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truehappiness 6th March 2007 12:50 AM

Well, I think they'll definitely end up selling 1.5 million combined..

And perhaps even 2 million combined, as these are bests.
Perhaps Japan isn't into best fever any more after Koda and Ken :\

ImpactBreaker 6th March 2007 12:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1035019)
Believe it or not, TRF used to be super hot. lol

I'm kind of disappointed in Ayu's fans more than the sales.
I've grown to not give a crap about sales, but apparently a ton of people think she has to sell a million first week to be "worthy" :|

It's just that these sales just looks like they're gonna crawl miserably to even reach the 700,000 (if they do).

Sorry, but combining the sales to add both is quite unfair. Maybe the majority of fans are buying BOTH albums, so we can count both sales as 1 album, but not combine them. As if A BEST 2 has sold over 400,000 copies so far instead of 800,000.

DerrickRocks 6th March 2007 12:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ImpactBreaker (Post 1035013)
Horrible sales. Shameful too...for A BEST album :no

Hey lol at least we are being truthful right impact, and i get what J-nerd is saying too!! its a freaking BEST album. Hitoto Yo's album was freaking awesome and still charting i don't know the sales but dang it was explosive! there is no reason why fans should be worrying about Ayu's sales! There is no excuse really!! after all didnt you all say you have faith in her. And it is slightly over SECRET's sales!

ayu_fan929 6th March 2007 12:56 AM

I'm starting to wonder if it will reach 1 million (individually) since she has big drops in sales after the 1st week.

DerrickRocks: Hitoto Yo's BEST has sold ~650k so far.

DerrickRocks 6th March 2007 01:09 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayu_fan929 (Post 1035028)
I'm starting to wonder if it will reach 1 million (individually) since she has big drops in sales after the 1st week.

DerrickRocks: Hitoto Yo's BEST has sold ~650k so far.

it will hit a million! its Ayumi Hamasaki! if it doesn't oh well. She sold well but its not over yet, Ayu has work to do this year!

SunshineSlayer 6th March 2007 01:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayu_fan929 (Post 1035028)
I'm starting to wonder if it will reach 1 million (individually) since she has big drops in sales after the 1st week.

DerrickRocks: Hitoto Yo's BEST has sold ~650k so far.

Comparing Ayu's sales to that, Ayu's really not doing too badly. A big reason why Yo's album has been selling well is because a lot of people don't buy her original albums(as far as I know), whereas lots and lots of people buy Ayu's original albums therefore there is less need for them to buy a best album from her.

Ani_C 6th March 2007 01:31 AM

:D Take that everyone else!~ xDDD

mikewallace 6th March 2007 01:34 AM

Woah so they are already the highest selling albums for 2007 in one week? Thats pretty good! Go ayu!

bluegie 6th March 2007 01:34 AM

LOL I dunno what to say about the sales. As I said before it's not like combing two albums into one will = 800K. But it's good to see avex's strategy for "sucking up people's money" doing well this time :P.

emi♡ 6th March 2007 01:35 AM

What's so wrong with combining the sales?

Do you really expect everyone to go out and buy both? That's super expensive, especially when they already have all of the songs, and especially when Ayu isn't exactly at her peak anymore...

I think she's doing great.

rainday 6th March 2007 01:36 AM

Didn't someone mention that pre-order sales had already surpassed 1 mil? Are they not being taken into account here?

Ayumiko 6th March 2007 01:36 AM

I never expected high sales for these albums in the first place so I wasnt dissapointed at all. Some ppl had really high hopes...sales and chart position really means alot to them...but u gotta remember ayu has already released A best and A ballads (which it didnt reach 1 million in total)...this is not her first best...this is released after her peak...9 years in the industry and still able to sell almost half a million for each of the best albums in the first week which she released on the same day is very good already.

truehappiness 6th March 2007 01:39 AM

I personally think that as Ayu fans, we have a duty to totally disregard sales as a means of measuring "Ayu's amazingness."

They're just stupid numbers that are bound to go down..
I feel REALLY sorry for fans of the old school artists that barely sell 200k now.. and we're like: "AW, She sold 400k twice. That's not good enough for us!"

SunshineSlayer 6th March 2007 01:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1035069)
I personally think that as Ayu fans, we have a duty to totally disregard sales as a means of measuring "Ayu's amazingness."

They're just stupid numbers that are bound to go down..
I feel REALLY sorry for fans of the old school artists that barely sell 200k now.. and we're like: "AW, She sold 400k twice. That's not good enough for us!"

