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Linoa62 22nd November 2018 12:48 AM

Jolin has been filming the 1st MV for the past few days ! Today was the 3rd day of shooting.

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Not totally related to Jolin, but if you liked Gentlewomen:


Cheer Chen, the singer who wrote the song, is releasing her new album 沙發海 Sofa Sea on December 11th. Just in case you might be interested.



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And 幸福路上 On Happiness Road won the Best Animation Feature award at the 55th Golden Horse Awards in Taipei (its theme song of the same name was performed by Jolin and released last year).
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I almost forgot !
Another pic from album cover shooting: http://www.jolinjenerationgallery.co...925&fullsize=1

Linoa62 25th November 2018 06:08 PM

Jolin's new album is called UGLY BEAUTY ! Release date December 26th.
This title has been confirmed by Jolin on her official Instagram account.

Marcelo 25th November 2018 07:23 PM

Yaaay, closer to new material!

cosmicfirefly 26th November 2018 01:11 AM

I like it, and now I can look forward to the release date!

mi|kshake 26th November 2018 04:02 AM

Yay, it's nice to have a release date during the Xmas hols!

JackieRos 27th November 2018 04:30 AM

I will definitely buy this album!
I’m so excited!!

Xianghua 27th November 2018 08:59 AM

Jolin posted the UGLY BEAUTY cover on her Instagram in parts:

http://i63.tinypic.com/qohifs.jpg

Linoa62 27th November 2018 02:32 PM

2 pics have been revealed:


Quote:

“Face yourself honestly at 100% and you will eventually receive love and sincerity.”
“Music is my centripetal force. Follow it and you can find me.”

Jolin keeps asking questions in this album, exploring her own heart, she hugs her own dark and ugly face.
“Emotion has been labeled as ugly, but is that true? This time, I want to open all the ugliness behind the perfect surface. Spying on the emotions that I have tried my best to bury. Terror, truth and fragile stories. Ugly beauty, perfection is not equal to all.”

Jolin tried a new creative mode to write music. Besides Taipei, she went to Bangkok and Stockholm, mobilizing almost 100 musicians.
After experiencing a week with musicians from all over the world, she participated in the creation of six songs in one go: “Working with different creative camps, gives me lots of motivation, we can talk about music creation together, use different language to express what you want, in addition to being very enjoyable, it was pretty fun, the work should make everyone feel as much as I feel.”

In recent years, Jolin, who is interested in psychology, explored her inner world and herself through the book of Jung, a psychologist. Jolin said: “If I was not at 100% before, I would blame myself. I would think I was “not worth mentioning”. The UGLY face for me is part of an emotion. When you start to face it, the feedback you get is very good, more love and empathy.”

In order to match the theme of the 11 new songs of the new album, she created 11 sets of UGLY BEAUTY styles, 11 scenes and 11 different characters. She said: “Split personality, but it is very cool.”

Jolin spent NT$5,000,000 (143 051 € or USD$162,037) for the first MV shooting, Sandy Lam was shooting in the same location (Arrow Studio in Taipei).
They closed the door of their respective studios to avoid song leaks.
This MV shooting lasted 3 days: Jolin worked hard, merely took breaks, and could sleep less than 3 hours a day.
Her staff’s strong support gave her a fighting spirit.

In addition, Jolin’s new album UGLY BEAUTY pre-orders will start on December 5th (physical and digital version). Pre-order version is limited to 10,000 copies.
The edition has 4 different covers (randomly shipped) and comes with a 200-page hardcover photobook.
UGLY BEAUTY will be released on December 26th.

真理之口 The mouth of truth
Creative & Marketing Director by Jimi Chou
Art Director: Zhong Lin & Yii Ooi
Image & Art Director: Jimi Chou
Photographer: Zhong Lin
Album Stylists: Yii Ooi
Make Up: Yali
Hair Stylist: Joey (Hair Culture )
Art Design: Well Lee

tokyoxjapanxfan 27th November 2018 03:00 PM

Beautiful!
It’s really intriguing to look at.

It’s nice to see artists use their breaks between releases to think and really take effort in what they’ll release next.

Corvina 27th November 2018 06:08 PM

I don't really like the two pics we have yet, but with a 200 pages photobook I'm sure there will be some better stuff included.
I do really the concept.
Though labeling emotions generally as ugly only works in Asia, I suppose.

People on Baidu are calling her out for plagiarizing Kyary Pamyu Pamyu with those lips...

Linoa62 27th November 2018 06:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corvina (Post 3291148)
I don't really like the two pics we have yet, but with a 200 pages photobook I'm sure there will be some better stuff included.
I do really the concept.
Though labeling emotions generally as ugly only works in Asia, I suppose.

People on Baidu are calling her out for plagiarizing Kyary Pamyu Pamyu with those lips...

I was just wondering what the plagiarism accusations would be about this time around :laugh

EDIT (new articles just popped out about this big mouth): the lips have been created by Chinese designer Shuting Qiu who graduated from the Royal Academy of Art in Antwerp.
http://www.shutingqiu.com/
The "mouth of truth" of Jolin's cover symbolizes the many words you want to say which can't come out. The "fragile eyes" mean that Jolin understands our mood, because she used to be like this as well.
When she first debuted, Jolin Tsai had been maliciously attacked by netizens with the title of "sausage mouth" because of her lips. However, Jolin was not affected. Instead, she gradually made her lips become a feature. Now the album cover is about the mouth. It seems to be responding to her past.

Corvina 27th November 2018 06:47 PM

Well, it is indeed pretty similar even down to the "art style", at least it uses the same idea. But I'd just call it inspiration, the style itself is different and it's hard to be original nowadays anyway.
They also called out Kana Nishino's new best albums plagiarizing a remix album of Kylie Minogue and that's the same case. Not a big deal imo, especially if the artwork is simple like in both cases. People can have the same ideas.
Intentionally doing the same is plagiarism.

Linoa62 27th November 2018 07:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Corvina (Post 3291150)
Well, it is indeed pretty similar even down to the "art style", at least it uses the same idea. But I'd just call it inspiration, the style itself is different and it's hard to be original nowadays anyway.
They also called out Kana Nishino's new best albums plagiarizing a remix album of Kylie Minogue and that's the same case. Not a big deal imo, especially if the artwork is simple like in both cases. People can have the same ideas.
Intentionally doing the same is plagiarism.

I totally agree :yes

thinkingoutloud89 27th November 2018 09:09 PM

I don't see the similarity. I mean, i know what they refer to but it wasn't the first thing in my mind (even more because this concept is more "dark"). Kyarys already was a play on that potato-toy anyways.

ladyluthien 28th November 2018 12:20 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linoa62 (Post 3291149)
I was just wondering what the plagiarism accusations would be about this time around :laugh

EDIT (new articles just popped out about this big mouth): the lips have been created by Chinese designer Shuting Qiu who graduated from the Royal Academy of Art in Antwerp.
http://www.shutingqiu.com/
The "mouth of truth" of Jolin's cover symbolizes the many words you want to say which can't come out. The "fragile eyes" mean that Jolin understands our mood, because she used to be like this as well.
When she first debuted, Jolin Tsai had been maliciously attacked by netizens with the title of "sausage mouth" because of her lips. However, Jolin was not affected. Instead, she gradually made her lips become a feature. Now the album cover is about the mouth. It seems to be responding to her past.

Sausage mouth??? That is the craziest thing I have ever heard, she has such beautiful lips!
They also look like normal lips to me, just a bit more voluptuous than most.

Baco__ 28th November 2018 07:06 AM

Well, Jplin has already been accused of plagiarize a handful of artists including Ayumi, Madonna and Gaga for the most bizarre of the reasons (like when people said she was plagiarizing Ayumi for the cover of butterfly VS next level for the colors, iirc lmao)


I loved the pics and the inspiration behind it. I want one of those versions T.T

Xianghua 28th November 2018 07:53 AM

There was a whole website about Jolin copying Ayu. I remember when Greek Girl by the Wishing Well was released (this form i think?) accused the MV of plagiarizing the STEP you video. I was one of the people that started out not liking Jolin because of the "plagiarizing" until I realized that was stupid and now I love her :heart.

So ironically I became a fan because of the accusations, lol.

Baco__ 29th November 2018 05:44 AM

I love this song and damn are the mvs so similar? I love step up and Greek girl by the wishing pond (?) never rang a bell to plagiarizing lmao

Xianghua 29th November 2018 08:29 AM

I think people were only saying that because Jolin portrayed 4 different girls in different outfits. It was released just a few days after STEP you, too. But that's where the similarities ended.

Linoa62 1st December 2018 09:33 PM

12/4 UGLY BEAUTY press conference
12/5 UGLY BEAUTY pre-orders start (physical + digital)
12/21 Release of the title song
12/26 UGLY BEAUTY release (physical + digital)

Jolin performed Butterflies in my stomach, I'm not yours, Bravo lover and PLAY at the 2018 ASIAN FASHION AWARDS in Taipei today.
At 1:48:35.

minkAYuko 4th December 2018 12:01 PM

We have a preview!!


cosmicfirefly 4th December 2018 12:26 PM

I just saw this earlier! I'm so excited for this album! Even if I end up not liking it (which I doubt), the teaser is so weird and intriguing it's got me really looking forward to it. I wonder if the music used is an indication of the styles on the album, or if it's completely different. Some parts kind of remind me of the Beast song/PV. So will she release a music video on the 5th? Not the album itself right?

Linoa62 4th December 2018 01:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmicfirefly (Post 3291618)
I just saw this earlier! I'm so excited for this album! Even if I end up not liking it (which I doubt), the teaser is so weird and intriguing it's got me really looking forward to it. I wonder if the music used is an indication of the styles on the album, or if it's completely different. Some parts kind of remind me of the Beast song/PV. So will she release a music video on the 5th? Not the album itself right?

Title song MV will be revealed on December 21st along with the song, December 5th is the day when pre-orders will start !

Marcelo 4th December 2018 02:38 PM

I'm interested of pre-ordering the album, any links for that yet? I'm not part of her fc or such things like that though :)

Linoa62 4th December 2018 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Marcelo (Post 3291622)
I'm interested of pre-ordering the album, any links for that yet? I'm not part of her fc or such things like that though :)

Her fanclubs can't make group orders this time anyway since pre-order version is limited to 10,000 copies. People can't buy more than 2 online since stock is limited.

Links:
http://www.5music.com.tw/CDList-C.asp?cdno=439495678546
https://www.books.com.tw/products/0020209504
https://www.yesasia.com/global/ugly-...0-en/info.html

Digital and physical pre-orders will start at midnight on December 5th Taiwan time.

