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njanjayrp 2nd September 2008 08:55 AM

She did sound good in GD but not really lip-sync good ^^

freedreamer 2nd September 2008 08:58 AM

Greatful Days sounds PERFECT!!!!!! omgg...i hope its real...
(bet some people are gonna source it out..)

B&G sounded quite..rough lol...

SunshineSlayer 2nd September 2008 09:26 AM

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Originally Posted by se7entheaven (Post 1614182)
^ wow
Greatful days almost sounds like lipsync
silky smooth voice ^^

I don't want to jump to conclusions, but I kind of suspect that. Won't know till I've seen the full performance though. But judging how she is jumping around and waving her arm like that (similar to what she was doing in Mirrorcle World), her voice should not be coming out as smooth as that - you should be able to hear some kind of variation.

MissElin_ 2nd September 2008 09:46 AM

Wow Greatful Days really sounded like perfection!! O.o Im soooo happy to hear that!! :heart Im also hoping it to be real. Its almost too good. But why not? She is good. ^^

Jwiz 2nd September 2008 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 1614301)
I don't want to jump to conclusions, but I kind of suspect that. Won't know till I've seen the full performance though. But judging how she is jumping around and waving her arm like that (similar to what she was doing in Mirrorcle World), her voice should not be coming out as smooth as that - you should be able to hear some kind of variation.

When the tv version is released on wowow all doubts will be cleared ;)

SunshineSlayer 2nd September 2008 09:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Jwiz (Post 1614323)
When the tv version is released on wowow all doubts will be cleared ;)

or confirmed. haha. :) But it may not even get resolved at all. Last years coverage was actually pretty minimal (only 3 songs)

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Originally Posted by MissElin_ (Post 1614320)
Wow Greatful Days really sounded like perfection!! O.o Im soooo happy to hear that!! :heart Im also hoping it to be real. Its almost too good. But why not? She is good. ^^

If this were 03-05 I would have no doubt that it is real. These days, I don't know. When every song other than this one sounds barely ok and then all of a sudden this one is perfect, people are naturally going to be suspicious.

Faiza 2nd September 2008 09:56 AM

Wow.. she sounded horrible during MW and Boys and Girls but perfect during Greatful Days

prussian blue 2nd September 2008 09:58 AM

^thats what i want to say...

but let us hear the full version first

Meat Pao 2nd September 2008 10:22 AM

Sorry if I'm being mean here, but I noticed that sometimes Ayu lip sync in her concerts taken from other concerts...

SunshineSlayer 2nd September 2008 10:29 AM

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Originally Posted by meatpao (Post 1614339)
Sorry if I'm being mean here, but I noticed that sometimes Ayu lip sync in her concerts taken from other concerts...

The concert dvds aren't good things to go by if you are looking for evidence of lip syncing since Avex "doctors" them before release. Although I do think there are some times when she lips syncs.

Melrose 2nd September 2008 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by meatpao (Post 1614339)
Sorry if I'm being mean here, but I noticed that sometimes Ayu lip sync in her concerts taken from other concerts...

Yea, but not a-nation.

She lip synched evolution at CDL06-07, AT07 and CDL07-08. She also lip synched STEP you and Ladies Night half/half for AT06 and CDL07-08. (Though I can't prove the latter.)

until that Day... from AT07 sounds VERY lip synched, but when you watch the documentary you hear that it's actually live when they show the perf at another concert (unedited). That whole concert has just been given "perfected" vocals for some stupid reason.

AT08 btw is 100% live from the news clip.

But Ayu sings like 95% of the time live, so...

Back on topic for A-Nation? :]

I don't really get the whole complaining about her vocals all the time lol. She still sings 50 times better than all the candidates from Idols.

njanjayrp 2nd September 2008 11:03 AM

People! have you ever heard the studio version of Grateful Days (plus the KU in hajimeyuKU does sound different and LIVE)?There is no reason to lip-sync an a-nation performance especially not a song such as this one. And if that's not enough, Ayu screwed up her live perfs. (when it comes to singing) too many times to care about this one, so there is no reason as the performance wasn't that tiring. And after the dumb comments about her lip-syncing Marionette I am pretty sure most of the people don't even listen properly and make false statements.

Linoa62 2nd September 2008 11:38 AM

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Jwiz 2nd September 2008 11:45 AM

^ Thanks alot!

4ever*ayu 2nd September 2008 12:50 PM

wow..thx Luna62 !
i usually convert all my videos to DivX...so appreciate it!

waterballoon 2nd September 2008 01:31 PM

Well, Greatful days sound nice from the clip, but we can't judge if she lip-synched or not just from that few seconds. I mean, with her forgetting lyrics, singing the wrong line sometimes, or going out of tune at times... I doubt she ever lip-synches.

