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~StarCatcher~ 20th July 2011 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Heavenly Zerase (Post 2720191)
I think the problems with Ayu releases are that fans have their expectations soooo high. For example, when Ayu releases a "not-that-good" song everyone notices and the criticism is high. But for example when Koda releases a random song (for example "For you" from Gossip Candy) everyone talks about hiw gorgeous the other song is, without caring about the random song. Ayu has a "Diva Status", so everyone is expecting ultra expensive PVs and glamorous covers. I also expect more from Ayu, and when a not-that good song comes i think is worse than it actually is. So i decided to not have enormous expectacions for FIVE, i will let Ayu be a "normal" artist (even if I'm sure I will enjoy FIVE)


I think it's the same with Kumi and For You got critizised, too for not being thaaaat good.
So not only Ayu has that status;)

Minttulatte 20th July 2011 11:47 AM

^I personally adore for you because it's so summery. :D

And I've also decided not to expect too much from Ayu. I did so with Love songs and RnRC and noticed how amazing both albums were. It's a good way so I'll do the same with FIVE. :)

Partino 20th July 2011 11:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heavenly Zerase (Post 2720191)
I think the problems with Ayu releases are that fans have their expectations soooo high. For example, when Ayu releases a "not-that-good" song everyone notices and the criticism is high. But for example when Koda releases a random song (for example "For you" from Gossip Candy) everyone talks about hiw gorgeous the other song is, without caring about the random song. Ayu has a "Diva Status", so everyone is expecting ultra expensive PVs and glamorous covers. I also expect more from Ayu, and when a not-that good song comes i think is worse than it actually is. So i decided to not have enormous expectacions for FIVE, i will let Ayu be a "normal" artist (even if I'm sure I will enjoy FIVE)

BRAVO !!! I couldn't have said it better. +1

Nackar_91 20th July 2011 12:03 PM

A good way to minimize expectations about a new release is to not read through every post in the news topics as well! I know this is a weird thing to say on an internet forum XD, but when I only read up on posts containing information and ignored the rest for quite a few recent releases, I didn't get influenced by all the posts already praising it in the heavens, or all the posts that hated it from the get-go, or all the criticism about the covers and the promotion, and all the overly positive "AWESOME" posts. I mean, sometimes it's nice, but they do mess with the way you yourself view a product.

Anyway, I loved this release, and then when I checked back most people hated it. I'm pretty sure that if I had read through the topic I would've been much more negatively inclined towards the release...

chu-lips 20th July 2011 01:38 PM

nothing leaks yet...
i cant wait to this album,,,,

ayumisrael 20th July 2011 04:19 PM

It will only be released in 1 month and 2 weeks from now XD

BlackSilence 21st July 2011 02:28 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Heavenly Zerase (Post 2720191)
I think the problems with Ayu releases are that fans have their expectations soooo high. For example, when Ayu releases a "not-that-good" song everyone notices and the criticism is high. But for example when Koda releases a random song (for example "For you" from Gossip Candy) everyone talks about hiw gorgeous the other song is, without caring about the random song. Ayu has a "Diva Status", so everyone is expecting ultra expensive PVs and glamorous covers. I also expect more from Ayu, and when a not-that good song comes i think is worse than it actually is. So i decided to not have enormous expectacions for FIVE, i will let Ayu be a "normal" artist (even if I'm sure I will enjoy FIVE)

hmm I think since Ayu joined Avex, it's not entirelly about Ayu anymore. She became a part of the company. It becomes sort of a team work, if they have profesionals working everything should look good. I mean yeah tastes are tastes but somehow from such a huge company as Avex I expect better artistic stuff than I see now. Like if you have a great thing then represent it nicelly too and do the job 100% till the very end, details are also a part of the overall look and just as importaint as the main thing. But that's just my point of view...

RayJason 21st July 2011 03:05 AM

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Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 2720336)
It will only be released in 1 month and 2 weeks from now XD

Yes!!! I am so excited :D

clover_bali 21st July 2011 07:15 AM

I hope Leslie Kee as photografer from this mini album, Leslie is my favorite ayu's photografer, if Leslie do it, ayu's album always looks gorgeous, example MY STORY.