4 covers shipped randomly:
https://i.ibb.co/NKZK8GM/006-EJv-Odl...31h7225nn4.jpg https://i.ibb.co/Db5QM9k/006-EJv-Odl...31h52231kx.jpg https://i.ibb.co/q1FT5Q0/006-EJv-Odl...31h52231kx.jpg https://i.ibb.co/pJ84Yv9/006-EJv-Odl...31h52234qp.jpghttps://i.ibb.co/2g1p69Q/20181203-ob98.jpg
Even people who will buy Jolin's album in stores won't be able to choose because the "real" cover will be hidden (under the big lips one I guess).
The 200-page photobook-diary contains 132 pictures. There are 11 sets of pics, one for each song from the album. Jolin describes them as "paper MVs".

UGLY BEAUTY concept description, I tried my best for this translation, please be kind :P
Spoiler:
12/5 Open Pre-order

Weird Beauty Hardcover Edition
Luxury cloth box +200 pages hardcover photobook-diary
4 colors, shipped randomly

It’s not strange, it’s beautiful.
20 years of energy explosion for the end of the year !
Asian pop queen Jolin Tsai latest album UGLY BEAUTY
Breaking the norm of beauty standard
Show tolerance towards the good and evil of this world

2018.12.26 Weird Beauty global release

Jolin's most honest !
"I thought that if it was not done at 100%, I was nothing."

Jolin's most experimental ! Experiment with a variety of different styles, loyal to music intuition, will destroy her own new songs and perfect them again.

Following "呸 PLAY" in 2014, which was a hot topic worldwide and created a classic model of Chinese pop music, Asian pop star Jolin Tsai's new album "UGLY BEAUTY" will be released in December!
The previous album explored various social issues from her own point of view.
This time, the new work returns to the inner level.
From the constant self-questioning and self-exploration, Jolin finds out that she is facing and embracing her dark and ugly face. The feedback is beautiful ! Jolin explores the "state of mind" and "desire" of human beings through the "feelings" and "outlook" of the theme "UGLY BEAUTY", breaking the dichotomy between the beauty and ugliness of this world and redefining it!

Jolin, who has been interested in psychology for the past two years, began to dig into the inner world and explore herself through the book of Dr. Jung, psychiatrist.
Jolin said: "In the past, if I was not doing something 100%, I would blame myself a lot, and think I was someone who was not worth mentioning."
And in this searching process, Jolin unexpectedly discovered that she always thought it was important to want to test things 100%, to prove herself, "I can", and always neglected her inner feminine power and forgot how to love herself ; through this digging process, the theme of "UGLY BEAUTY" was born for the new album. Jolin said: "The UGLY face for me is part of an emotion. When you start to face it, the feedback you get is very good, more love and empathy, you are able to understand yourself and the decisions you make, it is not easy to criticize yourself and criticize others!" During the birth of the new album, Jolin knew herself through continuous discussion, album production has undergone many times the process of "destroy and perfect". This new album is introducing Jolin’s journey of "knowing herself", "feelings" and "outlook". This is the most "honest" album of Jolin's career !

Why is the album named [UGLY BEAUTY]?
What is called UGLY BEAUTY, in fact, does not refer only to beauty and ugliness of appearance, but also to the two poles of inner psychological level: good and evil / good and bad / crying and laughing / happiness and sadness / darkness and light / fragility and strength / correct and incorrect ...., and what we call "evil", refers to those emotional traits that we often dislike: jealousy, anger, inferiority, vulnerability, dissatisfaction, etc. Because they know that they don't fit the ideal aesthetic, they don't look at it in the dark room, but because they deliberately ignore them for a long time, they will always commit crimes in a variety of different ways, so they self-harm themselves, are inexplicably frustrated, negative, aggressive, angry, conceited, bullying, despising others, etc., what JOLIN wants to express is: only open your heart, to know your inner dark side, to identify it, when it is transformed into various appearances in daily life, you can identify its archetype, and slowly become able to not be swallowed up by these negative forces and learn to get along with them, understand their appearance and necessity. And about empathy, it is to about understanding what is called "evil". The next time you see it in others, you can understand each other for the same reason, maybe compare, and not be hurt !

Jolin's most creative! Participate in the studio in the creation

4 years of production from Taipei to Bangkok and Stockholm

Jolin smashed the way she was making albums in the past, and set up a music writing camp with a new creative mode. She personally participated in the collective creation with musicians and completed the songs of the new album "UGLY BEAUTY". Jolin personally participated in the creation of the collective "bubble" studio. In addition to going to Bangkok, Taipei and even Stockholm, musicians of the music writing camps from these cities collided and cooperated to mobilize nearly 100 transnational musicians and experienced the interesting process of brainstorming with musicians from different regions in the studio for a week, which not only inspired Jolin, but also made her creative power break out. She has participated in the creation of six songs of the new album in one breath. We'll not only hear Jolin's first attempt at creation in the new album "UGLY BEAUTY", but we'll also hear "Creativity" and "Jolin's Most Creative" album! Jolin said: "In the process of free creation, I explored the sound that moved me, and cooperated with different creative camps, it gave me lots of motivation, doing music discussions together, using different language to express what you want. In addition to being very enjoyable and fun, this work should make everyone feel what I feel!"

The new album brings together innovative works from all over the world, and diverse content of the theme "UGLY BEAUTY". The composition of the new album is "Experimental", its style is different compared to past albums. Jolin's instinct of "loyalty to music" is bound to bring more impact and hearing to the Chinese pop music scene! Jolin, who is brave enough to accept the challenge, said: "I just want to try!" During the production of the album, Jolin likes to ask questions and is very curious and aware of the power and influence of women. In this original new album she wanted to explore "what is a woman". Invested in the process, she found herself to be the best "experimental subject". Then she began to dig out and explore her inner world, she found out that "emotion" was the key point affecting herself and others. She often asks herself "what kind of woman I am". Jolin said: "All along I felt that I was lacking something concerning the role of women. Although everyone looks at me like a princess, I always feel that my heart is a man! This kind of conflict is like a whirlpool, so I can't help but want to study. "

Pre-order design "The mouth of truth" Ugly Beauty who had the final say?

Fashion circle popular photographer Zhong Lin
One of the ten most influential stylists of the new era Yii

Personality split to create Jolin's 11 strange beauties

In order to fit with the theme of the eleven songs of the new album, she sent a special invitation to fashion circle popular photographer ZHONG LIN and famous stylist Yii who was once named by Gucci and selected by the global fashion industry as one of the top ten influential figures of the new era, to create 11 sets of strange beauty styles for "UGLY BEAUTY". The pre-order version has been announced, Jolin is wearing the exaggerated "Mouth of Truth" red-lip jewelry, with her hands in a strange position and an innocent look, making the whole picture very impactful, it also echoes the theme of the album, to break the dichotomy between the beauty and ugliness of this world.

This picture has been chosen to be the main one for the album because JOLIN wanted to use various [expressions] to reach and talk with the audience. This is also her understanding of her for the past six years. In 2012, she filmed [I] MV, she looked at herself removing her makeup in through the mirror. She had tears in her heart, and later she realized that she never cared for herself. In the past, she was too concerned about what others said. She did so many things just to get approval from others, but now she is looking at the mirror every time. She can find herself more in her eyes, and remind herself not to live in someone else's mouth. The mouth represents the many words you want to say which can't come out, but now JOLIN wants to communicate through her eyes and tell everyone, "I can understand our feelings !"
This sultry "Mouth of Truth" is a work created by Shuting Qiu, a Chinese rookie designer who graduated from the Royal Academy of Art in Antwerp. The eye-catching orange cake dress with the mouth of truth comes from the work of the cutting-edge designer SENSEN LII. He is not only a student of the Royal Academy of Art in Antwerp, but also the winner of VFILES RUNWAY 10 in New York Fashion Week this year. Jolin challenged herself for two consecutive days, and more than 24 hours of non-stop shooting, under the lens requirements of photographer ZHONG LIN who pays attention to the atmosphere and improvisation, in a short time they shuttled through 11 scenes and 11 characters, Jolin said: "Had to split personalities fast, but it was very cool!" Jolin's new vision of "weird" and "beauty" is bound to cause fans' commotion.

Limited hardcover edition 10,000 copies
4 covers 200-page deluxe photobook diary

12/5 start pre-order

Play has been released 4 years ago, this time she's returning to the Chinese music scene and is bringing a new album [UGLY BEAUTY]. Jolin Tsai seems to break once again her own pattern, trying to challenge the negative emotions that Chinese music has rarely touched in the past and the necessary theme of evil, JOLIN once again is advocating to accept different people through music, and is striving to commit to more love, and is letting the outside world look forward to this new work, what is the strange effect of Chinese music ?!
JOLIN latest album [UGLY BEAUTY] Weird Beauty Edition pre-orders will start on December 5th in stores.
This hardcover edition is limited to 10,000 copies and is sold in 4 different colors. It comes with a deluxe cloth box and a 200-page hardcover photobook diary. She spared no efforts so that fans of "sound" and "color" can feel the heart from music to vision. Jolin, who likes to write a diary, is also looking forward to conveying the concept of "sharing the heart" to the fans. She's looking forward to the fans' secrets, feelings and stories about "UGLY BEAUTY" in this diary!

koumori 4th December 2018 10:52 PM

I'm in love with this concept already. Hoping for a solid album again.

thinkingoutloud89 4th December 2018 11:01 PM

I only want that black cover. waiting for the repackage.

Linoa62 5th December 2018 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by thinkingoutloud89 (Post 3291642)
I only want that black cover. waiting for the repackage.

These 4 covers are the diary covers by the way, and the box cover is the picture featured on every online store.

Booklet and CD will most likely be part of the photobook/diary, like the photobook from pre-order version MUSE of Love.

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Title song has been written by Jolin, some fans were wondering if it was the music snippet featured in the teaser, but it's not. This snippet has been written exclusively for the album teaser IMO.
Ah, and one of the tracks from the album has explicit lyrics according to iTunes !

ladyluthien 5th December 2018 12:32 AM

I am really looking forward to this album! I'll probably only purchase digitally, but I do love the picture of her on the black cover.
I admire the hard work Jolin puts into each album.

mi|kshake 5th December 2018 03:27 AM

Looking forward to the new album! Think I'll purchase the album digitally too, just so I can listen to it over the Xmas hols.

Linoa62 5th December 2018 07:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ladyluthien (Post 3291648)
I am really looking forward to this album! I'll probably only purchase digitally, but I do love the picture of her on the black cover.
I admire the hard work Jolin puts into each album.

Quote:

Originally Posted by mi|kshake (Post 3291653)
Looking forward to the new album! Think I'll purchase the album digitally too, just so I can listen to it over the Xmas hols.

It's now available worldwide for pre-order on iTunes if you're interested !


Pre-order version is already sold out on online stores, even on YesAsia.
Some sites were sold out within minutes. Some even crashed. I managed to get a copy, it took me 20 minutes to order on 5music, with lots of patience because the site was very very very slow.
Online stores were restricting orders to 1 or 2 copies per person. Quite hard for Asian fanclubs (Singapore, China, Malaysia) which make group orders for their members.