Yeah exactly. The TRF example you used is a really good one. Also look at Puffy's latest hits collection - I believe it sold even less than TRFs did.

evolution7931 6th March 2007 01:43 AM

Oh wow. Over 900 000 combined!! Yay! I think they'll both hit about a million each.

ayu_fan929 6th March 2007 01:43 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by emiko (Post 1035064)
Do you really expect everyone to go out and buy both? That's super expensive, especially when they already have all of the songs, and especially when Ayu isn't exactly at her peak anymore...

For the majority of people, I do. That's why the sales have been so close.

truehappiness 6th March 2007 01:47 AM

I was puzzled at that..

I'm sure that the sales will trail one another throughout the coming weeks :\



It's a bit insane if you think about it... she's sold quite possibly the most a CDL DVD has ever sold.. with this ;D

somethinglost 6th March 2007 03:10 AM

That's amazing!! Great news. :]

Uthipratuma 6th March 2007 03:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayu_fan929 (Post 1034855)
[b][u]

-1st time in 36.5 years that a female artist has occupied #1 and 2 in the album charts.
-TOP 2 highest 1st week album sales in the 2007 CALENDAR year.
-TOP 2 highest selling albums in the 2007 CALENDAR year.

**CALENDAR year DOES NOT EQUAL to the ORICON year.**

XD It's only March, somebody will come by and break that most likely. Come to think of it Ayu has never had a number 1 yearly album.

Raleigh 6th March 2007 03:28 AM

Both albums will get a million I bet. Otherwise avex will come up with some new edition for it to sell more.

somethinglost 6th March 2007 03:47 AM

Just as long as Ayu can beat the sales of 'Black Cherry', then I'm happy. :]

ayu_fan929 6th March 2007 03:51 AM

^Individually or combined?

Quote:

Originally Posted by Uthipratuma (Post 1035139)
Come to think of it Ayu has never had a number 1 yearly album.

You're right. Highest she's ever gotten was #2. And she got that for like 4 years straight I think. (2000-2003)

Calico 6th March 2007 04:17 AM

Well, I'm proud of her. =) After 10 years, she still manages to sell this much for (two) best albums? I'd be throwing a crazy party.

And that record for the 2 #1 albums is pretty cool!

s1012h 6th March 2007 04:35 AM

i at least want ayu to get number one for the oricon year
she definitely deserves at least one album on it after 9 years
even though it's a BEST album

Choyan 6th March 2007 04:36 AM

http://www.oricon.co.jp/news/rankmusic/42666/
WHITE: 475000 copies
BLACK: 470000 copies

and what does it say about Ayu beating Hikki's mum's record??
(I saw this initially @ ila posted by wincy)

stickyrice 6th March 2007 05:01 AM

so since ayu is the 1st time in 36.5 years, who was before her? does anyone know?

ayu_fan929 6th March 2007 05:25 AM

^1st time in 36.5 years that a female artist had a #1 and 2 weekly album on the same week?

waltz#2 6th March 2007 05:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1035069)
I personally think that as Ayu fans, we have a duty to totally disregard sales as a means of measuring "Ayu's amazingness."

They're just stupid numbers that are bound to go down..
I feel REALLY sorry for fans of the old school artists that barely sell 200k now.. and we're like: "AW, She sold 400k twice. That's not good enough for us!"

I agree. I bought both CDs and I love them. I would buy the CD-only versions too if I could afford it. I want her to sell lots and lots and be #1, but buying it and liking it; that should be enough. Anyone who doesn't buy it; their loss. :p

AmyRoseM 6th March 2007 05:38 AM

this is amazing!!! I knew SOME sort of good numbers would come into play SOMEWHERE along the way...

and what's the harm of combining the sales? The two separate albums are basically two installments of one album... so why not count them as one?

SpiceSquad! 6th March 2007 05:40 AM

GOOD! this much better than the indicator numbers.. In this case she manage to hit 1 mil.. congrat to AYU!!!!

AyuGAME 6th March 2007 05:48 AM

not bad...but i hope she get a better sales..hope next week she can sales about 200k for both of them. so it can hit a million sales

capsule 6th March 2007 06:42 AM

Good sales indeed. I hope A BEST 2 will keep this pattern for some weeks.

slowmoth 6th March 2007 06:53 AM

Not bad! :) A BALLADS sold 560,000 copies in its first week

WillofDusk 6th March 2007 06:57 AM

Yea
This mean A BEST 2 sold almost 1mi in 1 week
oricon did a good job terrifying Ayu's fan after all
XD
YAY !!!
GO AYU!!!

jasjasss 6th March 2007 08:28 AM

whieee

think of these best alums as A BEST 2 individually .. which sold 945 000
yay ! thats a loT !

