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SURREAL__RAINBOW 11th December 2008 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by SolarAngel (Post 1737178)
I kind of agree with you. Yeah asia tour is cool but why is it spanning over 3 months? And she doesn't seem to do much in between. I think for her new album to sell more than A Complete, she has to do great in live performances and have strong songs behind her. I don't think Days and maybe GREEN were very strong.

People are still buying A Complete but even though it's still in top 50 and all that, it's like a drib here and a drab there. It's good that its stabilized for the past few weeks but the way it's going, i put it's best figure at 850k which is disappointing for me cos come on! 10 anniversaries! And that's the best it's selling? How is it not even hitting a million? Of course the sales are wonderful, it's 9th on the annual chart but this is ayumi hamasaki. I thought her name was bigger than 850k in japan but apparently it's not. Even (miss)understood sold better. I'm not blaming her or her production team, it's just so frustrating to see her sales slide and not even know what to put my finger on. Declining music industry is one thing but so many artistes seem to be flourishing despite that. Maybe it's just a phase and she'll get back on top but it's not happening at all right now.



I agree!
and she also needs very good pvs! and as you said, good songs too!


or her sales are going to keep falling down in a spin.

ayumisrael 11th December 2008 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SolarAngel (Post 1737178)
I kind of agree with you. Yeah asia tour is cool but why is it spanning over 3 months? And she doesn't seem to do much in between. I think for her new album to sell more than A Complete, she has to do great in live performances and have strong songs behind her. I don't think Days and maybe GREEN were very strong.

People are still buying A Complete but even though it's still in top 50 and all that, it's like a drib here and a drab there. It's good that its stabilized for the past few weeks but the way it's going, i put it's best figure at 850k which is disappointing for me cos come on! 10 anniversaries! And that's the best it's selling? How is it not even hitting a million? Of course the sales are wonderful, it's 9th on the annual chart but this is ayumi hamasaki. I thought her name was bigger than 850k in japan but apparently it's not. Even (miss)understood sold better. I'm not blaming her or her production team, it's just so frustrating to see her sales slide and not even know what to put my finger on. Declining music industry is one thing but so many artistes seem to be flourishing despite that. Maybe it's just a phase and she'll get back on top but it's not happening at all right now.

I agree with you since I find it ridiculous that some others randomly sell million or close to million and ayu doesn't but one of the main reasons is that she had no radio/ear mainstream friendly song. Now she has Days and hopefully it will help but it's just one song and an album won't suceed just because of 1-2 radio/ear friendy songs and her inside promotion (not billboards or outside stuff) wasn't too much good for the singles.
Other artists, at least the females that sold million this year or the last had much more radio/ear friendly songs, catchy, poppy, a lot of ballads and had greater startegies.
ayu can't sell million just with 1 ballad and 1 summer song in an album since the rockish songs are unfortunately not that mainstream and not radio/ear friendly, not as half as all of the ballads, cute, or catchy pop songs that the others do.
If ayu would fill her albums with cute songs, catchy pop and like 5 ballads and at least 3-4 of the songs were very mainstream and their singles would succeed I gurantee you she would sell million easily.
Since she loves doing rock and that's what suits her best and she doesn't want to fill an album with money/sales grabbing stuff then it will be hard for her.
People in japan doesn't buy music for creativity, quality music and such, they buy music because they relate to lyrics of catchy pop/cute songs or "beautiful" ballad songs it's not nearly easy with rock typed songs, even if ayu's are high quality and are really good.
Another reason (specifically for A COMPLETE) is that avex pretty much killed its chance to be a million seller with last year's A BEST 2. Overall and what they earned from all of those stuff is a huge huge huge profit. A BEST 2 were avex's best profitting project of last year and they posted in one of their pdfs of last year.
If it wouldn't be released I gurantee you AC could be the 2nd or 3rd at least best selling album of this year since A BEST was in 2001 and now it's 2008 so a lot more people would get it but most wanted to stay with A BEST 2 as it seems and a lot of others purchased AC and it also brought a huge profit to avex.

