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CeReSu 20th February 2021 01:04 PM

So far we have:

- Moments
- JEWEL
- Momentum
- Together When

Darkifrit 20th February 2021 01:07 PM

Weird they skipped No way to say, CAROLS & HEAVEN from the chronology.

I hope we can have a view on the covers.
The fact momentum & Together when... are included already made me happy with this release! 2 of my favorites songs.

Evan Odinson 20th February 2021 01:09 PM

^No way to say is playing now!

Cahz- 20th February 2021 01:09 PM

No way to say is on now. I guess this will be the DVD content?

ayuPanda 20th February 2021 01:12 PM

Does anybody know from which live Together when was?

thinkingoutloud89 20th February 2021 01:14 PM

CAROLS

Evan Odinson 20th February 2021 01:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayuPanda (Post 3335459)
Does anybody know from which live Together when was?

COUNTDOWN LIVE 2018-2019 A -TROUBLE- :yes

CeReSu 20th February 2021 01:15 PM

we have now:

- Moments
- JEWEL
- Momentum
- Together When
- No way to sauf
- CAROLS

I'm happy with this tracklist for now

freedreamer 20th February 2021 01:15 PM

all her most epic ballads are coming together!!
where was that Together When... performance from though?

holy_arrow 20th February 2021 01:15 PM

I dont like this way to show the setlist.
These performances that we watched 1000 times.
And the no performance/ MV songs may be not included.

ayuPanda 20th February 2021 01:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evan Odinson (Post 3335461)
COUNTDOWN LIVE 2018-2019 A -TROUBLE- :yes

Thank you :) Never watched this CDL lol

KPL 20th February 2021 01:17 PM

Given the number of years and only two discs, it was almost guaranteed that only the most epic songs will be included... so yeah it kind of makes sense for them to show content with performances.

And man. What a beautiful live for Carols.

the3ye 20th February 2021 01:19 PM

Well... At least we know that the content of the second dvd/bd disc is going to be...another live complitlation.
Hope it's not true, though xd

Evan Odinson 20th February 2021 01:19 PM

HEAVEN of course! :luv2

Katsuyuki012 20th February 2021 01:26 PM

Days... now.

Darkifrit 20th February 2021 01:27 PM

I bet on You were... next

She better put walking proud too!


Edit : awww she didn’t forget fated ❤️❤️

ayuPanda 20th February 2021 01:29 PM

OMFG She took fated!!! I'm so happy for that song

Evan Odinson 20th February 2021 01:30 PM

I'm so happy she included Fated, such an underrated song and it's one of my favorites!!!

thinkingoutloud89 20th February 2021 01:34 PM

it was a s-side - and did you really not expect lives today? i totally was - I want some more info today tho!

Party_King 20th February 2021 01:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evan Odinson (Post 3335473)
I'm so happy she included Fated, such an underrated song and it's one of my favorites!!!

Same here! I wouldn’t have bet on it...

CeReSu 20th February 2021 01:35 PM

- Moments
- JEWEL
- Momentum
- Together When
- No way to say
- CAROLS
- HEAVEN
- Days
- fated
- MOON

I'm happy with this tracklist for now

Katsuyuki012 20th February 2021 01:36 PM

Great choice for MOON.

ayuPanda 20th February 2021 01:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CeReSu (Post 3335476)
- Moments
- JEWEL
- Momentum
- Together When
- No way to sauf
- CAROLS
- HEAVEN
- Days
- fated
- MOON

I'm happy with this tracklist for now

Same, exclude for Days. But it's a must song. So I was prepared :P

ayuPanda 20th February 2021 01:40 PM

That's it for now. See you next Week!

thinkingoutloud89 20th February 2021 01:40 PM

noooooo

holy_arrow 20th February 2021 01:40 PM

Wtf.
Go on waiting

Xianghua 20th February 2021 01:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by the3ye (Post 3335468)
Well... At least we know that the content of the second dvd/bd disc is going to be...another live complitlation.
Hope it's not true, though xd

I had this thought too, especially since those two old Kohaku performances were in VERY high quality.

