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Andrenekoi 3rd March 2016 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Delirium-Zer0 (Post 3187699)
I actually HATED that about much of HLS. I didn't like how far back she was on the stage, how the dancers were the main performers and she was just providing the soundtrack.

I don't mind that ayu does "shows" instead of "concerts," I just kinda wish she alternated between the two. Sometimes I wanna see a show - DOME TOUR was freaking unbelievable - but sometimes I get sick of that and I wanna see Ayumi Hamasaki Performing Her Songs Live which is very different obviously. The only chance anyone's had for that have been like, the early shows of PoM 2011 which she never released, Secret Live which she never released, and her TeamAyu tours which were open only to her fan club members who were physically in Japan (and the 2003 one took 5 years to get even a partial DVD release, which really only got us better quality than the internet stream, no new material because the encore still wasn't included).

My favorite tours are the stripped-down and lower-budget ones just because at least I can find Ayu on stage during those...

The DVD edits of the bigger shows are AWFUL about this too, because they're edited to show the crowd & dancers more than Ayu... If you skip to a random frame of any Ayu concert, the likelihood that Ayu is visible in it is MAYBE 20-25%.

I guess as I see the whole concert as her production and as her vision, I don't care when I can't see her (what I do for 90% of the performance) because in the end of the day what is happening on stage still is the realization of her vision and of her art.

Still, I can get why people dislike that concert, I only find it interesting that even if tons of pop musicians (and even indie and "artisier" ones) try bending theater and music concert, most of the time the result is pretty superficial, while HLS is basically filled if great theater moments.

MessiahofSilence 3rd March 2016 11:30 PM

I kind of like a blend of concert and show, but I'd love to only have Ayu by herself onstage for half of a concert.

DonkeyKongRemix 4th March 2016 12:05 AM

After six years of totally loving this album more than any other, I FINALLY got Love Songs. I don't know why I waited so long but oh well. When NEXT LEVEL came out, I listened to it none stop and to me, it was the best thing ever. Love Songs, though, really was powerful when it came out and I still think it is one of her best albums EVER.

Her voice is very nice in tracks such as crossroad and MOON.

I can't rant on enough about this damn album....UGH it is making me so happy. Maybe my winter depression will go away now that I have this. <3

(I keep wanting to post while listening to my CD)

I like how Thank U is kind of like a really long interlude, IMO. I never liked that song much before but it is actually kind of cool. A lot of the songs have great melodies and awesome background music. Sweet Season has an awesome melody, too. It's so relaxing and her voice is really pretty. I never noticed just how pretty her voice was on that song.

tokyoxjapanxfan 4th March 2016 07:59 AM

Though I super duper complained about PoM when I first heard the concept (I was bitter about having no Love songs tour more than anything) it's become one of my favorites.

I listen to the forgiveness live recording quite often and it was a very rare opportunity to see such a tour.

Aderianu 4th March 2016 08:02 AM

I forgot how cool blossom is

//ABEST 4th March 2016 10:07 AM

i liked blossom way more than i liked MOON when they were released but now MOON feels more like me

MessiahofSilence 4th March 2016 03:55 PM

I'm surprised that I actually remember blossom, since it's a total album track to me.
Love Songs is great as a whole. The standouts for me are:
*Love Song - reminds me of Rainbow Ayu for some reason. The guitar is perfect.
*Crossroad - My personal favorite of the albums/singles. Love the lyrics.
*Moon
*sending mail
*virgin road

That's basically it. The album has its own identity and I enjoy that, even if I may not listen to it often. I'm more of a Rock N' Roll Circus fan anyway.

primavera♥ 4th March 2016 04:26 PM

No not blossom lol. No more blossoms. That is one of the few songs in ayu's disco that I just can't get into. Good song. Just really hard to listen to for some reason. The rest of Love Songs is godly though

Gustavopc 4th March 2016 05:05 PM

^ That's Sweet season for me, it's the only song I skip on Love songs. And yes I adore Thank U and I am proud of it :laugh

MessiahofSilence 4th March 2016 05:14 PM

^ sweet season is ambien in musical form :P
Thank U isn't bad, but the " LA la la LAAAAAAAs" make me feel like I'm in purgatory.

DevilsClap 4th March 2016 05:34 PM

I listen to Thank U more than Sweet Season as well.
MOON, Last Angel and sending mail are my favorite tracks on the album though.

NintendoHTF1242 4th March 2016 09:34 PM

I LOVE the part in sending mail where she raises her voice. It's in the pre-chorus. Idk how to describe it but the melody and the way she executed it was spot-on.

Heavenly 4th March 2016 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by primavera♥ (Post 3187808)
No not blossom lol. No more blossoms. That is one of the few songs in ayu's disco that I just can't get into. Good song. Just really hard to listen to for some reason. The rest of Love Songs is godly though

I don't listen to blossom anymore, but instead I listen to the Clockwork Yellow Remix. It's soooo good it makes me forget about the original !

Zeke. 4th March 2016 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by nalini-dahlia (Post 3187737)
I like how Thank U is kind of like a really long interlude, IMO.

Didn't she say this song was originally supposed to be an interlude? Or maybe people just commented it sounded like one. I think she did some interview on the album though and mentioned it?

I'm basically the pickiest and most critical person when it comes to music, so when I have come to like tracks that others find loathsome, it's strange. Sweet Season and blossom are two examples of that.