On other note as the Oricon year of 2008 ended, A COMPLETE ~ALL SINGLES~ is #8 yearly!!! ^_^

waterballoon 11th December 2008 05:29 PM

Unfortunately, if Ayu releases stuff that Japan loves, and thus would create good sales and chart positions in Japan, the international fans would hate her... (see how cute/pop songs like HONEY, glitter, MY ALL etc are totally labeled as 'bad', 'boring', 'repeated', 'unoriginal' and all that?)

I wouldn't want to see Ayu losing her cool style of making rock songs and experimental songs, but of course, her cute pop songs and ballads are still my favorites... I think it's more of striking a balance. She can go either way and garner fans from both spectrum, but the best would to have albums that contain both of such songs? I'm not too sure though... sometimes it's difficult to predict such things.

P.S: Yay #8! I think I said before that 8 is a lucky number. Hahaha.

SolarAngel 15th December 2008 09:06 AM

Yeah maybe it's just a bad time for solo females right now. A few years back, it was Misia then Namie then Ayumi/Hikaru then Ai then Kumi. It's the boys' turn lol. Hopefully it's a repeating cycle.

kendelle 16th December 2008 09:06 AM

I think CDJ want her to get more sales!

For a limited time, all purchases of AC come with a new "case". See the main J-Pop page here: http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/jpop/index.html and the case here: http://www.cdjapan.co.jp/blog_img/ar...ayumi_case.jpg

Ayumi Hamasaki / A Complete - All Singles Present Campaign

Original case will be offered to purchasers of "Ayumi Hamasaki / A Complete - All Singles " on a first-come, first served basis while supply lasts. The offer is eligible both for Type A and Type B.
=> Go to Ayumi Hamasaki complete releases list page


Waah, I want to buy another AC now to get the case! xDD I wish our exchange rate didn't suck so much right now though...I might have gottenn the regular 3CD version if I were cashed up but I want Kanon Wakeshima's new album more at the moment ^^'

YotaLM21 16th December 2008 12:56 PM

It's really cute indeed ^^

http://img139.imageshack.us/img139/72/ayumicasetv5.jpg

I dont think its just CDJapan, look:
http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/2...tegreenue3.jpg

marekcarey 16th December 2008 05:35 PM

what is it guys? what kind of case? it instead of the paper box or what? im an idiot i know im sorry:(/

sanzo2011 17th December 2008 03:51 AM

Can anyone update AC's sales ?

Ayumiko 17th December 2008 05:25 AM

14th Week
Position: #72
Sales: 3,101
Total Sales: 818,744

Sold more than last week =D

SolarAngel 17th December 2008 05:46 AM

Thanks! Hope it can keep this up for a long time to come.

jbrat2219 17th December 2008 05:50 AM

Maybe this campaign CD Japan and other stores have will boost sales :O

YotaLM21 17th December 2008 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by marekcarey (Post 1744509)
what is it guys? what kind of case? it instead of the paper box or what? im an idiot i know im sorry:(/

No, it has nothing to do with the CD case, it's an extra bag they give away when you buy the album, I think it's made of some kind of plastic or something similar, and it has a zipper similar to those ziploc bags

......and please don't call yourself an idiot :no

njanjayrp 17th December 2008 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Ayumiko (Post 1745330)
14th Week
Position: #72
Sales: 3,101
Total Sales: 818,744

Sold more than last week =D

It's doing better than I expected!

SolarAngel 17th December 2008 08:16 AM

It looks maybe big enough to hold a tissue packet so maybe it's a glam packet holder :P Maybe what some people say about Days/GREEN boosting A Complete's sales is true. It's a small boost but hey, we were expecting it to continue going down and it's going up. That's good enough for me.

Lanz16 17th December 2008 08:20 AM

Im so outdated this. :(

Thank God that it reached 800K mark and it will sell more and more.
Christmas week is a good chance(?) to get more decent sales on AC.

Thanks for the updates. :)

sanzo2011 17th December 2008 10:40 AM

Good sales ! thanks for your update , Ayumiko !.