Evan Odinson 20th February 2021 01:41 PM

I wonder if this means that songs with no live performances won't be included, if so I'll be really sad for "Pray" (unless they actually show the one time (?) she sang it at TA Tour 2015 lol)

So today was part 1 and they showed 10 songs, maybe next saturday they'll show another 10... 20 songs for a compilation album sounds right.

Darkifrit 20th February 2021 01:41 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thinkingoutloud89 (Post 3335474)
it was a s-side - and did you really not expect lives today?

They will probably make some cuts. fated was not really a top fan favorite.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they skipped forgiveness, crossroad or Hanabi II for example.


The rest of the track list Next week...

tokyoxjapanxfan 20th February 2021 01:42 PM

The two random tv performances was weird lol.
I’m curious as to why they used those instead of a concert?

ayuPanda 20th February 2021 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Evan Odinson (Post 3335483)
I wonder if this means that songs with no live performances won't be included, if so I'll be really sad for "Pray" (unless they actually show the one time (?) she sang it at TA Tour 2015 lol)

So today was part 1 and they showed 10 songs, maybe next saturday they'll show another 10... 20 songs for a compilation album sounds right.

Didn't she write the album will be have 30 Songs? So on March 6th can be shown another 10 songs.

dannysan 20th February 2021 01:45 PM

from official website:

CD(DISC-1)(DISC-2)
※曲順未定

01 Moments
02 JEWEL
03 momentum
04 Together When...
05 No way to say
06 CAROLS
07 HEAVEN
08 Days
09 fated
10 MOON
Blu-ray(DISC-3)
※曲順未定

01 No way to say (ayumi hamasaki ARENA TOUR 2003-2004 A(ロゴ))
02 CAROLS (ayumi hamasaki ARENA TOUR 2005 A(ロゴ) ~MY STORY~)
03 HEAVEN (ayumi hamasaki 15th Anniversary TOUR ~A(ロゴ) BEST LIVE~)
04 Days (ayumi hamasaki ARENA TOUR 2009 A(ロゴ) ~NEXT LEVEL~)
05 fated (ayumi hamasaki COUNTDOWN LIVE 2007-2008 A(ロゴ)nniversary)
06 MOON (ayumi hamasaki ARENA TOUR 2016 A(ロゴ) ~M(A(ロゴ))DE IN JAPAN~)
Blu-ray(DISC-4)
※曲順未定

01 Moments (第55回NHK紅白歌合戦)
02 JEWEL (第57回NHK紅白歌合戦)
03 momentum (ayumi hamasaki Special SHOWCASE ~Xmas Eve 2020~)
04 Together When... (ayumi hamasaki COUNTDOWN LIVE 2018-2019 A(ロゴ) -TROUBLE-)

thinkingoutloud89 20th February 2021 01:45 PM

^yeah - and for 20 songs you don't need two discs anymore

Darkifrit 20th February 2021 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ayuPanda (Post 3335486)
Didn't she write the album will be have 30 Songs? So on March 6th can be shown another 10 songs.

15 songs each CD... it makes sense.
Well today’s reveal was a nonevent. We were all pretty sure they would include these songs with the exception of one or two songs haha

KPL 20th February 2021 01:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by tokyoxjapanxfan (Post 3335485)
The two random tv performances was weird lol.
I’m curious as to why they used those instead of a concert?

Yeah totally odd choices XD especially considering how many iconic Moments concert performances she has

thinkingoutloud89 20th February 2021 01:47 PM

okay - the reveal is disappointing, not gonna lie

Sim' 20th February 2021 01:47 PM

So far, so good ^^

Quote:

Originally Posted by Darkifrit (Post 3335471)
She better put walking proud too!