Sweet Season, although at first I hated it, have come to thoroughly enjoy it. I think if you find the right context to listen to it within, then you will come to accept it as it is, and find it perfect for said context. In the case of this song, it's very mellow, soothing, relaxing, reflective, and easy-going. It's certainly not "showy" at all, which is what I think so many people hate about it. But I find it's perfect for at the end of an early-autumn day, when the sky's hue is a mixture of burnt oranges, faint yellows, and tinted pinks. When the sun is beginning it's descent, and it's rays are being reflected off the gently shimmering leaves of beautiful but dying foliage. When you're driving in the car, maybe returning from a days trip, and it's just you, the road, and the journey back. Play this track, during this time of day, and maybe you will learn to appreciate it's hidden beauty.

blossom is a song I have loved since the beginning, and never understood how anyone could dislike it. It's the summer ayu track that broke the monotony of fairyland, BLUE BIRD, glitter-type tracks. It went for a more organic, crisp feeling (rather it's a spring-time or cool summer's day track vs the former which are better for hot days). Actually, a better way to describe it in contrast with tracks like fairyland, BLUE BIRD, glitter, and even Sunrise (which evoke celebratory feelings), is that it's very comforting. The gentle sadness that it alludes to is now being comforted in present day. I got this even prior to looking at the lyrics. Additionally, I love it's use of guitars and it's piano base. The bridge is the perfect length, and the gentle refrain that follows is perfectly contrasted with the way the guitar reintroduces the energy. Furthermore, I love Ayu's unexpected increase in pitch for a single note after that point, introducing an optimistic and hopeful feeling as she looks toward the future. I don't understand what's not to like about all of that, so if you can enlighten me, be my guest... But I find that it perfectly encapsulates and conveys a very specific type of feeling and emotion, and that's what I look for in a great track.

DonkeyKongRemix 4th March 2016 11:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke. (Post 3187829)
Didn't she say this song was originally supposed to be an interlude? Or maybe people just commented it sounded like one. I think she did some interview on the album though and mentioned it?

I'm basically the pickiest and most critical person when it comes to music, so when I have come to like tracks that others find loathsome, it's strange. Sweet Season and blossom are two examples of that.

Sweet Season, although at first I hated it, have come to thoroughly enjoy it. I think if you find the right context to listen to it within, then you will come to accept it as it is, and find it perfect for said context. In the case of this song, it's very mellow, soothing, relaxing, reflective, and easy-going. It's certainly not "showy" at all, which is what I think so many people hate about it. But I find it's perfect for at the end of an early-autumn day, when the sky's hue is a mixture of burnt oranges, faint yellows, and tinted pinks. When the sun is beginning it's descent, and it's rays are being reflected off the gently shimmering leaves of beautiful but dying foliage. When you're driving in the car, maybe returning from a days trip, and it's just you, the road, and the journey back. Play this track, during this time of day, and maybe you will learn to appreciate it's hidden beauty.

blossom is a song I have loved since the beginning, and never understood how anyone could dislike it. It's the summer ayu track that broke the monotony of fairyland, BLUE BIRD, glitter-type tracks. It went for a more organic, crisp feeling (rather it's a spring-time or cool summer's day track vs the former which are better for hot days). Actually, a better way to describe it in contrast with tracks like fairyland, BLUE BIRD, glitter, and even Sunrise (which evoke celebratory feelings), is that it's very comforting. The gentle sadness that it alludes to is now being comforted in present day. I got this even prior to looking at the lyrics. Additionally, I love it's use of guitars and it's piano base. The bridge is the perfect length, and the gentle refrain that follows is perfectly contrasted with the way the guitar reintroduces the energy. Furthermore, I love Ayu's unexpected increase in pitch for a single note after that point, introducing an optimistic and hopeful feeling as she looks toward the future. I don't understand what's not to like about all of that, so if you can enlighten me, be my guest... But I find that it perfectly encapsulates and conveys a very specific type of feeling and emotion, and that's what I look for in a great track.

Amen to all of the above. I think Sweet Season and Blossom are both great songs, so subtle and not showy. They sound sincerely happy without too much sparkly or anything. And her voice is awesome in these two songs. To me, she didn't push too hard for something she couldn't do, but did what she could and did it really well.

I am so impressed with this album. Like...November is UHmazing. The style is so out there compared to most music I listen to, but there's actually something so complex about it. <3 It's awesome.

My personal favorites from the album are Sending Mail, Crossroad, Like a Doll, do it again, November, and Virgin Road but I love EVERY song on the album to a different degree. It's a very inspiring and unique album that I think has outshined all of her albums of recent years.

MessiahofSilence 5th March 2016 02:11 AM

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Originally Posted by NintendoHTF1242 (Post 3187825)
I LOVE the part in sending mail where she raises her voice. It's in the pre-chorus. Idk how to describe it but the melody and the way she executed it was spot-on.

Yeeeees! The intensity of the guitar and her singing just creates this feeling of anxiety but it's so good!

Sweet Season may be good for some under "the right context" but it's such a chore to me. I don't think that people hate it because it's slow since the forums seem to love the hell out of Sweet Scar and Shape of Love, and other more understated ballads. It just doesn't resonate with people and that's fine. Ayu DOES have hundreds of songs by this point, it's bound to happen. Hell, it happens to some of my favorite songs (like beloved. I don't get the hate for it).

As for blossom, NEXT LEVEL did it better :P
Fairyland/Blue Bird/glitter aren't even super similar, though? Never understood the comparison, ESPECIALLY for Fairyland? That's such a unique song. The interlude in the middle of the song is everything, so emotional.

hayasaki 5th March 2016 06:04 AM

I think this has been discussed a lot and I may sound like a broken radio but Ayu could possibly get higher sales again with more TV appearances.