TITANIC 17th December 2008 11:27 AM

looks like it stuck on 2-3K sales per week

AyuGAME 17th December 2008 11:43 AM

X'mas help the sales of everything though...
many people buy a gift...
and i'm happy that the sales is so steady

freedreamer 18th December 2008 12:30 AM

its selling More and more? HAHAH cool

jimex289 18th December 2008 10:31 PM

Bah that case isn't fair for the people who brought the first press and didn't get any bonuses...not even a sticker.

ComatoseBunnySnatcher 19th December 2008 03:52 AM

^ yeah.

rakeru 20th December 2008 08:54 PM

i'm so happy that she's in the top 10 for this year!

SolarAngel 21st December 2008 01:22 PM

What's the case about? Some special Christmas thing?

waterballoon 21st December 2008 01:36 PM

^ Perhaps a desperate attempt to boost sales...

ALfromHELLSING 22nd December 2008 09:08 AM

Yay!! For #8!! Congrats Ayu!!

Raleigh 22nd December 2008 09:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waterballoon (Post 1751581)
^ Perhaps a desperate attempt to boost sales...

Pretty much. avex will go to any lengths to boost sales :P

waterballoon 22nd December 2008 04:13 PM

^ This reminds me that avex are masters at promotion, boosting sales and releasing new material.

rakeru 22nd December 2008 06:17 PM

you guys make them sound so evil ^___^

lfe. 22nd December 2008 06:32 PM

Awesome its still selling steadily 2-3k a week. Go A COMPLETE!

TITANIC 23rd December 2008 12:39 AM

50 -- 43 48 40 43↑37 浜崎あゆみ 「A COMPLETE ~ALL SINGLES~」
woww... Days/GREEN help AC so much

Melon Panda 23rd December 2008 04:19 AM

It's STILL selling? (I'm so proud.)

sanzo2011 23rd December 2008 05:32 AM

OMG ! it backs to top 50 ! i'm so happy ! thanks riozz .

Gkone01 23rd December 2008 09:50 AM

15th Week
Position: #48
Sales: 3,957
Total Sales: 822,701

sanzo2011 23rd December 2008 10:22 AM

Wah ! it still sells well ! .

Lanz16 23rd December 2008 10:43 AM

WOW!
Its staying alive and it still sell high!

apple-pi 23rd December 2008 12:23 PM

wow o__o A COMPLETE sure does have a nice longevity. I had no idea.
I dare it to reach to 900k!! *delusional*

TITANIC 23rd December 2008 01:02 PM

woow, prays for ayu to sell 900K..

waterballoon 23rd December 2008 05:35 PM

Lol, it's still charting! That's really good to know... maybe avex's cheap tactics of that 10th anniversary case thingy really did help... O.o

njanjayrp 23rd December 2008 05:54 PM

The best thing about it is that the sales are always around 4 k <3

jimex289 23rd December 2008 08:41 PM

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Originally Posted by waterballoon (Post 1754780)
Lol, it's still charting! That's really good to know... maybe avex's cheap tactics of that 10th anniversary case thingy really did help... O.o

Not just that but releasing 4 versions of a single. I can't name many other artists who release 4 of anything. I've seen 4-5 but very rarely...and that was an album I'm sure only the most hardcore of fans would buy.

njanjayrp 23rd December 2008 09:19 PM

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Originally Posted by jimex289 (Post 1755018)
Not just that but releasing 4 versions of a single. I can't name many other artists who release 4 of anything. I've seen 4-5 but very rarely...and that was an album I'm sure only the most hardcore of fans would buy.

Well even so having 800+k of Hardcore fans is great (tough I doubt those were all really HC fans as her albums sales would prolly be better than). And many artists release multiple versions of their singles~

Yum!Fruit_Salad! 23rd December 2008 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jimex289 (Post 1755018)
Not just that but releasing 4 versions of a single. I can't name many other artists who release 4 of anything. I've seen 4-5 but very rarely...and that was an album I'm sure only the most hardcore of fans would buy.

Visual kei band release 3 version of singles almost every time. Give it time, I'm sure when Ai's 10th anniversary rolls around she'll do 4 versions and Koda Kumi probably will do the same.