Amen! :yes

Evan Odinson 20th February 2021 01:48 PM

Totally forgot about it having 30 songs, thanks!!! I really hope they include Pray , I love that song haha

dannysan 20th February 2021 01:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dannysan (Post 3335487)
from official website:

CD(DISC-1)(DISC-2)
※曲順未定

01 Moments
02 JEWEL
03 momentum
04 Together When...
05 No way to say
06 CAROLS
07 HEAVEN
08 Days
09 fated
10 MOON
Blu-ray(DISC-3)
※曲順未定

01 No way to say (ayumi hamasaki ARENA TOUR 2003-2004 A(ロゴ))
02 CAROLS (ayumi hamasaki ARENA TOUR 2005 A(ロゴ) ~MY STORY~)
03 HEAVEN (ayumi hamasaki 15th Anniversary TOUR ~A(ロゴ) BEST LIVE~)
04 Days (ayumi hamasaki ARENA TOUR 2009 A(ロゴ) ~NEXT LEVEL~)
05 fated (ayumi hamasaki COUNTDOWN LIVE 2007-2008 A(ロゴ)nniversary)
06 MOON (ayumi hamasaki ARENA TOUR 2016 A(ロゴ) ~M(A(ロゴ))DE IN JAPAN~)
Blu-ray(DISC-4)
※曲順未定

01 Moments (第55回NHK紅白歌合戦)
02 JEWEL (第57回NHK紅白歌合戦)
03 momentum (ayumi hamasaki Special SHOWCASE ~Xmas Eve 2020~)
04 Together When... (ayumi hamasaki COUNTDOWN LIVE 2018-2019 A(ロゴ) -TROUBLE-)

So looks like 2nd DVD/Bluray will be "rare/unreleased live performances.."?

SpiceSquad! 20th February 2021 01:50 PM

Better be #1 on oricon chart :love

Toniayu123 20th February 2021 01:51 PM

The disappointment hit real hard lol I like the song choices, so glad they included fated. But I was expecting some details. I want covers and what actual content can we expect. Are we getting new version or not?? What the heck is the second DVD??? We need to know.

Evan Odinson 20th February 2021 01:52 PM

Best part of the reveal was the Mike Wazowski tribute


DaNNy_aYu 20th February 2021 01:52 PM

Happy for JEWEL, Together When..., CAROLS, HEAVEN and fated. The other ones are not among my favourites but they were obvious choices!

the3ye 20th February 2021 01:56 PM

So, it really is another live compilation on dvd/bd discs :(

ayuPanda 20th February 2021 01:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Toniayu123 (Post 3335496)
The disappointment hit real hard lol I like the song choices, so glad they included fated. But I was expecting some details. I want covers and what actual content can we expect. Are we getting new version or not?? What the heck is the second DVD??? We need to know.

Ayu clearly wrote, they only show a few songs that will be part of A BALLADS 2. Nothing more. And the list is out right now, minutes before you wrote. Second DVD/Bluray will be with rare/not released live content.
https://avex.jp/ayu/discography/

Toniayu123 20th February 2021 01:58 PM

So no PoM8 or Trouble CDL on the extra DVD :weep Okay, saving my money then.

the3ye 20th February 2021 02:16 PM

I'm more worried that the partial tracklist doesn't say if we are getting new mixes, remixes, or new vocals ><

RealLight 20th February 2021 02:19 PM

^ It's been stated since day 1 there won't be any of these

thinkingoutloud89 20th February 2021 02:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealLight (Post 3335504)
^ It's been stated since day 1 there won't be any of these

no? They just didn't say it will be

Chibi-Chan 20th February 2021 02:22 PM

This was disappointing. Also, I don't like the tracklist, it's boring. Especially Momentum, No way to say, Together when and Days have a very similar sound, same goes for Moon and fated. I only really care for Moments, Jewel, CAROLS and HEAVEN. Also, I won't spend money on a simple compilation.
It's sad that everybody in here is basically like "yeah I won't expect anything from this release" when we all know she has it in her to create something as amazing as the original A BALLADS. Back then she challenged avex when they were to release A BEST and made the most of it in the way they would let her. Now she is releasing something that falls short in every way when it comes to the original A BALLADS and is even more pointless than A BEST could have ever been, while being in a way more powerful position than her younger self. I know that she is capable of releasing great albums, even when they fall under best of/compilation, which is why I find this all the more disappointing.

Toniayu123 20th February 2021 02:27 PM

^exactly this. There are more details to be known but if this ends up being how it is pointing out to be, it will be such an uninteresting release.

Evan Odinson 20th February 2021 02:27 PM

I'm really excited for the cover photos now, can't wait to see them!