Of course, with every DVD release that she has, it has been edited. I watched the HDTV and DVD versions of CDL 07-08 and I could hear that there was a marked difference in them.

And, if she lip-synched... I mean this short clip barely sounded like the Greatful days on a CD. It's only good because she sounded in-tune and quite stable. But it's definitely different from the CD version... or at least that's how my ears hear it.

MissElin_ 2nd September 2008 01:44 PM

Well actually. In CDL07-08 I smilply think (in the editing) that they took away more of Princess and Pecos voices that kind of overflowed Ayus voice in the tv-version. I mean, I was there and I didnt reflect on bad singing during the whole evening.

waterballoon 2nd September 2008 01:58 PM

^ Yeah. And they removed Peco's ANNOYING moaning of the male dancers' names when they were doing their solo in STEP you/Ladies Night!

heartplace83 2nd September 2008 02:06 PM

omg she looks like a crazy woman when performing mirrorcle world in that video O.o
but greatful days performance looks great~!

jiarongisme 2nd September 2008 02:17 PM

Greatful days sounds awesome! Well about the whole lip-syncing thing, I think that ayu is very good at changing her voice from always sing out of tune in those pop-rock songs (MW is a perfect example xD), to a kinda perfect sounding mellow song (Greatful days in this case). It's kinda normal if you've seen her past performances. It's highly impossible for her to lip-sync in this songs.. So yeah.

Oh yeah, IMO

truehappiness 2nd September 2008 02:54 PM

Well, my view of the whole thing is basically this:
MW -> she "yelled" for most of the portions of that song, so.. yeah. The beginning is kinda like, a talky portion, and the WOWOWWOWW YEAHYRHEYAHA is bound to sound weird.

Boys & Girls -> 2nd to last song, so.. she's probably like, yelling out the words as usual. And she just got off of that cart thingie.

Greatful days -> After Ayu is able to rest a bit after ASFXX, she's changed and starts a new set of songs with this. IMO, Greatful days is one of the easiest songs in her discography to sing.. much like STEP you, so it's possible she could just nail it because it's like.. a reaaaaaaaaaalllly easy song. And her voice is really clear during the GD segment before when she kinda yells the "R U HAVING FUN!?" or whatever..

freedreamer 2nd September 2008 03:35 PM

haiz...no everyone is doubting ayu's abilities...ok not exactly her abilities...but...u noe wad i mean...

its quite ironic...
when Ayu doesnt sing well live, we all hate it...
when she sounds perfect, we doubt it...

o well

waterballoon 2nd September 2008 04:14 PM

I don't think and am not going to believe that she'll ever lip synch. truehappiness is a point there: Greatful days really is one of her easiest songs to sing, or maybe as compared to Mirrorcle World.

~angel*ayumi~ 2nd September 2008 05:57 PM

Dunno if these pics were posted before^^


http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/1...4501al2.th.jpg http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/8...4501ph2.th.jpg http://img231.imageshack.us/img231/1...6001ke7.th.jpg

Ayumi27 2nd September 2008 06:03 PM

I love those pics

kouta 2nd September 2008 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1614572)
Well, my view of the whole thing is basically this:
MW -> she "yelled" for most of the portions of that song, so.. yeah. The beginning is kinda like, a talky portion, and the WOWOWWOWW YEAHYRHEYAHA is bound to sound weird.

Boys & Girls -> 2nd to last song, so.. she's probably like, yelling out the words as usual. And she just got off of that cart thingie.

Greatful days -> After Ayu is able to rest a bit after ASFXX, she's changed and starts a new set of songs with this. IMO, Greatful days is one of the easiest songs in her discography to sing.. much like STEP you, so it's possible she could just nail it because it's like.. a reaaaaaaaaaalllly easy song. And her voice is really clear during the GD segment before when she kinda yells the "R U HAVING FUN!?" or whatever..

I really agree with you.
You said all what I wanted to say, lol.

Kikaru 2nd September 2008 06:30 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1614572)
Well, my view of the whole thing is basically this:
MW -> she "yelled" for most of the portions of that song, so.. yeah. The beginning is kinda like, a talky portion, and the WOWOWWOWW YEAHYRHEYAHA is bound to sound weird.

Boys & Girls -> 2nd to last song, so.. she's probably like, yelling out the words as usual. And she just got off of that cart thingie.

Greatful days -> After Ayu is able to rest a bit after ASFXX, she's changed and starts a new set of songs with this. IMO, Greatful days is one of the easiest songs in her discography to sing.. much like STEP you, so it's possible she could just nail it because it's like.. a reaaaaaaaaaalllly easy song. And her voice is really clear during the GD segment before when she kinda yells the "R U HAVING FUN!?" or whatever..