Kaiouforever 24th December 2008 03:57 AM

It's nice to see she's managing to stay afloat, and a nice little bump in sales.

rakeru 24th December 2008 06:14 AM

power to week 15! this is the little album that could...

Gasuko-chan 25th December 2008 11:09 AM

OMG that's great! 800k, amazing.

TITANIC 25th December 2008 11:59 PM

48 40 43 37 -- --↑50 浜崎あゆみ 「A COMPLETE ~ALL SINGLES~」
back to top 50 again XD

Yum!Fruit_Salad! 26th December 2008 10:50 PM

Nice little bump there.

waterballoon 27th December 2008 01:02 PM

Is it just me or is A COMPLETE impressing and surprising me (in terms of sales) more than Days/GREEN?

njanjayrp 27th December 2008 01:21 PM

It's meaningless to compare a Single Complete and a new single (which was released barely two weeks ago).

TITANIC 27th December 2008 02:33 PM

43 37 -- -- 50 49/47 浜崎あゆみ 「A COMPLETE ~ALL SINGLES~」

yaiiiy

sanzo2011 27th December 2008 02:34 PM

Wah ! AC 's doing very well !.

waterballoon 27th December 2008 05:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 1759674)
It's meaningless to compare a Single Complete and a new single (which was released barely two weeks ago).

Yeah, I know what you mean. I understand fully that A COMPLETE is a omg-compilation-all singles collection album, compared to a single... but still...

Days/GREEN is after all, a FRESH single, but the sales it's reflecting is not so good... but A COMPLETE has been out for about 3 months and I don't feel disappointed with its current sales...

How should we say this... I was really happy with the first day sales of the single, but after it just fell, WAY too low... it's now 1k+, but it's #1? Then what about the other singles in the chart? They must have sold even lesser than Days/GREEN's sale for today... which is still not good!

But of course if Oricon were to factor in legal digital downloads, then we could have gotten a much different story...

(This sounds like it should be in the Days/GREEN thread... my apologies..)

Ayumi_lover 27th December 2008 06:16 PM

^WOW!! A COMPLETE is going REALLY GREAT!!!

njanjayrp 27th December 2008 09:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waterballoon (Post 1759875)
Yeah, I know what you mean. I understand fully that A COMPLETE is a omg-compilation-all singles collection album, compared to a single... but still...

Days/GREEN is after all, a FRESH single, but the sales it's reflecting is not so good... but A COMPLETE has been out for about 3 months and I don't feel disappointed with its current sales...

How should we say this... I was really happy with the first day sales of the single, but after it just fell, WAY too low... it's now 1k+, but it's #1? Then what about the other singles in the chart? They must have sold even lesser than Days/GREEN's sale for today... which is still not good!

But of course if Oricon were to factor in legal digital downloads, then we could have gotten a much different story...

(This sounds like it should be in the Days/GREEN thread... my apologies..)

i get what you're saying ^^ but compared to other female artists she is doing really well :) as it will prolly outsell glitter/fated as well!

waterballoon 28th December 2008 03:57 PM

^ Yeah, she's doing fantastic as compared to many other female artistes actually. That's a great feat! ^^

TITANIC 28th December 2008 11:34 PM

37 -- -- 50 49 47\50 浜崎あゆみ 「A COMPLETE ~ALL SINGLES~」

Peger 29th December 2008 12:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waterballoon (Post 1759875)
Yeah, I know what you mean. I understand fully that A COMPLETE is a omg-compilation-all singles collection album, compared to a single... but still...

Days/GREEN is after all, a FRESH single, but the sales it's reflecting is not so good... but A COMPLETE has been out for about 3 months and I don't feel disappointed with its current sales...

How should we say this... I was really happy with the first day sales of the single, but after it just fell, WAY too low... it's now 1k+, but it's #1? Then what about the other singles in the chart? They must have sold even lesser than Days/GREEN's sale for today... which is still not good!

But of course if Oricon were to factor in legal digital downloads, then we could have gotten a much different story...

(This sounds like it should be in the Days/GREEN thread... my apologies..)