I hope FIVE cover album will make with indoor photoshot concept, in a studio. I were borred with outdoor photoshoot for her album. Time by time, from GUILTY to Love songs.

nanakopy87 21st July 2011 08:02 AM

leslie will shoot for the covers + 1 of the PV

Zeke. 21st July 2011 08:50 AM

What are some photoshoots that Leslie has done for Ayu? I want to know why everyone has always been so damn obsessed with him and his work he has done with Ayu...

Aderianu 21st July 2011 10:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeke. (Post 2720865)
What are some photoshoots that Leslie has done for Ayu? I want to know why everyone has always been so damn obsessed with him and his work he has done with Ayu...

http://img845.imageshack.us/img845/6085/lesliekee.jpg

Mirrorcle Monster 21st July 2011 10:30 AM

Her album/ single covers have been gorgeous, but some magazine photoshoots are terrible

roanmy 21st July 2011 10:51 AM

I had no idea he did RAINBOW and SECRET, they are some of my favorites!
Though I still prefer Shimoko's covers (Days/GREEN, NNEXT LEVEL, MW, A BEST 2).

Aderianu 21st July 2011 11:20 AM

Leslie tries to show full Ayu's body
Kazu - only face

Keiichi_JPU 21st July 2011 11:37 AM

She's been on the cover of VOGUE and GQ? I didn't even know that, anyone knows where I can find scans, especially GQ?

!Lawi! 21st July 2011 11:50 AM

http://ayumifanparadise.free.fr/?alb=200

Here you are for VOGUE, but I didn't konw either for the other one...

AyUmIXx 21st July 2011 12:03 PM

wow thankss aderianu for the huge collection of Leslie's photoshoots!
she looked gorgeous! i love seeing her smile like that~~
so i hope Leslie will tell her how bad it looks on her lately lolsss~~
Kazuu u better stay away from ayu a little way~~ haha XDD

pommy48 21st July 2011 12:05 PM

Haha I wonder how Kazuyoshi is feeling right now? His favorite diva is gone :laugh

Heavenly 21st July 2011 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Keiichi_JPU (Post 2720917)
She's been on the cover of VOGUE and GQ? I didn't even know that, anyone knows where I can find scans, especially GQ?

VOGUE Taiwan 2002 ::
http://ayumifanparadise.free.fr/?alb=417

GQ Taiwan December 2002 ::
http://ayumifanparadise.free.fr/?alb=383

ayumisrael 21st July 2011 12:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aderianu (Post 2720911)
Leslie tries to show full Ayu's body
Kazu - only face

Which makes me optimistic, we didn't get a non face focused album cover since NEXT LEVEL. xD

Keiichi_JPU 21st July 2011 01:42 PM

Thanks for the scans !Lawi! and Heavenly!

sanzo2011 21st July 2011 04:07 PM

Love all the Leslie works except for some magazine shoots!

SpiceSquad! 21st July 2011 04:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Aderianu (Post 2720887)

Thank you!!:love

but stillll i hate SECRET covers.. to much star and something wrong with her face..:grumpy

bambibethy18 21st July 2011 05:05 PM

Dang nice pics Aderianu :D

kalikagai 21st July 2011 05:09 PM

Ohh, I really hate Startin's cover... it's sooo tasteless...

clover_bali 21st July 2011 05:14 PM

i think... startin/born to be is very simple and tasteless but very glamorous!
wowa! A BALLADS tehnique very very fantastic!

Zeke. 21st July 2011 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Aderianu (Post 2720887)

Thanks. Not really many of my favorite Ayu photoshoots in this collection, but some of my favorites are here (A BALLADS, MY STORY (not the actual covers, I hate those but the rest of the MY STORY shoot, especially the rocker stuff is some of my FAVORITE, the curly haired ones are pretty (the first magazine posted), Daybreak is nice, the INSPIRE cover is nice, and the ayu-mi-x long black hair is gorgeous.