Ryusei 20th February 2021 02:34 PM

The dramatics... it's a best of album, which are aimed at the general public (even if she gets most of her sales from the fanbase) and somehow it feels like some people expect unreleased songs from the eras or some live in her living room in 2005 nobody knew existed or some sh*t.

If this was an original album i'd understand the disappointment but it's a compilation album and it's doing exactly that, compiling ballads and live performances.

Don't like it? Don't buy it. It's that easy.

I think we all had rather had a new album that we've been waiting for forever but it is what it is, can't do anything about it.

thinkingoutloud89 20th February 2021 02:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chibi-Chan (Post 3335506)
This was disappointing. Also, I don't like the tracklist, it's boring. Especially Momentum, No way to say, Together when and Days have a very similar sound, same goes for Moon and fated. I only really care for Moments, Jewel, CAROLS and HEAVEN. Also, I won't spend money on a simple compilation.
It's sad that everybody in here is basically like "yeah I won't expect anything from this release" when we all know she has it in her to create something as amazing as the original A BALLADS. Back then she challenged avex when they were to release A BEST and made the most of it in the way they would let her. Now she is releasing something that falls short in every way when it comes to the original A BALLADS and is even more pointless than A BEST could have ever been, while being in a way more powerful position than her younger self. I know that she is capable of releasing great albums, even when they fall under best of/compilation, which is why I find this all the more disappointing.

exactly - I'm also very disappointed. i won't have purchased any version anyways, but i also feel bad for those who wanted the 4 Disc set. It's a joke with everything she released. This is basically A SUMMER BEST as a Ballad.

Some people her don't realize that pushing for new mixes or alternate versions just means that it would make it feel like a worthy addition to her catalogue - releasing it this way makes a mockery of A BALLADS and tey could have simply waited for A BEST 3 and do this as a playlist.

I can only hope that it at least triggers the nostalgic feelings of some pople that were teens around 2003+.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryusei (Post 3335509)
The dramatics... it's a best of album, which are aimed at the general public (even if she gets most of her sales from the fanbase) and somehow it feels like some people expect unreleased songs from the eras or some live in her living room in 2005 nobody knew existed or some sh*t.

If this was an original album i'd understand the disappointment but it's a compilation album and it's doing exactly that, compiling ballads and live performances.

Don't like it? Don't buy it. It's that easy.

I think we all had rather had a new album that we've been waiting for forever but it is what it is, can't do anything about it.


that is not the point. I also don't think anyone wants a bunch of new songs. There is just zero effort put into this. Even the DVD contents does not make sense - those could have fitted on one.
I don't think it is asked to much if you want at least one or two fresh takes on something on this. As I said before, compilations like this aren't needed in todays streaming society. If you want money from people, you should make it worth as a company. Simply stating "just don't buy it then" doesn't help anyone. Releasing it this way also tarnishes fans expectations and views on an artist - and if it happens again and again it certainly won't help to keep them for more years.

edit: the argument just don't buy it" could also very easy be reversed as "just don't release it, if you don't offer anything new".

tokyoxjapanxfan 20th February 2021 02:41 PM

It would’ve been nice if it was a vote, considering that’s how a ballads track list was originally selected.

RealLight 20th February 2021 02:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ryusei (Post 3335509)
The dramatics... it's a best of album, which are aimed at the general public (even if she gets most of her sales from the fanbase) and somehow it feels like some people expect unreleased songs from the eras or some live in her living room in 2005 nobody knew existed or some sh*t.

This

thinkingoutloud89 20th February 2021 02:42 PM

^I don't think the outcome would have been much different tho XD

Quote:

Originally Posted by RealLight (Post 3335512)
This

still not helping. if you say "just don't buy it" everytime to her fanbase she wouldn't even have one and there would be no songs to but on lazy playlist in CD form. It's a stupid argument from the get go.

koumori 20th February 2021 02:45 PM

Repeating some of the DVD content from the BEST LIVE BOX is a yikes. I won't be buying this, I hope those that do enjoy the content either way.

