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brand new love 2nd July 2009 05:08 PM

lol idu why everyone is making a big deal about these pictures.

omg celebrities look like real people under all that make-up? shocking! getting your picture taken when you look tired as hell wouldn't be flattering for anyone.

ka♡ri. 2nd July 2009 05:20 PM

^maybe because CL looks deranged and hideous? :shrugs

Bom and Sandara still look great though. I love those two. :D

elepop 2nd July 2009 05:24 PM

I agree, Bom and Dara still looks pretty (although tired, but that's no problem).

It seems like they took these pictures in a studio. That's the weird part. XD

brand new love 2nd July 2009 05:35 PM

yeah i don't see why they would even take the pictures in the first place. if i looked like that i would refuse to let them take it. :no

Corvina 2nd July 2009 05:45 PM

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Originally Posted by ka♡ri. (Post 2005603)
^maybe because CL looks deranged and hideous? :shrugs

Maybe it's just a bad photo?

I agree with brand new love, they look normal to me, Bom and Dara are just true natural beauties.

Sundae 2nd July 2009 06:03 PM

The big deal is that they released these pictures purposely for a reason. They sat down, and decided this is a good idea and then made time for this. Not to mention that we've seen pictures of them without make up on and they don't look that bad. So either they made them look uglier here with photoshop or bad lighting or they were wearing minimal makeup there.
Maybe it's their way of proving that 2ne1 is a group that has talent and doesn't rely on their looks to get them by. Or that looks don't equal charisma or something like that. Though it wasn't a major issue before so it must be for the publicity. Kind of sad really. Release ugly, unmade up pictures to get more publicity. Unnecessary publicity at that. 2ne1 didn't need it. I Don't Care is causing more than enough pictures. How were these pictures released anyway?

brand new love 2nd July 2009 06:07 PM

i don't think they were supposed to be released. they just popped up out of nowhere, which is why a lot of people thought they were photoshopped.

freedreamer 2nd July 2009 07:33 PM

ITS REALLY REALLY REAL???? omgarh.... >.<
those look like mugshots

elepop 2nd July 2009 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by brand new love (Post 2005630)
i don't think they were supposed to be released. they just popped up out of nowhere, which is why a lot of people thought they were photoshopped.

Well, the pictures are taken in a studio. If they were just normal candid pictures, then I would definitely think that someone leaked them. But I'm starting to think that it might be really on purpose.

hearted 2nd July 2009 10:17 PM

does it matter? everyone has some bad pictures,,

Kingdom 2nd July 2009 10:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Corvina (Post 2005615)
Maybe it's just a bad photo?

I agree with brand new love, they look normal to me, Bom and Dara are just true natural beauties.

+1 :yes

they look better than most kpop stars without makeup anyway. have you seen 4ne1 4minute?

hearted 2nd July 2009 10:36 PM

maybe they were promoting their new song: we dont care how we look as long as we make good music

minna 3rd July 2009 01:54 AM

Bom and Sandara look great
but cl and minzy ...
yeah I think the same as hearted (we don't care about having no make up on)


I like I don't care, it's a good song~

Re:★ 3rd July 2009 02:58 AM

http://i43.tinypic.com/5pwdj.jpg

The result of boredom and a spare 1/2 hour. I refuse to have the original artwork on my iPod it's so dull. :dead2 But "I Don't Care" is... smashing. :heart

Kingdom 3rd July 2009 03:01 AM

cool re:star! i like it :cool

minna 3rd July 2009 03:04 AM

LOLLL

seriously that cover you did is 100000000x better than the real one
no doubt that I will use it!

hearted 3rd July 2009 10:10 AM

wow that cover is sooooo much better!!! you did such a good job :luv2

Mr. Goto 3rd July 2009 10:16 AM

cool fancover, a lot better than the original :yes


"YG Entertainment said on the 3rd that they will take strong against the leakage of the several photos of 2NE1 members posing with no makeup on.

2ne1_030709A YG representative said, “We are currently investigating into the source of the leakage. The photos leaked out are the stillcut when our staff are deciding on the style and cordi for the girls.”