Has anyone realized how she always receive good feedbacks whenever she appears on TV even for non fans and her older songs charts back almost around the same time as each performances.

I think Ayu can still do it, its just she doesn't really care at all.

ExodusUK 5th March 2016 07:38 AM

Sweet Season and blossom are blights on an otherwise FANTASTIC FLAWLESS AMAZING album.

love in music 5th March 2016 09:25 AM

I completely forgot about blossom and Sweet Season. I got bored with them, but listening again, blossom is a good song even if it's generic. It's a generic ayu sound I'm into :P
Sweet Season is still boring to me.

280301 5th March 2016 11:40 AM

I enjoy Love songs, it's not in my top 5 Ayu albums, but I love how cohesive it is. Sweet Season is :heart :heart :heart.

Miduhyo 5th March 2016 01:59 PM

Every time I decide to check out this thread we're always talking about a song that I have a hate/love relationship with. Blossom is one of those. Every time it comes on, I go: 'Ah, this is nice.' And I know the lyrics. I know the melody. I can sing along without problem.

I just never remember the name.

Ever

Not once.

paper_doll 5th March 2016 03:38 PM

Never liked Love songs, but it's not my least favourite album (and I can't believe it came out in 2010! Where does time go?). For a long time the only song I liked off it was Love Song but recently I got into Virgin Road.

Delirium-Zer0 5th March 2016 04:04 PM

Love songs has so many great melodies and really fantastic lyrics (except Like a doll which is a rehash of Marionette, but the way she plays with the sound a bit more here is pretty cool)... but god I just want to hear someone remix/reproduce THE ENTIRE THING except for "Love song." That's seriously the only song that sounds like it's finished. x_x That song was like a false freaking promise lol.... it wrote a check the rest of the album just could not cash.

Except "insomnia." Truth, that's my 2nd favorite song on that album.

I thought the early video mix of "Sweet season" was MUCH better, where you can actually hear the banjo (I think it's banjo?) playing. I probably wouldn't hate the song so much if THAT was the mix we got XD

//ABEST 5th March 2016 04:11 PM

^ early video mix?

orbitalaspect 5th March 2016 05:38 PM

I'm sorry to inject a complete change in direction, but it's just struck me over these last few days that I think Ayu ruined how beautiful you are with the lyrics. There's something highly memorable for me about the instrumental version, which I think fits very well among Ayu's other ballads, but the lyrics and singing are the parts that ruin it for me.

Anyway, I've fallen in love with the instrumental cut of the song, which I think was done quite well in contrast to the track with vocals.

YuriChan 5th March 2016 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Delirium-Zer0 (Post 3187907)
Love songs has so many great melodies and really fantastic lyrics (except Like a doll which is a rehash of Marionette, but the way she plays with the sound a bit more here is pretty cool)... but god I just want to hear someone remix/reproduce THE ENTIRE THING except for "Love song." That's seriously the only song that sounds like it's finished. x_x That song was like a false freaking promise lol.... it wrote a check the rest of the album just could not cash.

Except "insomnia." Truth, that's my 2nd favorite song on that album.

I thought the early video mix of "Sweet season" was MUCH better, where you can actually hear the banjo (I think it's banjo?) playing. I probably wouldn't hate the song so much if THAT was the mix we got XD

I've always thought that "Like a doll" was a mixture of And Then and Dolls (the structure is similar to Dolls, but with that "And Then" vibe). ^^;

DonkeyKongRemix 5th March 2016 06:21 PM

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Originally Posted by orbitalaspect (Post 3187919)
I'm sorry to inject a complete change in direction, but it's just struck me over these last few days that I think Ayu ruined how beautiful you are with the lyrics. There's something highly memorable for me about the instrumental version, which I think fits very well among Ayu's other ballads, but the lyrics and singing are the parts that ruin it for me.

Anyway, I've fallen in love with the instrumental cut of the song, which I think was done quite well in contrast to the track with vocals.

I'm just gonna say it, it's been hanging over me for a while...

HBYA is hands-down, without a doubt, my LEAST favorite Ayu song of all time. The background is pretty, but aside from that...her voice, the melody... D:

It's not about it being boring, since the GIFT is one of my favorite Ayu songs (and I know people think that song is super boring). It's just that melody... :no

love in music 5th March 2016 06:54 PM

I don't like How Beautiful You Are either. The English lines and her voice ruin it for me.
Anyone remember Sunset ~Love is all~ ? I remember there was so much hate for it when it first came out for being boring. Has anyone's opinion changed on it? I still think it drags a bit but is a nice listen.

chocopockymaster 6th March 2016 12:25 AM

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Originally Posted by love in music (Post 3187926)
I don't like How Beautiful You Are either. The English lines and her voice ruin it for me.
Anyone remember Sunset ~Love is all~ ? I remember there was so much hate for it when it first came out for being boring. Has anyone's opinion changed on it? I still think it drags a bit but is a nice listen.

I was firmly in the Sunrise camp when the single came out and never paid much attention to Sunset, but then I went to go see AT2009 and my life was unfolding in such a way at the time that being at Yoyogi and seeing the performance and really listening to the lyrics for the first time was like...the emotional equivalent of being hit by a freight train. I remember sitting there sobbing, trying not to disturb the people around me, lol. I've had a soft spot for it ever since.

Miduhyo 6th March 2016 01:43 AM

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Originally Posted by love in music (Post 3187926)
I don't like How Beautiful You Are either. The English lines and her voice ruin it for me.
Anyone remember Sunset ~Love is all~ ? I remember there was so much hate for it when it first came out for being boring. Has anyone's opinion changed on it? I still think it drags a bit but is a nice listen.