I agree. I actually don't think Greatful Days sounds lip-synced, and I still think it sounds like she yelled through it, but it was just much more nasally than the previous two songs. Plus it's an incredibly easy song to sing. MW, IMO, is one of her harder songs.

maikaru 2nd September 2008 06:36 PM

*-*

Uuuaaa she sounds sooo amazing in Greatful Days..
I wish I could go this year. T T

I think she's so much energy in boys & girls... I think one of the best ones, even though she sounds screaming... ahaha.

She really looks like she recovered from everything that happened last year, and more. Like she has a new life, and new energy~

Even when watching the AT08 videos, she sounds so much energy!~~ especially evolution... and now greatful days and boys and girls... I can't wait for the broadcast.

I think it sounds odd, cause they have a straight recording into the broadcast, no reverb or echo. We are used to hearing that, so it's kinda weird.

MissElin_ 2nd September 2008 06:52 PM

Ooooh thanks for posting them!! ^^ I looove her orange outfit!

Lee_410 2nd September 2008 06:55 PM

Thank you!

maikaru 2nd September 2008 07:25 PM

She looks so different...
Like her face got bigger.
Not fatter, ahaha~
But like, her eyes look like they moved inside O_O;;

I think she looks kinda old in those pictures. -o-;
But I'm glad she has fun~

EDIT: And her HAIR COLOUR looks so orange. ahaha.

SunshineSlayer 2nd September 2008 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 1614358)
People! have you ever heard the studio version of Grateful Days (plus the KU in hajimeyuKU does sound different and LIVE)?There is no reason to lip-sync an a-nation performance especially not a song such as this one. And if that's not enough, Ayu screwed up her live perfs. (when it comes to singing) too many times to care about this one, so there is no reason as the performance wasn't that tiring. And after the dumb comments about her lip-syncing Marionette I am pretty sure most of the people don't even listen properly and make false statements.

Lip synching is very sophisticated these days. People don't just use the recording of the song anymore. :) I've seen her live in person several times and I'm sure that she sang live all the time in AT 04, AT 05, and CDL 06-07. After that though, at A-Nation 07, I was pretty certain that she lip synched 1 Love and Until that Day. And during AT 08, I still think that Marionette and Don't Leave Me Alone were lipsynched as well. (it should be obvious just watching the news clip that Marionette is lip synched.) She is wearing a head set mic so you should at least hear breath sounds (which get edited out on the dvd), but you hear none plus it is basically physically impossible to jerk your torso around that much through out the entire song and not have it show in your voice at all.

Also there is the infamous time from CDL 05/06 when during Theme of A-Nation on the tv broadcast there is a close up of her face where it is pretty clear she is mouthing the wrong word and a different sound is coming out. (and Theme of A-Nation is certainly a song you would think she wouldn't have to lip synch)

I think we, as fans often just can't look at this subject objectively because we so badly want her to be singing live all of the time and it clouds our judgment about the likely reality. I think it's ok that she occasionally lip syncs, but it does suck that it seems to be happening more than before. I'd rather hear Ayu sound kinda bad than not real.

Like I said before though, this particular performance of GD is up in the air and we can't judge fully unless we see the whole thing. But, I also think that it is certain she has indeed occasionally lip synched before.

waterballoon 2nd September 2008 07:33 PM

Her assets look... huge on the orange dress. Oh my. But besides that, the costumes are generally all right... except the orange dress, since it's a color she hardly uses. The silver outift also reminds me of her is this LOVE?/(miss)understood performance in AT 06 without the sleeves...

aura~ 2nd September 2008 07:53 PM

I love the outfits!! And about GD... yeah it sounds so PERFECT... well Idk why she have to lipsync this song and no others more dificult than this.... well maybe its not all lipsync... idk...

And all this videos make me think about which performans will be included in the DVD... sure MW/GD/B&G and i'm sure that July 1st have to be included, is the last song... but there's no ballad.. so...asfxx or Hanabi... I hope asfxx... as I said I like the contrast betwen the "first" and the last song ^^


bye and thankyou for the pics and clips!!

maikaru 2nd September 2008 07:54 PM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 1614863)
Also there is the infamous time from CDL 05/06 when during Theme of A-Nation on the tv broadcast there is a close up of her face where it is pretty clear she is mouthing the wrong word and a different sound is coming out. (and Theme of A-Nation is certainly a song you would think she wouldn't have to lip synch)

But... in that time, you could hear the microphone breaths and the weird noises her mouth makes... the with the spit and stuff. I am not convinced that she lipsynced that song... cause there just isn't a reason to lipsync the song... she had 2 minutes to rest before the song, and she sounded the same throughout the entire concert, so ... we will never know what's really to happen at that concert, but I think... like, in the second news feature, when they show they wow yeah from greatful days, she sounds really shouting. I think it's really impossible for her to be lipsyncing Greatful days, because the mixing sounds the same as mirrorcle world and boys and girls, no reverb and no echo, you can just clearly hear her voice..