Deep snow 20th February 2021 02:49 PM

okay so that happened!

the songs included are not at all surprising. like some of you pointed out—she never really announced any new mixes, so, yeah. it's very likely that it's going to be an A SUMMER BEST-style track list of her most popular ballads (i.e. all original mixes), with Pray for you as the last song of DISC 2. I do find it uninspired if BOTH of the DVDs/BluRays would only consist of live performances though—then again, I don't know what I was expecting, either.

I've lost all of my initial overexcitement for this release :laugh I'm happy for people who are anticipating this album, and I sincerely hope Pray for you doesn't turn out to be the filler song its instrumental sounds to be!

RealLight 20th February 2021 02:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by thinkingoutloud89 (Post 3335513)
^I don't think the outcome would have been much different tho XD

still not helping. if you say "just don't buy it" everytime to her fanbase she wouldn't even have one and there would be no songs to but on lazy playlist in CD form. It's a stupid argument from the get go.

.

Why you quoting me with this if I didn't agree with that part of his comment?

Cahz- 20th February 2021 02:55 PM

The tracks are not just being put there, they're being remastered, that alone makes this release worthy for me.
Plus the second Dvd performances are not found on other releases (At least, the four performances shown.)

thinkingoutloud89 20th February 2021 02:59 PM

^because it was the quittessence of "its a compilation album, don't be dramatic". i think stating that this release falls flat is not dramatic. I best most people don't even get worked up on this, but they won't buy it anymore which in the end is a problem in the bigger picture of ayus career.

RealLight 20th February 2021 03:00 PM

Oh, okay

surrealA 20th February 2021 03:04 PM

disappointed in the dvd/bluray content so far... what can they reveal next week?

Deep snow 20th February 2021 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by surrealA (Post 3335521)
disappointed in the dvd/bluray content so far... what can they reveal next week?

most likely the ballads from 2010–onwards, part of the finished Pray for you, aaaaaaand the jacket cover art at the last few seconds of the preview.

thomas 20th February 2021 03:09 PM

Even though it's a lazy release I'm still happy with remastered versions. :) But I still can't see why they decided to make this A Ballads 2 instead of another digital compilation like they do for other artists. If only they released the live versions on CD instead of the studio versions. I prefer Ayu's live vocals over her studio vocals.

voguehoney 20th February 2021 03:15 PM

Omg

I hope ayu can learn from Namie Amuro who seriously to make new re-reconding (or new mix) on Best Album,that is a reason for why Namie's BALLADA would have sold very good

pedronekoi 20th February 2021 03:46 PM

I really liked the surprise of releasing two TV performances! I wonder if they will also add Virgin road performance from Kouhaku! I'm hoping for more unreleased tour content like the CDL Touble! :)

Earth_maiden 20th February 2021 04:56 PM

So do we get one Bluray of PVS and a second Bluray of lives? I'm a little confused...

AndyF 20th February 2021 05:04 PM

Her classic ballads included. I'm not surprised and I like the tracklist. The odd thing is the release of A BALALDS 2 instead of A BEST 3, it would be much more interesting to release the latter on her debut anniversary.

KPL 20th February 2021 05:09 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AndyF (Post 3335529)
Her classic ballads included. I'm not surprised and I like the tracklist. The odd thing is the release of A BALALDS 2 instead of A BEST 3, it would be much more interesting to release the latter on her debut anniversary.

At this point I think A BEST 3 might end up being A BEST -FINAL- with 8 discs released upon her eventual retirement...

koumori 20th February 2021 05:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Earth_maiden (Post 3335528)
So do we get one Bluray of PVS and a second Bluray of lives? I'm a little confused...

Both blu-ray discs are a live compilation. The second disc is rare/unreleased lives, like some from Kouhaku and the Xmas Live. The first disc has some that were on the BEST LIVE BOX and general concerts.