It definitely drags on but my opinion has changed somewhat of it. When the single was first released, it was Sunrise that I was so drawn to. It's just fun and bouncy and a great work-out song (for me). Sunset was just... boring. And I still find it boring but I'm not entirely against it now. I even sang it for a friend's wedding reception because the bride (another Ayu fan) asked me to. I think it was that moment there that made me change my mind about the song. Like you said, it drags but it's a nice listen. Not one I ever find myself going 'Huh, I feel like listening to Sunset.' But I don't skip it when it comes on.

Zeke. 6th March 2016 02:51 AM

She's released A LOT worse since Sunset. So whenever it comes on now, I actually find it quite soothing by comparison.

jiarongisme 6th March 2016 03:33 AM

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Originally Posted by chocopockymaster (Post 3187937)
I was firmly in the Sunrise camp when the single came out and never paid much attention to Sunset, but then I went to go see AT2009 and my life was unfolding in such a way at the time that being at Yoyogi and seeing the performance and really listening to the lyrics for the first time was like...the emotional equivalent of being hit by a freight train. I remember sitting there sobbing, trying not to disturb the people around me, lol. I've had a soft spot for it ever since.

That's such a beautiful experience :yes

orbitalaspect 6th March 2016 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by love in music (Post 3187926)
I don't like How Beautiful You Are either. The English lines and her voice ruin it for me.
Anyone remember Sunset ~Love is all~ ? I remember there was so much hate for it when it first came out for being boring. Has anyone's opinion changed on it? I still think it drags a bit but is a nice listen.

I loved Sunset when it came out. In fact, my only gripe with it was that it had all the trappings of a classic Ayu ballad but didn't come together production-wise. Today, I mostly miss the feeling of expecting a new single. So, because Sunrise/Sunset was Ayu's last summer-themed single, I respect and appreciate it much more now than I did then. I just wish that it wasn't the last.

There are many things I can handle Ayu not doing, but the hardest among them all has been her cutting down the singles. The day Ayu comes back and says, "Hey! I'm going to release singles regularly again," will be the day I think a lot of us breathe a collective sigh of relief.

tokyoxjapanxfan 6th March 2016 01:27 PM

I preferred the more poppy sounding preview from the kiwi commercial. The final product was a bit too acousticy for me?

jean-baptiste 6th March 2016 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by chocopockymaster (Post 3187937)
I was firmly in the Sunrise camp when the single came out and never paid much attention to Sunset, but then I went to go see AT2009 and my life was unfolding in such a way at the time that being at Yoyogi and seeing the performance and really listening to the lyrics for the first time was like...the emotional equivalent of being hit by a freight train. I remember sitting there sobbing, trying not to disturb the people around me, lol. I've had a soft spot for it ever since.

Very nice story. :)

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Originally Posted by Zeke. (Post 3187943)
She's released A LOT worse since Sunset. So whenever it comes on now, I actually find it quite soothing by comparison.

My feelings exactly. Wasn't a big fan of the single when it was first released, but in retrospect its a great single.

Yumsushi 6th March 2016 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ExodusUK (Post 3187853)
November and blossom are blights on an otherwise FANTASTIC FLAWLESS AMAZING album.

fixed it for you lol

Also I just cant sit through her concerts anymore. Her voice is so good but there are waaay too many things going on stage. Like when she sang Duty on her last DVD....how can I watch and enjoy her singing about the end of her world when there are clowns doing backflips and juggling things?

channy 6th March 2016 07:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Yumsushi (Post 3187991)
Her voice is so good but there are waaay too many things going on stage. Like when she sang Duty on her last DVD....how can I watch and enjoy her singing about the end of her world when there are clowns doing backflips and juggling things?


For the most part I prefer Ayu being alone on stage with her band... Concert Tour 2000 appeals so much to me as there were many moments when the stage seemed empty or at least not crowded by Japanese dancers.

I also prefer the TV lives, when she used to do her thing without heaps of random dancers around her. Last time I got angry for this reason was the "A Song is born" live performance at Music Station. I would have loved to enjoy it but there were so many distracting people surrounding Ayu, trying to look emotional.

Ayu + Tetsuya & her band would have been the perfect constellation for me. Or just Ayu and Tetsuya in a piano duet...

Yumsushi 6th March 2016 07:24 PM

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Originally Posted by channy (Post 3187995)
For the most part I prefer Ayu being alone on stage with her band... Concert Tour 2000 appeals so much to me as there were many moments when the stage seemed empty or at least not crowded by Japanese dancers.

I also prefer the TV lives, when she used to do her thing without heaps of random dancers around her. Last time I got angry for this reason was the "A Song is born" live performance at Music Station. I would have loved to enjoy it but there were so many distracting people surrounding Ayu, trying to look emotional.

Ayu + Tetsuya & her band would have been the perfect constellation for me. Or just Ayu and Tetsuya in a piano duet...

I think she feels like she needs to fill the stage for the concert to be enjoyable, but she doesn't. There has to be a balance between the number of people on stage and the song. My Story tour and premium countdown live are good examples of that I think.

I would LOVE a stripped down Ayu and Tetsuya show. They have enough songs together that it would easily work.

Delirium-Zer0 6th March 2016 08:08 PM

Yeah, Ayu's concerts are like... Whenever I have to design a website or an ad, and the client says to "emphasize this... oh, and can we make this pop a little more? ... I wanna draw more attention to this, too..." and by the time he's done telling me to make EVERYTHING pop, NOTHING actually draws your eye at all, it's just a big old mess. There's no focal point, there's no flow that draws your eyes from one thing to another, it looks like a child's messy playroom.

