Wow.. the chart run is really bad. Thought it'll stay at least 20 weeks in the charts.
Thank you for the information.

sigh, high-highly unlikely..just hope that the 10th anniversary singles and concerts will help to push GUILTY's sales.

secret chart run about 18 weeks..
so GUILTY will do like that i think

Update:

1st+2nd Week:

Position: #2
Sales: 432,113

3rd Week:

Position: #2
Sales: 72,027

4th Week:

Position: #7
Sales: 24,715

5th Week:

Position: #19
Sales: 12,340

6th Week:

Position: #23
Sales: 8,826

7th Week:

Position: #40
Sales: 4,371

8th Week:

Position: #43
Sales: 3,392

9th Week:

Position: #79
Sales: 2,004

10th Week:

Position: #91
Sales: 1,886

11th Week:

Position: #134
Sales: 1,371

12th Week (Wil be updated after the 12th week stats will be revealed)

Total Sales Until Now: 563,045.

^Not bad after all!
*Crosses fingers to reach 566k mark* ^^,

after look at other female artist sales...
i think ayu sales still really strong...

^ yeap. i wonder how well utada's album will do...

no doubt.. i think hikki will sell very well
i hope this week still sell 1K

12th Week:

*,564,290 **1,245 GUILTY / 浜崎あゆみ 08/01/01

Thanks alot. Great, just a slight decrease.

Thank you! The decrease from last week is less than 200 copise!
2,000 more and it enters the less than 100,000 range of Secret!

yaiy..
the chart is going steadier....

hope it can long run chart

564,000 is not too bad for GUILTY. Hopefully it will last a bit longer on the charts, 570K would be awesome. ;D

what is the position actually???

Aww...seems like Guilty will fall short of 570K. I hope it can stratch to 570K though. :yes

go GUILTY!

that's awesome! secret to guilty has the least decrease in sales compared to her other studio albums :D

I think the reason there wasn't a huge decrease from Secret to GUILTY is that there are a lot of major things happening for Ayu right now that bring a lot of attention to her music. She has her 10th anniversary thing, a new Asia tour, loss of hearing, etc.

^ That's right, these are added publicity on top of the heavy promotions which were going on when GUILTY was released.

Update:

1st+2nd Week:

Position: #2
Sales: 432,113

3rd Week:

Position: #2
Sales: 72,027

4th Week:

Position: #7
Sales: 24,715

5th Week:

Position: #19
Sales: 12,340

6th Week:

Position: #23
Sales: 8,826

7th Week:

Position: #40
Sales: 4,371

8th Week:

Position: #43
Sales: 3,392

9th Week:

Position: #79
Sales: 2,004

10th Week:

Position: #91
Sales: 1,886

11th Week:

Position: #134
Sales: 1,371

12th Week:

Position: #145
Sales:1,245

13th Week (Will be revealed later this week)

Total Sales Until Now: 564,290.

^ so the position is 145...

okay..
i'll edit the 1st page

thanks,dude

These are pretty good sales. :)
Yay ayu!!

i found in indonesian chart for february's chart i think GUILTY is 2nd highest sales for asian CD chart...

asian chart :
1. L'arc en ciel (KISS) 2,296 copies
2. ayumi hamasaki (GUILTY) 1971 copies
* namie amuro (PLAY) 767 copies ( i dont know the position)

for overall indonesian chart

GUILTY got #21
L'arc en ciel (KISS) #15
Namie Amuro (Play) #56

NB : i dont know this is accurate or not

^Where did you get that ranking?

You're welcome!

@ riozz : source please, for the Indonesian chart?

@ ayumisrael : how did you find the sales number? Oricon only display the top30 on the chart! Link, please!?

A Friend of mine send me weekly, weekly sales (in a word doc -_-)he can't give me link to the source he takes it from.


141　138　**1,276　1,141,214　*72　絢香 「First Message」
143　130　**1,258　2,466,529　308　小田和正 「自己ベスト」
145　134　**1,245　*,564,290　*12　浜崎あゆみ 「GUILTY」
146　126　**1,237　*,119,357　*12　レディオヘッド 「イン・レインボウズ」
152　142　**1,188　*,151,824　104　RADWIMPS 「RADWIMPS 3～無人島に持っていき忘れた一枚～」
156　178　**1,156　*,147,562　*34　リアーナ 「グッド・ガール・ゴーン・バッド」
158　147　**1,116　*,*61,360　*13　のだめカンタービレ 「のだめカンタービレ スペシャル BEST!」
164　155　**1,058　1,605,518　168　EXILE 「PERFECT BEST」

Some numbers from last week.