What we know so far for the blu-ray/dvd contents:

Blu-ray(DISC-3)
※曲順未定

01 No way to say (ayumi hamasaki ARENA TOUR 2003-2004 A
02 CAROLS (ayumi hamasaki ARENA TOUR 2005 A ~MY STORY~)
03 HEAVEN (ayumi hamasaki 15th Anniversary TOUR ~A BEST LIVE~)
04 Days (ayumi hamasaki ARENA TOUR 2009 A ~NEXT LEVEL~)
05 fated (ayumi hamasaki COUNTDOWN LIVE 2007-2008 Anniversary)
06 MOON (ayumi hamasaki ARENA TOUR 2016 A~M(A)DE IN JAPAN~)

Blu-ray(DISC-4)
※曲順未定

01 Moments (第55回NHK紅白歌合戦)
02 JEWEL (第57回NHK紅白歌合戦)
03 momentum (ayumi hamasaki Special SHOWCASE ~Xmas Eve 2020~)
04 Together When... (ayumi hamasaki COUNTDOWN LIVE 2018-2019 A -TROUBLE-)

This is now on the official website.

KPL 20th February 2021 05:16 PM

I got a feeling that ayu is not very personally enthusiastic about release, except for recording maybe the new song. Otherwise her instagram will have a lot more teasers, think about Ohia no hi, DaD, or even TROUBLE

Earth_maiden 20th February 2021 05:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by koumori (Post 3335531)


Both blu-ray discs are a live compilation. The second disc is rare/unreleased lives, like some from Kouhaku and the Xmas Live. The first disc has some that were on the BEST LIVE BOX and general concerts.

What we know so far for the blu-ray/dvd contents:

Blu-ray(DISC-3)
※曲順未定

01 No way to say (ayumi hamasaki ARENA TOUR 2003-2004 A
02 CAROLS (ayumi hamasaki ARENA TOUR 2005 A ~MY STORY~)
03 HEAVEN (ayumi hamasaki 15th Anniversary TOUR ~A BEST LIVE~)
04 Days (ayumi hamasaki ARENA TOUR 2009 A ~NEXT LEVEL~)
05 fated (ayumi hamasaki COUNTDOWN LIVE 2007-2008 Anniversary)
06 MOON (ayumi hamasaki ARENA TOUR 2016 A~M(A)DE IN JAPAN~)

Blu-ray(DISC-4)
※曲順未定

01 Moments (第55回NHK紅白歌合戦)
02 JEWEL (第57回NHK紅白歌合戦)
03 momentum (ayumi hamasaki Special SHOWCASE ~Xmas Eve 2020~)
04 Together When... (ayumi hamasaki COUNTDOWN LIVE 2018-2019 A -TROUBLE-)

This is now on the official website.

Ooo okay thanks for the info, I haven't checked the website check. :)

Anna.L 20th February 2021 05:26 PM

what are the chances for new songs like pray for you?

koumori 20th February 2021 05:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Earth_maiden (Post 3335534)
Ooo okay thanks for the info, I haven't checked the website check. :)

No worries, the initial announcement times are always so hectic :laugh

Quote:

Originally Posted by Anna.L (Post 3335535)
what are the chances for new songs like pray for you?

I'd say Pray for you is a likely inclusion, but who knows.

summerain 20th February 2021 06:09 PM

The only thing that really annoys me is the 4:3 aspect ratio and non-HD quality of Kouhaku's Moments performance. We have that in HD since forever and they're gonna release this in an upscaled version???

And about Ayu enthusiasm: she always made it very clear she's more into live performances than releasing albums. She's a great album producer, but she's an even greater performance. The stage is her home, so I'm not surprised at all about this.

Aderianu 20th February 2021 07:44 PM

I'm disappointed with video content

URANUS 20th February 2021 07:54 PM

I hope there's more content in this album or else I won't be buying it. One new song or two new songs with a high budget music video would seal the deal for me.

ohsixthirty 20th February 2021 08:04 PM

Glad I saved my money.

KPL 20th February 2021 08:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by URANUS (Post 3335540)
I hope there's more content in this album or else I won't be buying it. One new song or two new songs with a high budget music video would seal the deal for me.

I bet that Pray for you is the only new song and the MV, if any, will be a compilation of random live performances :mischief

love in music 20th February 2021 08:37 PM

I don't really have any issues with the song choices. None of the songs on the tracklist so far I want new vocals or arrangements of since the ones I did want different arrangements of already have the amazing orchestra versions. I'm just paranoid of not getting any new vocals/arrangements at all. I really want the A BALLADS albums to be a special thing where interesting new vocals/arrangements are included. I just love that idea so much.