Plus, the shouting before the song sounds exactly the same kind of vocal quality as the singing... so I don't believe it.

But who knows, maybe she has so advanced methods of doing it... ahaha. Or maybe she used backing track?~

Well, whatever the case is, she still had fun, and it looks really super~energy, so I still can't wait to see it.

SunshineSlayer 2nd September 2008 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by maikaru (Post 1614881)
But... in that time, you could hear the microphone breaths and the weird noises her mouth makes... the with the spit and stuff. I am not convinced that she lipsynced that song... cause there just isn't a reason to lipsync the song... she had 2 minutes to rest before the song, and she sounded the same throughout the entire concert, so ...

So, whats the explanation then? It was shown live and there didn't appear to be any kind of glitch going on. Also, I haven't watched it in a long time but I don't remember there being breath sounds or anything, but if there were, it's easily explainable because people do indeed make sure to keep those in when they record versions of songs to lip sync to now. One of my friends is a professional singer/performer - he's Japanese actually so we often watch all kinds of jpop music shows together and it's honestly so annoying because he always points out who is lip synching and who is not and I'm just like shut up and let me watch already. haha Anyways, even people who I think sound totally live he'll say are most likely lip synching and that lip synching has become extremely sophisticated over the last few years.

btw, I'm sure Ayu has never lip synced on any of her tv performances such as music station, cdtv, etc etc. (too risky maybe?)

Melrose 2nd September 2008 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 1614863)
Lip synching is very sophisticated these days. People don't just use the recording of the song anymore. :) I've seen her live in person several times and I'm sure that she sang live all the time in AT 04, AT 05, and CDL 06-07. After that though, at A-Nation 07, I was pretty certain that she lip synched 1 Love and Until that Day. And during AT 08, I still think that Marionette and Don't Leave Me Alone were lipsynched as well. (it should be obvious just watching the news clip that Marionette is lip synched.) She is wearing a head set mic so you should at least hear breath sounds (which get edited out on the dvd), but you hear none plus it is basically physically impossible to jerk your torso around that much through out the entire song and not have it show in your voice at all.

Also there is the infamous time from CDL 05/06 when during Theme of A-Nation on the tv broadcast there is a close up of her face where it is pretty clear she is mouthing the wrong word and a different sound is coming out. (and Theme of A-Nation is certainly a song you would think she wouldn't have to lip synch)

I think we, as fans often just can't look at this subject objectively because we so badly want her to be singing live all of the time and it clouds our judgment about the likely reality. I think it's ok that she occasionally lip syncs, but it does suck that it seems to be happening more than before. I'd rather hear Ayu sound kinda bad than not real.

Like I said before though, this particular performance of GD is up in the air and we can't judge fully unless we see the whole thing. But, I also think that it is certain she has indeed occasionally lip synched before.

Sorry?? IMO Marionette is REALLY not lipsynched. Just look at her mouth, the sound and listen to the vocals! It's soo live. If it was lip synched, at least she could make it sound better like when she lip synched 1 LOVE or evolution.

Nor is (don't) Leave me alone lip synched, in that particular news clip fragment. Plus, AT08 is the first concert since AT06 with evolution live. I think with this concert she didn't want to lip synch.

I wouldn't be surprised if decision was lip synched, though. She tends to do lip synching with her sexy dance songs.

Plus what's the big deal with lip synching anyway? It's like those things that you don't know for sure, so people keep guessing and guessing because they NEED to know, like human nature. But seriously as long as you don't notice it, how can it annoy you? You'd only become paranoid with every song, and end up with the conclusion that she only sings MUSIC STATION perfs live.:tipsy

SunshineSlayer 2nd September 2008 08:10 PM

I was just searching for some a-nation reviews and found this: http://www.japantoday.com/category/p...ayumi-hamasaki

Scroll down to read the comments. That person said that they think Ayu lip synched 2 songs in the middle. I'm guessing those two were Greatful Days and fairyland.

Linza-mo 2nd September 2008 08:38 PM

Thanks ~angel*ayumi~ !!!

ren0210989 2nd September 2008 08:55 PM

GD is really not lip-synced, you can easily tell, just listen more carefully and you'll notice that she didn't xD

Megshere 2nd September 2008 09:23 PM

Thanks for all the vids and pics.
But seeing all those new pics, I really think Ayu should start working out more... she used to have a great waist. It would probably help her live performances too. She wouldn't get so out of breath when she is running around, as she seems to be a bit.

SunshineSlayer 2nd September 2008 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Megshere (Post 1614944)
Thanks for all the vids and pics.
But seeing all those new pics, I really think Ayu should start working out more... she used to have a great waist. It would probably help her live performances too. She wouldn't get so out of breath when she is running around, as she seems to be a bit.