~ayu-cake~ 6th March 2007 09:20 AM

When you think of the sales combined, it's like o___o wow.

Nu-NRG 6th March 2007 09:24 AM

hmm as I predicted...a best white is more favorable in Japan
since a majority fans loved her fun/happy/jumpy songs

freedreamer 6th March 2007 09:29 AM

haha i dunno what to feel now...
separately, i was hoping 500k for one...but together its really whoa...

i also hope she is top album of the year..but this is way too early to say...

LacusClyne 6th March 2007 09:40 AM

the sales are very good! both are so close to 500k!!!! let's hope that she will bea ble to hit a million with at least one of the version.

though i can't help thinking, if there's only one version, it would hit a million by next week

norain 6th March 2007 09:46 AM

Well, if Ayum can't beat Second Sessions, that'll be sad. She tried. =) Lets see if she can even hold her top position, Koda is releasing a third best, so yeah...exile. Erm...=) Go ayu.

truehappiness 6th March 2007 09:57 AM

Well, you have to remember;

In Koda's case, ~ss~ was released during her "peak popularity."

It'd be comparable to Ayu releasing A BEST and I am.. in 2001. Had Ayu had the immense popularity that she had then, I think she probably would have sold like 2 million first week easily for like, EACH of these..

dayumi 6th March 2007 10:03 AM

wow!!!! keep it up Ayuu!!! the sales are not bad..

LNany 6th March 2007 10:12 AM

Exact figures by Oricon:

*1 | A BEST 2 -WHITE- | 475,284
*2 | A BEST 2 -BLACK- | 470,057

gakkun 6th March 2007 11:19 AM

Why do Ayumi fans have this inferiority complex that their favourite artist's sales matters to them so much?

It's like they have to reassure themselves, 'she sells so well, I still have a reason to like her'. When she doesn't, they find all the reasons in the world to explain why her sales are dropping like no tomorrow. It's so amusing to watch.

CedriK 6th March 2007 11:19 AM

Divide sales for the first week by 2, then on the next week sales should be around 200k, and combined sales of the 3rd and 4th week and then A BEST 2 should reach 1 mil. each other, that's my theory.

Go Ayu !!

Sim' 6th March 2007 11:57 AM

Thanks *-*

immel 6th March 2007 12:11 PM

Looks like neither of the albums will reach a million.

Nice sales, but a bit lower than I had expected.

Partino 6th March 2007 12:12 PM

Thank god ... not as bad as I thought the sales will be. 470k for each album isn't that bad. And that was just the 1st week. I hope the sales will go much higher. 1.1 million for each shouldn't be so hard to achieve. well ... we'll see ... maybe Japan is going back to roots of the good old fashioned J-Pop and in that area no one can compete with ayu. Let's go get 'em girl. *gg*

Dark_hated 6th March 2007 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1035019)
Believe it or not, TRF used to be super hot. lol

I'm kind of disappointed in Ayu's fans more than the sales.
I've grown to not give a crap about sales, but apparently a ton of people think she has to sell a million first week to be "worthy" :|

No... I think that low sales means that avex will support her less (less than now... :tired ) and that because of that, releases will have poor quality... (look at Ami Suzuki for example :( )

DerrickRocks 6th March 2007 12:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by immel (Post 1035390)
Looks like neither of the albums will reach a million.

Nice sales, but a bit lower than I had expected.

alot of people are saying it isnt! and i know your a huge ayu fan!! ^.^ but dont give up yet! soon as this new tour starts the sales will rocket!

AyuGAME 6th March 2007 12:31 PM

its a little low for me too..i thought it can hit 800k for both of them in the first week...but lets see..i really hope it can hit million

immel 6th March 2007 12:40 PM

Well, basically any album selling lower than 550k in the first week will not reach a million.

truehappiness 6th March 2007 12:41 PM

What about Mika Nakashima? She sold around 480k first week and eventually got 1.08 million..

Best albums imo are exempt from that "550k" rule..

immel 6th March 2007 12:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1035423)
Best albums imo are exempt from that "550k" rule..

True. We'll just have to wait and see if the 2nd week drop follows the normal 70+% drop.

truehappiness 6th March 2007 12:49 PM

Oh yeah, same goes for Porno Graffiti's "BEST BLUE'S" [which was co-released with BEST RED'S..]