But still, there have been a lot more Ayu photoshoots I love but right now I don't have the ambition to go and hunt them down but I appreciate the fact that you did Aderianu!

Corvina 21st July 2011 06:28 PM

Leslie Kee did god and bad works with Ayu, like any other photographer. :shrug
The only really good thing is that he tends to shoot her whole or partly body, like somebody says, so the chances are high we're getting a more complex cover again. :yes

kiseki89 21st July 2011 07:12 PM

This time the cover will be done by Leslie Kee?
I cant wait to see the cover

Beauty4123 21st July 2011 07:26 PM

so covers will be done by leslie kee, along with one PV being directed by him as well? i can't wait to see how everything turns out, now. :D

Minttulatte 21st July 2011 07:32 PM

I like Startin' / Born To Be... covers personally and don't find them tasteless at all. <3 Actually I hope she would have more covers like it. Especially with that awesome long, dark brown (m)u hair ;______;

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Originally Posted by Heavenly (Post 2720929)
GQ Taiwan December 2002 ::
http://ayumifanparadise.free.fr/?alb=383

Gorgeus photoshoot :luv2

kalikagai 21st July 2011 07:47 PM

^ she looks cheap and vulgar on Startin' cover, it's so hooker'ish, imo. That's why I hope FIVE cover will be way different... :)

thatstacey 21st July 2011 08:05 PM

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Originally Posted by drdolce (Post 2721099)
I like Startin' / Born To Be... covers personally and don't find them tasteless at all. <3 Actually I hope she would have more covers like it. Especially with that awesome long, dark brown (m)u hair ;______;

But didn't you notice that you could see her legs?? And then she has the audacity to smile?! Clutching my pearls, tbh!

Really, all I want out of FIVE is a CD+DVD cover without duck-lips. I don't think that's an unreasonable request...

njanjayrp 21st July 2011 08:14 PM

Most of Kee's work that he's done for her covers has an actual concept which is a good thing~

ayumisrael 21st July 2011 08:16 PM

I hope he will work with her on her next original album as well.

njanjayrp 21st July 2011 08:39 PM

^ me to, RAINBOW and A BALLADS are her best album covers imo and & is prolly my fave single cover.

koumori 21st July 2011 08:45 PM

I'm looking forward to the covers for FIVE even more, looking back at his previous works with Ayumi. :) Thanks for posting so many Anderianu.

noisy_harmony 21st July 2011 09:20 PM

A BEST is my favorite Ayu cover ever, but yeah, RAINBOW and A BALLADS would be close.

Huaka 21st July 2011 09:23 PM

Don't forget that photobook thing he had with all those other stars and she looked like some kind of... snow queen/nature goddess.

Heldin 21st July 2011 09:49 PM

Wow, I didn't know, that Leslee did so many photoshoots for Ayu. She looks amazing and even gorgeous on most of them!!

jbrat2219 21st July 2011 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by agita1988 (Post 2721111)
^ she looks cheap and vulgar on Startin' cover, it's so hooker'ish, imo. That's why I hope FIVE cover will be way different... :)

What are you looking at? :shakehead

It can't be the same picture that was posted! :laugh

JackieRos 22nd July 2011 01:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thatstacey (Post 2721124)
Really, all I want out of FIVE is a CD+DVD cover without duck-lips. I don't think that's an unreasonable request...

+1 I agree

tokyoxjapanxfan 22nd July 2011 03:39 AM

I'm sensing an album cover where she's smiling. Or maybe that's just my hope... haha

susiowong 22nd July 2011 03:47 AM

I'd like to see something other than her just smiling because that's what was on the last album cover.

yamadashun 22nd July 2011 03:49 AM

i dunno why many people hate Startin' cover but i feel she is so gorgeous on it! maybe i like her in black long hair.

i love Memorial Address photoshoot series. i hope FIVE will have the similar awesomeness, since both are mini albums.