I agree. I mean she's not fat or anything like that, but she was more toned before and that definitely helps you to have a more powerful live voice. I don't think it's coincidence that the time her body was in its best shape (03-05) was also when her voice was it's most powerful.

Beauty4123 2nd September 2008 10:23 PM

is it really THAT bad if ayu lipsyched, though? it dosen't maker her any less of an artist. it's not like she's committing a crime or anything. i just don't see how it's that big of a deal. :shrug

Melrose 2nd September 2008 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 1614945)
I agree. I mean she's not fat or anything like that, but she was more toned before and that definitely helps you to have a more powerful live voice. I don't think it's coincidence that the time her body was in its best shape (03-05) was also when her voice was it's most powerful.

Well that's nonsense. Many fat/puffy singers have AMAZING voices. E.g. opera singers, but a lot of pop and such too.

Though I do think that if she lost more weight she wouldnt need to lip synch as often to get back her breath. =)

Actually, I wouldn't be capable of singing a lot in a row too. It gives me a sour throat. Maybe she has the same problem? Dunno. Though srsly in 2001 her vocals were terrible, much worse than now.

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is it really THAT bad if ayu lipsyched, though? it dosen't maker her any less of an artist. it's not like she's committing a crime or anything. i just don't see how it's that big of a deal.
100% agree with that!!

maikaru 3rd September 2008 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 1614887)
Also, I haven't watched it in a long time but I don't remember there being breath sounds or anything, but if there were, it's easily explainable because people do indeed make sure to keep those in when they record versions of songs to lip sync to now.

----

btw, I'm sure Ayu has never lip synced on any of her tv performances such as music station, cdtv, etc etc. (too risky maybe?)

I mean, even if you watch the dvd version, you can hear the microphone sounds there too... the hard k sounds, like the rest of the performance of Countdown, I think it's realllllly so similar. But, yeah they could have done that too... whatever~ ahaha.

Anyways, I really liked that performance, regardless of lipsync or not ahaha~

And yeah, I don't think it's ALLOWED on them. Like, of course they can use a backing track for songs, like the chorus, but unless the artist states that they will be lipsyncing because of a dance, like KAT-TUN did for lips, the shows really want to keep their integrity.

I mean, how many times have we heard her so awful? LOL
So it's useless for her only to do it sometimes, and not others~

But anyways~ I feel like Greatful Days had a good performance, without lipsync, even though I hate that song. -_-;

Anyways, let's see what the rest of asia tour has to offer~~ ahaha.
I can't wait~ so much energy. I wanna go badly~~ T T uuu
I was reading the news about her performance~ "biggest energy."
It makes me happy~~~

truehappiness 3rd September 2008 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 1614887)
So, whats the explanation then? It was shown live and there didn't appear to be any kind of glitch going on. Also, I haven't watched it in a long time but I don't remember there being breath sounds or anything, but if there were, it's easily explainable because people do indeed make sure to keep those in when they record versions of songs to lip sync to now. One of my friends is a professional singer/performer - he's Japanese actually so we often watch all kinds of jpop music shows together and it's honestly so annoying because he always points out who is lip synching and who is not and I'm just like shut up and let me watch already. haha Anyways, even people who I think sound totally live he'll say are most likely lip synching and that lip synching has become extremely sophisticated over the last few years.

btw, I'm sure Ayu has never lip synced on any of her tv performances such as music station, cdtv, etc etc. (too risky maybe?)

Well, in all fairness, breath sounds seem to be nonexistent in many Ayu lives nowadays tbh...

SunshineSlayer 3rd September 2008 02:04 AM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1615127)
Well, in all fairness, breath sounds seem to be nonexistent in many Ayu lives nowadays tbh...

Yeah, on the dvds, it's always like that - I'm sure because of avex editing. imo they definitely over editing AT07. If you are just watching the DVD and had no previous knowledge of Ayu, I'm sure it would seem like she is lip synching at least half the concert.

Taru86 3rd September 2008 02:41 AM

Wow, I love all of the videos posted! And I think Ayu's voice sounds really good, and Greatful Days sounds awesome too! I love the way she sounds live:luv2 Plus she looks great, and seems to have a lot of energy in her performances:)


(I really love the fact that these days it seems like people expect her to sound bad live, and the second she sounds 'good' they instantly claim she lip-syncs. But what ever, everyone has their own opinion..:shrug)

SunshineSlayer 3rd September 2008 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Taru86 (Post 1615162)
(I really love the fact that these days it seems like people expect her to sound bad live, and the second she sounds 'good' they instantly claim she lip-syncs. But what ever, everyone has their own opinion..:shrug)

It's not just because she sounds "good"; imo she used to always sound pretty good live. It's other factors which have been discussed in depth already that lead people to believe it is lip synched, including someone who was there saying that it was.

jbrat2219 3rd September 2008 03:33 AM

I wouldn't mind if she lip synced once in a while. I mean she's had no function in her left ear for a while now, maybe that's why it's "seemingly" more frequent.

truehappiness 3rd September 2008 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 1615131)
Yeah, on the dvds, it's always like that - I'm sure because of avex editing. imo they definitely over editing AT07. If you are just watching the DVD and had no previous knowledge of Ayu, I'm sure it would seem like she is lip synching at least half the concert.

