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Damn I was in middle school when HEART STATION came out. I'm now 21 and in college lmao the years really do fly by.
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You're still young... :yes
Are we talking about age now? lol. I was 19 when I entered hikki's world, and now I'm 34... sigh time goes really fast... And I used to think Niji iro bus as a kiddy song, but not anymore. I have to play this song at least once during spring time everyday. |
I get depressed with the later part of that damn song! That's not a kiddy song seriously lol
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I love listening to the karaokes. It's great when you hear an instrument you didn't hear before, or some unwritten english lyrics. (with the karaoke of keep tryin' being my favorite example) |
I was 10 when I first started listening to Hikki and I was 12 when I listened to ayu, I'm 25 now
My uncle gave me First Love for my birthday ^.^ |
What's everyone's opinion of Distance? I think it's her weakest album but it does have some jams.
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For me her weakest albums are This Is The One followed by First Love. Distance may not be in my Top 2 or 3 Hikaru albums, but has a lot of nostalgia for me and classic R&B tracks.
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^^^If you ask me, yes it's her weakest album. It does have really good songs (mostly the singles).
I think my opinion towards the album was affected by First Love. I was in love with FL and I kept my expectation high for her second album (it was like almost two years between FL and Distance, and back then it was considered a long break for me). I remember I received the album about a month after the release (my friend bought it for me). My first impression was that the album wasn't as interesting as I expected to be. I admit that it has more variety compared to FL when it comes to R&B, but the flow is not that good compared to the former album. I think when two albums were on the similar basis, it attracted comparison easily. Back then I think the majority thought FL was better than Distance. (This is just like UB vs HS, both using synth instruments as main arrangements). In addition, ayu released A BEST at the same time and my bro felt that A BEST was more interesting than Distance (lol). I dunno, it didn't wow me as much as when I received Duty (it was a hype half a year ago before Distance). But then, when she released DEEP RIVER, it was totally a wow to the JPoworld. Before she announced the album, the hype wasn't that high. Hikari was three weeks no. 1 but the overall sales was like around 550K (not that high according to her standard back in 2002). Even when SAKURA drops was premiered on radio, I thought it was a boring song. Then all of the sudden she got sick, every promotion was canceled, and Japanese was so concerned about her health. Then about a week or two before SAKURA/letters was released, Toshiba announced DR. Then the cover came out and everyone was so hyper (I admit that even tho the cover was just black and white, it was way better than Distance's cover). DR is really a masterpiece in my opinion... lol Quote:
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I always thought take 5 and boku ha kuma were supposed to represent reincarnation or something. atleast that's what I got from the songs playing back to back. take 5 being about death and the abrupt ending representing your life ending all of a sudden, and then boku ha kuma being about a light hearted children's song and being young and innocent again.
I really loved that they were together on the album. I thought it was like telling a story. Quote:
Monday to friday monday to friday everybody feels the same everybody feels the same Hell, I'm looking at the english lyrics to the song now. the entire thing is about "I hate it here, get me the fuck out of this place." Quote:
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I wrote an essay on here about the themes of Heart Station. There's a lot of melancholy in Niji Iro Bus ( ore however it's spelt) to me, almost kind of bitter sweet?
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^ were you the one who wrote about how the album basically flows and then she dies but is reborn? That's essentially what made me love HS above all her other albums.
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Utada: "Imma make them bop their head to this undercover $h!t. Hey, daddy zane, gimme a "whoa whoa", up pitch that betch and rep a rainbow. They don't know this song is my resignation. What's Japanese for Hiatus?" Daddy Zane: Where you going? Utada: France. ~(͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)~ Daddy Zane: No you not. Island Def Jam called. They said, "loooooooooool" |
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Yeah that was me. I'm glad you love HS :) |
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About Take 5... There was speculation about it being about suicide or something but I thought that rumor was debunked. It turned out to be about "taking 5 minutes from reality" - just laying back and kind of escaping for a short time from all the chaos and stress of daily life. The abrupt ending represents a return back to reality and the chaos of it all. "Snapping out of it", that tranquil state within your mind. I love that take on it because that's often what music is to me. Or when I used to smoke and step outside to put on my headphones and for 5 minutes just relax and escape into the environment of the music. |
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Take 5 is an interesting song because she's explained that the main influence was about a children's book dealing with a state that is like death, that book is translated as Night on the Galactic Railroad. I read it as a child, and it always stood out to me, so I can see why she was influenced by it |
I was under the impression that Teiku 5 was about the upside to death. Not necessarily suicide, but the positives when you do eventually die.
No more pressure. No more expectations to measure up to. No more obligations. Just nothing. Peace. Then Utada left us. lol Another song where she was telling us something. |
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Utada giving me the feels. |
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Edit: found it! http://www.ahsforum.com/forum/showpo...&postcount=106 I really think you should expand this Zahara, with any further insights you have. It would be a very interesting read all over again lol |
Oh wow! Thanks for finding that, I didn't realize I wrote that post up so long ago. I might just listen to HS again and expand on that.