SURREAL__RAINBOW 22nd July 2011 03:57 AM

even that obviously not all his works might be perfect, you all have to recognize that he knows how to identify beauty and compose good pictures!

He is one of the best people out there with good eye to compose photographs ever :P Something that for example kazuyoshi doesn't have, since he thinks photoshopping (eg.flower background photoshopped on those S/S covers) would fix everything when he lacked of something lol :rolleyes

Also, look at the colours Leslie uses, and the lightening, the angles, etc... just beautiful.

truehappiness 22nd July 2011 04:07 AM

You also have to look at his other works with other artists as well. They tend to be rather breathtaking and full of movement despite being still images.

I really wonder when they'll reveal covers~

Kazeyomi 22nd July 2011 04:15 AM

Maybe I'm one of the fews who really thinks Kazu isn't that bad as photographer :laugh.
Leslie and Kazu are just.. different :shrug and they work in a different way either.
If Leslie works are more 'natural looking' Kazu ones are more 'fake plastic looking'. Even Leslie had bad works imo as for Kazu.
People should focus more on good works and not bad ones imo. I'm not saiying Kazu is my favourite photographer ever but he's obviously not a incompetent. BUT if you're asking me of my favorite photographer I'd choose ND Chow :heart

SURREAL__RAINBOW 22nd July 2011 04:25 AM

Don't get me wrong though, I also like Kazuyoshi lol

Kazeyomi 22nd July 2011 04:28 AM

^
oh, :laugh I misunderstood sorry.

SURREAL__RAINBOW 22nd July 2011 04:32 AM

It's okay :P I totally agree with what you said btw.

They're different, and I was just comparing one thing that I thought it was good about Leslie.

I still love Kazuyoshi's futuristic Asian works and most of his pictures are amazing :yes
I also love Mirrorcle World, GREEN & Sparkle xD :love



ND Chow is awesome too!! :D

AyumiAi 22nd July 2011 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by yamadashun (Post 2721314)
i dunno why many people hate Startin' cover but i feel she is so gorgeous on it! maybe i like her in black long hair.

i love Memorial Address photoshoot series. i hope FIVE will have the similar awesomeness, since both are mini albums.

haha same startin is one of my favorite covers I think she's stunning in it!

Zeke. 22nd July 2011 05:10 AM

Kazu definitely has more photoshoots that I love. Some of my absolute favorite magazine shoots are done by him.

HEAVEN~Destiny~ 22nd July 2011 05:31 AM

For me, I would like to see five different Ayus that each represent the style/theme of each of the five songs on the cover, or even the booklet. Kinda like ayu-mi-x II..

Maybe that's just me :)

YUKARI 22nd July 2011 05:40 AM

I can't wait for covers! >.< I hope it will be something cheerful like & cover.

chu-lips 22nd July 2011 06:31 AM

i miss ayu tv appearance...
it's kinda off topic..
but why does ayu have no tv appearance lately...

truehappiness 22nd July 2011 06:39 AM

There's been no reason for her to appear on TV... no new material~

She should appear a few times for FIVE though, lol.

Also, fun fact. ND CHOW used to work as an assistant for Leslie before branching out on his own! I guess it was because they were both from SG working in Japan as photographers... or something. This was back in '01 / '02 though.

love in music 22nd July 2011 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by agita1988 (Post 2721111)
^ she looks cheap and vulgar on Startin' cover, it's so hooker'ish, imo. That's why I hope FIVE cover will be way different... :)

I suggest getting your eyes checked and also looking up what hooker means at http://www.dictionary.com. There isn't anything vulgar or "hookerish" about them. Her expressions are very tame and all that's showing are her gorgeous legs & arms in modest poses.

adantatu2 22nd July 2011 07:22 AM

i can't wait for the covers!! i expect something sexy and classy, and obviously a cover without weird expressions or fish lips.
And idk why you hate the covers for Startin', i think they are pretty good (and we can see her legs and not only her face)

YuriChan 22nd July 2011 07:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by agita1988 (Post 2721111)
^ she looks cheap and vulgar on Startin' cover, it's so hooker'ish, imo. That's why I hope FIVE cover will be way different... :)

What's so vulgar, cheap, and hookerish about them? O.o I think they're elegant and sexy (done tastefully well).