“We are now investigating into how they were leaked out. This seems like some bad intentions with the recent release of the girls’ new song ‘I Don’t Care’. Our company will make a strong stand that we will be taking actions against whoever leaked them.”

The photos leaked out have shown the members with no makeup at all. Many fans have also voiced their unhappiness with such photos circulating online. Meanwhile the girls’ new song ‘I Don’t Care’ has already gone up to the #1 spot on various music charts."


http://sookyeong.wordpress.com/2009/...e1-beg-narsha/


:eek

Re:★ 3rd July 2009 10:46 AM

Oh Jesus, no make up? Really? Dispicable. Women should always wear makeup. :rolleyes

Corvina 3rd July 2009 12:42 PM

:laugh
I think it's a much bigger scandal in Asia then anywhere else.

howtousesexy 3rd July 2009 01:36 PM

i don't think bom and dara look bad at all there. :yes it's sad that someone had to leak the pic too >.>

not really a big deal but YG are making it more now... imo they should just let it go

Sundae 3rd July 2009 03:39 PM

So the pics were leaked. Personally I would be very embarrassed if no make up pictures of me were around on the internet and I looked worse.

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Originally Posted by Corvina (Post 2006700)
:laugh
I think it's a much bigger scandal in Asia then anywhere else.

Well, yeah. People outside of Asia don't know them.

elepop 3rd July 2009 03:44 PM

^ I agree. Candid pictures aren't too bad. You can't see all the little "flaws". But studio pictures with perfect lightning just show all the little details which is not flattering at all.

Hey, I really like the fanmade cover. Nicely done. Except for the color effect maybe, but I like this picture!

Corvina 3rd July 2009 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Sundae (Post 2006922)
Well, yeah. People outside of Asia don't know them.

No, I mean outside Asia, here in Europe for example, nobody cares that much about photos from celebrities without make up. It's just normal.

minna 3rd July 2009 04:15 PM

well looks like it wasn't supposed to leak!
it sucks what happened but I agree with howtousesexy, yg makes it bigger

hearted 4th July 2009 12:31 AM

i just watched Big Bang's MV with Bom, it was sooo cute!! GD and Bom would definatly make a cute couple :love and bommies voice was sooo good!! why is it so shaky now? :(

edit: ok nevermind, her voice isnt shaky at all, maybe just with the lives, but wow i saw this:



she really has a good voice!!

ka♡ri. 4th July 2009 02:17 AM

before 2ne1 debuted, i was a huge fan of bom and CL! bom's voice in all the big bang lives, videos and her YG released videos were always great. but when she debuted - it just went downhill. i don't understand what happened! she's not living up to her full potential and i hate it!

and CL was such a great rapper to me before too. but when 2ne1 debuted, she was always in the spotlight and it got annoying!

minna 4th July 2009 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by ka♡ri. (Post 2007521)


and CL was such a great rapper to me before too. but when 2ne1 debuted, she was always in the spotlight and it got annoying!

I'm glad to see that I'm not the only one who feels this way
I don't hate CL, but the fact that she's always in the spotlight annoys me
in each live, I had the feeling that we were seeing only her
it's a fact that she is the leader, but I think it's not a reason to put only her in the spotlight

Sundae 4th July 2009 05:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Corvina (Post 2006952)
No, I mean outside Asia, here in Europe for example, nobody cares that much about photos from celebrities without make up. It's just normal.

Ah okay. I thought you meant 2ne1 specifically. I can't say I noticed any really bad pictures of other celebrities. They usually wear makeup if they are going to be out especially if they have paparazzi following them around all the time Or they wear those excessively large sunglasses.

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Originally Posted by hearted (Post 2007430)
bommies voice was sooo good!! why is it so shaky now? :(

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she really has a good voice!!

IA. I have no clue what happens to her when she preforms live with 2ne1. I've seen a couple of videos of her singing live before and she seemed strong. Maybe it's the song itself that doesn't help her.

Speaking of pre debut Bom, her cheeks aren't as large before. IDK if it's her haircut now, but her cheeks are larger now.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ka♡ri. (Post 2007521)

and CL was such a great rapper to me before too. but when 2ne1 debuted, she was always in the spotlight and it got annoying!