Some fans who weren't able to order went on Sony Taiwan's FB today to express their anger, and ask for a reprint.
Actually Jolin already answered that question yesterday at the press conference: this is such a deluxe version that it's very expensive to produce, that's why there are only 10,000 copies. She told fans to buy maybe the regular version if they want a physical copy of the album.

Digital pre-orders also had an awesome start on QQ, China's biggest digital music store.
She became the fastest female artist from Hong Kong and Taiwan on QQ music to be certified Gold, Double Gold and Triple Gold with 750,000 yuan (=37,500 copies sold). She's expected to reach Platinum today (50,000 copies) !

ladyluthien 6th December 2018 09:10 AM

Wow! That is amazing news!
I was able to preorder on iTunes.

Linoa62 9th December 2018 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ladyluthien (Post 3291779)
Wow! That is amazing news!
I was able to preorder on iTunes.

Did you have any problem with your order ? I noticed 2 days ago that they removed UGLY BEAUTY preorder from iTunes...

A "top hits" playlist has been added by Jolin's account on Spotify on December 5th (start of pre-orders for UGLY BEAUTY):
https://open.spotify.com/user/jolint...Sp2X9N8ghdiNPg

English titles just in case:
Quote:

01. Rewind
02. PLAY
03. Pretence
04. Say I Love You
05. The Great Artist
06. Sky
07. Missing you
08. I'm not yours feat. Namie Amuro
09. The Third Person and I
10. Sun Will Never Set
11. Compromise
12. We're All Different, Yet The Same
13. It's love
14. How Can You Not Even Speak Clearly
15. Be you for a day
16. The smell of lemongrass
17. Single Public Threat
18. Medusa
19. Dancing Diva
20. Overlooking purposely
21. Agent J
22. The Prologue
23. Heartbreaking day
24. Stand Up
25. J-Game
26. Repeat Note
27. A Wonder in Madrid
28. Take immediate action
29. The Choice I Wanted
30. I Love, I Embrace
31. I
32. Fantasy
33. Nothing left to say
34. Wandering Poet
35. Love in the Shape of a Heart
36. Dr Jolin
37. Mr Q
38. Nice Guy
39. Alone
40. FEAR-FREE
41. Mosaic
42. Honey Trap
43. Butterfly
44. Bravo lover
45. Priceless

ladyluthien 9th December 2018 09:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Linoa62 (Post 3292011)
Did you have any problem with your order ? I noticed 2 days ago that they removed UGLY BEAUTY preorder from iTunes...

I just went and checked and it's been removed from the JP iTunes Store too. Hmmmm.

Linoa62 12th December 2018 09:24 PM

UGLY BEAUTY full tracklist has been revealed thanks to an ISRC database !
Note: these are the official English titles, which means that some songs might have Chinese titles too in the final tracklist.

Quote:

01. Necessary Evil – 3:48
02. Womxnly – 3:11
03. Ugly Beauty – 3:02
04. KARMA – 3:06
05. Lady In Red – 3:14
06. Sweet Guilty Pleasure – 3:27
07. Romance – 4:41
08. Vulnerability – 5:01
09. Hubby – 2:52
10. Life Sucks – 3:02
11. Shadow Self – 3:41

Total length: 39:05

Xianghua 13th December 2018 12:35 AM

I'm looking forward to Life Sucks lol.

cosmicfirefly 13th December 2018 04:56 AM

Hubby and Life Sucks seem so different from the other titles lol It would be great if we got previews.

Linoa62 14th December 2018 08:14 PM

Preview of regular version's photoshoot
http://www.jolinjenerationgallery.co...php?album=1140

The album is based on the concept of turning the dark side of the heart into a positive force.
Pre-order version was about the fragile side of the past, regular version is about emphasizing the existence of negative emotions, and the fact thay they are not necessarily bad for you.

Title song is called 怪美的 Ugly Beauty and will be released on December 21st.
Lyrics are by Wu Qing Feng from Sodagreen, and music is by Jolin and Starr Chen.

KLJames 19th December 2018 11:05 AM

jolin posted on her FB said the new album title track 怪美的 mv premiere will postpone from 21st to 26th Dec (same day with new album release).

Linoa62 19th December 2018 11:07 PM

Castle 15th Anniversary Crystal Vinyl to be released on December 26th !
http://www.5music.com.tw/CDList-C.asp?cdno=439495678768
https://www.yesasia.com/global/castl...0-en/info.html

The song featured in UGLY BEAUTY's teaser is Necessary Evil by the way.

Linoa62 20th December 2018 09:19 PM

Jolin's title song: https://www.miusiq.net/single-post/j...-beauty-single

UGLY BEAUTY regular version is now up for pre-order !
Its design is Pandora's box. On 5music with shipping fees (to France, in my case), price is like 23€.

5music: http://www.5music.com.tw/CDList-C.asp?cdno=439495678805
YesAsia: coming soon.

Regular version concept
Spoiler:
Getting strength from acknowledging fragility, Jolin’s evolution to a Fighter, and also a Lover.
UGLY BEAUTY 怪美珍藏版 Collector edition.

When you have enough courage to explore the darkness, you will find the infinite power of your own light.
The first cool and handsome black and white cover since her debut !

“No matter how high the aim we pursue is, as long as we want to get rid of the shackles of perfectionism, the mentality must be changed from “I worry about what everyone will think” to “I am good enough.” The change begins with overcoming inferiority, and self-acceptance.

In order to accept ourselves, our background, our beliefs, and our imperfections, we must be able to appreciate ourselves, our weak points and our flaws.
We must be more tolerant of ourselves and each other, and talk to ourselves with the tone of our loved ones.
And this time, for the new album, Jolin wants to talk to her audience through her eyes; the fan’s long-awaited [UGLY BEAUTY Collector Edition] is finally exposed, this time Jolin has boldly chosen the first black and white cover since her debut.She chose this group of dark pictures, because it gives her a strong and confident feeling. She is like a fearless Fighter, but she is also a Lover, no matter what the outside world is. Is chaos a pile of mud, is it dirty? She is still willing to be a fighter. She is also a lover and will lead everyone to courageously fight these negative energies!

For the Collector edition, Jolin has invited Jiang Minshi, the most popular photographer in Taipei fashion magazines, and Tanglai & FORMZ, Hong Kong’s hottest styling team, to work together in order to create the most avant-garde UGLY BEAUTY aesthetic!
In order to create a doomsday battlefield, Jiang Minshi set the scene in the setting sun, the world fell into a desert environment before the darkness, Jolin has an eyebrow-free smoky makeup, she’s wearing the British avant-garde designer Gareth Pugh’s blazer with shorts and long leather boots, standing in the middle of the fire circle, she symbolizes the rebirth after the fire!
he album’s inner page also shows outfits by the latest fashion designers from Europe and America, including the winner of the first “Elisabeth II British Design Award”. UK’s new designer Richard Quinn’s eponymous brand show with this season’s illusionary retro and 80’s decadent style once again became the focus of Marc Jacobs !

Album designer Yan Bojun, after listening to the whole album UGLY BEAUTY’s and concept, brought the idea of a [Pandora’s Box] (see picture), because in this album Jolin wants to explore the bright and dark side of human nature. This Greek myth is the birth of the first woman in the human world. It is very close to the negativism that Jolin’s new album wants to explore. Pandora opened the box because of curiosity. Unleashing the negative effects of sin and disaster, this is also the first origin of human original sin, but the moral of this story is to tell people the importance of embracing hope, because the only thing left in the box is “hope.” This is also very similar to the good and evil discussed in Jolin’s new album “UGLY BEAUTY”. No matter how many disasters and tests, darkness and pain, there is hope and light in the end!
The inner design of the Collector edition is like the concept of opening a box, opening one layer at a time, from darkness to light, seeing Jolin with different faces, just like every woman has a black queen and a white queen in her heart. They fight each other, but they may also be two indispensable sides !


MV promo pictures and concept
http://www.jolinjenerationgallery.co...php?album=1143
Quote:

Muh Chen from Grass Jelly directed 怪美的 Ugly Beauty MV.
Jolin returns to the inner level and reviews the “dark history” of her 20 years of career (rumors, struggles, fragility, contradictions).

Thanks to director Muh Chen and humorous shooting techniques, Jolin Tsai recalls the “dark history” that has been published for 20 years, showing how she can now look at her past with honesty. The source of these ideas comes from the Internet memes and fans. She said: “I hope I’ve been able to show my past struggles, I went crazy once, the MV is showing with humor the process of my awakening.”

In order to present the reconciliation between “Current Jolin Tsai” and “Jolin Tsai from the Past”, she broke her personal MV record and specially spent NT$15 million (424 872,47€ or $USD487,487.85) to create a realistic scene.
The director specially tailored 4 scenes and 8 characters for her, including “Judge and prisoner, “chef and sponger”, “nurse and patient”, with the atmosphere of”self-abuse” and “self-depreciation”, presenting a “great court of justice”, a “Chinese-style restaurant” where she wants to eat but has been prevented from drinking water and eating food, and the “freak beauty” that was madly pursuing perfect posture but was sent to the “Crazy Psychiatric Hospital and so on.

3 days and 3 nights of shooting, once again it sets a record, of the longest shooting days since her debut, because of the many characters and scenes, the set is like a war.
In order to be sympathetic to the hard-working staff on set, Jolin Tsai has rented a dining car intimately to provide 24-hour hot food service and drinks to help everyone. She invited a professional dance teacher who once choreographed for Britney Spears and Pink, who helped Jolin to arrange “the ugly beauty dance”. In addition to the complicated dance steps, she had to cooperate with the director to play multiple roles. Jolin Tsai laughed and said: “This MV was a lot of physical work!”

怪美的 Ugly Beauty lyrics excerpt: “You can’t see my beauty, you are blind, you praise my appearance, but you spit on me behind my back, the world of beauty, who has the guts to speak absolutely about it”.

Marcelo 21st December 2018 04:28 AM

Such an interesting song! Can't wait for lyrics translation and the MV!

minkAYuko 21st December 2018 09:42 AM

Lyrics Video

cosmicfirefly 21st December 2018 10:15 AM

I was not expecting the lyrics video to be released, completely took me off guard lol I definitely have to listen to it a few more times because there was so much going on between the visuals and audio that I couldn't process it all in one go. Between this and the teaser the songs seem to be going for a very 'chaotic' sound, I can't wait to hear the rest of the album.

Does anyone know the lyrics translation? And is there an image anywhere of the Pandora edition of the album? The box concept looks really cool, but since in the past she's released multiple versions of albums, like with lives and MVs, I'm wondering if I should wait a while to order.

Corvina 21st December 2018 01:03 PM

Ugly Beauty is...interesting.
Idk yet if I like yet. The rap part at the end is awesome!
And the MV looks nice from the pics as well.

@cosmicfirefly
I'd wait for more infos and pics of the regular version.
But even then there's always a chance of getting another version afterwards with great content.
I own Myself three times, because of that, haha.
But worth it, it's my favourite album by her.