SURREAL__RAINBOW 22nd July 2011 07:33 AM

I actually never knew some people hated the Startin' covers O___O Firstly because everyone loves that hairstyle, and she looks gorgeous in them, happy, radiant, etc. :shrug Oh well LOL

NintendoHTF1242 22nd July 2011 07:33 AM

The Startin'/Born To Be... covers are so flawless. Haters to the right plz.

bluegie 22nd July 2011 07:44 AM

I think S/BTB cover is pretty, but not unique somehow.

Miduhyo 22nd July 2011 08:11 AM

Oh my gosh, the Startin' Covers are my most favorite Ayu covers (next to Memorial Address. I just adore that cover -- i got it on my wall!) She's soooooooooo beautiful in it. The hairstyle is great. She looks so happy. I just love it!

kalikagai 22nd July 2011 10:04 AM

ok-ok, the opposite opinion is just shutting up :)

the3ye 22nd July 2011 10:22 AM

i love offtops...topic about mini album, and discussion about Startin' covers! YES!

Rebirthia 22nd July 2011 11:09 AM

what's strikes for me with S'/BTB cover is you can perfectly see a natural thigh, the way you would seen it laying around at home, in front of TV, in pijama (nor fur obviously), that's the way a woman's body is. I'm not saying that's bad. I'm saying it's not usual.

And yes, Leslie seems to focus on her body, so I'm pretty sure we'll get Ayu's body in the new covers...

pommy48 22nd July 2011 11:12 AM

I love Leslie's photoshoots because he just knows how to work with Ayu. Not only does he focus on the entire body, but most of his picture involves movement too :luv2

toniayu 22nd July 2011 11:29 AM

I had a dream with the covers...they had grey tones and were really gorgeous *O*

yamadashun 22nd July 2011 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Miduhyo (Post 2721421)
Oh my gosh, the Startin' Covers are my most favorite Ayu covers (next to Memorial Address. I just adore that cover -- i got it on my wall!) She's soooooooooo beautiful in it. The hairstyle is great. She looks so happy. I just love it!

:yes:yes:yes

Minttulatte 22nd July 2011 11:44 AM

lol, what a war my opinion on Startin'/Born To Be covers... started. XD She's just being sexy there. What's wrong with that? :)

brener 22nd July 2011 11:45 AM

gosh, shame on me... i didnt even notice that all the tracks will have promotional videos!! thats awesome

sanzo2011 22nd July 2011 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by SURREAL__RAINBOW (Post 2721412)
I actually never knew some people hated the Startin' covers O___O Firstly because everyone loves that hairstyle, and she looks gorgeous in them, happy, radiant, etc. :shrug Oh well LOL

This! CD+DVD ver's ok but CD ver 's masterpiece!

Aderianu 22nd July 2011 02:44 PM

maybe Ayu use one of them at cover
http://img163.imageshack.us/img163/9159/346848573.jpg

ayumisrael 22nd July 2011 03:08 PM

Hopefully that wig he's looking at! I love it!

I think I know him... isn't he a hair dresser?

Aderianu 22nd July 2011 03:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayumisrael (Post 2721579)
Hopefully that wig he's looking at! I love it!

I think I know him... isn't he a hair dresser?

it's Jun Yoshida from ISM

Pieces_of_SEVEN 22nd July 2011 04:26 PM

OK, definitely getting CD+DVD, but do I get CD regular or CD limited edition? I don't really know if the limited is worth it...I'm sure I'll never play Tales. Never played any of them.

Hm...help me out here lol

PS kinda want the acoustic version of beloved

Aderianu 22nd July 2011 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN (Post 2721620)
OK, definitely getting CD+DVD, but do I get CD regular or CD limited edition? I don't really know if the limited is worth it...I'm sure I'll never play Tales. Never played any of them.