I don't have any trouble ignoring CL anymore. I've gotten used to looking behind her when she's doing her solos. CL just has such presence on stage. It's hard to outshine her. Minzi keeps up with CL but doesn't outshine CL. The other two are barely noticeable unless it's their turn. Then their turn is over and they disappear.

Kingdom 4th July 2009 05:32 AM

the thing about cl being in the spotlight - this is mostly yg. they do this with their groups, they did it with big bang for a while (with g-d always in the spotlight. but they've gotten better about it)

personally i love cl (but i love them all) so i don't mind her being in the spotlight. she's got great stage presence and korea seems to love her too. she's different than all the manufactured kpop stars today so.. :shrug

AyUta 4th July 2009 06:35 AM

I really like them now :). I like their new digital single :yes.

Corvina 4th July 2009 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by juicy (Post 2007710)
personally i love cl (but i love them all) so i don't mind her being in the spotlight. she's got great stage presence and korea seems to love her too. she's different than all the manufactured kpop stars today so.. :shrug

I agree, same goes for me. CL really has great stage presence and high self confidence. That's probably the reason she's the leader of the group, she's the one with the strongest character.
But I can see why some people are bugged by that. :laugh


Quote:

Originally Posted by Sundae
Ah okay. I thought you meant 2ne1 specifically. I can't say I noticed any really bad pictures of other celebrities. They usually wear makeup if they are going to be out especially if they have paparazzi following them around all the time Or they wear those excessively large sunglasses.

Really? You can see regularly bad photos or photos without any make up here, mostly from american or british celebs (Amy Winehouse anyone?) and it's nice to see them to be honest, so you know they're the same as you, they just have good stylists and know how to dress.^^

brand new love 4th July 2009 08:43 PM

i just finished watching 2ne1 tv (their subbers are so fast omg) and they are so cute! they seem rly down to earth too. i'm so glad we finally get to see them on tv doing something other than performing! :yes

Kingdom 4th July 2009 08:59 PM




for NE1 interested in seeing 2ne1 tv

hearted 4th July 2009 10:33 PM

hahahaah they were playing the BB game XDDD i always wondered if it was fun, guess it is :P they are really cute :laugh

Kaiouforever 7th July 2009 09:05 PM

I can't wait for the full minialbum to leak, I have high hopes for it, especially after hearing "I Don't Care"

minna 7th July 2009 09:17 PM

LOL at dara doing the crab in soy sauce xDDD

can't wait for the album too :yes

Kaiouforever 8th July 2009 03:03 AM

Where is my album? @_@

brand new love 8th July 2009 04:44 AM

the mini album is so good! the only song that i don't really like is let's go party.. it sounds kind of cheap lol. i love in the club and pretty boy, i hope they decide to promote it.

Sundae 8th July 2009 04:44 AM

IKR. I want the album. I can't wait to hear Pretty Boy. The instrumental used in the Inkigayo debut during the dance intro is Pretty Boy. I loved that so can't wait for the mini album and the album later in the year.

minna 8th July 2009 04:59 AM

yeah this is what I realised when I started to listen to Pretty Boy!
I only listened about 1 minute of each song, just to know what it looks like

it sounds good
it's obvious that I will need to listen to everything in order to judge

love in music 8th July 2009 05:23 AM

the only good songs on the mini album are FIRE and Pretty boy imo :/ the rest were very disappointing and boring

ka♡ri. 8th July 2009 05:59 AM

I only like Fire and I Don't Care. I might get used to Pretty Boy - but the rest is so bad. Way to underwhelm. >,> I hate when groups are hyped up so much and then just disappoint.

Kingdom 8th July 2009 06:35 AM

love the minialbum. pretty boy is HOT. stay together and in the club are pretty cute too.

looking forward to their album and perfs. 2ne1 fighting!!! :yes

freedreamer 8th July 2009 01:14 PM

In The Club is amazing!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Dara or CL's voice is so beautiful in the start..!!!!
Let's go Party is so mellow hahahah...but it still sounds really interesting...Reminds me...of what EPIK HIGH does...
Pretty Boy is <33 hahha...i loved that intro

ayuayu798 8th July 2009 04:42 PM

I like the album a lot! It's really good! I love Lets go party and In the club! Oh, and te enlgish lyrics are already out of their songs,except pretty boy,but I still think that it's pretty soon to get all those lyrics!

