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zeejia 16th January 2011 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 2611919)
The position is the least important thing, there are albums that sell 20k and get #1 :)

I mean u actually meant 2k++ and get no. 1, lol:shakehead

njanjayrp 16th January 2011 12:58 PM

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Originally Posted by zeejia (Post 2611923)
I mean u actually meant 2k++ and get no. 1, lol:shakehead

On dailies, yes :)

Bad Wolf 16th January 2011 06:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 2611919)
The position is the least important thing, there are albums that sell 20k and get #1 :)

You're such a little black raincloud, you know that? O_o Sale figures mean **** to me. Flat out, they mean absolute **** to me. The fact that something can reach and maintain a top ten position is THE most important thing to me. Dir en grey, another band I love, never really has high sales at all, but they've maintained top ten positions for a few of their recent releases, and that makes me proud of them. I couldn't give a crap less how much they sell.

jbrat2219 16th January 2011 08:34 PM

It IS impressive that she's in the top 10 still regardless of what she sells. If she sold 10 copies and is still in the top 10, it's impressive LOL.

Pieces_of_SEVEN 16th January 2011 08:47 PM

I wish the actual sales numbers would be put up.

Nackar_91 17th January 2011 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by InoriNoUta (Post 2612160)
You're such a little black raincloud, you know that? O_o Sale figures mean **** to me. Flat out, they mean absolute **** to me. The fact that something can reach and maintain a top ten position is THE most important thing to me. Dir en grey, another band I love, never really has high sales at all, but they've maintained top ten positions for a few of their recent releases, and that makes me proud of them. I couldn't give a crap less how much they sell.

Wow, maybe calm a little bit down?

Besides, we can all like what we want, but how is prefering sales over positions being negative? I'd rather have an artist I support be no. 7 with 23k sales in a strong week than no. 1 with 20k sales. O.o

How high something charts really only tells you how lucky/carefully planned a certain release is. Except when talking about certain groups like Mr. Children
and Arashi.

njanjayrp 17th January 2011 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InoriNoUta (Post 2612160)
You're such a little black raincloud, you know that? O_o Sale figures mean **** to me. Flat out, they mean absolute **** to me. The fact that something can reach and maintain a top ten position is THE most important thing to me. Dir en grey, another band I love, never really has high sales at all, but they've maintained top ten positions for a few of their recent releases, and that makes me proud of them. I couldn't give a crap less how much they sell.

Chill. No need to get upset. What means little to you means a lot to avex and Ayu :) Dir en grey is an amazing example of how little the position actually means. The position is really a very relative thing that ultimately means nothing.

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Originally Posted by Nackar_91 (Post 2612655)
Wow, maybe calm a little bit down?

Besides, we can all like what we want, but how is prefering sales over positions being negative? I'd rather have an artist I support be no. 7 with 23k sales in a strong week than no. 1 with 20k sales. O.o

How high something charts really only tells you how lucky/carefully planned a certain release is. Except when talking about certain groups like Mr. Children
and Arashi.

Exactly. The high position can be achieved thru careful planning more than anything else now days and Ayu's singles have pretty much proven that during the last few years (and not only hers ofc).

ayumisrael 17th January 2011 01:16 PM

7th Day
Position: #5

Bad Wolf 17th January 2011 04:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nackar_91 (Post 2612655)
Wow, maybe calm a little bit down?

Besides, we can all like what we want, but how is prefering sales over positions being negative? I'd rather have an artist I support be no. 7 with 23k sales in a strong week than no. 1 with 20k sales. O.o

How high something charts really only tells you how lucky/carefully planned a certain release is. Except when talking about certain groups like Mr. Children
and Arashi.

I don't need to calm down, because I'm not upset O_o Cursing =/= bad temper, you know.

I said what I said because there are some people who get all in a tizzy about sales figures, and I think that's a bit silly. I don't know why it's being blown out of proportion, but I guess I should have expressed more "lulz" and less "lol get over it" in my initial post. Oops. Oh well.

Yay #5 again \o/

freedreamer 17th January 2011 04:28 PM

Nice to see it maintaining
and HAHA second best selling album in Jan perhaps

Pieces_of_SEVEN 17th January 2011 05:54 PM

The chart positions for this album are really surprising me. lol

Nackar_91 17th January 2011 08:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by InoriNoUta (Post 2612732)
I don't need to calm down, because I'm not upset O_o Cursing =/= bad temper, you know.

I said what I said because there are some people who get all in a tizzy about sales figures, and I think that's a bit silly. I don't know why it's being blown out of proportion, but I guess I should have expressed more "lulz" and less "lol get over it" in my initial post. Oops. Oh well.

Yay #5 again \o/

The internet is the internet though, and everything will always be misunderstood. Go go!

I do agree about the people panicking. I care about sales and I'm interested in them, but if Ayu sells 100k for her next album I won't cry and ***** about it. I just like discussing it : P

AyumiAi 17th January 2011 08:24 PM

Good job ayu :)

jbrat2219 18th January 2011 12:21 AM

It's very obvious Ayu isn't too concerned with sales, there's a lot of freedom when you're not expected to sell above and beyond anymore. Imagine the day Arashi sells the amount Ayu does.

CHE.R.RY 18th January 2011 07:17 AM

Well it's doing an impressive job as far as charting goes, but sales not as much :(. It surprises me to hear that a lot of people are pretty sure it won't make it to 300k...In fact, I was hoping for at least 300k, but it certainly doesn't look that way so far.

brener 18th January 2011 07:55 AM

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Originally Posted by CHE.R.RY (Post 2613306)
Well it's doing an impressive job as far as charting goes, but sales not as much :(. It surprises me to hear that a lot of people are pretty sure it won't make it to 300k...In fact, I was hoping for at least 300k, but it certainly doesn't look that way so far.

of course it wont make 300k :~ it's sad.. but true :/ this album will have a short chart life

My Rainbow 18th January 2011 08:18 AM

by now, it's having a better chart life than her previous albums...

njanjayrp 18th January 2011 08:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbrat2219 (Post 2613089)
It's very obvious Ayu isn't too concerned with sales, there's a lot of freedom when you're not expected to sell above and beyond anymore. Imagine the day Arashi sells the amount Ayu does.

They've already been there :rolleyes

jbrat2219 18th January 2011 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by njanjayrp (Post 2613344)
They've already been there :rolleyes

I mean after the expectation of selling millions. I would imagine it would be a little weird at first.

ayumisrael 18th January 2011 11:40 AM

4th Week
Position: #5
Official Sales: 10,159
Official Total Sales: 249,438

5th Week

1st Day
Position: #6


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