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Party_King 28th September 2012 03:23 AM

1st thing:

PQ had a tv cm!


2nd thing:
i agree with the most posts here...
ayu can do what she likes to...
one thing that matters is, we love her, right?
i'm one of the fans would love to get a new single...
but if we don't get a new one... okay...
sooo... i'm really happy about the new releases...
we get a full album step by step...

sooo... let it be her decision ^^


PS: for the nelly furtado thing...
in germany she released Big Hoops or something like this...
but it failed too...

TeamAyu2004 28th September 2012 03:28 AM

^ i forgot that CM, but wasnt it released after the album came out??
or at least right before it came out.

Party_King 28th September 2012 03:31 AM

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Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 2913602)
^ i forgot that CM, but wasnt it released after the album came out??
or at least right before it came out.

idk... but it exists xD

happiholic★ 28th September 2012 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer (Post 2913186)
Well I don't believe any company that says they don't care about sales. Avex is a business not a charity after all. If they really didn't care about sales, they would put their money where their mouth is and release everything for free on digital download. It's business. It's marketing. Nothing more, nothing less.

I agree. And though I don't think that Ayu cares about chart positions (I think Avex does), I think she does care in part about sales. She needs to make money to keep up her lifestyle. If she was really in it for the music she could just go indie. I'm sure she at least chooses end products that will sell from the many things she creates.

Delirium-Zer0 28th September 2012 04:41 AM

Wow. That PQ CM had some of the worst editing I've ever seen...

truehappiness 28th September 2012 05:19 AM

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She needs to make money to keep up her lifestyle.
Well, she certainly tours enough to keep her lavish lifestyle imo.

TeamAyu2004 28th September 2012 06:27 AM

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Originally Posted by happiholic★ (Post 2913606)
I agree. And though I don't think that Ayu cares about chart positions (I think Avex does), I think she does care in part about sales. She needs to make money to keep up her lifestyle. If she was really in it for the music she could just go indie. I'm sure she at least chooses end products that will sell from the many things she creates.

about 80-90% of her money comes from touring.

happiholic★ 28th September 2012 07:34 AM

^Still, she needs to release songs that her fans are going to like and want to see live. Keep the fans interested. She would need to release music that sells decently to do that. And to tour the way she does and make that kind of money from it she would need to stick with Avex and keep them happy, which means selling well.

Tony G 28th September 2012 07:43 AM

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Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 2913655)
about 80-90% of her money comes from touring.

As with any artist or band. The margins from concerts are far greater than through CD sales, where royalties are paid to avex and each producer or arranger she uses. I wouldn't be surprised if she only for a couple hundred yen
from each CD sale.

This article seems to imply avex is in control of her release schedule, like she didn't choose to do 5 releases in 5 months. Very uninformed view. Avex is in charge of marketing Ayu's releases, and if they want to call it a mini-album, they can. Ayu probably won't get a say on that front. But in terms of what she releases and when, how frequently, that is all Ayu. She writes her music and is mostly in control of when she puts pen to paper (I say mostly because Ayu has posted of stresses to complete albums in time)

TeamAyu2004 28th September 2012 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by happiholic★ (Post 2913664)
^Still, she needs to release songs that her fans are going to like and want to see live. Keep the fans interested. She would need to release music that sells decently to do that. And to tour the way she does and make that kind of money from it she would need to stick with Avex and keep them happy, which means selling well.

I was just commenting on your last post. This post has nothing to do with what you said before.

You mentioned she needed to care about sells to keep her lifestyle.
I think at this point in her career, with over 200+ songs to choose from, she could continue to have concerts for the rest of her life, and they (the concerts) would never get old, and she would never need to make a new song.

Or, she could just make new songs and sing them at her concerts only. It would actually be a draw for people.

if you want to hear the latest stuff, you gotta go to her concert.

either way, you are talking about two totally different points.

happiholic★ 28th September 2012 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 2913672)
I was just commenting on your last post. This post has nothing to do with what you said before.

You mentioned she needed to care about sells to keep her lifestyle.
I think at this point in her career, with over 200+ songs to choose from, she could continue to have concerts for the rest of her life, and they (the concerts) would never get old, and she would never need to make a new song.

Or, she could just make new songs and sing them at her concerts only. It would actually be a draw for people.

if you want to hear the latest stuff, you gotta go to her concert.

either way, you are talking about two totally different points.