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I always loved the Take 5 -> Boku wa Kuma theories. They're always so interesting and shows Utada's craft.
I also loved your explanation on Beautiful World; because that song finally clicked with me after watching Rebuild of Evangelion. |
These are the moments that makes Utada an exeptional artist in JPOP world. She's more than just a singer/arranger. I love it when she applies poetry and art to her songs.
Anyone her love the opening narration on Deep River MV? I love it to death. Sometimes i have to wonder if Hikki's a deep person or just someone happy with a kuma by her side LOL |
I love that opening too. It's beautiful.
Now that I think about it, I think k&c kind of is hurried. The lyrics are all over a place, and it reminds me how we're kind of rushing throughout the day that we don't take time to actually talk and relax. But I'm kind of not sober, so lalala! |
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Kiss & Cry is honestly one of my least-favorite Utada songs. The bass is killer but like idk; there's nothing that really catches my attention. I love the self-sample but like idk LOL I just don't like that song at all.
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^I concur. I almost always skip. Can't believe it's one of my faves fave. Then again, her favorite Ultra Blue track is the worse one as well.
I remember before HEART STATION came out and Utada was updating us on her progress via her blog and she mentioned how she was really digging this funky song she made and bopping her head to it. That song was Kiss & Cry. Quote:
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OMG I used to hate it because of that bass. But I adore the verses in their kind of ironic somewhat uplifting way of mocking monotony. The chorus is a joy to sing too, as her voice is so hopeful despite the reality of the situation. Those somewhat retro-esque synthesizers are heaven too.
I listen to it now and it's strange how much I initially loathed the song. For me, it is one of my favs and what I consider on of her bests. Also, if you actually like the ballad version of Flavor of life then all your opinions on what constitutes good are null and void. |
It's the song everyone considered as proof that Utada could still get krunk and produce music heralding back from her R&B days.
Until they heard her go completely thug in Prisoner of Love and realized they were wrong. Bai, Felicia. |
I always wondered. Does kiss and cry sample some old 1940's/50's jazz swing song, or is it just made to sound like it samples an old song?
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Is it the case that it sampled a song?
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Random thought: Isn't Uso Mitai Na I love you's chorus like THE EXACT COPY OF Simple and Clean's one?
The other day I listened to it for the first time and when the chorus kicked in I was like "Wait, did I switch to simple and clean?" |
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Oh okay so she did it on purpose! Thanks for the explanation. I couldn't get over how similar they were, was going crazy XD
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I recall her saying how some of the melody for Hikari was difficult to translate into Simple and Clean, so for the chorus she took that piece of Uso Mitai Ni chorus and substituted Hikari's chorus. It made it easier to sing in English.
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I thought it was the other way around. Simple and Clean made first, then when she wrote the Japanese lyrics, it didn't fit with the melody. So she re-composed the chorus for Hikari. In the end she used the original melody to create Uso mitai na I Love You...
Hmmmn.. I need to check. :P Edit: I found both explanations online. So I dunno. I just remember she talked about that in 2003 when releasing COLORS... |
Simple and Clean wasn't made first as far as I can tell.
Utada: Uh-huh. Well, from the beginning, yeah, before doing that contract, I'd done a few songs where I had to translate, like for Kingdom Hearts, I had to make an English version of the song "Hikari," which became "Simple and Clean," and then also for Kingdom Hearts II, I had to make the Japanese version which was the song "Passion" and then the English version that was "Sanctuary," and that was so hard, it's just, and it felt strained, and as a result, I'm happy that I worked hard to do those, because those English versions are really good and "Simple and Clean," I think, is a really good song, and people- most of the people that know me here, they know me for that- but it's not ideal for me as a writer, to- because, actually, I changed the melodies for "Simple and Clean" and "Hikari," because when you change the language you're singing in, the same melodies don't work- and as a writer, it's just very frustrating to have, like- I wrote these melodies for Japanese words, and to have to write in English for that, it's just not right. And then, so, for this, uh, this contract with Island Def Jam, in the beginning I separated it to this English language album, and I don't do Japanese translations. I just, my integrity as an artist just would not take that, could not take that. |
Oh my god is that a verbatim transcript because jesus christ girl needs to complete a sentence. She sounds like a SNL sketch.
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Thanks for the explanations, that's interesting. Switching languages is not easy when it comes to sing, it's true that the same melodies don't work anymore, so I can understand her point in changing it. And LOL, she really can't complete a sentence straight XD
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simple and clean has the chorus instrumental of that japanesjapaneseILOVEYOU!! song from Deep River (or is it on distance) and not hikaris original instrumental for those who did not know that.
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Man, I remember having Uso mitai na I LOVE YOU on one of the first ~japanese mix CDs~ my friend ever made for me back in 7th grade and loving it soooo much. Along with Play Ball. :laugh Which would have been right around the time Deep River came out, now that I think about it. I've never even bothered listening to Simple and Clean or Sanctuary just bc I thought the Japanese versions were flawfree and had no interest in them...but now I'm kind of curious about Simple and Clean!