Well, not simply the DVDs,, but like TV versions too.

Foyuki 3rd September 2008 12:00 PM

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aqua_crystal 3rd September 2008 12:19 PM

Thanks for the pics!!! Ayu had some really great outfits!!!

hiroshi_ben 3rd September 2008 12:29 PM

i love the orange outfit!i think its one of her best stage outfit in ages!

and the red dress...i think its sort of diff from the one in mirrorcle world...because i think theres a opening in between where they can tear it apart and reveal the rocking outfit inside(the silver one)

TITANIC 3rd September 2008 01:22 PM

I love her red dress..
she wears it everywhere when she sing MW.

prussian blue 3rd September 2008 01:41 PM

did she wear a wig in MW? the hair style is different in grateful days...

and i'm really afraid the red dress will be torned by ayu's big gesture...

freedreamer 3rd September 2008 02:58 PM

^i think, she just bunned it up...and when the rain came, she just flicked her fringe up...

yea, the red dress looks different..and its cool they even made a new one for the tearing..haha

and she looks great...i really really LOVE the orange dress...its veyr fairyland and summery

rikku411 3rd September 2008 03:58 PM

All this time I swore the rain was part of the performance xD

Hmm, waterproof equipment... lol, but it adds the perfect effect to her performance :D

SunshineSlayer 3rd September 2008 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 1615224)
I wouldn't mind if she lip synced once in a while. I mean she's had no function in her left ear for a while now, maybe that's why it's "seemingly" more frequent.

Yeah, I mean to me it is slightly disappointing, but as long as she does it only once in a while I'm ok with it. I just wanted to point out to people that yes, even Ayu does lip synch occasionally.

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Originally Posted by truehappiness (Post 1615244)
Well, not simply the DVDs,, but like TV versions too.

hmm? I always have no problem hearing breath sounds and other little things that you should hear when someone is actually singing into the mic on her tv performances. It's also worth noting that she usually pulls the mic away from her mouth immediately between lines, so you aren't always going to hear something. However, if she is wearing a headset mic, you definitely should be hearing things throughout the performance.

thangkhung91 3rd September 2008 09:09 PM

It's a bit sad that she's not wearing her left in-ear just keeps reminding me that she can't use it :(

But it seems like a great performance though. Don't mind if she lip-syncing. It's not a big deal if you for example compare to Britney Spears (yeah I know. Stupid comparison haha:P)

''Also there is the infamous time from CDL 05/06 when during Theme of A-Nation on the tv broadcast there is a close up of her face where it is pretty clear she is mouthing the wrong word and a different sound is coming out. (and Theme of A-Nation is certainly a song you would think she wouldn't have to lip synch)''

When you said that I got reminded pf the UNITE! performance in AT06 at the end of the first chorus where they do the hand-thingy at the waist and the hip-moves it's noticeable that she lip-syncs. I don't know if this has been brought up, just thought it was a similar to the 05-06 incident.

Moody 3rd September 2008 10:02 PM

I am sad to hear that Ayu has lipsynced maybe. But I know a lot of artists do it. I can imagine it would be hard to dance and sing like that at the same time without losing your breath.

4ever*ayu 4th September 2008 12:03 AM

sometimes we need to admit something we don't want to admit,..LOL

Chibi_Venus 4th September 2008 12:34 AM

I actually like the red dress here. It looks very slimming (not that she's fat, but the dress surely shows off her curves) and I love the sleeveless look!

She really does look fantastic this year. That hair length is perfect and she just looks awesome! ^^

A performance in the rain is just what we need. :) It's one thing to have her a little damp from a shower from a "Boys & Girls" performance, but a soaked Ayu just looks fabulous! :P

mikecavs11 4th September 2008 12:51 AM

all this talk about lip syncing with mirrorcle world and greatful days, i think you guys might be doubting her talent, but the only thing that makes me think that shes lip syncing is when she uses vocalization with her voice in songs like talkin 2 myself

truehappiness 4th September 2008 03:00 AM

AT06's UNITE! was iffy since they showed us a TON of non-final-live clips of UNITE in the 2nd DVD..

ayumimylove 4th September 2008 05:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Lee_410 (Post 1611972)
Gosh,Ayu,we are getting sick of Boys&Girls!