Linoa62 21st December 2018 03:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmicfirefly (Post 3292608)
I was not expecting the lyrics video to be released, completely took me off guard lol I definitely have to listen to it a few more times because there was so much going on between the visuals and audio that I couldn't process it all in one go. Between this and the teaser the songs seem to be going for a very 'chaotic' sound, I can't wait to hear the rest of the album.

Does anyone know the lyrics translation? And is there an image anywhere of the Pandora edition of the album? The box concept looks really cool, but since in the past she's released multiple versions of albums, like with lives and MVs, I'm wondering if I should wait a while to order.

Translation
Quote:

A drooling evil accompanied me as I matured.
[I] grew in the midst of rottenness, [fed by] societal nutrition.
Pit scars of the past have allowed me to stand firm.
Those who are so terribly ugly judge and choose who are the most beautiful.
Oh, I laugh to the point of crying.

What standard is this? In such a hurry to decide upon survival of the fittest.
Love me. Hate me. It is not me.
There are some parts of the external me that come from the inner me.

*Listening to whomever say what's wrong and what's right,
Say what's beautiful and what's ugly;
If [you] ask me, I look and I say:
I'm an ugly beauty.

Unable to see my beauty, it is you who's blind.
[You] appear to compliment [me] and yet [you] turn around and spit.
[In] a world of aesthetics, who has the gall to speak in such absolutes?
The real me, the fake me, [my] self; look at the me of today.
Which me do [you] want?

Repeat *

Who'll come and give me a push? Onto the next one.
If a person shoulders too much moral burden along the way, it'll make them pant.
Let others hurt, think, speak; if it has no relation to [you] then don't worry about it.
[If you] interact with others in a manner that is too mild and indirect, [your] soul will be pulled this way and that way, caught in a dilemma.
Positive energy and negative energy—eat them all up.
The beautiful and the ugly—they all have their own necessity of existing.
Loving and hating depends upon your own preferences.
[I] reject your hypocritical embrace.
If [you] want to live a life of great fame and influence, [you] must respond to the evil within [your] heart.

Who says what's wrong and what's right,
Say what's beautiful and what's ugly?
If [you] ask me, I say that I'm an ugly beauty.

Source: renn@onehallyu
We'll most likely get a picture of Pandora's box on the day of the release...

cosmicfirefly 21st December 2018 10:59 PM

Thanks! And yeah I keep forgetting release is only a few days away lol

Linoa62 23rd December 2018 01:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cosmicfirefly (Post 3292641)
Thanks! And yeah I keep forgetting release is only a few days away lol

I can't wait to be honest :luv2

10 lucky fans have been able to listen today to 5 songs from UGLY BEAUTY:
Quote:

惡之必要 Necessary Evil
Very depressing song. It's about the inner dark side and intends to tell the reason why a girl becomes "evil".

玫瑰少年 Womxnly (lyrics by Jolin and Ashin)
Jolin said that she hopes to use this song to let everyone discover and learn to respect people who are different from us.

如果我沒有傷口 Vulnerability
A love song/ballad never heard in Jolin's discography. It's about arming yourself in love and accept yourself.

腦公 Hubby
A very lively song, similar to You Gotta Know. Cute pop-rock song.

甜秘密 Sweet Guilty Pleasure
EDM. It's a straightforward sex song, no innuendos. Pastry is also used as a metaphor for sex. Jolin values every part of the body, so she couldn’t ignore the “sex” part. “How long have you not looked at the mirror, have you touched your body, and found out where you like to be touched?” “Everyone feels desire, it’s not unusual, it’s not shameful, I’m almost 40 years-old !”
EDIT:
By the way, I wonder if Jolin will release a repackage this time. Here's what she said yesterday at the UGLY BEAUTY event:
Quote:

Jolin also revealed that she didn’t want to release a physical version for this album. Sony Music Taiwan advised her to do so, by telling her that she was still very beautiful and could still sell physical CDs.

Jolin stated several times this past year that she couldn’t see the appeal of CDs anymore, she doesn’t even have herself a CD player at home.
I want to say thank you to Sony, otherwise we wouldn't even have had any physical release this time !!!!

KLJames 24th December 2018 12:25 PM

lol i love this (from her ig)

Linoa62 24th December 2018 02:19 PM

^
It's from pre-order version's photobook.

KLJames 25th December 2018 08:20 PM

怪美的 mv teaser (16s)
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E1oeJVsFlEs
mv premiere @ Dec 26th 4pm (taiwan time)


Edit: new album 'Ugly Beauty' already OUT in most country!
buy online >> https://jolin.lnk.to/UglyBeauty

freedreamer 25th December 2018 10:29 PM

this album is amazing!!! Omg it sounds so full and polished!

minkAYuko 25th December 2018 10:51 PM

The first song is SO HOT! I'm currently listening to the rest of the album! on spotify!

Marcelo 25th December 2018 11:46 PM

Listening to it as we speak. Halfway, so far sooooo good! Loving KARMA and Necessary Evil :luv2
Edit. My top 5: 1.Karma 2.Vulnerability 3.Necessary Evil 4.Hubby 5.Shadow Self. All in all, amazing body of work!

Corvina 25th December 2018 11:58 PM

First spin through and I love Necessary Evil!
With the rest I don't know yet.
To be honest the album reminds me of Rihanna - a similar direction she took with her last album.

CeReSu 26th December 2018 03:31 AM

For now I really love Lady in red and Sweet guilty pleasure!
Don't listen to the rest yet

Cahz- 26th December 2018 05:50 AM

Definitely stronger as a whole than Play. My favorites are the slow tracks, specially number 7.

ahtka-chan 26th December 2018 08:18 AM

No love for Womxnly? So far, it's the best in my opinion <3

freedreamer 26th December 2018 08:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cahz- (Post 3292867)
Definitely stronger as a whole than Play. My favorites are the slow tracks, specially number 7.

Im Chinese and I can say that in the Cpop market, melodies like these saturate the market BUT BUT BUT Im super super amazed at the arrangements of these pieces and how just with great production, all these standard melody lines become elevated into really beautiful songs!

Im super impressed by this and the whole album overall. I wasnt a fan of Ugly Beauty but now listening to the whole album I can see its place

abestfah 26th December 2018 09:57 AM

My most favorite is Ugly Beauty and no others outstanding tracks for me. It is sad that it may be the least favorite by her for me (doesn't count Universal Era) . From many recent tracks she has released, I know they imply a bit about the aspect of this album and I can say this direction is not my type. Anyway, her works can always grow on me after I listen to it in repeat and together with MVs or lyrics translations, they always help. I hope so.

Linoa62 26th December 2018 01:11 PM

Full tracklist & credits !

01. 惡之必要 Necessary Evil
Lyrics: Li Weijing, Razor Chiang
Music: Razor Chiang, Starr Chen
Arranger: Razor Chiang

02. 玫瑰少年 Womxnly
Lyrics: Ashin, Chen Yiru, Jolin Tsai
Music: Razor Chiang, Jolin Tsai
Arranger: Razor Chiang

03. 怪美的 Ugly Beauty
Lyrics: Wu Qingfeng
Music: Rhys Fletcher, Stan Dubb, Starr Chen, Richard Craker, Jolin Tsai
Arranger: Starr Chen

04. 你也有今天 KARMA
Lyrics: Lan Xiaoxie
Music: Jolin Tsai, Hayley Michelle Aitken, Johan Gustafsson
Arranger: Starr Chen, AHa0

05. 紅衣女孩 Lady In Red
Lyrics: Yan Yunnong
Music: NESE, Wang Meilian, karencici, Jeff Bova
Arranger: Starr Chen, Razor Chiang

06. 甜秘密 Sweet Guilty Pleasure
Lyrics: A Di Zai
Music: Jolin Tsai, Johan Moraeus, Olof Lindskog, Hayley Michelle Aitken
Arranger: Morrison, Starr Chen

07. 愛的羅曼死 Romance
Lyrics: Wyman Wong
Music: Victor Lau
Arranger: Howe Chen

08. 如果我沒有傷口 Vulnerability
Lyrics: Liao Ting Yi
Music: Xiao Yu
Arranger: Howe Chen, Xiao Yu, Jian Daosen

09. 腦公 Hubby
Lyrics: Li Ruojun
Music: Jolin Tsai, Rhys Fletcher, Stan Dubb, Richard Craker, Alex Syps
Arranger: AHa0, Starr Chen

10. 消極掰 Life Sucks
Lyrics: Tom Wang
Music: Sam Fishman, Jazelle Rodriguez, Samuel Petersen
Arranger: Starr Chen, AHa0

11. 你睡醒再看 Shadow Self
Lyrics: Huang Ziyuan
Music: MCKY, Jolin Tsai, He Yusheng
Arranger: Huang Shao Yong

KLJames 26th December 2018 01:17 PM

怪美的 (Ugly Beauty) official mv:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wIHmPAvMBo

Corvina 26th December 2018 01:46 PM

Listened repeatedly to it this night while staying at my parent's.
It's a solid album.
Very cohesive body of work, but also quite repetetive and with some standard songs.
E.g. Womxnly and KARMA are really similar and don't change the pace much within their course, although nice songs. And the ballads Romance and Vulnerability are nothing new. Shadow Self is the better one.
I really like Ugly Beauty now.
My top 3 are Necessary Evil, Lady in Red and Life Sucks! :love

The PV is awesome!

Linoa62 26th December 2018 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KLJames (Post 3292880)
怪美的 (Ugly Beauty) official mv:
>> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wIHmPAvMBo

MV is really great, it's dealing with past issues:
  • In the trial court, the picture shown caused a bit of a "roar" online this year, netizens said that Jolin lost her muscles on her tummy and became fat ;
  • In the asylum, Jolin said once that her pursuit for perfection and criticism made her crazy ;
  • Old Jolin vs overweight Jolin, she used to have issues about her weight ;
  • Jolin cook vs Jolin customer: still about food issues obviously, she was obsessed with losing weight (I think she went as low as 38 kg several years ago).
  • and so on.

It's about how she used to be so hard on herself before, but now she has made peace with herself.

EDIT: MV has English, Japanese, and Korean subtitles by the way !

abestfah 26th December 2018 01:50 PM

Mv​ is fantastic, especially when see her in that costume for Acquiring talent tour. She is immortal ����������

freedreamer 26th December 2018 01:53 PM

This is SO SO FABULOUS. The colours are beautiful, she looks great, all the styling is so on point!

minkAYuko 26th December 2018 02:54 PM

Beautiful MV!! I love the The artist and PLAY references when the camera zooms in. Also I love how at the end she's her own judge and hugs herself like sayin' hey we cool! LOVED the MV

Linoa62 26th December 2018 10:37 PM

Pics from regular version
http://www.jolinjenerationgallery.co...php?album=1140

Pics from pre-order version
http://www.jolinjenerationgallery.co...php?album=1074

A Chinese-speaking user on YouTube shared the "Easter eggs" he found about Jolin's career in the MV, I made a post about it:
https://www.facebook.com/JolinJenera...42671385785785

KLJames 26th December 2018 10:45 PM

^ and the whip @ 04:21 is from play tour (honey trap performance), but actual one is slightly longer...