Sundae 8th July 2009 05:01 PM

I was expecting more songs like Fire instead I got more songs like I Don't Care. Not too many dance tracks. It's not a bad album, but I would have preferred more Fire like songs. I like Pretty Boy and Stay Together of the new songs.

I would like 2NE1 to do one of those intros that Big Bang does. I think they would be really good with them.

freedreamer 8th July 2009 05:59 PM

I got strong Big Bang "Lies" and EPIK HIGH vibes when I heard Let's go party...heh....it was an awesome feeling

Kingdom 8th July 2009 06:18 PM

Quote:

As of 5 PM in Korea, 2NE1's first mini-album was firmly at the top of both the Hanteo chart and the Cyworld chart, making day one of their sales a definite success.

http://www.allkpop.com/images/upload...chart_han2.jpg
i have a feeling they will be rookies of the year/best newcomers... :heart

brand new love 8th July 2009 06:22 PM

wow, i'm glad they're doing so well! they will definitely be rookies of the year, i don't think any other rookies this year are doing as well as they are.

Mr. Goto 8th July 2009 06:33 PM

i think i read on omona that it already sold 50k or something? that is insane congrats to them. this mini album was pretty good, like everyone else i really like pretty boy. stay together is my second favorite new song :)

i never knew they were releasing an album this year too? that's amazing i prefer albums so much more compared to mini albums.

Kingdom 8th July 2009 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand new love (Post 2013810)
wow, i'm glad they're doing so well! they will definitely be rookies of the year, i don't think any other rookies this year are doing as well as they are.

i don't know.... t-ara looks like pretty tough competition..... :roflmao

freedreamer 8th July 2009 06:38 PM

I seriously LOVE their songs...garhhhh....
i like the songs are different from FIRE and even I Don't Care...toned down...it shows they can really do MANY styles...

ayuayu798 8th July 2009 06:42 PM

WOW! The album doing so well sales wise!

ka♡ri. 8th July 2009 06:51 PM

The 50k is from preorders. :yes
i feel bad for the people who preordered it without knowing and got this. :(
i'm still very excited for Pretty Boy and I Don't Care live! :D

this year's gayo shows will be very interesting! too bad WG isn't here to put all of them into their place. :(

brand new love 8th July 2009 07:07 PM

the majority of their fans like the album, so there's no need to feel bad for the people who pre-ordered. :yes

ka♡ri. 8th July 2009 07:15 PM

i still feel bad because they haven't heard it. and then when they get it and listen, there are bound to be many who'll be disappointed! :yes

minna 8th July 2009 07:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ka♡ri. (Post 2013833)


this year's gayo shows will be very interesting! too bad WG isn't here to put all of them into their place. :(

I miss so much WG... we won't have something before 2010..
on the other hand I'm really happy it's going well for them here in america


I like the album but I'm not ''in love'' with it. I really like FIRE, I don't care, pretty boy and lollipop. Let's go party is not bad too

Kingdom 8th July 2009 07:25 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ka♡ri. (Post 2013853)
i still feel bad because they haven't heard it. and then when they get it and listen, there are bound to be many who'll be disappointed! :yes

i don't think so, a lot of the songs are topping the charts already. you and korea have very different tastes i guess!

aloopy 8th July 2009 10:13 PM

guys, their mini-album is hot! i've been listening to it non-stop ever since i downloaded it. i can totally see myself becoming a fan.

Stay Together and FIRE are probably my favorites. love the rest as well.

but what's up with korean artists and their mini-albums??:no full length album pls :D

ayuayu798 8th July 2009 10:39 PM

^ LOL I was thinking the same thing!

Sundae 8th July 2009 10:50 PM

Mini albums take less time and money to produce than an album. Maybe if things sold better in Korea they would invest the time to make a full album instead. Before it was mini album and next an album, but now I think they've gotten into the habit of releasing too many mini albums just to stay a float. YG has Se7en to support in US and Big Bang in Japan.

ayuayu798 8th July 2009 11:00 PM

That would make sense... It's a pretty smart strategy too!

freedreamer 9th July 2009 12:36 PM

Yes i LOVE this mini album too...small album but I dunno, it feels packed though...Of course they can do songs like FIRE...but for a debut, they showed their, fun, cute, serious, mature side all in this....