YES!! Itīs an HORRIBLE tracklist, I REALLY hope that in tv version show us the Mirrorcle world and A song for performances because are the only ones that save the show

majrakun 4th September 2008 09:05 AM

I was wondering, why aren't they showing ASFXX, fairyland and HANABI? Is it just in a matter of time in some other newsclip? Or are these the perfs that they're going to broadcast? OR...are these the performances with low chances of being broadcasted? :(

ayumisrael 4th September 2008 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumimylove (Post 1616501)
YES!! It´s an HORRIBLE tracklist, I REALLY hope that in tv version show us the Mirrorcle world and A song for performances because are the only ones that save the show

For you, for the japanese people (which they sell it to) they love those crowd songs to death.
And actually I wouldn't mind if ayu will keep singing Boys & Girls. I love that song.

truehappiness 5th September 2008 02:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by majrakun (Post 1616618)
I was wondering, why aren't they showing ASFXX, fairyland and HANABI? Is it just in a matter of time in some other newsclip? Or are these the perfs that they're going to broadcast? OR...are these the performances with low chances of being broadcasted? :(

The latter.

Basically.. you probably won't ever see fairyland / HANABI / ASFXX. lol.

Maybe they'll be in the TV version.. but I doubt it.

pommy48 5th September 2008 05:11 AM

http://i361.photobucket.com/albums/o...mmy408/1-1.jpg
http://i361.photobucket.com/albums/o...mmy408/2-1.jpg
these look really clear~ and the second pic is just of her armpit...idk when people like to notice this kind of thing

Bad Wolf 9th September 2008 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 1614358)
People! have you ever heard the studio version of Grateful Days (plus the KU in hajimeyuKU does sound different and LIVE)?There is no reason to lip-sync an a-nation performance especially not a song such as this one. And if that's not enough, Ayu screwed up her live perfs. (when it comes to singing) too many times to care about this one, so there is no reason as the performance wasn't that tiring. And after the dumb comments about her lip-syncing Marionette I am pretty sure most of the people don't even listen properly and make false statements.

THIS.

So. Much. Word.

SunshineSlayer 9th September 2008 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by mikecavs11 (Post 1616232)
all this talk about lip syncing with mirrorcle world and greatful days, i think you guys might be doubting her talent, but the only thing that makes me think that shes lip syncing is when she uses vocalization with her voice in songs like talkin 2 myself

I'm sure Mirrorcle World was live; really no question about that one I don't think. Greatful Days (and possibly fairyland) are the songs that it seems like she most likely lip synched.

and lol at those pictures above.

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Originally Posted by thangkhung91 (Post 1616063)

When you said that I got reminded pf the UNITE! performance in AT06 at the end of the first chorus where they do the hand-thingy at the waist and the hip-moves it's noticeable that she lip-syncs. I don't know if this has been brought up, just thought it was a similar to the 05-06 incident.

That's a possibility too, but I always think it is too hard to know for sure when it comes to something that is on DVD since Avex always seems to mess with the sound to make it better.

I'm wondering, where are all the people who make Ayu bootlegs? Doesn't even have to be video, just audio. That way people can hear if her voice sounds the same on certain songs from one date to the next. It's funny that you can easily find bootlegs for just about every Hello Project concert, but I've never heard one for an Ayu concert. They even check peoples bags more thoroughly at HP concerts than they do Ayu's yet the bootlegs still come out. :shrug

Chibi_Venus 9th September 2008 01:43 AM

God, I can't get over that picture of her singing in the rain. She looks so fierce! Hot! Incredible! :D

And, ugh, what's with that second picture? :laugh Almost as random as the armpit discussion on the old BLUE BIRD single covers. :laugh

(I just know it's going to start. People talking about Ayu's weight. *puts in ear plugs and shuts out all "fat" comments*)

I'm just saying because I will admit she looks more... round than usual (especially in her stomach). But I'm not calling her fat! Seriously, I bet half of our society wishes they could look like her! (Not only weight-wise, but even performance-wise! :P)

~X2RADialbomber~ 9th September 2008 01:51 AM

Poor Ayu. She has to hold her breath all the time just to keep you guys happy. :P

Moody 9th September 2008 02:08 AM

I don't see Ayu as being fatter at all. She has a six pack now... look closer. Girl looks good!!

njanjayrp 9th September 2008 09:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 1616646)
For you, for the japanese people (which they sell it to) they love those crowd songs to death.
And actually I wouldn't mind if ayu will keep singing Boys & Girls. I love that song.

That's true, plus Ayu is one of the rare artists who performed the album tracks, and not just the singles, she performed the songs that are best suited for the occasion and that people love.

aura~ 9th September 2008 12:28 PM

Poor ayu... we aren't happy with anything... she sings in live and bad, oh she sang bad, she makes lip-sync, oh she did lip-sync... idk but i never notice when she do lip-sync or not.. mm yeah in GD everybody can see she's singing quite better than MW, but this two songs are really different.... I mean MW is quite difficult, there's almost no melody, And B&G is the tipical song where she scream a lot, int he clips we only see the part where she's shouting, so we can't see the rest if she sings good or not, but this song is always: don't care if i sing bad.

