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ImpactBreaker 18th February 2003 06:35 AM

To both sides, or whatever side you are LOL:

It's not immature to express a feeling you feel while looking at that cover. I bet everyone, even the ones who don't admit it thought at least once in the cover: "Are the Ayus about to kiss?" "Is Ayu a narcissist or want to show she loves herself very much?" "Does Ayu want to imply anything about the same sex having a relationship?" "Hmm there is possible other interpretations for that cover. what would it be?"
These are thougts that pass in ANYONE's mind....If you think i'm lying just go and show that cover to your mother and ask what's her opinion, and ask other people too.
Some people are taking it to a more sexual side because it is a ballads cd. Ballads are often romantic songs that talk about 2 person s loving each other.
For the others who see it in a different way, it's just a way of thinking. Nothing will tell the real purpose of that cover unless there's an official explanation of it, so if you see that cover as like the 2 Ayu's aren't to kiss themselves and is something completely different don't go on holding the world in your hands as if you were the guardian of truth.
I'm not saying if the cover is disgusting or if it's pretty but those question SURELY comes to ANYONE'S mind. That's what probably makes some feel more uneasy than other. This is a forum for discussion but it's also a forum for respect! You people can not agree with others opinions and show where are the flaws in that but to use these opinions to directly hurt the person who posted it is unforgivable in my opinion and that's what some are doing here!
SO CALM DOWN EVERYONE!:)

Ibitsu Kokoro 18th February 2003 06:54 AM

Many people don't find gay/lesbian relationships disturbing. Many do find it disturbing. I am not saying that I am against gay/lesbian relationships. It just made me really uncomfortable when I saw this cover. The ayu we know is not lesbian. There is not a logical explaination for the cover right now, so I think we should stop guessing.

Biscuitgirl 18th February 2003 06:56 AM

Okay, impact! You are our PEACEMAKER/PEACEWEAVER/MOTHER!

ImpactBreaker 18th February 2003 06:58 AM

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Originally posted by biscuitgirl
Okay, impact! You are our PEACEMAKER/PEACEWEAVER/MOTHER!
Mother?:rolleyes :rolleyes :rolleyes LOL:laugh :roflmao :laugh

Biscuitgirl 18th February 2003 07:02 AM

Ayu should have posed with Nagase in that pose. Now that's a cover I would have liked to see.

skyline 18th February 2003 07:23 AM

he he... this cover remind me of that anime Chobits (Dark Chii and Chii face to face and kissing). I can see many are disturbed by the new cover. But that not signs of lesbianism.:cool

PinkSock 18th February 2003 07:44 AM


Geez. I didn't think that so many people would dislike the cover... I think it's gorgeous!
and it's cute too! and funny in a way because it can be interpreted so differently.
Oh well. I think it's awesome.

jxxxxxxxxxxxxx 18th February 2003 08:01 AM

theres really no sexual suggestions to this cover at all. if there are, youre putting them there yourself.

ive layed that close to someone and not kissed them. maybe you have yet to experience love like that? so you misunderstand.

and maybe, the physical interaction between the two is just a nifty way to show off such a cool special effect.

if this cover is offending you or making you uncomfortable, its possible that youre a little more conservative and/or homophobic than you think. and if thats the case, youre letting it get in the way of appreciating a very beautiful and loving image.

Biscuitgirl 18th February 2003 08:22 AM

Aye, you're jumping in there a little late, bud! :laugh

ImpactBreaker 18th February 2003 08:25 AM

Well the discussion can still go on when the forum gets crowded again LOL:laugh

Biscuitgirl 18th February 2003 08:30 AM

I guess so! This thread has only been up a day and already has gotten much debate! Controversial cheers to the the debatably most controversial Ayu album yet: A Ballads!

trainspotter01 18th February 2003 08:32 AM

lol
ppl have diff opinions......so be it~

biscuitgirl: why is this album controversal when we first heard it?

Ayuspeed: oh so u find me disturbing lol!

fantaisie.sign 18th February 2003 09:05 AM

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Originally posted by jxxxxxxxxxxxxx
ive layed that close to someone and not kissed them. maybe you have yet to experience love like that?
Hurray for you. Been there and still am.

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if this cover is offending you or making you uncomfortable, its possible that youre a little more conservative and/or homophobic than you think. and if thats the case, youre letting it get in the way of appreciating a very beautiful and loving image.
Again, people are giving titles to people that they don't even know including everyone in the forum who dislikes the picture. If I (or others) are supposedly homphobic, then why would I like tATu? I myself am an art freak in a variety of ways and think that all art is beautiful no matter what it is, yet I'll stand by my position as it being a provocative image. Plus it's not yours nor anyone's position to label people that you don't even know just because they have opinions contrary to your liking.

skygunner 18th February 2003 09:33 AM

les

jxxxxxxxxxxxxx 18th February 2003 10:02 AM

biscuitgirl says: "Aye, you're jumping in there a little late, bud!"

since when is there a limit on when someone can add their opinion? would you have said that to anyone who would have posted next, or are you just holding a grudge?

chibinina4 reports: "Again, people are giving titles to people that they don't even know including everyone in the forum who dislikes the picture... ...Plus it's not yours nor anyone's position to label people that you don't even know just because they have opinions contrary to your liking."

i dont get it. you quoted my words yourself in big bold print. you could NOT have missed the words "it is possible..." but i guess you did.

i wasnt calling anyone anything. you dont have to lecture me on "its not your place to label people." 'cause i didnt.

but if youre the type of person to see the words "homophobia" and "conservative," and immediately defend yourself (when your not even a target) then maybe its a little too defensive for somebody whos not those things. get my drift?

so ill stand by my opinion too: this is a beautiful image. im very proud of ayumi hamasaki posing for such a cover, knowing how controversial it could be. whether it was her own idea or not, she's very brave. can that be agreed on (at least)?

uraayu25 18th February 2003 11:05 AM

I find that the cover looks special, although it looks abit weird..........:rolleyes

sunny 18th February 2003 01:59 PM

i'm also a bit :shrug

the :comfort cd cover is shocking....

well, may be on ayu's point of view that's her way to express what "love" is....

but her expression is so..... :D

hmm.. i thought this cd release is only a rumor...
well, lets wait and see for it's selling achievement

EdenZone 18th February 2003 02:22 PM

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Originally posted by ImpactBreaker
Well the discussion can still go on when the forum gets crowded again LOL:laugh
yup... agree !!!! :roflmao

boogieordie 18th February 2003 02:41 PM

Chibi -
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It's not that the cover is bad, but it is provocative and controversial no matter how you look at it.
Obviously not, others have more than said the don't see that. So there are other ways of looking at it.


biscuitgirl -
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Ayu should have posed with Nagase in that pose. Now that's a cover I would have liked to see.
Now that I could see as being sexual. So what's the problem with the cover? That it's too "sexual" or that it's two girls?

Ashley

SpiceSquad! 18th February 2003 03:53 PM

Dunno like the cover at all.
 
personaly..i dunno like much the cover of AYU 'a ballads'.
i was very shock to see the cover (although there still no official cover confirm) of AYU new album. Its kinnda weird to see AYU on the cover. As AYU fan i don't have any negative thingking about the album cover, but what i scare of is about people (non AYU fan) opinion about the cover of the album. People always have negative mind if their see something odd or weird on famous star.
If AVEX is smart enough, i bet AVEX will change the covers.
:weep


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