I hope we get more info on everything soon.

jbrat2219 20th February 2021 10:23 PM

I hope they got the predictable reveal out of the way to make room for surprises. I really want You Were... and Virgin Road, at the very least! I know I won't get my hidden gems like sweet scar lol.

thinkingoutloud89 20th February 2021 10:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by love in music (Post 3335544)
I don't really have any issues with the song choices. None of the songs on the tracklist so far I want new vocals or arrangements of since the ones I did want different arrangements of already have the amazing orchestra versions. I'm just paranoid of not getting any new vocals/arrangements at all. I really want the A BALLADS albums to be a special thing where interesting new vocals/arrangements are included. I just love that idea so much.

I hope we get more info on everything soon.

exactly. I don't mind compilations for the general public or even fans, but naming it A BALLADS makes it a follow up to something that already showed how it can be done.

I love all the songs on this, don't get me wrong. but everything up to A COMPLETE was already remastered and a remaster does not work wonders on every song. I don't need new arrangements and stuff - but it is nice to have since I already have these songs - some of them even twice or three times if I wanted to.

As for me, if it isn't completely different i will only keep the songs once in my itunes - on the original album it appears on. Otherwise the playcount is wrong and it won't show u in playlist since it does not count the play for the song on all albums. So if this does not offer anything new, I won't ver be listening to this.

DonkeyKongRemix 20th February 2021 11:13 PM

I'm excited for Together When... because I think it's one her best tracks. I'm not really surprised though.

It would be nice to have decent remastered versions of some of the A One tracks since their quality was, imo, somewhat unfortunate.

jbrat2219 21st February 2021 12:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by nalini-dahlia (Post 3335549)
It would be nice to have decent remastered versions of some of the A One tracks since their quality was, imo, somewhat unfortunate.

I know! It's one of my favorite albums but I'm starting to notice how subpar the mastering is.

Zeke. 21st February 2021 01:05 AM

The disappointment is warranted.

The issue here is that which has been prevalent for a while. The willingness to dilute, almost be cause for, the demise of a brand. Of an idea. Despite being the position to do so much more with it.

It should be worrying how fans are taking to the turn of promise on this release. “A BALLADS” is something I think really only fans get and appreciate. It should be a release that pays homage to that. If the point was to create something for only the general public, then it’s a slap in the face to dub this as part of “A BALLADS” canon.

If they wanted to entice the general public, hoping fans would come along for the ride too, then they could have very well put together a playlist or something else instead. It feels like they’re driving a dagger further into their own heart, giving fans further reason to give up hope - to stop believing in the magic.

Chibi-Chan 21st February 2021 01:30 AM

^Exactly. I totally feel what you're saying with the "to stop believing in the magic" part. I feel as if especially younger fans and people who follow her not as long don't care as much about this as others do. But as a fan for almost 20 years, it almost breaks my heart to not be able to feel and experience the magic anymore since quite a while now. I don't want a "good" or "decent" release, I want a "magical" one. Ayu is my favourite artist, because I know she can create something magical and I'm holding her to her own standard when it comes to new releases. If this is what A BALLADS 2 is going to look like, she is making a mockery out of the original one. I wouldn't care as much if she would have announced "A COMPLETE BALLAD COMPILATON" instead. It would have been clear what to expect from the beginning. But calling this A BALLADS 2 sets a standard and an expectation and especially her long time fans who remember the release of the original one will be disappointed.

visionfactory 21st February 2021 01:53 AM

I'm too excited about the TV material!! It's pretty early in her career to get these I'm surprised

I hope it sells decently as much as Avex needs to survive

hanabi2 21st February 2021 04:08 AM

guess it's copyright issue we can only get the NHK performances, if only it can include all TV performances of songs!!