Singles always sell significantly less than albums. Especially compilation albums. Where've you been bb?

waterballoon 29th December 2008 12:40 PM

^ My intention was never to compare the sales of Days/GREEN and A COMPLETE. Obviously I've not been living under a rock so I DO know that albums sell much higher than singles. What I was talking about was the "impact" of the sales of Days/GREEN and A COMPLETE. Take a look at what riozz just posted for today's sales; and then look at Days/GREEN.

I know Days/GREEN is still #1 but come on, you don't feel that 1.4k+ for a #1 is pathetic? And I feel even so much more that Days/GREEN deserve much higher sales. Days/GREEN can be #1 weekly for its first week, and it could drop to other positions in the next week, but if it sold like more than that 1.4k, I would still be satisfied. I'm just upset about the sales of physical CDs, especially singles. If Days/GREEN could get #1 with 1.4k, then what about others, like Koda Kumi? On that same day, at #2, her sales index was 1.1k. What about #3, #4, #5, and so on?

aura~ 29th December 2008 11:06 PM

mmm i don't understand the sales... I mean.. i only see that AC is going up and down... but the sales numbers?? where are they??

XDD

maybe i'm stupid... xDD


EDIT: sorry! now i understand!! those are the movements in positions during 16th week.. tomorrow we'll know the salles right? i think now i've understood ^^u

TITANIC 30th December 2008 02:59 AM

^ yeap

-- -- 50 49 47 50↑46 浜崎あゆみ 「A COMPLETE ~ALL SINGLES~」

rakeru 30th December 2008 03:05 AM

^thanks.

i hope this means that she's beginning to pull out of that harsh decline.

SolarAngel 30th December 2008 05:19 AM

Gosh madness! And it's such a bulky expensive thing too! Way to go! Thanks for the update Ayumisrael.

TITANIC 6th January 2009 03:49 AM

44 37 36 35 33 37→37 浜崎あゆみ 「A COMPLETE ~ALL SINGLES~」

Lanz16 6th January 2009 04:12 AM

^ WAW!!!
Thanks for the latest ranking!

sanzo2011 6th January 2009 11:31 AM

Can someone update her sales ? .

freedreamer 6th January 2009 11:43 AM

haha..at that rank...its hard to tell

ayumisrael 6th January 2009 12:28 PM

A COMPLETE ~ALL SINGLES~ two combined weeks (16th & 17th weeks)
Position: #48
Sales: 8,979
Total Sales: 831,680

Great!

keikeiaznqueen 6th January 2009 12:39 PM

^ Wow, it's still charting well! :D Keep it up, A COMPLETE!!

njanjayrp 6th January 2009 01:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 1770294)
A COMPLETE ~ALL SINGLES~ two combined weeks (16th & 17th weeks)
Position: #48
Sales: 8,979
Total Sales: 831,680

Great!

really great 2-week sales! This has already sold more than I predicted (820k), so I guess 850k isn't impossible considering it's still in top 50!!

waterballoon 6th January 2009 01:19 PM

OMG. O-M-G. #37 is quite an achievement! I guess 850k is kind of within sight now!

sanzo2011 6th January 2009 02:20 PM

Really great ! i don't expect it sells more like that ! keep your good job , Ayu .

NintendoHTF1242 6th January 2009 02:51 PM

It'll most likely reach 850,000 - 900,000 at least before it dies out.

jbrat2219 6th January 2009 06:21 PM

Maybe it will break a million in a few more months like HEART STATION? :D *wishful thinking*

aura~ 6th January 2009 08:39 PM

if it goes like that AC can reach 850K in 6-7 weeks... i hope so.. maybe at the end of teh year it'll be 900K... But we still don't know the official sale sby avex that counts asian sales, although they count total shipped sales isn't it? maybe they have shipped 1,2 milion in japan and only 831K have been bougth by people...

Ok, it's great!! thanks!

kawmei 6th January 2009 09:29 PM

Awesome sales! :yes

Meat Pao 7th January 2009 09:08 AM

Wow :o I'm thinking by the end of its chart life it'll probably have sold ~850k :D But right now it's still going strong!