That is what Ayu's concerts are like for me a lot of times. lol

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Originally Posted by //ABEST (Post 3187908)
^ early video mix?

Yeah, an early edit of the video was posted on Vimeo by one of the kids' parents, and the mix of the song is VERY different. The guitar & banjo have more emphasis, and a bunch of the studio-synth isn't included or has been greatly reduced. The drums are more complex & less polished, as well. The whole thing just feels a bit more... singular, I guess. It's more nuanced.

You get the feeling like Ayu recorded her vocals on top of the original first-run instrumentation (maybe it's on top of the original demo's instruments), and then mixing afterwards just stripped it of EVERYTHING even remotely uneven, thus stripping it of all its character. I mean this version of the song feels like... Ayu's first foray into Country Music lol. It's actually pretty unique to me! It's not an AMAZING song, but holy crap, everything good about it was, for me, just GONE by the time it got released.

Yumsushi 6th March 2016 08:40 PM

When you watch her concerts now you wouldn't ever think this is someone whos been around for over 15 years. But then its the same thing with many albums, album covers and PVs. The attention to detail and drive to deliver a product worthy of putting the Ayu stamp on it is gone. What we are left with now is generally mediocre and sometimes (often) cringe worthy.

Sometimes I think I need to stop listening to her and quit the fandom all together but I just can't quit on something that I've invested so much money, time and emotion into. Thankfully she still puts out a few gems every now and then and it's not a total and utter loss.

paper_doll 6th March 2016 10:51 PM

^I feel you on that.

I just can't walk away entirely. When's the last time she put out something I truly enjoyed? A decade ago? Maybe longer? But her back catalogue is so incredible and so important. And because she puts out some really good songs every once and a while, it's worth sticking around for me. She'll always be my favourite even though I feel like I mostly just bitch anymore lol

jiarongisme 7th March 2016 07:20 AM



I think this is the Sweet Season video in question

Miduhyo 7th March 2016 09:21 AM

^ Oh my God, I loved it. So much better than what we have, I feel.

Delirium-Zer0 7th March 2016 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by paper_doll (Post 3188005)
^I feel you on that.

I just can't walk away entirely. When's the last time she put out something I truly enjoyed? A decade ago? Maybe longer? But her back catalogue is so incredible and so important. And because she puts out some really good songs every once and a while, it's worth sticking around for me. She'll always be my favourite even though I feel like I mostly just bitch anymore lol

Kinda with you guys there. Like I love "A ONE" but it's still nowhere near what I feel like it COULD be.

I don't feel like Ayu is doing what she seemed to be on track to do through... hmm, maybe the "H" single. She seemed to be getting more intimate, allowing herself some rawness, she used a good mix of electronic, electric, and acoustic instrumentation.... her stuff had texture, and that gave it more resonance, because the music felt very deliberately created but it also felt very human.

These days I'll listen to music like old-school Garbage, Enter Shikari, late 90s/early 2000s BT, some progressive metal & dramatic Visual Kei stuff, Bjork's "Post" and "Homogenic" albums, Tori Amos' "from the choirgirl hotel" and "To Venus and Back" and I just think.... Ayu should be doing music somewhere at the midway between all that & her current stuff. THAT is where she seemed to be going, and I dunno if she got scared of going that way or what. And I think I'm disappointed that I never got to see a mature version of the material on "Duty" and "I am..." because NONE of the above music really scratches the itch for me. Enter Shikari has all the screaming vocals which I'm really not into. BT's stuff is just a BIT too engineered for Ayu (although I'd still ADORE a collaboration between them, I really would). Prog metal (and math rock) don't typically have the female vocals and when they do the singer just doesn't sound like she's really feeling what she's singing... like she's more focused on the technique than the emotion. The other stuff up there I've just listened to too many times, and there's nothing new that sounds like it, so I'm left kinda feeling like "okay, I'm done listening to all that, does anyone have anything for me? ...No? well crap..."

Ayu's big selling point for me was that her stuff was more personal & complex than most "pop" was, but it still had the polish & professionalism of pop... It was intimate like the rock I enjoyed, but it wasn't totally self-indulgent and thrown-together-in-a-garage sounding. My taste has always been stuff that's personal and noisy, but communicated in the polished pop music language. And Ayu exemplified that in a MAJOR way for awhile. And I've yet to find anyone to match it. Like I've never heard a song like "monochrome" by anyone else.

When Ayu occasionally releases songs that incorporate some deliberate artistry, it's SO WORTH IT to keep following her, because those songs are always "OMG MY FAVORITE SONG EVER" whenever they happen.

Yumsushi 7th March 2016 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by jiarongisme (Post 3188029)


I think this is the Sweet Season video in question

I remember watching this when it was first posted but I never noticed the difference between this and the final version. Personally I like both, but this version sounds rawer, warmer somehow.