Zeke. 21st February 2021 04:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Chibi-Chan (Post 3335554)
^Exactly. I totally feel what you're saying with the "to stop believing in the magic" part. I feel as if especially younger fans and people who follow her not as long don't care as much about this as others do. But as a fan for almost 20 years, it almost breaks my heart to not be able to feel and experience the magic anymore since quite a while now. I don't want a "good" or "decent" release, I want a "magical" one. Ayu is my favourite artist, because I know she can create something magical and I'm holding her to her own standard when it comes to new releases. If this is what A BALLADS 2 is going to look like, she is making a mockery out of the original one. I wouldn't care as much if she would have announced "A COMPLETE BALLAD COMPILATON" instead. It would have been clear what to expect from the beginning. But calling this A BALLADS 2 sets a standard and an expectation and especially her long time fans who remember the release of the original one will be disappointed.

Exactly. I posted this analogy a while ago describing the phenomenon and the sad sort of demise of it, called something like “The Door” - I think about it often because it really captures the scenario well for me.

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I think also, singles provide for the opportunity to deliver a concept. A mini "world" and environment can be fleshed out from the songs and turned into a visual spectacle. It allows for a bit of extravagance, and the world of Hamasaki Ayumi seems much larger and expansive when you look back on a year and see all the different places she took you with her paintings of works. It's like the door opens every 3 months and it's a new place to explore, a new vision to be seen. I miss that feeling of waiting for the door to open again, and the curiosity as to what we will be shown this time. As the release date grew closer, we'd all have our ears pressed to that door, peaking through its keyhole. We'd begin to see a glimpse and hear muffled sounds (covers, snippets, CM spots) - processing the tease of what's to come. That's how I remember it.

It happens once a year now, and it seems to close faster than ever before. Also, it rarely feels like a world at all anymore. It's like a closet door with creaky floorboards and cobwebs. You can tell someone made an effort to clean it up; there are finger trails left in the piles of accumulated dust - but you always feel like more of an effort could have been made to really make that room shine. And you think to yourself "ah, I guess this is how it is now," and you try to accept the fact. But, when you leave that room, and after the door shuts once more, you can't help but wonder if when the next time it opens, what it would be like to see the room completely luminous again.
We’re all crowded around that door right now. Hoping and expecting that when the door opens, it will dazzle and bask us in light.

roxaskh2fm 21st February 2021 04:42 AM

I'm happy with the tracklist, but the first DVD/BR is really boring.

The second sounds promising. Hope that she includes something from JtB 2

Xianghua 21st February 2021 07:10 AM

They’re gonna have part 2 tonight at 7.

summerain 21st February 2021 07:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Xianghua (Post 3335562)
They’re gonna have part 2 tonight at 7.

I thought it would be only next week. Good.

P.S.: omg, guys, I guess you're all overreacting to this. Chill.

kendelle 21st February 2021 07:34 AM

I love the tracklist but the footage choice is pretty lackluster.

The chosen performances are certainly amongst her most iconic. I have nothing against using them to announce the listing...I'm kinda over just repackaging the old concerts. Some of them are lower quality than we already have, are they planning to sell it like this again?

They got one Kouhaku appearance, why not just have the discs be a HD compilation of her performances over the years? It's one of her most public facing activities and would be a cool collection for fans and casual buyers.

Seems strange to go to the effort of getting rights to TV broadcasts but not committing to it.

Next teaser is next Saturday Japan time. I guess the third part will include a preview of vocals for Pray for you?

tokyoxjapanxfan 21st February 2021 09:58 AM

The next part is next Saturday not tonight :)

280301 21st February 2021 10:04 AM

I like the tracklist so far...but I'm not going to lie, I think that this release is going to be what a lot of us thought it would likely end up being...and that makes me sad.

Xianghua 21st February 2021 10:44 AM

Did I misread the tweet?

Corvina 21st February 2021 11:00 AM

No, you didn't.
The newest tweet indeed says there's going to be another A Ballads 2 annoucement today 7 pm JST after the one yesterday.

https://mobile.twitter.com/ayu_19980...92420431958018

Looks like they might have changed their plan.

Chibi-Chan 21st February 2021 11:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Zeke. (Post 3335558)
Exactly. I posted this analogy a while ago describing the phenomenon and the sad sort of demise of it, called something like “The Door” - I think about it often because it really captures the scenario well for me.



We’re all crowded around that door right now. Hoping and expecting that when the door opens, it will dazzle and bask us in light.

I think this analogy fits perfectly and it is exactly how I feel.


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