 2014 05:42 AM

wowwow slow down lol I can't get past Last Minute's 15 seconds and you are throwing short versions here xD

Zutto seriously now reminds me of petal a lot. Her vocals are fine. But i cannot say i trully love the track to bits. It's nice though.

Walk got me with the first 10 seconds. Except the lalalas. But the melody really sounds lovelly. I really love how it builds up. It's quite a good track. I'm digging this! And her vocals sound nice too!

Last Minute just killed me. Best track in the whole single. There's quite a bit of emotion in it it seems, that I never really heard before in her songs. PERIOD. BEST TRACK. WOW.

so Zutto is by far the weakest piece of music on here. But I actually do like the whole thing.

Ayu, i apploud you. GOOD JOB. LAST MINUTE is basicly the best thing that happened since......i don't know when lol like this is exactly what i fell in love with Ayu for.
Also i don't know why but Walk and Last Minute gives me a strong GACKT feeling too. I like it!

Pieces_of_SEVEN 16th December 2014 05:50 AM

Yes!! Last minute>>>>walk>>>>Zutto...

Violently Happy 16th December 2014 05:54 AM

I normally love tracks when I hear the first 30 seconds, but I can't say the same. :'( I feel sad when I'm the black sheep out of the bunch. Lol

Violently Happy 16th December 2014 05:55 AM

Wait everyone listened to the 1-2 minute previews right?

BlackSilence 16th December 2014 05:58 AM

^^lol it's alright. I've used to be that one all the time, it's been a while since i wasn't lol

^i did.lol


Man, Last minute needs a music video.

Violently Happy 16th December 2014 06:01 AM

Lol I'm going to force myself to listen to them over and over again until I like them!!! :D Lol I listened to all three already and I can see Last Minute growing on me just, because of the Memorial Address sound! XD

Edit: artcika you felt the GACKT sound also? It immediately reminded me of GACKT's sound!

Coelacanth 16th December 2014 06:12 AM

omg Zutto... sounds incredible. reminds me a bit of 'Wishing,' which has been a favorite of mine recently.

BlackSilence 16th December 2014 06:13 AM

^lol yeah like i was totally expecting his voice to come next xD i think it's the arrangements.

Tom Punks 16th December 2014 06:14 AM

Do any of these songs even have melodies?????????? lol

My thoughts...

Zutto... is probably my favorite. It's nothing to be excited about at all, but it's decent enough for a song she's done 3000 times. It starts off totally BALLAD 2 and then goes off in some weird direction because the melody, like most of the melodies on this single, is drunk driving blindfolded.

Last minute is a hot mess. Did they even try to mix the backing vocals in??? It reminds me of count down and that song is a hot mess. I don't think it's horrible, just... not really that worthy of existing. I guess the same goes for Zutto... though.

Walk is so dramatic wow lol. Definitely the worst composition of the single, so this must be the TK song??? I can't even find the melody, I'm done trying.

There's nothing really awful here but honestly everything is SO boring and safe and overall the melodies and compositions are just confused and bland. Like I can't even really tell what emotion she's trying to convey in these songs anymore... lol

TheRainbow 16th December 2014 06:14 AM

I love hearing the breaths in between the words in Last minute. It definitely makes it more emotional.

Aderianu 16th December 2014 06:18 AM

Zutto... (short ver.)


Walk (short ver.)


Last minute (short ver.)


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