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keikeiaznqueen 12th August 2009 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 2057141)
Generally those sales are undeniably still good they will affect ayu (well avex) with a great profit.
If it will manage to sell 130,000 (like R/S) or 115,000+ it will be really good since it will sell similar to namie's single (who just had a million and a half selling album). The only three who passed that are YUI, ayu (with D/G that is considered 2009 in oricon year and is the 2nd best selling single by a female artist this year) and that enka singer with ai no mamade that has the best selling single by a female artist of this year.

We can see that female artists didn't so much great with singles this year.
That's why if S/S will manage 115,000+ in total it will be great since averagely it seems to be the new great, or at least above average for female singers with singles.

So D/G will be on the 2009 single ranking, right? I remember YUI fans rejoicing that YUI's single "again" surpassed Ayu's R/S as in terms of sales in 2009 and is now the best-selling single by a female artist this year. :P I suppose they weren't counting oricon year. I feel oddly happy about that.

I'm still hoping that S/S won't go by the halving formula for her other single sales though. Since there wasn't first press for this single, perhaps the 2nd day sales will be higher. THEN going by that and making a prediction:

36k --> 26k --> 15k --> 9k --> 9k --> 7k = 102k

I tried to be very optimistic with the dropping numbers. 2nd day numbers were inflated just because I hope they will be high. :P YUI's 1st two days were really really good. If only Ayu went from 36k to 34k.

On a side note if we did the usual halving though:

36k --> 18k --> 9k --> 9k --> 9k --> 7k = 88k

njanjayrp 12th August 2009 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Rocky Raven (Post 2057140)
Rule/Sparkle is a Good single and the songs are Amazing. =/ It has the right to have higher sale. What make u LMAO about that? Am I wrong sayin' it's better than this horribly boring single?

Yes Rule/Sparkle was better imo as well, but that doesn't mean it sold because it was better, talkin' 2 myself was the best single she released since HEAVEN (imo of course), but it's among her lowest selling singles. The quality of the music doesn't necessarily mean good/huge sales.

Yeah YUI had FMA2 tie-in and I am hoping Sunrise/Sunset will have more stellar sales, but it would be good if it could sell as much as "again" in it's first week.

Sunrse/Sunset is doing well digitally :)

a_kingdom21 12th August 2009 01:52 PM

hope it wont drop so fast tomorrow....

ayumisrael 12th August 2009 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by keikeiaznqueen (Post 2057218)
So D/G will be on the 2009 single ranking, right? I remember YUI fans rejoicing that YUI's single "again" surpassed Ayu's R/S as in terms of sales in 2009 and is now the best-selling single by a female artist this year. :P I suppose they weren't counting oricon year. I feel oddly happy about that.

Here is your answer.

The top 50 list of the 50 best selling singles by far of 2009 oricon year:

Solo female artists are bolded


*1 *,652,779 ***,398 Believe/曇りのち、快晴 / 嵐、矢野健太 starring Satoshi Ohno 09/03/04
*2 *,615,710 **1,131 明日の記憶/Crazy Moon~キミ・ハ・ムテキ~ / 嵐 09/05/27
*3 *,471,667 **1,448 愛のままで… / 秋元順子 08/01/23 累計633,063
*4 *,399,995 **2,991 Everything / 嵐 09/07/01
*5 *,377,097 ***,*** RESCUE / KAT-TUN 09/03/11
*6 *,358,508 ***,484 ひまわり / 遊助 09/03/11
*7 *,331,248 ***,*** ONE DROP / KAT-TUN 09/02/11
*8 *,282,515 ***,374 恋のABO / NEWS 09/04/29
*9 *,265,187 ***,882 THE MONSTER ~Someday~ / EXILE 09/04/15
10 *,234,968 *21,733 THE HURRICANE ~FIREWORKS~ / EXILE 09/07/22
11 *,233,252 **1,697 たんぽぽ/海賊船/其の拳 / 遊助 09/06/24
12 *,231,122 ***,*** 弱虫サンタ / 羞恥心 08/12/10
13 *,226,530 *10,991 悪魔な恋/NYC / 中山優馬w/B.I.Shadow/NYC boys 09/07/15
14 *,215,981 **1,778 Stand by U / 東方神起 09/07/01
15 *,210,510 ***,*** 約束 / KinKi Kids 09/01/28
16 *,202,885 ***,770 化身 / 福山雅治 09/05/20
17 *,190,891 ***,*** Days/GREEN / 浜崎あゆみ 08/12/17
18 *,180,600 180,600 イチブトゼンブ/DIVE / B'z 09/08/05
19 *,173,914 **2,648 浪曲一代 / 氷川きよし 09/02/04
20 *,161,699 *10,606 妖 ~あやかし~ / 堂本光一 09/07/29
21 *,159,782 ***,702 again / YUI 09/06/03
22 *,158,284 **1,416 Don't say "lazy" / 桜高軽音部 09/04/22
23 *,157,210 **1,272 Share The World/ウィーアー! / 東方神起 09/04/22
24 *,147,947 ***,*** 今宵、月が見えずとも / ポルノグラフィティ 08/12/10
25 *,142,495 **1,171 Cagayake! GIRLS / 桜高軽音部 09/04/22
26 *,141,804 ***,649 明日がくるなら JUJU with JAY'ED / JUJU 09/04/29
27 *,140,340 ***,756 遥か / GReeeeN 09/05/27
28 *,139,082 ***,578 涙サプライズ! / AKB48 09/06/24 
29 *,130,816 ***,*** Rule/Sparkle / 浜崎あゆみ 09/02/25
30 *,124,219 ***,*** 歩み / GReeeeN 09/01/28
31 *,119,352 ***,*** WILD/Dr. / 安室奈美恵 09/03/18
32 *,111,266 ***,*** 鏡花水月 / The SHIGOTONIN 09/02/04
33 *,110,717 ***,*** Bolero/Kiss The Baby Sky/忘れないで / 東方神起 09/01/21
34 *,107,374 **2,019 安芸の宮島 / 水森かおり 09/04/01
35 *,105,426 ***,413 嘘 / シド 09/04/29
36 *,104,173 ***,*** 10年桜 / AKB48 09/03/04
37 *,103,431 **6,348 泣いてもいいですか / フレンズ&ヘキサゴンオールスターズ 09/07/15
38 *,102,577 ***,*** 虹 / コブクロ 09/04/15
39 *,102,007 ***,*** milk/嘆きのキス / aiko 09/02/18
40 *,101,422 ***,*** SAY YOUR DREAM / GLAY 09/03/04/
41 *,101,016 ***,*** ワンルーム・ディスコ / Perfume 09/03/25
42 *,*99,429 ***,*** It's all Love! / 倖田來未×misono 09/03/31
43 *,*98,322 ***,*** 逢いたい / ゆず 09/04/22
44 *,*97,861 **1,089 七夕祭り / テゴマス 09/07/08
45 *,*97,352 ***,*** 刹那 / GReeeeN 09/03/11
46 *,*95,834 ***,*** Survivor / 東方神起 09/03/11
47 *,*94,378 ***,601 Journey through the Decade / Gackt 09/03/25
48 *,*89,752 ***,*** I am xxx / GLAY 09/05/25
49 *,*87,178 **2,006 3 SPLASH(Lick me/ECSTACY/走れ!) / 倖田來未 09/07/08
50 *,*84,250 ***,455 Love Forever / 加藤ミリヤ×清水翔太 09/05/13

KarenPang 12th August 2009 02:00 PM

that time when YUI's again was released , all her fans rejoiced in that she had the highest 1st week sales attained by a female solo artiste & NOT the total sales that again has accumulated so far

I should add that again's her 2nd best selling single , the 1st being Goodbye-days

anyway I hope Sunrise/Sunset will do well . I can't comment about Morning Museume at all since I don't listen to them

TITANIC 12th August 2009 02:00 PM

I've just realizedcrazy boyband shuuchishin doesnt release anything for almost 9 months.. where are they..hahahah

this year is better. last year no any female solo singer stay on top 10singles

KarenPang 12th August 2009 02:03 PM

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Originally Posted by riozz (Post 2057235)
I've just realizedcrazy boyband shuuchishin doesnt release anything for almost 9 months.. where are they..hahahah

this year is better. last year no any female solo singer stay on top 10singles

Shuchishin has been disbanded since this Jan with 1 of them called Yusuke flying solo

you can see his 1st 2 solo singles in the top 50 chart & I like both singles of him despite the fact that I don't plan to listen to Shushichin at all

*1 *,652,779 ***,398 Believe/曇りのち、快晴 / 嵐、矢野健太 starring Satoshi Ohno 09/03/04
*2 *,615,710 **1,131 明日の記憶/Crazy Moon~キミ・ハ・ムテキ~ / 嵐 09/05/27
*3 *,471,667 **1,448 愛のままで… / 秋元順子 08/01/23 累計633,063
*4 *,399,995 **2,991 Everything / 嵐 09/07/01
*5 *,377,097 ***,*** RESCUE / KAT-TUN 09/03/11
*6 *,358,508 ***,484 ひまわり / 遊助 09/03/11
*7 *,331,248 ***,*** ONE DROP / KAT-TUN 09/02/11
*8 *,282,515 ***,374 恋のABO / NEWS 09/04/29
*9 *,265,187 ***,882 THE MONSTER ~Someday~ / EXILE 09/04/15
10 *,234,968 *21,733 THE HURRICANE ~FIREWORKS~ / EXILE 09/07/22
11 *,233,252 **1,697 たんぽぽ/海賊船/其の拳 / 遊助 09/06/24

Cantabile*Ultimae 12th August 2009 02:06 PM

Glad it placed no. 1. Lets hope it stays that way ^_^

ayumisrael 12th August 2009 02:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KarenPang (Post 2057236)
that time when YUI's again was released , all her fans rejoiced in that she had the highest 1st week sales attained by a female solo artiste & NOT the total sales that again has accumulated so far

I should add that again's her 2nd best selling single , the 1st being Goodbye-days

anyway I hope Sunrise/Sunset will do well . I can't comment about Morning Museume at all since I don't listen to them

But YUI's again first week was 110,602 and Day/GREEN 127,650.
And both on the 2009 oricon year. Unless if they wanted to make it 2009 in normal year.