And the songs are definitely a grower...it feels a lot better after a few more listens...so I dont think people should be disappointed...

I bet if they do more FIRE...people might just put them off as Big Bang Female. Period.

Corvina 9th July 2009 12:37 PM

I love their mini-album, especially Pretty Boy is awesome!
But the rest is nice, too. Really a good debut.
Is it confirmed they will release a full length album this year?

ka♡ri. 9th July 2009 05:00 PM

^:yes
Probably towards fall!

And it turns out that the 50k preorders don't count!
According to Hanteo, the girls only sold 4k yesterday!

elepop 9th July 2009 05:20 PM

I still haven't download their mini album (internet limit...) but I saw the PV for "I Don't Care" and it's pretty awesome. The song is really catchy and I must say WAY better than "Fire". I really like CL's singing voice. Why does she sound so annoying when she raps? XD

ka♡ri. 9th July 2009 05:35 PM

I just finished the video too! Even though it looks just like Big Bang's Haru Haru/Lies (probably because it's the same director), it's so cute! I love Bom and Sandara so much~

CL does have a nice singing voice, but she tries to hard when she raps I think! She has three diff. voices: Her talking, her singing and then her rapping voice. :laugh

brand new love 9th July 2009 08:00 PM



CL's blonde streaked bangs.. :dead2

i like the MV, but it's not great or anything. the dance is really cute tho :yes

minna 9th July 2009 10:20 PM

CL has a beautiful voice when she sings and minzy too!
I liked the fact that at the end they showed bloopers XD

I really like the PV :yes

Kingdom 9th July 2009 10:45 PM

wowwww i love the pv! these girls are so... fierce! and i hate that word and when people use it but i have to for them.

god i love them! :heart

ayuayu798 10th July 2009 04:09 AM

the MV is cute! I like it a lot... I'm not a fan of CL's bangs though.

~Inori~ 10th July 2009 04:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by brand new love (Post 2015290)


CL's blonde streaked bangs.. :dead2

i like the MV, but it's not great or anything. the dance is really cute tho :yes

The MV was alright. I prefer Fire's MV. I didn't like I Don't Care at first but I ain't bad. One of my favorites.

I listen to the whole mini album. IT'S SO AMAZING. Pretty Boy is :love

Mr. Goto 10th July 2009 04:42 AM

The mv was cute i like it. They will be performing this on tv soon right? can't waiiiiit

~Inori~ 10th July 2009 06:34 AM

^They're performing it today (July 10). So we should get the performance later on in the day.

Sundae 10th July 2009 06:53 AM

The video was okay. The first time I saw it I didn't know what was going on. There were a couple of fan service types scenes. More time with the girls, but the scenes move fast so it's hard to catch it. Is it me or does the video scenes move faster as the video goes on?

I still like Fire more than I Don't Care, but I'm starting to appreciate it after the noise of Fire. The song is really laidback so I'm hoping to still see some great stage presence from them.

Kaiouforever 10th July 2009 09:18 AM

I love this mini album! I am truly impressed - 2NE1 is the breakout group of the year imo.

hayasaki 10th July 2009 11:30 AM

I'm definitely inlove with their Mini-ALBUM! Oh my...

Favorite Tracks...

FIRE
I DONT CARE
and IN THE CLUB.

and i felt so strange
when i heard Dara speaking
Filipino on LETS GO PARTY!

haha. Fun!

Corvina 10th July 2009 12:15 PM

Nice video!
I like the song more now after seeing the video.
I like the dance, but overall it could have been a little bit brighter, it's so dark considering the summer vibe of the song.
I didn't recognize CL singing until I saw the video. XD
Her singing voice is great.

Quote:

Originally Posted by ka♡ri. (Post 2015128)
^:yes
Probably towards fall!