Linoa62 26th December 2018 10:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KLJames (Post 3292905)
^ and the whip @ 04:21 is from play tour (honey trap performance), but actual one is slightly longer...

Oh, you're right ! Thanks, I'll add it !

I can't wait, my orders are leaving Taiwan tomorrow !! I ordered both pre-order and regular versions.

cosmicfirefly 27th December 2018 11:49 AM

I'm really loving this album and the direction she went in with some of the songs. Necessary Evil is amazing, kind of haunting and gritty. I like Womxnly, but I wish she'd put that in the later half of the album since it doesn't really follow the tone of the beginning (musically I mean, since lyrics might idk). I'd have preferred Ugly Beauty, which is so catchy btw, as the second song. KARMA is a bit too similar to Womxnly for me, though again I like it, but it just doesn't stand out as much with the surrounding songs. Lady in Red and Sweet Guilty Pleasure are both A+ tracks in my book.

The structure of this album reminds me a bit of MUSE where the ballads and midtempos were in the later half. I don't mind that and I'm a sucker for ballads, so I love Romance, Vulnerability, and Shadow Self a lot. Though the first two are a bit similar and I had a hard time telling them apart on my first listen, they became more distinct with subsequent listens (I got slight Slave Ship vibes at a few points of Romance, but I could be imagining the similarity). Shadow Self is my favorite from the three and really feels like the counterpart to Necessary Evil.

Hubby is a fun track and the chorus of Life Sucks is really catchy, again I would've grouped them with Womxnly and KARMA, but it's not a huge deal. I wouldn't have minded more 'experimental' tracks instead of the usual, but I also love the usual, so either way I'm happy lol Overall I really love this album and it doesn't disappoint after her recent ones. I can't wait to read all the lyrics translations.

This was a long post, but I have to say the music video is great as well! It was so well done and looked amazing, and I liked how she included all the references to her career and criticisms. I'm really hoping she has a PV for most of the songs, but we'll see.

CeReSu 27th December 2018 01:42 PM

I'm searching for a download link for the album ?

I don't like spotify on my phone :/

Linoa62 27th December 2018 08:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CeReSu (Post 3292937)
I'm searching for a download link for the album ?

I don't like spotify on my phone :/

https://www.miusiq.net/single-post/j...y-beauty-album

It's on YouTube as well: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?lis..._JTv7qLr6wyOqU

KLJames 27th December 2018 08:14 PM

if u read the following, there are actually more past references in her Ugly Beauty mv. eg:
- the seafood restaurant name is from her birth name + original name (蔡宜凌+蔡依翎=宜翎).
- she wear similar costume that her dancers wear in past mv.
- the Butterfly era freak show poster is the one that ppl said she "copied" ayu cover.

minkAYuko 27th December 2018 08:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KLJames (Post 3292956)
if u read the following, there are actually more past references in her Ugly Beauty mv. eg:
- the seafood restaurant name is from her birth name + original name (蔡宜凌+蔡依翎=宜翎).
- she wear similar costume that her dancers wear in past mv.
- the Butterfly era freak show poster is the one that ppl said she "copied" ayu cover.

thank you!!, beautiful!! <3

freedreamer 27th December 2018 08:50 PM

what an amazing graphic! :)

mi|kshake 28th December 2018 12:20 AM

I totally forgot this has been released - gonna buy it tomorrow.

minkAYuko 28th December 2018 03:33 AM



This guy reacts to jolin's new MV and also gives his comments on the music and talks about the meaning behind the pv (the same stuff that was posted here before but in video) it's fun to watch.

Xianghua 28th December 2018 08:10 AM

My first listen of the album - my favorites are Karma, Sweet Guilty Pleasure, and Life Sucks.

Yeah, it is a cohesive album and I'll have to listen a few more times through. It has a sound to it that reflects the current music trends, but not in a way that is annoying which I've been finding a lot lately.

The beat to Ugly Beauty is growing on me! I enjoyed the MV!

Spiral 28th December 2018 02:42 PM

Any chance of a vinyl release in the future?

Linoa62 28th December 2018 03:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spiral (Post 3293004)
Any chance of a vinyl release in the future?

Of Ugly Beauty ?
Maybe... Looks like it's the latest trend in Taiwan. Instead of releasing a repackage, singers choose to release a LP version of their album nowadays (aMEI, Lala Hsu...).

maddy1111 30th December 2018 05:32 PM

hey guys, maybe it was discussed here earlier and I missed it, but just a short question.
Why Jolin left Warner and went to Sony again?
I would say she was doing pretty fine with Warners, and released at least three strong albums with them (Myself, Muse, Play), what was the reason she decided to leave them and sign with Sony once again?

Linoa62 30th December 2018 05:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by maddy1111 (Post 3293094)
hey guys, maybe it was discussed here earlier and I missed it, but just a short question.
Why Jolin left Warner and went to Sony again?
I would say she was doing pretty fine with Warners, and released at least three strong albums with them (Myself, Muse, Play), what was the reason she decided to leave them and sign with Sony once again?

Looks like her contract with Warner ended, so she had negotiations with major labels (Warner, Sony, Universal) which all wanted her for obvious reasons, and the most interesting contract in the end was Sony's.

Jolin also wanted more creative freedom, something she didn't necessarily have 100% with Warner (for instance, MUSE singles were supposed to be released in a way different order, but Warner's CEO changed what Jolin had decided at the last minute. Jolin was able to produce PLAY on her own but Warner still had the power to refuse it if they didn't like it). UGLY BEAUTY is the first release she was able to complete with total freedom.

KLJames 2nd January 2019 09:35 AM

怪美的 (Ugly Beauty) official Dance Ver mv:
>> https://www.facebook.com/hoo.jcai/po...81466995309461

Linoa62 6th January 2019 04:15 PM

Batch of news...

I got my copies, pictures in the links below !
Limited Edition: http://www.jolinjenerationgallery.co...php?album=1153
Collector Edition: http://www.jolinjenerationgallery.co...php?album=1152

Interview
Quote:

► About UGLY BEAUTY
"I'll give this album 100 points (/100) of course, because I committed myself fully to it, and in all honesty I have done my best".

► About feedbacks on UGLY BEAUTY
"I am actually only curious about feedbacks on 惡之必要 Necessary Evil, because I like it very much, I think it is very fresh, it is darker, and it is different from everyone’s impression of me [...]. I like to scare everyone (laughs)."

► About UGLY BEAUTY MVs
"I hope that every song will get a music video. Because that's the direction I'm going for when I'm searching for lyrics. When I see the lyrics, there is a picture in my mind, I will want to materialize them."

► About the new Tour
"I haven't thought of the script yet, but I believe that I should be able to play different things. It should be more visually stimulating than PLAY World Tour."
Next MV should be for Hubby, according to the booklet it was filmed by Jeff Chang (Agent J, FEAR FREE, Phony Queen MVs).

Jolin has been invited to the Taiwanese version of Kouhaku called Super Star - Red & White for the first time (created in 2010, teams are mixed), recording was yesterday (air date February 4th for CNY).
Host Huang Zikai congratulated her for celebrating her 20th anniversary, Jolin laughed and said "I debuted 2 years ago !*"

*She started working on UGLY BEAUTY 2 years ago.
Jolin is credited in UGLY BEAUTY's booklet as Chief Executive Producer, and as A&R Director by the way. She was "only" credited as A&R Director in PLAY's booklet.

All lyrics have been translated by jolinmuse@Twitter ! (except for Ugly Beauty's, it's the one from Bingo Bilingual posted with the MV)
Note: all the stories depicted in the lyrics have been experienced by Jolin. She said so herself and described this album as a "musical diary".

https://i.imgur.com/O2rkmiM.jpg
Necessary Evil
Lyrics by late novelist Li Weijing and Razor Chiang.
Inspired by the criticism Jolin received after her performance at the Golden Horse Awards, she was said to have performed classic Sweet As Honey by Teresa Teng out of tune. Jolin describes it as "a summary of UGLY BEAUTY".
Spoiler:
I don’t want to be perfect, I adore my appearance
I never dissed someone, never complained even if I was hurt and wronged
I used to think that Miss Perfect was my next stage
That I could achieve it one day as long as I grit my teeth
I receive love but it really is not unconditional
The room in my heart, it’s a dark space
Sometimes the evil arise, I have to shake its hand or kiss it
I don’t need to blame myself for being born with a negative side, I was actually born to study my darkness
I’m thirsty for love, outspoken, I chant in a low voice with tears, regardless positive or negative, good or evil, right or wrong
My evil, my sin, I never complain even if I’m being hurt because I’m training myself
The motivational positive energy which is popular in the society is utter bullshit
Inside the evil, secretly, with passion, my jealousy is embracing my inner weakness
People are not willing to let themselves suffer, they only want to get along with positive thinking

hook
*I say I’m evil, therefore I am.
I’ll go bad if it’s necessary
Bitch face is necessary, Fierce is necessary, Breakdown is necessary
Who is evil? Who is sinful?
Who is this bad girl? I’m cold that’s why I’m pretty.
Only me can clearly see the shape of my soul
I embrace myself who does not always achieve high marks
Not enough, not enough, not enough pain to walk away mercilessly

A bit of necessary evil, a bit of necessary bad
I throw the plate, get drunk and blackout
Keep talking, keep exaggerating, I’m full of tears
The bullying is cruel, the emotion is spreading, it’ll stop once I stop looking
Even pain doesn’t give me the power to linger
When I’m out of tune[1], I need to be self-deprecating[2]
I only wanna listen to your positive thinking
My strength and my weakness. All these years I didn’t know that overexert myself doesn’t mean I’m tough
I allow myself to like my imperfections, bringing them everywhere
Inside the evil, secretly, with passion, my jealousy is embracing my inner weakness
People are not willing to let themselves suffer, they only want to get along with positive thinking

*Repeat

T/N
[1]She was out of tune while performing at the Golden Horse Award (Taiwan Film Awards like Oscars).
[2] She admitted it immediately and mocks herself once the netizens started to tease her.


https://i.imgur.com/Jmel2lx.jpg
Womxnly
Lyrics by Jolin and Ashin from Mayday.
Inspired by the story of 15 year-old boy Yeh Yung-Chih, bullied (and allegedly killed) by classmates because he liked "girly stuff". His story was featured in one of the 4 videos of PLAY World Tour.