Hm...help me out here lol

PS kinda want the acoustic version of beloved

I think if you not going to play game, no need to have limited edition

AyumiAi 22nd July 2011 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN (Post 2721620)
OK, definitely getting CD+DVD, but do I get CD regular or CD limited edition? I don't really know if the limited is worth it...I'm sure I'll never play Tales. Never played any of them.

Hm...help me out here lol

PS kinda want the acoustic version of beloved

But you can always download the acoustic version but you can't download the limited tales of cover :p that was reasoning for getting the limited as my second version

brener 22nd July 2011 05:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Aderianu (Post 2721567)


i loved the wig he's lookin at *--*

Aderianu 22nd July 2011 06:12 PM

^it looks red )

SpiceSquad! 22nd July 2011 07:03 PM

arrggghhh

"Show us the coveeerrr" oh please oh please :thud

ohsixthirty 22nd July 2011 07:58 PM

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Originally Posted by SpiceSquad! (Post 2721679)
arrggghhh

"Show us the coveeerrr" oh please oh please :thud

well, the mini album comes out august 31 so i think we still have some weeks till we see the cover. :(

JackieRos 22nd July 2011 08:10 PM

I love startin' covers. Most amazing thing is her brown hair omg I die


That wig is gorgeous I hope she uses it!

Aderianu 22nd July 2011 08:25 PM

^maybe if not for covers, but for some magazine photoshoot...

Zeke. 22nd July 2011 08:46 PM

Startin' covers aren't ugly - they are just boring. Thinking off the top of my head, I think they are the most boring covers/photoshoot she ever had.

Pieces_of_SEVEN 22nd July 2011 08:52 PM

^^Sunrise?

thatstacey 22nd July 2011 09:06 PM

^ Sunrise/Sunset is many things, but I wouldn't say "boring" is one of them lol. It's like the horrifying gift that keeps on giving--whether you want it to or not.

I personally think MOON/blossom, Crossroad, and Moments are among her most boring covers. The only thing Moments really has going for it (for me) is a thematic tie-in to the PV. That's something I really miss in her recent single covers. Especially in 2010, the single covers looked like an afterthought or a desperate attempt to latch on to the latest trend instead of part of a cohesive package.

In my book, Startin'/Born To Be... is redeemed by that beautiful smile. :love

Aderianu 22nd July 2011 09:10 PM

leave all covers offtop in this thread )

jbrat2219 22nd July 2011 09:38 PM

What constitutes as a boring cover? Like what does she need to do for it to be interesting?

*Petit* 22nd July 2011 09:59 PM

I think bold and delicious is one of her most "off" and boring covers, doesen't realte in any way to the song and looks like the least stand out pics of a photo shoot.. IN fact most of the single covers leading up to Mss understodd and miss understodd itself were pretty bad (STEP you.. or lord and those album covers) or bland (Heaven and B&D). Except fairyland.

Pieces_of_SEVEN 22nd July 2011 10:12 PM

nothing could be worse than &

Zeke. 22nd July 2011 10:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thatstacey (Post 2721734)
^ Sunrise/Sunset is many things, but I wouldn't say "boring" is one of them lolI personally think MOON/blossom, Crossroad, and Moments are among her most boring covers.

Exactly what my response would have been, haha.
MOON/blossom is pretty boring too. crossroad is just gaudy and totally does not match the song itself. Moments I really like because Ayu looks gorgeous and at least it's not just a blah background (like one color).
Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 2721745)
What constitutes as a boring cover? Like what does she need to do for it to be interesting?

Well it's just like "here I am with a fur rug wrapped around my body sitting on a black background *smile*"

rakeru 22nd July 2011 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Pieces_of_SEVEN (Post 2721757)
nothing could be worse than &

*gasp* :(

Pieces_of_SEVEN 22nd July 2011 10:38 PM

I'm kidding. that's blasphemy. & is one of my favorite covers lol


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