TITANIC 12th August 2009 02:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by KarenPang (Post 2057238)
Shuchishin has been disbanded since this Jan with 1 of them called Yusuke flying solo

you can see his 1st 2 solo singles in the top 50 chart & I like both singles of him despite the fact that I don't plan to listen to Shushichin at all

*1 *,652,779 ***,398 Believe/曇りのち、快晴 / 嵐、矢野健太 starring Satoshi Ohno 09/03/04
*2 *,615,710 **1,131 明日の記憶/Crazy Moon~キミ・ハ・ムテキ~ / 嵐 09/05/27
*3 *,471,667 **1,448 愛のままで… / 秋元順子 08/01/23 累計633,063
*4 *,399,995 **2,991 Everything / 嵐 09/07/01
*5 *,377,097 ***,*** RESCUE / KAT-TUN 09/03/11
*6 *,358,508 ***,484 ひまわり / 遊助 09/03/11
*7 *,331,248 ***,*** ONE DROP / KAT-TUN 09/02/11
*8 *,282,515 ***,374 恋のABO / NEWS 09/04/29
*9 *,265,187 ***,882 THE MONSTER ~Someday~ / EXILE 09/04/15
10 *,234,968 *21,733 THE HURRICANE ~FIREWORKS~ / EXILE 09/07/22
11 *,233,252 **1,697 たんぽぽ/海賊船/其の拳 / 遊助 09/06/24

oww reallY??
I dont realize about that..
althought they were disbanded their solo sales still thumbsup

aura~ 12th August 2009 02:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by keikeiaznqueen (Post 2057218)
So D/G will be on the 2009 single ranking, right? I remember YUI fans rejoicing that YUI's single "again" surpassed Ayu's R/S as in terms of sales in 2009 and is now the best-selling single by a female artist this year. :P I suppose they weren't counting oricon year. I feel oddly happy about that.

I'm still hoping that S/S won't go by the halving formula for her other single sales though. Since there wasn't first press for this single, perhaps the 2nd day sales will be higher. THEN going by that and making a prediction:

36k --> 26k --> 15k --> 9k --> 9k --> 7k = 102k

I tried to be very optimistic with the dropping numbers. 2nd day numbers were inflated just because I hope they will be high. :P YUI's 1st two days were really really good. If only Ayu went from 36k to 34k.

On a side note if we did the usual halving though:

36k --> 18k --> 9k --> 9k --> 9k --> 7k = 88k


Koda with 3 SPLASH has sold 87K in 3 weeks with a 3 a-side single and 3 PV and multiple verions with gift, etc... so looking at that it seems great if ayu can do that in only 1 week with S/S.... no? ^^


It's not a super single... I hope it will do like R/S ^^ I'm happy she is the 1st pop female singer in the list of best selling singles yearly ^^

ayumisrael 12th August 2009 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by walking.proud (Post 2057248)
Koda with 3 SPLASH has sold 87K in 3 weeks with a 3 a-side single and 3 PV and multiple verions with gift, etc... so looking at that it seems great if ayu can do that in only 1 week with S/S.... no? ^^


It's not a super single... I hope it will do like R/S ^^ I'm happy she is the 1st pop female singer in the list of best selling singles yearly ^^

3 SPLASH sold it in 5 weeks.

aura~ 12th August 2009 02:27 PM

^even worse XD

~Inori~ 12th August 2009 02:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 2057242)
But YUI's again first week was 110,602 and Day/GREEN 127,650.
And both on the 2009 oricon year. Unless if they wanted to make it 2009 in normal year.

They count it as a normal year. Same goes with GReeeeN, they have the highest opening of the year even though Mr. Children's album, which was released on the 2009 Oricon year, opened with 707,000.

maze 12th August 2009 03:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by walking.proud (Post 2057248)
Koda with 3 SPLASH has sold 87K in 3 weeks with a 3 a-side single and 3 PV and multiple verions with gift, etc... so looking at that it seems great if ayu can do that in only 1 week with S/S.... no? ^^


It's not a super single... I hope it will do like R/S ^^ I'm happy she is the 1st pop female singer in the list of best selling singles yearly ^^

kumi has nothing to do here!

freedreamer 12th August 2009 03:20 PM

haiz...it actually didnt win people over yet???..

rakeru 12th August 2009 03:22 PM

technically, i was expecting 20k, so this far exceeded at least my expectations! i just hope it exceeds t2m-- i remember when we all thought that would do so well....

waterballoon 12th August 2009 03:36 PM

Sunrise WILL NOT be halved on the 2nd day! WOO~

There's hope, honestly!

ストロボ・EdGE 12th August 2009 03:38 PM

That's... pretty low ( :( ). Well Mirrorcle World sold less in it's first day and it reached almost 200,000 so lets hope for the best?

brener 12th August 2009 03:52 PM

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Originally Posted by ストロボ・EdGE (Post 2057300)
That's... pretty low ( :( ). Well Mirrorcle World sold less in it's first day and it reached almost 200,000 so lets hope for the best?

agree with you but...


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