Spoiler:
Who inserted this soul into this body?
Who made this body become a prison that confines him/herself?
Whispers always appear in these troubled times
What kind of beauty will attract jealousy
The world is sinful, you’re not

*You were born as a human, you’re not guilty
You don’t need to be sorry
One day I will be your baby boy, and you gon’ be me
If we can’t stop the noise
Let me accompany you to stay silent
I wish I could hug you, till you’re really really being free

**Which roses don’t have the thorns?
The best revenge is to stay beautiful.
The most beautiful bloom is when you start fighting back!
Don’t let somebody else change yourself
You are him or her, it’s fine
There will be someone who loves you wholeheartedly

Try to imagine when ‘you switched to his body’
Sexuality, be careful what will hurt you
How many times of severe wounds, many times of cold-shoulders
Who will save you when you’re drowning, who will stay with you when you’re dreaming

Same shit happens every day.
Did the world change when you left?
So many sins caused by ignorance, the incident has passed but we must not move on
Never ever forget about Yung-Chih, the past will not go with the wind.

* Repeat
** Repeat

Rose boy is in my heart
Keep blooming with the vivid legend
We will never ever forget

You complain in silent
But a lot of truth has been confessed
Awaken numerous of genuine heart

T/N: The title in Mandarin is《玫瑰少年》direct translation means Rose Teenager. Rose Teenager or Rose Boy refers to Yeh Yung-chih. Jolin Tsai has shared a moving story during her PLAY Tour, this is the clip to learn more about his background, English subs available https://youtu.be/V_M9ZId2QAY
Here’s an article in English about Yung-chih: http://www.taipeitimes.com/News/lang.../18/2003632692


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Title song Ugly Beauty
Lyrics by Wu Qingfeng (Greeny from Sodagreen).
Inspired by criticism and bashing from media and netizens.
Spoiler:
Lurking evil has always been around me
I’ve grown up in dirt with little support from society
But those traumas nourished me and made me tough
Those comments condemning the ugly and idolizing the beautiful
Oh, they made me laugh to tears
Survival of the fittest? Who are you to judge? What’s the rush?
Self-loving, self-loathing, self-negating
My external self reflects my internal self
*Who are you to say Wrong or right?
Beautiful or ugly?
If you ask me, I would say
I’m insanely beautiful.
If you can’t see my beauty, you must be blind
Talking sweetly in front of me but saying foul things behind my back
Who dares to set the standards of beauty
True self, false self, my self; Who I wanna be today
It all depends on me*
Repeat *
Who can take me to the next level?
I’ve shouldered too many moral responsibilities. Living has become such a torture
Hurt me as you may. Defame me as you may. I don’t care
Being too polite to people can take a negative toll on the soul
Positive and negative energy, I’ve taken them all in
Beauty and ugliness are both necessary.
I don’t care if you love me or hate me
Save your disingenuous hugs
To thrive, we have to unleash our inner evil
Who are you to say Wrong or right?
Beautiful or ugly?
If you ask me, I would say I’m insanely beautiful.


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KARMA
Lyrics by Lan Xiaoxie.
Obviously about a previous relationship... I wonder who the song is targeting :roflmao
Spoiler:
Being treated as a “monthly disposable”[1] doll by my babe
All the lies make me like the lamb to be slaughtered
When I’m on the happiest cloud nine, you kicked me down
Do you enjoy?
My heart gets exploded by your intimate hug
Getting a ruthless slap by the most tender hand
Getting bitten by the most precious lips
You’re worth it, definitely worth it

*You finally understand what is karma
You finally can learn a lesson that you’ve taught me before
You eventually did not disappoint my “wishes” [2] to you
Finally, it serves you right [3]

See how the flowery butterfly[4] turns into the queen bee
See how the sheeps “anti” their predator
Check out how the teardrops reincarnated into the fist of King Kong
Aren’t these interesting? Interesting right?

* Repeat

You’re so good at letting me give up
These bits of heartache, the interest (debt) is not enough to pay
We’ll see, the humour of destiny
Still waters run deep

You finally can prove that karma exists
You finally can have the nightmares you gave to me
Please don’t disappoint my “wishes” to you
Wishing you have the same day every year[5]!
Have the same day every year!
Have the same day every year!

T/N
1. “月拋” means “monthly disposable”. It also sounds like “hook up/booty call” in the song. To spice things up and totally make sense, this line also can mean you treat me as a “hook up doll”.
2. “Wishes” here refer to curses.
3. Song title “你也有今天” direct translate means “you also have today”. I’ve translated it into it serves you right. In Mandarin, we will say “you also have today” when a bad thing has happened to a person (ex, enemies, the person you hate) and that they deserve.
4. Refers to the song Butterfly (花蝴蝶), which can be translated literally by Flower Butterfly.
5. “Have the same day every year” is the wishes we give to others when they are celebrating Birthday.


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Lady In Red
Lyrics by Yan Yunnong.
Inspired by Taiwanese urban legend "The Little Girl In Red":
Quote:

Taichung, March 1998 – After a funeral, a family was watching a trip video in which a weird-looking little girl in red was found tagging along the relative who passed away. But no one remembered seeing her anywhere during the trip. The footage was authenticated by professionals and caused disturbance among audience islandwide after it was exposed in the media. Strangely, the family member who provided the TV station with the video died in a car crash shortly.
Spoiler:
Why Mona Lisa’s hair isn’t red?
Why do you order coffee instead of red tea?
I like it red… I like it red…

Why wearing the white veil when making a solemn vow?
Why are you wearing a bow-tie instead of a red flower?
I like it red… I like it red…

*How to draw, how to draw a blue apple?
How to match, how to match the green ballet shoes?
How to swipe, how to swipe the black screen?
Hey, go to play the sand if you don’t understand what I’m sayin

**Has the red rose bloomed, bloomed?
Is the red candle lit up, lit up?
Is the red dress dirty, dirty?
Hey it’s your fault, why are you looking at me
I like it red… I like it red…

Who hates me? I’ll double up
Who loves me? I’ll repay
Love or Hate, I’ll entertain to the end
My red you won’t forget.

I’m fresh blood. I’m the flame. I represent danger.
I’m the tears, making your eyes red, the lady in red.
If my yearning left a will,
I could listen to the bias you have against red

Why the keys on the piano can only be black and white?
Why not throwing a red flag when you surrender?

I like it red…

* Repeat
** Repeat

Why is the Prince Charming always riding a white horse?
Why are you holding a beer instead of red berry sour shake?

I like it red…
U fucking dead

T/N
The title of Lady in Red is a reference to the urban legend “The Little Girl In Red” that inspired the horror film, ‘The Tag Along’.
There is a belief that if someone passed away wearing red, the soul will become a malicious evil spirit.


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Sweet Guilty Pleasure
Lyrics by A Di Zai.
1st Jolin song about sex.
Spoiler:
*Feel like missing you
I really want you
Although we act like we are courteous when we are together, yah

**Deep inside, it’s lightning and thunderstorm[1]
I know you can do it anytime anywhere

I enjoy every detail of you when you’re so ‘thirsty’[2]
I like your Adam’s apple when you secretly swallow your saliva

I’m not doubting
Don’t ask whether I’m giving you or not
Hold your horses, I’m not bored of playing it yet

***Expose the beast in you
You’re tamed by me
Listen to me and stand straight

****How mischievous are you
How naughty are you
You are seduced by me
Are you excited?

*****Give you some touchy touchy
You are enjoying it
Totally superb[3] sweet guilty pleasure[4]
Baby it’s a piece of cake[5]

*Repeat
**Repeat

Your expression and your action show that you can’t wait for it, it’s so funny
Your grunting and moaning make me take pity on you

You are distorted and morphed, it’s magical
I’m like the Medusa, hypnotising and controlling you

***Repeat
****Repeat
*****Repeat

Getting pushed around
Let me harness, let me control
Finally finally
I can’t resist anymore

****Repeat
*****Repeat

T/N
[1] I’ve translated “翻雲覆雨” into lightning and thunderstorm. This line means ‘We look calm but deep inside our blood is boiling, the heart is pumping ’
[2] Thirsty here refers to desire.
[3] I translated 高超 to superb, it also sounds like ‘climax/ orgasm’ in Mandarin.
[4] The titled is called Sweet guilty pleasure, the direct translate of《甜秘密》is ‘Sweet secret’.
[5] Cake here is a slang refers to sex according to Jolin Tsai. For example, the song “Cake by the Ocean by DNCE”
[6] The title is playing of words of a classical song called 《甜蜜蜜》(Sweet like honey, tian mi mi) by the legendary Teresa Teng. This is also the song that Jolin has performed out of tune in Golden Horse Awards in 2017. May refer to the notes in Necessary Evil.


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Romance
Lyrics by Wyman Wong.
These lyrics were considered as "surprising" for a ballad by fans and media.
Spoiler:
All corners of the world, we encountered each other, that’s unbelievable
Those cheesy Romance movie, in a flash, it’s already world-shaking
Romance is poisonous, everything is so sweet even when vomiting blood
Not like us, we’re matched together just because it’s convenient

Bring me along to leave this underworld [1], don’t care about wealth and fame, give birth to lots of angels
Or, let’s love vigorously under a rain of bullets, facing all kinds of condemning and critics
Looking at the word 「lovestruck」, it actually describes me and you
Back to reality, the most popular thing to say when in love actually is 「I give you a house 」

What I actually want is just a little bit of romance
With candlelight, rose, getting entangled sometimes and vows
Don’t have to be very high class, only hope that we can love until death
Anyway, I’m worthless
Actually what I want is just a standard romance
From getting in love to breakup, every scene is the climax
The gift wrapped in pink, when it’s opened, it turns out to be
The bloody Realism
The tears are not enough to write a poem

Let me do it one last time, laying on your chest, viewing the Cherry Blossom rain at night
Strings music is overwhelming, national day of mourning at the funeral of our love
I wanna tattoo the melancholy breakup with blood slowly
You just use your phone and simply send me 2 words only, that’s all

What I actually want is just a little bit of romance
With candlelight, rose, getting entangled sometimes and vows
Don’t have to be very high class, it’s better to love until death
Anyway, I’m very cheap

Maybe what I want actually is a hardcore romance
Violently sad and beautiful, until my heart is paralysed.
Too bad, the gift wrapped in pink, when it’s opened, turns out to be
Our most ordinary and mediocre moment
Where the hell is the romance [2]

T/N
[1] I’ve translated “江湖” into Underworld, it also means gang hood or society.
[2] This line “浪漫 已死在哪裡” literally means “where did the romance die?”
[3] The title, 《愛的羅曼死》 is tricky, it means “Love Romance” but there’s a playing of word. So it means “Bad Love Romance” or “Dead Love Romance”.