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Originally Posted by Delirium-Zer0 (Post 3188059)
These days I'll listen to music like old-school Garbage, Enter Shikari, late 90s/early 2000s BT, some progressive metal & dramatic Visual Kei stuff, Bjork's "Post" and "Homogenic" albums, Tori Amos' "from the choirgirl hotel" and "To Venus and Back" and I just think.... Ayu should be doing music somewhere at the midway between all that & her current stuff. THAT is where she seemed to be going, and I dunno if she got scared of going that way or what. And I think I'm disappointed that I never got to see a mature version of the material on "Duty" and "I am..." because NONE of the above music really scratches the itch for me. Enter Shikari has all the screaming vocals which I'm really not into. BT's stuff is just a BIT too engineered for Ayu (although I'd still ADORE a collaboration between them, I really would). Prog metal (and math rock) don't typically have the female vocals and when they do the singer just doesn't sound like she's really feeling what she's singing... like she's more focused on the technique than the emotion. The other stuff up there I've just listened to too many times, and there's nothing new that sounds like it, so I'm left kinda feeling like "okay, I'm done listening to all that, does anyone have anything for me? ...No? well crap..."

By BT did you mean Buck-Tick? I would LOVE to see a collaboration too!
Something like Oukoku kingdom come, Romance or Keijijou Ryusei. Although I think even Ayu would find it challenging to match Sakurai's sexy soulful style.

Also as a Bjork and Tori Amos fan I can say that looking at their careers, they too (to me) had highs and low in terms of their musical output but I dont think any of them actually lost sense of their selves or their art like I feel Ayu did. I feel that Ayu is too immersed in her world to be able to look at anything objectively. She needs to either step away for a time or hire an objective third party to critique her work.

Aderianu 8th March 2016 08:35 AM

7th March - NEVER EVER 15th anniversary
http://i.imgur.com/g0VyAr7m.jpg

8th March - Startin'/Born To Be… 10th anniversary
http://i.imgur.com/fea8Y6Fm.jpg

Chibi-Chan 8th March 2016 09:24 AM

How I miss those times when she didn't looked all fake on her covers. u.u

jiarongisme 8th March 2016 12:08 PM

I LOVE everything about the Startin'/Born To Be... shoot. EVERYTHING.

Miduhyo 8th March 2016 02:07 PM

^ Me too. She looks soooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo beautiful in them.

Gustavopc 8th March 2016 02:22 PM

That is the main reason I bought the single lol It is one of her prettiest shoots ever imo

MessiahofSilence 8th March 2016 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by jiarongisme (Post 3188140)
I LOVE everything about the Startin'/Born To Be... shoot. EVERYTHING.

God, YES!
Long straight and dark hair really suits her

Delirium-Zer0 8th March 2016 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Yumsushi (Post 3188082)
By BT did you mean Buck-Tick? I would LOVE to see a collaboration too!
Something like Oukoku kingdom come, Romance or Keijijou Ryusei. Although I think even Ayu would find it challenging to match Sakurai's sexy soulful style.

No, BT the electronic composer/producer... although a collab with Buck-Tick might be interesting, especially if Ayu sticks to her lower voice and gentle vibrato. She can be absolutely entrancing when she sings low like that. Imagine a Buck-Tick collaboration version of "the next LOVE"! They could add a really gorgeous gothic touch to something like that.

But no, BT (Brian Transeau)'s older big beat stuff (cuz nowadays his stuff is more straightforward EDM/pop/trance) is a GREAT fit for Ayu. To be honest even his recent EDM stuff is a better fit for Ayu melodically & production-wise than a bunch of what was on "Colours," but only marginally. I just feel like the feelings they both put into music seem very similar, but he's much more willing to express it than Ayu has been.

I just have such a hard time believing Ayu hasn't looked into working with BT at all o_O I mean, Hybrid and Mad Professor back in the day, but not BT? That's weird to me.

....Also, Daishi Dance is a poor man's Hybrid lol.

god I miss millennial techno & electronica music. hahahaha

oaristos 8th March 2016 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by love in music (Post 3187926)
I don't like How Beautiful You Are either. The English lines and her voice ruin it for me.

My ears bleed every time I listen to How beautiful you are. I think it's the worst song from Party Queen and I can't believe it even got a tie-in.

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Originally Posted by Aderianu (Post 3188124)
8th March - Startin'/Born To Be… 10th anniversary
http://i.imgur.com/fea8Y6Fm.jpg

Such an iconic song! It reminds me of how good of an album Secret is! :heart

Brett.Mason92 8th March 2016 11:10 PM

I hope her being with her new husband inspires

Return to Virgin Road ~Untitled so no ex-husband shaming~

featuring her husband in a video trilogy single for winter and not dropping a photo again like in Return Road so we know she values Husband #3 more than Maro (my bae) and that Tarzan wannabe.

Brett.Mason92 8th March 2016 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by love in music (Post 3187926)
I don't like How Beautiful You Are either. The English lines and her voice ruin it for me.
Anyone remember Sunset ~Love is all~ ? I remember there was so much hate for it when it first came out for being boring. Has anyone's opinion changed on it? I still think it drags a bit but is a nice listen.

Because you don't know how beautiful you are. Watch Feel the love and so you can be that girl who chases a man through LA to Santa Monica and becomes skinny Ayu herself. If you know that and know better, you can then appreciate how beautiful you are and work on yourself, ANATA GA :o


But really, I don't like her English also there.. Her English sounds like she's struggling to breath sometimes like she's escaping this situation and recording all at once. :(

http://i661.photobucket.com/albums/u.../fire-mess.gif
You don't know
you don't know
how bea-uuu-tiff-full you ahhhhh
you ahhhh
you ahhhh
yeahhhhhh
You don't know
you don't know
how bea-uuu-tiff-full you ahhhhh
http://i.imgur.com/Y6Xvpsa.gifru



(I'm not mocking her accent in a prejudice way as her english IS GOOD, it's just how it's sung)

xLuna&1LOVE 8th March 2016 11:43 PM

^ What is up with those gifs tho? I don't get it and I don't think it is funny.