One difficult, the other... well, special.. And asfxx, hanabi and fairyland is where we could see if she sings like in GD or not... IMO...

But well... i hope we'll see the rest of performances in TV version or sth!

TITANIC 9th September 2008 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by pommy408 (Post 1617671)
http://i361.photobucket.com/albums/o...mmy408/1-1.jpg
http://i361.photobucket.com/albums/o...mmy408/2-1.jpg
these look really clear~ and the second pic is just of her armpit...idk when people like to notice this kind of thing


where you found these picts, Pommy???

waterballoon 9th September 2008 01:43 PM

Weren't the threads on her Arena Tour this year contained information of her "missing" parts in Marionette? As in she sang the wrong line or something... now I don't think that's lip-synching already, isn't it?

I can't believe that we would believe she lipsynched just because some random blogger said so. Who are we to believe him? Does he any proof? Isn't it so ridiculous that he could just be believed like that? Without any evidence? Just his own words/opinions?

And yes, I agree with that person (sorry I forgot your name) who said that Ayu has made too many screw ups in her live performances to bother lip synching this a-nation performance. And the point would be? She has been singing live authentically ever since she started, I don't believe an impaired left ear would give someone of a character like hers to start lip synching.

SolarAngel 9th September 2008 01:43 PM

She looks so tanned! And she's still baring her mid-riff woo hoo!

TITANIC 10th September 2008 10:23 AM

more ayu picts on oricon

http://www.oricon.co.jp/music/specia...p?img=01#photo

I cant caps the pict

miskiq 10th September 2008 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by riozz (Post 1624164)
more ayu picts on oricon

http://www.oricon.co.jp/music/specia...p?img=01#photo

I cant caps the pict


http://img381.imageshack.us/img381/7636/picl02zu7.jpg

~ayu-cake~ 10th September 2008 10:42 AM

Love Ayu's outfits this year =D

majrakun 10th September 2008 03:24 PM

I wonder if anyone could give a report of the performances? I want to know more than those newsclips! D:

freedreamer 10th September 2008 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by miskiq (Post 1624172)

she looks...DRY...LOL
but great as usual

SolarAngel 10th September 2008 05:54 PM

Dry..? Erm she's not exactly wrinkled old prune material but since you're performing in front of a huge crowd, i suppose a-nation performances would usually be high-octane stuff.

Moody 10th September 2008 05:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SolarAngel (Post 1624716)
Dry..? Erm she's not exactly wrinkled old prune material but since you're performing in front of a huge crowd, i suppose a-nation performances would usually be high-octane stuff.

I think they meant "Dry" because in the other pictures of A Nation its raining and she's "wet". ;)

pommy48 16th September 2008 05:32 AM

hmm idk if a video like this have been posted, but here you go anyways
http://www.wretch.cc/album/show.php?...1248012344&p=0
this is the j/kpop show in taiwan where it introduce up and coming CDs, anything japanese or korean
...well at least i know where she changed from red dress to silver outfit~

mikecavs11 16th September 2008 05:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pommy408 (Post 1631577)
hmm idk if a video like this have been posted, but here you go anyways
http://www.wretch.cc/album/show.php?...1248012344&p=0
this is the j/kpop show in taiwan where it introduce up and coming CDs, anything japanese or korean
...well at least i know where she changed from red dress to silver outfit~

thanks!!

definitely dont think she's lip syncing in greatful days now.....just vocalization

majrakun 16th September 2008 05:56 AM

Ya, a much longer clip! But still, it's only MW, Greatful Days, B&G. At least they showed AUDIENCE. LOL, I love how she said thank you in the end. XD "Sankyuuuu~"

Evolution7/4 18th September 2008 02:34 AM

So cool with the dress change in Mirrorcle World! She sounds pretty good, it sounds like she might be a bit sick from excessive singing (maybe from 2008 arena tour) maybe her leaft ear deafness added a bit to it, but Greatful Days sounds very good and I agree doesn't seem like lipsynching.

hanahanabira 20th September 2008 03:23 AM

omg, did she say 「だぜ」、「お前ら」??!:O

jiarongisme 20th September 2008 05:55 AM

Lol I knew it. It's not lip-syncing at all. Thanks for the vid!

freedreamer 20th September 2008 06:10 AM

NOW that video has cleared the air of doubt...definitely no lip-synch...maybe just the backup vocals....
i mean, look, Peco and Princess sounded so smooth in Boys & Girls....

that change in MW was WOW

@SolarAngel...I meant DRY as in NOT WET...in that photo..


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