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Vulnerability
Lyrics by Liao Ting Yi.
It's about vulnerability in love.
Spoiler:
Couldn’t find a suitable stream
To store the pain falling from my eyes
When everyone is praising the strong one
It’ll be embarrassing if I said Oh~ I’m sad

Therefore, in love I start learning to stay silent
We secretly fight for the candy named ‘superiority’ [1]
No one is willing to show the weakness [2]

If I don’t have wounds, can it be considered
a nice accomplishment (Who will praise me?)
If I don’t have wounds I don’t have to concern whether my courage will leave me

Couldn’t find the best shot
To make myself look more decent in your eyes
When perfection is being magnified and closely watched
I will be useless Oh~ if I’m bandaged

Therefore, in love, slowly, I forgot to yell for help
Both of us were passing the buck, kicking the ball named ‘Lonely’, none of us is willing to stop

If I don’t have wounds, can it be considered
a nice accomplishment (Who will praise me?)
If I don’t have wounds, is it enough
Enough to be your rival

We are falling in love for what? We become partners for what?
Getting back the attachment[3] in the beginning, it’s us, we are not brave enough
If we want to love each other again, tear off the packaging is the answer [4]
Don’t escape from my ugly side, then only we can breathe freely

If I don’t have wound, I can’t feel that you actually care about me
(We are falling in love for what? We become partners for what? Getting back the attachment in the beginning, we can be more brave)

If I don’t have wound, how can we understand the most tender hug
(If we want to love each other again, tear off the packaging is the answer, love every state of me)

T/N
[1] This line means we all want to be more superior than others, not going to be the loser in love.
[2] This line means we are not compromising, give up something for each other.
[3] I’ve translated “依賴” to attachments. This line means let’s attach/rely on each other as we used to be.
[4] Packaging here refers to our camouflage, conceal, protection.
[5] The title 《如果我沒有傷口》, it literally means “If I don’t have wounds”, you can understand it as “If I don’t show/have my vulnerability”.


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Hubby
Lyrics by Li Ruojun.
Inspired by Jolin's love for Korean dramas and romantic movies. She explained that every time she wants to replace the main female character's face by hers.
Spoiler:
Jackpot! An unexpected good fortune
I’ll describe it as grand prize
I’m full once I wake up and see you
Oh Oh

Ermm la la, ermm ah ah ah
You misheard, I didn’t say anything
Do you want a piece of toast?
Sweet giggle

Wanna call you Hubby Hubby Hubby
Every minute every second Hubby Hubby Hubby
Accompany forever, Love me, Care about me, Hug me

My hubby is like firework
Light up brightly, make me ow~ ow~
I’m like this degenerate bug
Staring at you, making you ow~ ow~ Yes

My hubby opens my mind
Just like senior, reboot my system Oh
My hubby knows everything
But slightly doesn’t know about me
Maybe one day our lives are too free
Both of us has gaining weight
But please don’t forget to match our appetite[1]

Wanna call you Hubby Hubby Hubby
Every minute every second Hubby Hubby Hubby
Always look at me, ok?

My hubby is like firework
Light up brightly, make me ow~ ow~
I’m like this degenerate bug
Staring at you, applause for you Yes

My hubby opens my mind
Just like senior, reboot my system Oh
My hubby knows everything
But slightly doesn’t know about me

Wanna call you Hubby Hubby Hubby
Every minute every second Hubby Hubby Hubby
You can only look at me

My hubby is like firework
My hubby opens my mind
Just like senior, reboot my system Oh
My hubby knows everything
But slightly doesn’t know about me

Wooo You’re quite lucky
Wooo To be my hubby

T/N
[1] This line means “you are still my cup of tea (my appetite) even though both of us has gained weight.


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Life Sucks
Lyrics by Tom Wang.
Tom Wang is Jolin's agent. He previously wrote Mosaic lyrics, and The Third Person And I lyrics for her.
Spoiler:
Don’t wanna wake up, don’t wanna sleep
Don’t wanna change my undies, don’t wanna shower
I blame myself, Feel sorry for myself, I’m giving up my treatment
My system is abnormal, there’re noises jamming

*Li~fe~Suc~k~s
Ro~man~ti~c~s[1]
Nothing sadder than a withered heart[2]
All I have left is a pair of dead eyes

Love stuck, feeling alone, lonely and unbearable
Life stuck, bowing down for a small salary[3]
Having bad luck, there’re always some mean backstabbers around
Need some time to digest this dark humour

**Well said. Where did I fall down? That’s where I lay down
Passive is nice. Being passive a little while is nice. Life is like a roller coaster
Well said. If you’re unfortunate during this period[4], I’ll treat it like pooping
Passive is nice. Shake my hand with ‘passiveness’ then everything will be settled.

***Well Said. Where did I fall down? That’s where I lay down
Passive is nice. Being passive a little while is nice. Life is like a roller coaster
Well Said. If I am unfortunate during this period, I’ll treat it like pooping
Passive is nice. Embrace with ‘passiveness’ then parting away

I don’t wanna fake laugh, gloomy face is fine.
Wanna make trouble out of nothing, don’t wanna be polite
I’m seriously heartbroken, I’m so done with it
Hormones are abnormal, I’m losing it

* Repeat

Love stuck, feeling alone, lonely and unbearable
Life stuck, bowing down for a small salary
Having bad luck, there’re always some mean backstabbers around
Need to meditate and collect my thoughts, destiny is baffling

** Repeat
*** Repeat x2

Enough rest, time to wind up the clockwork
Enough of decadence, time to move my hands and legs
Enough of passiveness, goodbye to all the worries
While there is life, there is hope. Everything can be treated.

T/N
[1] This line also means romance is dead becuz of the playing of word.
[2] “悲哀莫大於心死” is a proverb, it means “The saddest thing is when you lose the hope or the will to fight.”
[3] Play of words with proverb “不為五斗米折腰”, it means “to not compromise one’s integrity just to earn a small salary in a dead-end job”
[4] This line means if your horoscope/zodiac/fortune telling are saying you are having a bad year, treat it like you are pooping. It will be fine after that.

The title of this song 《消極掰》literally means “Goodbye, Passive!”. The passive mentioned in the song is an attitude, means “do not take action but instead let things happen”. You can also understand this song as ‘Life sucks, just chill! After chilling, then move your ass to work.’
Bonus: This title sounds like a curse word in Taiwanese, “crazy pretty pony~pretty pony~pretty pony~pretty pony~pretty pony~”. So, be careful when you pronounce it. XD


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Shadow Self
Lyrics by Huang Ziyuan.
Inspired by Jungian psychology.
Spoiler:
My dear, have you slept?
I have something to say
Thank you for staying with me
You know what I’m short of

Actually, I always think about
being offensive[1] before thinking twice
Maybe it’s just me who’s stubborn,
not willing to give up

*I’m willing to surrender
Then talking to you nicely
Growing up is not easy like the fairy tale
Everything will be fine by casting a spell
Let’s remain back to back
I would know where are you when I turn back
It’s already late,
read the message when you’re awake

Wake me up when you get up
I want to adjust to the time difference
I’m working hard to follow in your footsteps,
don’t wanna be forgotten

Sleeping alone is not scary, [Excerpt 1: “The winner is…”] only scared of lonely
You’re strong only when your heart can love
without getting hurt[2] [Excerpt 2:… Cai Yi Lin]

* Repeat

Oh I gotta sleep
Oh You should sleep too

Please be my shadow self[3]
The more I watching it, the more I like it
Me in the mirror,
would you be willing to?

T/N
[1] I’ve translated “衝撞” to ‘being offensive’, it also means arguing, hitting something or offend someone. You can understand this line as “I have the urge to be rebellious without considering the outcomes”
[2] This line is inspired by Zhuang Zhou (Chinese philosopher, died 287 BC). My personal understanding about this line, if you already get prepared and trained yourself, nothing will kill you. When you broke up, you will be more rational and understanding and you will not get hurt by it easily. Thus, you can say you’re strong because you already not focusing on the pain, the pain cannot affect you.
[3] About Shadow Self in Jungian psychology, supposed to be our “dark side”: https://www.learning-mind.com/shadow-self/
[Excerpts]: You can hear a recording from 18th Golden Melody Award, when the host was introducing the winner for the Best Female Mandarin Singer category.
The title 《你睡醒再看》literally means, “Watch/Read it when you’re awake”.
This song is about Jolin and her subconscious mind, how she faced her nightmare and flaws. You can hear something like she is having a lucid dream in the beginning part. Finally, she let go all the stuff and sleep.

As mentioned, Jolin Tsai seems like she woke up from the nightmare in this song. In the subconscious mind, the nightmare seems to be the night when she won the title of Best Female Mandarin Singer during the 18th Golden Melody Award. She won the title by her ‘Dancing Diva’ album but she was getting teased by the netizens and media as “A gymnast won best female singer”. FYI, she is the first Dance-pop singer who has won the title and no more since then (Amei Chang sang some Dance-pop but she is not categorised as Dance-pop singer). Ballad is mainstream in Mandopop music scene and other genres like Dancepop, Hip-hop, Rock are considered non-mainstream. Golden Melody Awards (aka Mandopop Grammys) very emphasize on the meaning, depth, mechanics (production) and the concept of music production. Thus, Dancepop music which is typically tasteless, not meaningful is very hard to get recognition from the music industry. It’s like a burden for Jolin after winning this award when her works and singing skills are being doubted. These burdens turn out to be Jolin’s motivation (although, it sucks at the beginning cuz there are too much negative and it’s definitely not easy to breakthrough for every work), she is able to give us something new and experimental (a little gimmicky) for every album (Butterfly received lots of sales but not recognition). She doesn’t repeat the same style. During MUSE, she was nominated for Best Female Mandarin Singer but she didn’t win. During PLAY, she was not nominated for Best Female Mandarin Singer (but she won AOTY). These incidents might make her doubting herself if she is really a ‘singer’.

Meat Pao 6th January 2019 10:13 PM

I have never listened to Jolin Tsai in my life till I saw the album cover appear on my Spotify front page and got curious. I gotta say I'm really digging this album, not just musically but also the art direction and everything with the photoshoot! Call me out for being ignorant but my impression of C-pop was that the female singers especially tend to go for a "cutesy" direction (grew up in the 2000s seeing the likes of Cyndi Wang and SHE among others...) so seeing her concept and approach to this is really fascinating.

Now after reading the lyrics and backstories behind all of them I am now also wowed by the songwriting, what with the references to her / other people's past and with the wordplays. My favourite tracks are Necessary Evil, Wxmanly, Ugly Beauty, Karma and Life Sucks. I'm probably gonna end up getting a copy of this.

minkAYuko 7th January 2019 03:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Meat Pao (Post 3293643)
I have never listened to Jolin Tsai in my life till I saw the album cover appear on my Spotify front page and got curious. I gotta say I'm really digging this album, not just musically but also the art direction and everything with the photoshoot! Call me out for being ignorant but my impression of C-pop was that the female singers especially tend to go for a "cutesy" direction (grew up in the 2000s seeing the likes of Cyndi Wang and SHE among others...) so seeing her concept and approach to this is really fascinating.

Now after reading the lyrics and backstories behind all of them I am now also wowed by the songwriting, what with the references to her / other people's past and with the wordplays. My favourite tracks are Necessary Evil, Wxmanly, Ugly Beauty, Karma and Life Sucks. I'm probably gonna end up getting a copy of this.