I might be retarded, because I like how beautiful you are. I won't be overplaying it, but it is a nice song. I prefer to listen to this, than something like Thank U.
Besides it is a nice album ending. The worst of Party Queen is definetely NaNaNa or Eyes Smoke Magic.

DonkeyKongRemix 8th March 2016 11:51 PM

LOL those gifs, it's like you think it's leading to something pleasant and it turns to hell. That last one!!!

Brett.Mason92 9th March 2016 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by xLuna&1LOVE (Post 3188178)
^ What is up with those gifs tho? I don't get it and I don't think it is funny.

I might be retarded, because I like how beautiful you are. I won't be overplaying it, but it is a nice song. I prefer to listen to this, than something like Thank U.
Besides it is a nice album ending. The worst of Party Queen is definitely NaNaNa or Eyes Smoke Magic.


I do like it and the chorus is FINE. Above, I was just being overdramatic out of boredom and seeing as it's common for members to give great critic towards her music. However; I'm bad at that as I love almost all her songs so I just went crazy with GIF's :yes

SayukiChoco 9th March 2016 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by jiarongisme (Post 3188140)
I LOVE everything about the Startin'/Born To Be... shoot. EVERYTHING.

Totally! It's one of her best shoots ever, she looks so natural :love

Quote:

Originally Posted by xLuna&1LOVE (Post 3188178)
I might be retarded, because I like how beautiful you are. I won't be overplaying it, but it is a nice song. I prefer to listen to this, than something like Thank U.
Besides it is a nice album ending. The worst of Party Queen is definetely NaNaNa or Eyes Smoke Magic.

I like NaNaNa :P Certainly not one of her best songs but I do listen to it from time to time.

sitara 9th March 2016 10:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Brett.Mason92 (Post 3188180)
I do like it and the chorus is FINE. Above, I was just being overdramatic out of boredom and seeing as it's common for members to give great critic towards her music. However; I'm bad at that as I love almost all her songs so I just went crazy with GIF's :yes

the last gif has me giggling like mad XD

Zeke. 9th March 2016 01:25 PM

Hbya is unlistenable for me. I think I made it through the whole song once. It's that bad.

Isicio 9th March 2016 01:57 PM

Ayu finished 14 new songs.

Aderianu 9th March 2016 02:02 PM

Or 9 =)

Isicio 9th March 2016 02:30 PM

^And something about 5 songs discarted.
If only are 14 songs finally maybe are 11+3 interludes or 12+2 interludes

Gustavopc 9th March 2016 02:45 PM

I'd say it's very likely we are getting an album right before the tour starts, hopefully it'll be announced soon!

tokyoxjapanxfan 9th March 2016 03:24 PM

That certainly would make sense since she doesn't really have any material for a brand new tour. Not that it's necessary since we already know the tour title, unless of course the album is called Made in Japan as well haha.

Aderianu 9th March 2016 03:42 PM

how I miss album themed tours with lots of new songs!

does ayu herself thinks that her recent songs are not good enough to be performed?

Isicio 9th March 2016 04:03 PM

When she was released the Colours album new songs preview? Before the tour starts or later?

Zeke. 9th March 2016 04:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Aderianu (Post 3188253)
how I miss album themed tours with lots of new songs!

does ayu herself thinks that her recent songs are not good enough to be performed?

I wish she had realized that many of them weren't good enough to be released let alone performed, LOL.

I miss the album themed tours too.

Aderianu 9th March 2016 04:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Isicio (Post 3188261)
When she was released the Colours album new songs preview? Before the tour starts or later?

tour started 30th may, TA got access to new songs 21th may

I like how RnRC tour started before album release. I think it was very interesting to watch first shows

Gustavopc 9th March 2016 04:54 PM

^ The tour started one or two weeks before the album came out wasn't it? That would have been really great to see those songs for the first time during the tour, it was such a fantastic one

Andrenekoi 9th March 2016 05:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Aderianu (Post 3188253)
how I miss album themed tours with lots of new songs!

does ayu herself thinks that her recent songs are not good enough to be performed?

Ayu performed 80% of Colours during PSC
And about half of A One in CdM.

Between 50% and 80% of songs from the album is actually her average... It's unusual for her to perform the whole album (I can only think of AT09) or 2 or 3 songs from it (happened with both GUILTY and LOVE again, 2 failures released on years of best of tours and Love Song, the tour being scraped because of the disaster)

She is just not naming the tours after the albums, but it doesn't mean they aren't linked on theme or aesthetic, as Colours and PSC were both about her trying a different aproach and.A One and CdM being both about her doing classic Ayu.

Corvina 9th March 2016 06:08 PM

Just saw that Instagram post from today.
Guess she means she wrote 14 songs (or better 9 after deleting). So recording, album shooting and more still to come. Hm, maybe a summer album? Tour starting and then album in June?

Ryusei 9th March 2016 07:13 PM

Excited about the news that she did so many songs already.

Yesterday I gave A song for xx (the album) another shot after not liking it for the first 2 times and now I actually quite love it. I guess I just wasn't used to the 90s sounding instrumentals. This time i went in without expectations and loved it lol How have I never noticed what a jam SIGNAL is...

Aderianu 9th March 2016 09:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 3188280)
Ayu performed 80% of Colours during PSC
And about half of A One in CdM.

only 1/3 of CdM made from A ONE. All new songs lost between old

Chibi-Chan 9th March 2016 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Zeke. (Post 3188262)
I wish she had realized that many of them weren't good enough to be released let alone performed, LOL.

I miss the album themed tours too.