TITANIC 8th January 2009 12:42 AM

36 35 33 37 37 36\39 浜崎あゆみ 「A COMPLETE ~ALL SINGLES~」

AC doing very well... looks like she can hit 850K

waterballoon 8th January 2009 06:02 AM

^ Is the #39 her position of the week, or the position for today? Either way, still in the Top 50! =D

MissElin_ 8th January 2009 10:02 AM

Wow it really still do well! Very well actually! Thx for the update!

ayumisrael 8th January 2009 11:33 AM

Today it's #46 but maybe it will go up on the next days!!
Still on top 50 on the 18th week, wow!
GUILTY was out of the top 300 after the 15th week >_>.
AC is doing way better, but it's not surprising of course.

waterballoon 8th January 2009 12:32 PM

Yea it's a compilation album after all. Even the Shojo Beat magazine scan that taskinllusion gave us said that A COMPLETE ~ALL SINGLES~ is popular among all people... be it hardcore fans (like us!) or her casual listeners. But eh, that's like the 'function' of a compilation album after all. XD

lfe. 8th January 2009 04:10 PM

Our next A COMPLETE THREAD should have "INTRO TO 1,000,000" on it j/k :laugh

rakeru 8th January 2009 10:26 PM

^ yeah! each of us will buy 100 more copies, and although we'll be broke, Ayu will be happy/confused.

Aisha_Angel 8th January 2009 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by rakeru (Post 1772958)
^ yeah! each of us will buy 100 more copies, and although we'll be broke, Ayu will be happy/confused.

Right now, I can't even afford one copy of A COMPLETE...let alone 100! ^_^'

Yum!Fruit_Salad! 9th January 2009 12:40 AM

I can't afford 100 more. 50 wouldn't be so bad, lol.

Evolution7/4 9th January 2009 01:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rakeru (Post 1772958)
^ yeah! each of us will buy 100 more copies, and although we'll be broke, Ayu will be happy/confused.

Hahaha!!! Hilarious.

TITANIC 9th January 2009 01:15 PM

it's out from top 50 daily

w.wijaya 9th January 2009 01:21 PM

ayu complete single iz da best! ><

mboqqqqq 9th January 2009 02:21 PM

out of 50 daily??AC get back pliss!

Lanz16 10th January 2009 08:42 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rakeru (Post 1772958)
each of us will buy 100 more copies, and although we'll be broke, Ayu will be happy/confused.

Hehehe... I would love to do it but its still expensive. :tired

CHAS_AYU 10th January 2009 12:43 PM

Wow!
Great sales for A COMPLETE ~ALL SINGLES~
Hope it can pass 850K soon.

Yum!Fruit_Salad! 10th January 2009 06:25 PM

Hope it pops into Top 50 again. :(

jbrat2219 10th January 2009 08:00 PM

Get back up there Ayu!

TITANIC 12th January 2009 03:26 PM

AC is back to top 50 daily again

yuuuuhuuu

36 39 46 -- -- --↑43 浜崎あゆみ 「A COMPLETE ~ALL SINGLES~」

jbrat2219 12th January 2009 06:40 PM

Wow this album has crazy longevity...

Minttulatte 13th January 2009 10:00 AM

What? It's still charting? Awesome. :D I thought that the album stopped charting already but it's cool if it's still active. :)

TITANIC 13th January 2009 10:23 AM

18th week
position : #48
sales : 2,803
Total sales : 834,483

sanzo2011 13th January 2009 10:25 AM

Thanks riozz for her position ! i think her sales 're ok .

ALfromHELLSING 13th January 2009 11:56 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by riozz (Post 1778785)
18th week
position : #48
sales : 2,803
Total sales : 834,483

Whoa! Cool people are still buying it!:luv2
While I still haven't bought a single copy...:headache
They need to reissue First Press & add that huge poster to it, so I'll buy it from the shop (and maybe even force some of my friends:D) not from re-sellers.:yes

hiroshi_ben 13th January 2009 12:24 PM

i think after adding in the rest of the sales outside japan,it will exceed 1million copies!?i hope so


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