After a while, BLUE'S touched upon a million and RED'S was in the high 900k-range. [They debuted with sales of like 460 and 430k..]

..:Hot:Like:Wow:.. 6th March 2007 12:58 PM

That rule applies to the biggest artists.

ayuflareup! 6th March 2007 01:07 PM

I think ORICON didn't take into account the preorder sales and some of the other less prevalent cd shops in Japan~ Perhaps they should make an estimation of that as well. If those counts as well, A BEST 2 might reach almost to a MILLION~
But I believe that the 2nd week will have a big drop because people perhaps are saving money to buy koda's new album... BOUNCE & LOVERS. and as well as Mika's new album YES!

ayu_fan929 6th March 2007 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by norain (Post 1035339)
Well, if Ayum can't beat Second Sessions, that'll be sad. She tried. =) Lets see if she can even hold her top position, Koda is releasing a third best, so yeah...exile. Erm...=) Go ayu.

The 3rd best is a limited edition. And technically, she isn't holding the top spot (since it's only the Oricon year that counts).

The indicator total for yesterday was 12-13k for the albums. If she manages to average 12-13k for the rest of the week, she would sell ~150k for the 2nd week.
====
A BALLADS went from 561,127 => 129,241 (and it didn't even reach 1 million in the end)

truehappiness 6th March 2007 01:46 PM

I think A BALLADS had a problem with the covers..
Like, the Japanese people were like "HUH."

Eu-Kun 6th March 2007 01:57 PM

I hope black gets no.1 at the 2nd week :)

anyway lets hope it will sell 1,000,000 copies :P

AyuGAME 6th March 2007 01:58 PM

^i think the cover is ok..i have two poster of a ballad at my room wall...
about a million hit..lets pray the best for ayu..hope this album not follow the pattern like her original album that drop the sales for 70% in the second week

criminal 6th March 2007 03:16 PM

I have nothing to complain about sales-wise. Those numbers are great and I'm sure that in hindsight everyone will think so too since over 970,000 copies of one person's albums were sold in a week. That's almost a million.

Anyway, if this were a double-CD set, would Oricon combine the sales like Billboard does for double-CD sets lasting longer for 100 minutes? If so, there is nothing wrong with actually combining the sales.

Yukitora 6th March 2007 03:36 PM

^I don't think Oricon does that, as Ken Hirai's utabaka would very well probably be counted as selling 4 million copies...

ayujarl 6th March 2007 03:39 PM

GOGOGO, Ayu!!!
just ordered the black+white DVD jp version. this will +1 to the chart ;)

tinyppl 6th March 2007 07:33 PM

Woot. Great number. Glad it's selling well.

SunshineSlayer 6th March 2007 07:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kingofpop (Post 1035442)
That rule applies to the biggest artists.

Porno Graffiti is a big artist.

ayu_fan929 6th March 2007 08:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by criminal (Post 1035515)
Anyway, if this were a double-CD set, would Oricon combine the sales like Billboard does for double-CD sets lasting longer for 100 minutes? If so, there is nothing wrong with actually combining the sales.

What do you mean by "double CD set"? Like a 2CD + DVD kind of thing?

summersnow 6th March 2007 08:24 PM

Omedetou Ayu!! Great sales for first week!! =)

Zeke. 6th March 2007 10:53 PM

I JUST GOT MY COPIES TODAY! I WAS SO EXCITED! FINALLY I COULD LOOK AT THE COVERS, THE BOOKLET, VIEW THE ENTIRE TRACKLIST, LISTEN TO AND WATCH THE PV TO PART OF ME! I LOVE IT!

Impracticable 7th March 2007 12:22 AM

i got my CD of white today, i got Black yesterday!!

stardusties 7th March 2007 01:54 AM

this is frikkin sick.


go ayu

hopeorpain 7th March 2007 04:43 AM

Great sales :) keep it going Ayu

Choyan 7th March 2007 08:49 AM

I have a question,
Did Rody! make a mistake using the US calendar instead? XD
coz A BEST 2 debuted on 28th right?~ XD

truehappiness 7th March 2007 08:56 AM

The Oricon chart for 2/27 has all the new releases that are going to come out on 2/28..

Choyan 7th March 2007 09:10 AM

...oh o-O huh XD okay, I don't get how that works lol~

...

XD help, can someone ...sorta explain? I'm don't know too much about the Oricon calendar :/

truehappiness 7th March 2007 09:17 AM

Releases usually are sold a day earlier than their actual release date. [probably to make up for the end of the Oricon week being on like, Monday..]