At first I stated that Ayu probably cares about sales, at least because the profits would go towards her personal bank account. You said that most of her money comes from concerts, so sales shouldn't matter to her. Since you were right about the concerts, I changed my reason for why she would care about sales. I then said that in order to have such profitable concerts she would still need to make profitable music. For one, because she would need new material to tour on, because in my opinion fans would lose interest. Also, I don't think that Avex would care much to keep around a singer that wanted to only tour. I feel like they would like to milk Ayu for all she's worth. Not that its wrong for them to do that, they are a business and want to have as much profit as possible.

truehappiness 28th September 2012 08:18 AM

Regarding this article, it's as if someone here decided to post some rant about how they felt about her lack of singles onto a blog imo. It's more speculation that's unfounded than anything concrete... there's not even anything from officials (usually the Japanese tabloids at least have 'inside accounts') that hints at whatever they're talking about.

Kind of bad form imo for Jpopasia to let staffers post blogs like this as 'news'.

As for 'new songs' for touring with... I think Ayu is one of a few acts who could probably tour with mostly old tracks and still rake in TONS of dough.

TeamAyu2004 28th September 2012 08:53 AM

^ yeah...
I think her concerts are about 80 % old material and 20 % new stuff.

also, jpopasia is a pretty bad place to get 'news'
its not really news, but what staffers of the website talk about...
and I think, anyone can post 'news' articles.

I for one would go to a concert of hers just to hear the stuff she has already released. wouldn't need to hear anything new ever again.
Like I said... she's got so many songs to work with and sooooo many different ways to share what she is feeling with those songs, she could tour till the day she died and her concerts would still seem fresh.

FoxyPinkGirl 28th September 2012 09:46 AM

The music industry world wide has changed since iTunes and MP3's/digital music became commercial in the early/mid 2000's and ending up replacing CDs (not completely of course, but is seen as preferred these days to physical releases. oddly enough, boxsets sell very very well). some bands and artists have decided to release their music on their own and their own way since the industry has changed so much. so it makes sense that avex is worrisome about releasing future singles and releases, in that breaking Ayu's record single streak. but on the other hand, she would be selling more units if she was promoted a little more before her releases are released/hits shelves and stores. but also, I'm not quite sure if she cares that much about her sales and/or charting position. one reason being her working with Leslie Kee on other projects a lot of the time and her contributions to other things not related to music like the nail book. she cares about her music and sales, but probably not as much as she used to say a few years back.

chu-lips 28th September 2012 10:02 AM

i read somewhere that she wishes to see a million selling album again in a magazine interview...

Jester 28th September 2012 10:30 AM

Actually they wait for her 15 Anniversary so they can release; A BEST 3, A BALLADS 2, A COMPLETE 2 ~50 Singles~, A WINTER BEST, A SPRING BEST, A AUTUMN BEST, A ULTIMATE SUPER DELUXE SPECIAL MOTHER FATHER ANNIVERSARY. So after that she will release single. LOL

thinkingoutloud89 28th September 2012 11:07 AM

I wonder if she will do two full length album to hae her 15th one out in april?!

mizuki-7 28th September 2012 12:02 PM

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i read somewhere that she wishes to see a million selling album again in a magazine interview...
It's a long time ago ! But I think it's normal when you have knew the real success and has been able to sell 4 million for an album and several million singles and your current sales fall under 150 K You wish to sold like before =)

Party_King 28th September 2012 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by mizuki-7 (Post 2913715)
It's a long time ago ! But I think it's normal when you have knew the real success and has been able to sell 4 million for an album and several million singles and your current sales fall under 150 K You wish to sold like before =)

just normal :thumbsup



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happiholic★ 28th September 2012 06:11 PM

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Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 2913683)
^ yeah...
I think her concerts are about 80 % old material and 20 % new stuff.

also, jpopasia is a pretty bad place to get 'news'
its not really news, but what staffers of the website talk about...
and I think, anyone can post 'news' articles.

I for one would go to a concert of hers just to hear the stuff she has already released. wouldn't need to hear anything new ever again.
Like I said... she's got so many songs to work with and sooooo many different ways to share what she is feeling with those songs, she could tour till the day she died and her concerts would still seem fresh.

I feel like only hardcore fans are the ones who would go to concerts to see old material. Casual listeners, not so much. I think new music would help draw the casual listeners. But, that's just me.


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