^no links, heh...

thx anyway, thx to your friend too!!

my friend told me...
he asked the store or what i dont know..
he just said the position and total sales in ayufreak..
so that's why i said it's accurate or not i dunno
:D

^well said,,then we just need to believe....

tah..
hopefully it's correct because the chart quite good.

wiiiwwwww...

first message - ayaka sold higher than ayu.

You're welcome ^-^
Yeah he's pretty discreet about it lol, I'm sure they're from some oricon blogs or something though.

ok...
i think 2k is pretty high sales...
remember that pirates is everywhere in indonesia

^ yah..
and you know there are alot of fans prefer buy import dan local production

You can have all oricon's numbers if you are members (paid).
http://ranking.oricon.co.jp/

^ weeww.. we should pay to get the info??
awful

118 136 **1,593 *,526,225 *36 安室奈美惠 「PLAY」
145 134 **1,245 *,564,290 *12 浜崎あゆみ 「GUILTY」


at week 36 of [PLAY] , it sold ever more then week 12 of GUILTY...

:irked :irked :irked :irked it don't looked good

OMG...
play sell higher than GUILTY..
poor ayu.
maybe because 60s70s80s realese give good impact for play album

But GUILTY sold more overall and it's still charting =P

60s70s80s pretty much gave PLAY a boost most likely.

namie is also STILL charting after more than 9 months and even higher then ayu's

it doesn't matter only around 40K, not much different imo ...in a few months time both will be around the same

look at the progression of these two jpop queen:

(2000)
ayumi hamasaki Duty : 2,904,420
namie amuro break the rules : 334,520

(2003)
ayumi hamasaki Memorial address : 1,062,297
namie amuro STYLE : 221,874

(2008)
ayumi hamasaki GUILTY : 564,290
namie amuro PLAY : 526,225

the difference was used to be SO MUCH...now? it's barely.

I'm pretty sure he gets the numbers from the 2ch message board.

I'm not surprised of Namie getting more popular and Ayu selling less. Namie's music style IMO attracts more people now. As for Ayu, she has been sticking with the same music genre, except for the hardcore rock that is getting less and less popular in Japan. HIGH and MIGHTY COLOR (a rock band) aren't as popular as they were when they debuted. Right now, people seems to be a lot more into urban or mellow rock like YUI, ayaka, Kobukuro... Pop is slowing fading away.

namie is going the creative and ever changing style of music, while new comers like ayaka, YUI are going the simple yet new/refreshing style of music..

ayu is just going the same flashy, high-production, depressing lyrics, emotional songs, fancy PVs she did for years and years....

when you do something the same for too long a time, it's normal for ppl to get bored and uninterested with it, it's reality...

Basically becaues ayu's getting a bit less popular after every album?

I would compare Secret sales with PLAY though, last year general sales were better than this year :yes

i will compare their most RECENT work...

if you want i can compare namie's SWEET 19 BLUES and ayu's A song for XX but it don't make sense...why compare secret to namie's latest play?

Well, I don't necessarily agree that Namie's style is "ever-changing". For me, she's always sort of going with the same style of music. But it's always really catchy and she's really different from other urban singers.

Agree though that artist like ayaka are refreshing. I've always been a huge fan of the mellow rock genre with really instruments and all that.

It's true that Ayu likes to go with the fancy and flashy stuff. I wish she stopped doing all that though. It seems like she's more about being glamorous now. I prefer the old days when she used to just wear a shirt and jeans in a TV perf. and look damn cool.

Obviously because GUILTY was released 2 months ago. You could compare Namie's latest album sales PLAY that was released 8 months ago, to ayu's lastest album Secret that was released 7 months before PLAY (you could do it just 2 months ago).
Now that is not fair is it?

And it's obvious ayu's album sales won't go up if something special wouldn't occure.

but isn't it obvious that namie PLAY should STOP charting after 9 months of release??? But look what happened now? Do you think given 9 months after GULITY release it will still be charting at all? It's selling less then PLAY only in it 12th week!

SO it should be unfair to compare PLAY with GUILTY and not the other way round! PLAY was released so long back it should be dead and gone while GUILTY should be selling quite well since it just released 2 months back... but now the situation is opposite!

Ayu isn't a long charter no more, I wouldn't be surprised that in 9 months GUILTY would stop charting.

Because it's sold the most at the first 2 weeks (like always) and ayu didn't release any triple a-side single/album since then that will keep it charting?