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I miss the energy of y'all in this topic. I wish she would just announce something already so we can go back to talking about it for a page and then start discussing her hair or whatever we talk about lmao
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I remember random J said that the cover of HS looks like Utada's channeling her inner (butch) lesbian and that she has an organ failure.
Ironically HS is my fav album cover from her. |
The cover was really nice, but the photos inside were not that great.
DEEP RIVER's cover was excellent, and the inner photos (including the foot) were great lol :D. |
^The foot should have been the album cover.
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That's the hawttest album cover I've ever seen.
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Foot fetish Kween
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OMG...no comment o.O
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Does anyone know what's going on with Hikki, is she in Italy or Japan?
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HS has a better cover than Ultra Blue (imho). I'm not saying its a BAD cover, but she has more life in the HS cover (or at least in expression). Quote:
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We have officially run out of topics. |
At least we're not comparing her back covers ;). And maybe she will release a new song since the new EVA movie will be released this year rite?
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If she really used her foot pic as the cover tho, it would be a fantastic piece of art :D. |
^ I've been praying all year for the possibility of a new song. This b**** teases new music and then goes back to hiding
Maybe we should talk about her back hair I mean back covers. Mines still HS because I'm biased and pissed that this trick isn't giving us new music. What is she, bjork. |
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For the record, Deep River and Ultra Blue have great back covers. |
LOL so we're really talking about the back covers now :D This should be the very first time we talk about her back covers haha.
And I agree that DR and UB have great back covers :yes. There are only three back covers we can compare though (Distance is the only other one with hikki at the back). |
That's why I was like what the fuq is there to compare?!
Y'all wanna talk about which tour you like best? There are only 2 of 'em. GO. lol |
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There's more than 2. She (barely) has more concerts than albums (7 japanese/english albums versus 8 concerts or "performances". I know unplugged isn't a concert, but I'm throwing it in there because why the hell not?). Quote:
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I don't consider those all tours. Oh well.....
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^we're working with what we have! lol
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Wild life because it's the only one I watched and I watched it on Blu ray.
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I bet she is going to comeback in the Olympics Game of Tokyo ;)
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She's too lazy for that.
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Ugh she's never coming back.
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I think all fans should record themselves singing "Come Back To Me" and we can splice it together showing all types of individuals across the globe calling out for her return.
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Me in the background with a wig on. |
^You're hot !
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^^ WaiT...
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looooooooooooool necrophilia wat?
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A little bit OT but, my ideal dream for 2020 Tokyo would be a surprise collab between the J-Pop queens, just imagine :heart Spoiler:
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We could lip-sync it. :D
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We gotta get ha back somehow lol
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BABY COME BACK TO ME
I'LL BE EVERYTHING YOU NEED GHERL, YOU'RE ONE IN A MILLION (copies sold of the smash hit single, Automatic/Time Will Tell) |
*one in 7.6 million
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I think it will be hard to beat this record :shimmy
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Action starts at :30. |
That guy's voice......
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Yeah of course we'd just dub the song over the videos audio, essentially muting the original voice and just doing a lip-sync type media project.
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I wouldn't be able to participate because of my hatred for Come Back To Me lol.
Although I would like some more Hikaru music I feel like, unlike with Olivia, that she is going to come back sometime. We don't know when but there will come a time where we will be buying the new Hikaru Utada album! |
Does ANYONE like Come Back To Me? I don't see it being in anyone's top 10 list, lol. It's gross.
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Objectively, it's a pretty awful song lol
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It is awful imo like like below generic lol
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I prefer the SINR remix of the song though. |
this one (crying like a blah blah) shouldv been the lead single of this is the one.
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She should've hammed up the Asian US college student thing more instead of akward tortured jpop artist |
I've been listening to HS again. It's so nostalgic I can't handle it!! Especially Beautiful World.
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^I get the Nostalgia when I listen to Ultra Blue and Exodus. So many dear moments I spent with Ultra Blue honestly. One of my ties to my early teen years.
Can Hikki please come back and slay all of these basics. The stage has been set. This is the year bihh. Normally I'm satisfied with ayu. But I just need more out of this year. Ai was great...but still not Hikki levels. I'm probably getting hyped for nothing tbh though. Maybe in a couple years we'll get some Distance demos. *sigh* |
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The question is other
Do you have any "This is the one" song in your top 10 Utada? daartttyyy deeesiiireeee~~~~~aaaaa aaahh aaa And what the hell does the cover for this album stands for? Utada dressed like a bear? |
^Dirty Desire is my favorite song off that album
Not only because of the lyrics, but because I really like her vocal delivery. It's such a great song to sing along while your driving or working out. I've done both hahahaha |
Assuming we're not counting bonus tracks (because let's be honest, no song on this album can even hold a candle against Simple and clean, and Sanctuary) my favorites off the album are apples and cinnamon, this one, dirty desire, FYI, and On and on. Also Taking My Money Back deserves an honorable mention, it's pretty solid.
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