This. lol

Andrenekoi 9th March 2016 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Aderianu (Post 3188291)
only 1/3 of CdM made from A ONE. All new songs lost between old

It still was her average number of songs... She probably should have sung the whole album, but that would be a hell of a boring concert :P

~angel*ayumi~ 10th March 2016 08:11 AM

Half of the songs from A One were performed at CdM Tour and another 2 at the CDL.
I think that is ok. (So she performed 8 out of 11 songs at CDL + Tour)
You must think of that the CdM Tour was her longest concert. Even is she whould have sung all of the A One Songs it still whould have been less than a half of the concert.

stepYOU1234 10th March 2016 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by Ryusei (Post 3188285)
Excited about the news that she did so many songs already.

Yesterday I gave A song for xx (the album) another shot after not liking it for the first 2 times and now I actually quite love it. I guess I just wasn't used to the 90s sounding instrumentals. This time i went in without expectations and loved it lol How have I never noticed what a jam SIGNAL is...

There are a lot of songs on A song for xx that I love. Yes, the sound is very retro and 90s and Ayu's voice is nasally imperfect but the melodies and lyrics are :luv2 Hana and SIGNAL, oh and As if... I loved when they were performed for PCDL (which was so long ago now!) I don't think I'd want them re-recorded as their charm comes from lots of the imperfections but some lives performances would maybe be nice.

pimenta 11th March 2016 12:47 PM

A ONE has many ballads and mid-tempo songs, singing them all would probably drag the concert and make it less exciting, so I think it's natural she had to select just part of them to be performed. It's different than NEXT LEVEL, for example, that is mostly an upbeat album and she sang all songs during the concert.

Well, the way she's going with the new album's lyrics, I'm not so sure anymore it's going to come out before the tour starts. It may end up with a release schedule like Colours.

SayukiChoco 11th March 2016 01:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryusei (Post 3188285)
Excited about the news that she did so many songs already.

Yesterday I gave A song for xx (the album) another shot after not liking it for the first 2 times and now I actually quite love it. I guess I just wasn't used to the 90s sounding instrumentals. This time i went in without expectations and loved it lol How have I never noticed what a jam SIGNAL is...


SIGNAL is one of my favorites from A song for xx, apart from A song for xx itself and Trust. I really want her to perform Trust again, this song is so good. And so underrrated :(

pimenta 11th March 2016 02:35 PM

^ YES, I love Trust! It's one of my all time favorites together with YOU and ASfxx. I wish she would remember this song and magically revive it...

Surreal17 11th March 2016 05:39 PM

She would have to low the pitch for Trust, since the original song is very high pitched. I loved the mature monochrome version from Power of Music, so she could do something similar with Trust.

Aderianu 11th March 2016 06:14 PM

I adore Trust! I even know words of chorus )
I began to love SIGNAL from AT09 and For my dear from PCDL. Wish Ayu resing more old songs

~angel*ayumi~ 11th March 2016 06:54 PM

Much of her earlier songs are very underrated.

Yumsushi 11th March 2016 08:54 PM

Personally I LOVE As if. When was the last time she sang it?

Aderianu 11th March 2016 09:07 PM

^never?

truehappiness 12th March 2016 12:17 PM

Seems like it hasn't been done. Though I feel like perhaps she would have done it at the SECRET LIVE in Akasaka Blitz but she skipped a few ASFXX songs in favor of others.

Surreal17 13th March 2016 03:40 PM

Actually, I don't really care about the Secret Live concert because her voice was probably as scratchy as in the studio recording. Now, a 2016 stripped down version of As if.. or any other ASFxx song would be interesting.

SayukiChoco 13th March 2016 11:48 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ~angel*ayumi~ (Post 3188555)
Much of her earlier songs are very underrated.

So true

owlflight 14th March 2016 12:11 AM

Adding to As if... love. One of my favs from her first album.

stepYOU1234 14th March 2016 02:04 PM

On an A Song for XX listening trip now :)

tokyoxjapanxfan 14th March 2016 03:10 PM

I'm listening to A song for xx recently too haha. Though I was always into this album. Trust, Depend on you, You and for my dear are still some of my top songs.


I think it wasn't until Guilty that I had a hard time with of of her albums.


Also I'm over her dark hair. I think dark hair ages people sometimes. I think she needs a warmer color, and green ash is certainly not warm lol. I always thought she looked great with blonde hair. And I've enjoyed the dark hair. But it's time. Haha.

Zeke. 14th March 2016 03:34 PM

I feel like she just got the brown hair! A caramel color would be nice. I think she just recently changed it to that? Or maybe she can go a bit lighter yet but keep the brown. It was really dark for a while which I didn't like.

tokyoxjapanxfan 14th March 2016 05:31 PM

Too long! Too long I say! Haha

DonkeyKongRemix 14th March 2016 08:30 PM

I like that her dark hair makes her look mature and not like she's trying to look younger.

If I had to choose my favorite blonde hair of hers, though, I'd have to choose the color she had in Sweet Scar. So pretty, especially with her modest make up and clothes. :D

I don't know why, though, her dark hair always seems just so special

truehappiness 14th March 2016 09:44 PM

She just got it cut! Not sure about color though.

tokyoxjapanxfan 15th March 2016 01:01 AM

http://i66.tinypic.com/1z2j8s0.jpg

Love this color.

Pieces_of_SEVEN 15th March 2016 03:51 AM

I've always loved ayu as a blonde.

Gustavopc 15th March 2016 06:25 AM

She had blond for so long I am happy she's for a long while with dark hair, it looks more "glam" on her imo


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