Generally ayu's chart life wasn't even great on Secret and miss albums.

Hip hop is a niche genre in Japan, it's not very popular. Pop is still the dominant form of music, by far.

Ayu is getting less popular because her music is getting less mainstream and she's been pretty damn overexposed the for the last decade. People get sick of you when your face is everywhere.

But artists like Morning Musume, BoA and Ai Otsuka aren't really getting more popular though. Instead, we have artists like Namie, Koda, GReeeeN, Ken Hirai, EXILE getting more fame.

What will keep it charting depends on the singles that was released for the album and the promotion though the live concerts..

for namie, her PLAY tour did A LOT of promotion for the album...those who can't decide or dun buy PLAY, when they went to her PLAY tour 2007, they are WOW!!! and immediately go buy her album...so it still charting very well

for ayu, her concerts dun even feature much of her new album songs, only her regular old school songs, that's why it's hard to promote her new album to those who never listened/bought it yet...

Actually, Ayu's last 3 tours since MY STORY all have mostly the new album's tracks.

Well there was a tour to promote Secret, but Secret didn't chart anymore until the tour came and she sang most of the songs from that album (until that Day..., 1 LOVE, kiss o' kill, momentum, JEWEL, Secret and there were Not yet, LABYRINTH, tankist) she didn't sing Startin', BLUE BIRD, BF and Born To Be... because she already sanged them. So much for old school songs but at the end ayu sings most of the new albums songs and leave out 1 or 2 unsanged which is pretty normal.
I think that Tour though was more to promote her in ASIA. She's really successful out there it seems.

no...i dun think so

there's only like 3~4 new album tracks in the concert while all the rest are her new singles or old singles...

for PLAY TOUR, she performed ALL the songs in the album! You practically listened to the whole album when you go for the concert which is a +++ for the promotion...

The only artist that actually produces R&B listed there is Ken Hirai, and he's in a pretty big slump. The others may have some hip hop influenced tracks, but they're all famous for their ballads. Namie and Kuu's pop/kawaii singles always do better than their other tracks. While select pop artists are going downhill, that has more to do with their own failure to evolve than the slump of pop music; JE bands are still dominating the industry.

I think this year's sales will be a bit better than last year's.

Yet the only song from Secret that were never sang live is It was
from (miss) - criminal, In The Corner
MY STORY - HOPE or PAIN, Liar

etc. She just leaves 1-2 songs out that she never perform (or will perform in the future), I think it's mainly because ayu loves to balance old and new songs and I do think it's better because it's full of fans flavors, but new songs as well to get them recognised to the fans and make them a show combined with the old songs, rather than a whole new album and just 3 old songs or something, but those are preferences and ways of an artist to do a show.

Let's see... MY STORY tour had:
1. WONDERLAND
2. Kaleidoscope
3. HAPPY ENDING
4. INSPIRE
7. GAME
8. my name's WOMEN
9. About You
10. Moments
11. walking proud
12. CAROLS
13. Catcher In The Light
14. HONEY
2. Humming 7/4
4. Replace

(miss)understood tour had:
1. Are You Wake Up?
5. STEP you
6. Ladies Night
7. alterna
8. is this LOVE?
9. (miss)understood
10. tasking
11. Pride
12. rainy day
15. Bold & Delicious
1. HEAVEN
6. Beautiful Day

Secret/ASIA tour had:
2. LABYRINTH
6. taskinst
7. 1 LOVE
8. until that Day...
14. Secret
16. kiss o' kill
18. Not yet
+ momentum and JEWEL at a few concerts too

^Born To Be... is in Secret.

She meant to the tours XD

Fixed, LOL. :P

I totally agree with this. :yes :dead2 She feels really fake when she's all about dresses and jewellery. I'm not saying that looking good and glamorous is a bad thing or anything (it's just good if you're attending a special occasion or something) but it's almost like she's like that all the time (expect at concert encores etc).
I liked t2m style because it was raw and sort of messy and not "is my hair looking good? I just spent billions of money to this dress~~ Gosh my fake lashes are falling off..." =___=''
I like Ayu's style during her earlier career years, when she could look stylish and cool but still real and wore less makeup. Like that military-style dress she wore at some "NEVER EVER" perfomance looked good on her even though it was really simple and didn't look like a overdecorated christmas tree. And Ayu is pretty with a minimal amount of makeup :P
was this very off-topic? :laugh

So in other words I think she should become less commercial and be natural and real again in public too (not only at her concerts and so on), since I think that's what most of people in Japan loved about her most at first. And it could help to increase her sales. :cool

Totally dissagree! She is more than a simple singer, she's an icon such as Madonna! She's all about fashion and style! She's a DIVA!

i have a different idea..
this year will become her 2nd lower sales after 1998 era...

i predict she can sell 1,2 million copies this year

^Talking about general sales.