Amazing!! Yes I get what you mean, I specially relate c-pop to ballads so I get your point. I recommend you listen to jolin's 3 past albums so you can see the progression in her music: Myself - Muse - PLAY you gonna find interesting songs in there (I hope) ^_^

cosmicfirefly 7th January 2019 06:33 AM

Thank you for posting the lyrics! I think my favorite is Life Sucks lol. I'm so glad she wants to have a music video for each song and I hope it happens. I would love to see what she does with Shadow Self and Lady in Red especially. I think Hubby will be a fun video, looking forward to it. The pictures are gorgeous!

minkAYuko 7th January 2019 06:56 AM

So what do we all thinkg about 惡之必要 Necessary Evil music/lyrics as she wants our opinions on the song?... I'm gonna

abestfah 7th January 2019 08:50 AM

Was she criticized about the performance?
I think it was flawless, cespecially when she sang On the road happiness and 追梦人, very touching!

Linoa62 7th January 2019 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Meat Pao (Post 3293643)
I have never listened to Jolin Tsai in my life till I saw the album cover appear on my Spotify front page and got curious. I gotta say I'm really digging this album, not just musically but also the art direction and everything with the photoshoot! Call me out for being ignorant but my impression of C-pop was that the female singers especially tend to go for a "cutesy" direction (grew up in the 2000s seeing the likes of Cyndi Wang and SHE among others...) so seeing her concept and approach to this is really fascinating.

Now after reading the lyrics and backstories behind all of them I am now also wowed by the songwriting, what with the references to her / other people's past and with the wordplays. My favourite tracks are Necessary Evil, Wxmanly, Ugly Beauty, Karma and Life Sucks. I'm probably gonna end up getting a copy of this.

Yes, a new listener !! :luv2
If you want to listen to other "not cute" C-Pop singers, may I suggest you for instance to listen to aMEI's latest albums, Faces of Paranoia, Story Thief, AMIT & AMIT 2 ?

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Originally Posted by abestfah (Post 3293670)
Was she criticized about the performance?
I think it was flawless, cespecially when she sang On the road happiness and 追梦人, very touching!

She was, but especially for her rendition of 甜蜜蜜 (Tian Mi Mi) Sweet As Honey, Teresa Teng's song.

Speaking of which, Jolin is shooting Sweet Guilty Pleasure MV at the moment.

Oh, and I realize I never posted the tracklist with Pinyin titles:
01. 惡之必要/E Zhi Bi Yao/Necessary Evil
02. 玫瑰少年/Mei Gui Shao Nian/Womxnly
03. 怪美的/Guai Mei De/Ugly Beauty
04. 你也有今天/Ni Ye You Jin Tian/KARMA
05. 紅衣女孩/Hong Yi Nu Hai/Lady In Red
06. 甜祕密/Tian Mi Mi/Sweet Guilty Pleasure
07. 愛的羅曼死/Ai De Luo Man Si/Romance
08. 如果我沒有傷口/Ru Guo Wo Mei You Shang Kou/Vulnerability
09. 腦公/Nao Gong/Hubby
10. 消極掰/Xiao Ji Bai/Life Sucks
11. 你睡醒再看/Ni Shui Xing Zai Kan/Shadow Self

ayu_ready? 11th January 2019 09:16 PM

I absolutely love the album, I think that it's better than PLAY or on the same level.
the MV is amazing and funny, I feel it was probably done by the same team, who did PLAY MV.

Linoa62 11th January 2019 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ayu_ready? (Post 3293874)
I absolutely love the album, I think that it's better than PLAY or on the same level.
the MV is amazing and funny, I feel it was probably done by the same team, who did PLAY MV.

It was ! Once again by Muh Chen from GrassJelly.

ALfromHELLSING 14th January 2019 02:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Meat Pao (Post 3293643)
I have never listened to Jolin Tsai in my life till I saw the album cover appear on my Spotify front page and got curious. I gotta say I'm really digging this album, not just musically but also the art direction and everything with the photoshoot! Call me out for being ignorant but my impression of C-pop was that the female singers especially tend to go for a "cutesy" direction (grew up in the 2000s seeing the likes of Cyndi Wang and SHE among others...) so seeing her concept and approach to this is really fascinating.

Same, I've only listened to her collabo with Namie before. The new album is solid, I like the majority of the tracks. I liked the MV for Ugly Beauty too, I wish they kept the bridge from the MV in the album version. Two of my friends who listened to Jolin before recommended me to listen to Muse, going to listen to it later.

cosmicfirefly 14th January 2019 03:10 AM

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Originally Posted by ALfromHELLSING (Post 3293972)
Same, I've only listened to her collabo with Namie before. The new album is solid, I like the majority of the tracks. I liked the MV for Ugly Beauty too, I wish they kept the bridge from the MV in the album version. Two of my friends who listened to Jolin before recommended me to listen to Muse, going to listen to it later.

MUSE is my favorite, it's amazing (the MVs too), though it's got more ballads I think. PLAY, Myself, and Agent J are also really great albums.

RikkuK 14th January 2019 07:49 AM

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Originally Posted by cosmicfirefly (Post 3293974)
MUSE is my favorite, it's amazing (the MVs too), though it's got more ballads I think. PLAY, Myself, and Agent J are also really great albums.

MUSE is when I first found Jolin!

Love the new song, plan to cover it xDDD

Linoa62 16th January 2019 01:48 AM

At the moment MVs are scheduled for:
  • 玫瑰少年 Womxnly
  • 你也有今天 KARMA (choreography scheduled, script is being written)
  • 甜祕密 Sweet Guilty Pleasure (already filmed)
  • 如果我沒有傷口 Vulnerability
  • 腦公 Hubby (already filmed)
  • 消極掰 Life Sucks
  • 惡之必要 Necessary Evil.

Nothing yet for 紅衣女孩 Lady In Red, 愛的羅曼死 Romance, and 你睡醒再看 Shadow Self…

2nd MV will be 甜祕密 Sweet Guilty Pleasure, 3rd one 腦公 Hubby !

cosmicfirefly 16th January 2019 08:45 AM

^^ I found her during MUSE too! Loved it so much I went back and listened to all her old material. I was super impressed with her dance moves, like the ribbon and pole dancing too.

^That's great to hear, but I really hope Lady in Red and Shadow Self get MVs (Romance too). Don't want it to be like Miss Trouble, which I was so excited for then it never happened lol But I'm too greedy when it comes to MVs, she's already doing a lot tbh

ladyluthien 16th January 2019 09:55 AM

I first discovered Jolin back when she released Dancing Diva. I can't believe that was nearly 13 years ago! :eek
The new album is great, it's fresh and it's entirely cohesive. I am really enjoying it.

Linoa62 16th January 2019 06:55 PM


Jolin posted this video this morning and explained the meaning of every song in the description.

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The order of the album's tracks is like a message in the brain all day. You get up in the morning, experience a bunch of desires, emotions, and finally you have to go dream, rest well, face yourself, and another day comes once again.

1 "Necessary Evil"
Evil is not just evil for me.
It's a lot of private emotions.
"Necessary Evil" is the prelude of the album.
It's a bit like a horror movie because I want to tell everyone that going into your inner world is actually so horrible.
I want you to go to your heart to dig your inner story.
Maybe it’s very dirty inside. There are a lot of things that you don’t want to let others know.
First of all, you must love yourself.
You must also admit that you have such emotions.
When you are willing to face them, it doesn't have to become the evil of your imagination.

2 "Womxnly"
I heard this rhythm when I was composing.
I really wanted to write about "the freedom of the body."
When the rhythm of freedom is in the music, our body is the most sacred.
This rhythm makes me feel that I have to respect my body's intuition.
And that I don’t have to live in the framework of society, I don't have to think that femininity must be bad or that I have to be masculine, it must be what you want to pursue.
Whether it’s male or female, it’s actually a gender identity. It doesn’t have an established framework.

3 "Ugly Beauty"
Ugly Beauty's entire album is about stories of emotion.
Something that happened to me or that I found out in my diary. I hope you can learn more about the "ugly beauty" after watching the MV.
In fact, I am like everyone else.
There will be a lot of uncertainty.
This is the life story that I stood up again from the mud.

4 "KARMA"
These lyrics have a feeling of revenge for women.
I think this topic is very interesting.
I believe that everyone will have a day with a fight in their mind with black angels.
Of course, if you really want to retaliate against that person, the best way is to live better than him.

5 "Lady In Red"
I really like red very much.
Red, it has its own kind of power.
Red is blood, passion is a wound.
It's the origin of life, it's something we can't lack.
When I was communicating with the producer, I said:
"I want a feeling of a ghost story."
Because when you want to walk into the muddiest place in your heart, it's actually a bit painful.
There is a feeling of a ghost that no one is going to save you from.

6 "Sweet Guilty Pleasure"
The most basic desires of mankind: sexual desire, appetite, any hope and wish.
In fact, it is reminding you to face it.
It's just like a dessert for me.
There is a little bit of guilt, but it is a very unforgettable feeling of happiness.
Everything has its two sides. See how you think about it.
In the arrangement, there is a deliberate intention to create that kind of emotions to be high and then to calm down and then high.
There is a blood pulsing drama tension.

7 "Romance"
Everyone in the face of love will inevitably fantasize about some romantic plots.
Everyone’s view of romance is not necessarily the same as in movies.
Maybe there is a little difference between TV life and the real life.
In the portrayal of the lyricist Wyman Wong, there is a different interpretation of the definition of romance.

8 "Vulnerability"
The lyrics are how I am in love. I used to be timid.
In feelings, we can often fall later.
I am even more reluctant to admit that I don’t want to show my most vulnerable side to the other side.
As the lyrics say, if I didn't have any wound, could it be considered a nice accomplishment ?
Sometimes we have to believe in the power of love.

9 "Hubby"
The most fanciful song in the album.
When I watch a drama, I often fall into pink bubble fantasy mode.
I think that I am so cute.
This is a fun activity.
I hope this song will one day be a wedding march for everyone.

10 "Life Sucks"
Ugly Beauty's entire album is a bit like a conversation with our brain.
We have a lot of thoughts coming in every day.
Sometimes they're negative, sometimes they're happy, sometimes they're irrelevant.
In fact, every day, you will encounter negative things that you have to fight against.
When you encounter bad things that ruins your mood, you will lose your willpower and your motivation.
But after all, you still have to face the impact of life on you.
We can only tell ourselves that these negative things will eventually leave us.

11 "Shadow Self"
This song is about dreams.
It's only you and yourself when you're asleep.
You will face a very naked dream.
I really believe in the words that the subconscious wants to tell you.
That is the most honest self. In the song, I hear a voice in my dream. It is also one of the subconscious dreams that record my own self-confidence.
I also encourage everyone to write down their dreams to analyze them.
Maybe it will tell you something different.


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