Oh, I'm looking forward to it! :yes
I hope it's as good as the mini-album.

freedreamer 10th July 2009 12:55 PM

HAHA that MV was funny. Playful 2NE1...but the costumes look like they redesigned their FIRE live costumes and wore them again HAHAH...
i found the scenes very jumpy...they could have focused on at least ONE of them for more than 3 seconds..
it made me like the song more :)

~Inori~ 10th July 2009 01:19 PM

Pretty Boy


I Don't Care

ayuayu798 10th July 2009 01:56 PM

^ The the performace is amazing! I love pretty boy!

ka♡ri. 10th July 2009 03:11 PM

it was good. the chair part was cool but way too short!
Bom and Dara look so cute, but the others. :no
And they're still not too good live. They need some work omg. :no

minna 10th July 2009 04:09 PM

I think the performances were really nice
personally, I think that their vocals were really good
but I agree for the chair part, it should have been longer :yes

ka♡ri. 10th July 2009 04:10 PM

^I watched it again. And you're right. They were pretty good! Even Dara got better! :yes It's still not too great yet though. :(

And c'mon with some new outfits....please~

freedreamer 10th July 2009 04:25 PM

Pretty boy was FANTASTIC omg...Bom look tired while dancing HAHAH...especially during her part but i think the others all rocked it... :P

I don't care was great!! It's so nice to here CL singing and Dara singing better than in the song

Corvina 10th July 2009 04:32 PM

Pretty Boy is too short! :weep
They sound really good in those performances, much better than in earlier ones.
CL looks great with open hair, she should wear it more often. Dara, too!
It can't be helped, I just love them. :laugh

brand new love 10th July 2009 07:55 PM

i love the performances, they sound really good! they're improving so much :yes dara actually surprised me, she sounds like she's singing instead of talking with rhythm.

btw, they all did their own solo performances at sketchbook.

Spoiler:







~Inori~ 10th July 2009 08:28 PM

They have improved especially Dara.

Loved the Sketchbook performances. Well, I didn't like Bom's she wasn't singing just screaming.

Kaiouforever 10th July 2009 08:56 PM

So awesome!!!

Is it just me, or did Bom miss a high-five at 3:37? xD

Kingdom 10th July 2009 09:53 PM

wow! their perfs are so good. cl is so pretty with her hair down like that!

the sketchbooks were awesome too. minkki is so good at dancing, i'm jealous :thud

dara's was kinda lame tho but shes sooo cute

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaiouforever (Post 2016811)
So awesome!!!

Is it just me, or did Bom miss a high-five at 3:37? xD

you can hear the slap, she didn't miss it :o



2ne1 tv!!

AyUta 11th July 2009 03:21 AM

I love their mini-album! It's really good :luv2. I'm glad to see they're doing amazingly well on the charts, even better than SNSD. Amazing.

Corvina 11th July 2009 11:13 AM

Those Sketchbook performances are great!
Especially Bom impressed me, you can't tell she's shy anymore.
And Minji...how old is she? 15? Damn, her dancing is so sexy. XD
Dara is the weakest for me. But the song is just weird. o.O

love in music 11th July 2009 12:24 PM

i really liked the Pretty boy performance :yes.. I don't care had really really bad vocals though

~Inori~ 11th July 2009 01:19 PM

2NE1 practicing 'I Don't Care' Choreography


ayuayu798 11th July 2009 03:21 PM

^ Thanks for always sharing! I love the donce moves! I wish I could dance like that!

Kingdom 11th July 2009 07:48 PM

a mtv korea poll compared 2ne1 and 4ne1 4minute!

http://i29.tinypic.com/rc4sq1.jpg

well, that was shocking. :shrug

brand new love 11th July 2009 08:04 PM

i love the choreography for i don't care, it's so cute :yes i hope they release one of those videos for pretty boy.

~Inori~ 11th July 2009 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by juicy (Post 2018136)
a mtv korea poll compared 2ne1 and 4ne1 4minute!

http://i29.tinypic.com/rc4sq1.jpg

well, that was shocking. :shrug

Of course 2NE1 was going to win. But why are they comparing them?

brand new love 11th July 2009 11:38 PM

everyone (including koreans) are comparing 2NE1 and 4minute because they're both rookies i guess. the comparisons will stop soon enough, people just like to create fake drama between girl groups. :shrug


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