HEy I just checked Wiki n Secret broke 800k!
I dun noe why but it really did
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Secret_...asaki_album%29

it is impossible...

It's probably the avex numbers, not oricon numbers.

^Yep. Someone in the avex numbers thread said they were going to change it.

its a good news however

It's true but... how? :/ look
Secret: 665,845 (+138,155)
Black Cherry: 989,848 (+470,152)
http://i156.photobucket.com/albums/t...so/Imagen1.png
Maybe oricon forgot some important shops or something...

maybe its the amount shipped from avex?

YE..maybe

Same. This avex number matches the RIAJ certification (3x Platinum) and we already know that the RIAJ counts the number of copies shipped.

well, who would ship 804 k .... why not 805 k :P.Maybe these are just the total sales, including the HK, Taiwan etc. ones, as AVEX is releasing those in other countries as well.On the other side they seem a bit rounded as there isn't a single one that doesnt have 0s after the . XD

I'd just like to point out that Oricon isn't 100% accurate:

Naturally, merchandise released from only excepted markets cannot reach to the chart. For example, debut single of the idol group called NEWS was released at 7-Eleven only (any convenience stores haven't added to registered shops), and did not climb to chart. Before leading of POS, result of the charts had depended on Faxes which had sent from record shops. The announced sales of materials by the Oricon are only an inferential value, not completely accurate one.

And can someone tell me why BLUE BIRD's ranking went from 322000 to 349000 from the 3rd trimester of 2006 into the 1st of 2007? Even if it is shipped copies, that means more stores must have ordered more copies of the single right? Which means the ones IN the stores must have been selling or sold out, right? The same thing happened for Secret

From what I see, avex first reported BLUE BIRD at 322k on Jun 30th, 2006. They then reported that the single was at 349k on Sept 30th, 2006. Since the single was released on 6/21, I think the slight increase is understandable.

oh sure, they are so inaccurate that they easily missed 1/3 of Black Cherry's sales. and of course, on the contrary, it is not like the album is sitting on shelves with the limited edition still not being sold out. obviously kuu has bought herself 500.000 copies just to increase sales numbers which don't even appear on oricon. that's marketing, ftw.

^ LOL. But i think Ayu's new single will be a come back single! she may just take the current crown again

Erm.. Actually, I don't believe these numbers by avex. Oricon seems to be far more reliable.

But why would the number go up like that? If they shipped 322k and the single only sold like 250,000 then why would they even need to ship another 25k? Wouldn't the 322k have already been more than enough?

Some stores probably did not have get enough copies while other stores probably had too many copies.

it broke 1000.000.... in my mind

As I said, those COULD BE THE TOTAL SALES including Hong Kong, Singapore, Taiwan etc.And that would be a reason why ORICON's numbers are lower.And btw most of the other record companies do release the total sales, take TOSHIBA EMI for example.