Like, fairyland was sold on 8/2, but its official release date was 8/3..
This is how it's been for all Ayu releases except the end of the year weird ones that were releases at like, 12/27 when 1/1 was the date.. and so on..

oro77 7th March 2007 09:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1036119)
Releases usually are sold a day earlier than their actual release date. [probably to make up for the end of the Oricon week being on like, Monday..]


Like, fairyland was sold on 8/2, but its official release date was 8/3..
This is how it's been for all Ayu releases except the end of the year weird ones that were releases at like, 12/27 when 1/1 was the date.. and so on..

I guess 1/1 is day off.

truehappiness 7th March 2007 10:16 AM

No, 1/1 during the week that Oricon takes "off" I think..

So they release it before the New Year [when Oricon kind of stops for about two weeks..]

krishna 7th March 2007 11:16 AM

Indicator number today:
#1 EXILE 57992
#2 A BEST 2 -WHITE- 9940
#3 A BEST 2 -BLACK- 9505

..:Hot:Like:Wow:.. 7th March 2007 11:17 AM

Damn EXILE!!!

truehappiness 7th March 2007 11:20 AM

I expect around 100k this week. :O~

Choyan 7th March 2007 11:49 AM

personally, XD I'm not the much of a fan towards the 'song' "Evolution".

and thanks truehappiness :).

bluegie 7th March 2007 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1036140)
I expect around 100k this week. :O~

as long as the next five weeks' weekly sales are between 100K - 70K, I will be happy :P.

truehappiness 7th March 2007 12:03 PM

Yeah..

EXILE will probably sell around 200-300k with this. :O~

A-TeensFan 7th March 2007 12:06 PM

awesome!!!!!!!! congrat to AYu!!!!

CHAS_AYU 7th March 2007 12:19 PM

Hope A BEST 2 will be No. 1 & No. 2 again tomorrow.

ayu_fan929 7th March 2007 12:50 PM

With EXILE at close to 60,000, it most likely that A BEST 2 -BLACK- won't get that #1 position.

I predict ~140k this week.

flashraven 7th March 2007 01:10 PM

will A BEST 2 be released in singapore?..i've checked many times but they are not available in cd-stores:no

jasjasss 7th March 2007 01:28 PM

by looking at that
it looks like A BEST 2 going to sell around 130k copies each this week !

Raleigh 7th March 2007 01:49 PM

Yeah seems that A BEST 2 is not going to be as successful as avex predicted.

elepop 7th March 2007 01:53 PM

I hope she gets to be #1 again. I didn't know EXILE was still "popular".

ayuflareup! 7th March 2007 01:57 PM

why does avex has to scedule the release of albums of the same company (EXILE & AYU) so close to on another-/-!~~ they are not helping ayu-.-... they dont give time for ayu to hold on for like 2 weeks-./- Next week, KODA will be on the chart as well. AYu;s sales will be greatly affected by the tight album scedule~~~~~

ayu_fan929 7th March 2007 02:01 PM

^Well...avex has been promoting them a lot for the past 4 months...

dayumi 7th March 2007 02:08 PM

Awwwwwww, ayuu!!! i hope A BEST 2 will be no.1 & no.2 again!!!, I hope this album is sucessful.

I predict about 100k this week.

ruixiong89 7th March 2007 02:44 PM

Go A BEST! Go go go! With the hype over BEST albums, I'm sure she can get pass that million mark! Go Ayu go! I need to go Japan now and get like 10 A BEST 2s of both versions now haha!

Beyond the Sea 7th March 2007 03:57 PM

I thoguht it over. And technically Ayu did sell 800,000 albums in one week. That's pretty good.

iruvjapan 7th March 2007 04:09 PM

Yes!! She's gonna hit one million eventually!!

Raleigh 7th March 2007 04:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by j_nerd (Post 1036281)
I thoguht it over. And technically Ayu did sell 800,000 albums in one week. That's pretty good.

True but I bet avex was expecting to make much more profit. You know how they are always trying to milk their artists for all they are worth.

haruki 7th March 2007 05:00 PM

however, 1 million mark is for 2 albums... A Best 1 alone is already 4million+++

i wish the sales could be abit better. T__T

ComatoseBunnySnatcher 7th March 2007 05:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Choyan (Post 1036150)
personally, XD I'm not the much of a fan towards the 'song' "Evolution"


Me either. I rather WE WISH in A BEST 2


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