Do you know by any chance if ayu already sold overall more than 20 million albums copies?

600k guilty
~ 100k ayumix 6
~ 200k new single
~ 100k asian tour 2007
~ 200k another single

yes...1.2milion

countdown 2007-2008? I don't remember it

*,565,314 **1,024 GUILTY / 浜崎あゆみ 08/01/01

stop all these comarison its kinda useless imo
compare it when BOTH OF THEM RELEASE ALBUM ON SAME DAY, SAME TRACKS!!!
and with no ppl downloading the album online

^its still selling thousand...gd gd...

Yay, the sales are still good!

Ayumi is known for being larger than life, in a sense, so I actually expect her to come up with flashy outfits, flashy choreography, flashy makeup, etc. Why isn't she humble and modest? Because she's the J-Pop EMPRESS.

Right! Let Hikki be humble and modest, that's what make her unique. Flashy outfits, makeup, choreographies make ayu unique!

About sells, ayu still really strong!

I hope the album stays for a long time in the charts.. And it goes up at least a little with the Asia Tour! Anyway, the sales are good, not her best but still good ^^

i like ayu's over-the-top outfits, however, i do miss when she was more relatable. girls used to imitate her, now they really can't...she doesn't wear stuff that's practical--which isn't a bad thing, as her outfits are amazing. But they're definitely costumey :P Her "greatful days" performances were some of my favorites, style wise. she was rockin' the von dutch hats back then xD those hats are barely worn now haha

thanks for the info..
i will edit 1st page...

seems the sales will end for 20 weeks on chart
i wish more than that

only 565K total?!?! what's up with THAT. :o

She has. 22-26 million depending if you want to count her remix albums or not.

i count from wikipedia her album sales total without remix album is 22,031,881

Thank you! and riozz!
Why oricon made a spazz when she sold over 20 million single copies but not when she sold over 20 million albums though?

There's actually nothing wrong with it (unless if you thought she will sell 10 billions forever) :o and it's still charting! 565k isn't a low number :yes

yah..
this is what i want to ask....

when it had reached 20 million copies??
secret maybe??

Position

^ YES! 1k more to reach 566k!!! X3

Update:

1st+2nd Week:

Position: #2
Sales: 432,113

3rd Week:

Position: #2
Sales: 72,027

4th Week:

Position: #7
Sales: 24,715

5th Week:

Position: #19
Sales: 12,340

6th Week:

Position: #23
Sales: 8,826

7th Week:

Position: #40
Sales: 4,371

8th Week:

Position: #43
Sales: 3,392

9th Week:

Position: #79
Sales: 2,004

10th Week:

Position: #91
Sales: 1,886

11th Week:

Position: #134
Sales: 1,371

12th Week:

Position: #145
Sales:1,245

13th Week

Position: #188
Sales: 1,024

14th Week (Will be revealed later in the week)

Total Sales Until Now: 565,314.

Cool, 565k!
*prays for 570k*

Thanks for the info!

At which position do Oricon stop counting the sales?

300 for albums, 200 for singles.

Hmm....well, your prayers might be answered. It looks like she can make it to 570K by the end of next month. The album just needs to sell steady and slow like it is now. :yes I hope she can make it to 580K by the end of the summer.

lets hope next week can sell at least 1K

Yeah, it would be awesome if it kept selling like that for a while~
Just how much does touring increase sales though? I want to know if I can increase my expectations to 600k~ that would be so cool :cool

sales from outside the concert arenas during tours don't count towards the charts do they? I always wonder about that.

I think it's counted.

*8 *,566,114 ***,800 GUILTY / 浜崎あゆみ 08/01/01

I'm sure GUILTY is able to rise to 1000 and above again.

WARghh.. ayu got #8 now :(
this position same with (miss)understood..

hope it wont fall down again/....

and thanks for the info.. i will edit 1st page

AT LAST!
566K mark!

She needs to pass to the 568K mark by next two weeks if she had a 1000K+/- sales.

it's already 14 weeks on chart..
secret on chart for 18 weeks..
so it should in chart for 4 weeks more..hope can be like that

^ I hope "GUILTY" should stay-alive at the charts at least 3 more weeks or more.