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Queen Bee 29th May 2006 06:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryoko
I'm guessing most of her fans are in their 20's now.

And I think the Koda bashing needs to stop now. And why shouldn't they favor Koda? She's selling well right now and she's popular. If you think about it, it's smart marketing. Ayu has already reached her peak, if you remember, she can carry her own.

Koda does not have to do with everything Ayu.

I think you are right. I was 14 or 15 when I started to listen to Ayu and now I'm 21 so I think Ayu has less teenage fans since Koda is now around and close to their age but I could be wrong.

immel 29th May 2006 06:27 PM

^Koda is not very much closer to their age than Ayu.

bluegie 29th May 2006 08:26 PM

i started listening to ayu when i was 19.. now i'm 25... yeah... one of those mid 20's ayu fan... LOL

Azmaria 29th May 2006 08:49 PM

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Azmaria 29th May 2006 08:49 PM

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SunshineSlayer 29th May 2006 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ayu_fan929

Arn't most Ayu fans from the older ages (like 20's)? Then doesn't mean that their fan bases are somewhat different?

She has fans of all ages, but most are in their teens and 20s.

At least the promo for Blue Bird is already looking better this time around in terms of the magazines she will be in. We'll have to find out from soysaucestar though about any promotion down on the street such as billboards, promo on vid screens, posters in the subways etc., because like I said there really wasn't any for Startin. So much so that if you hadn't watched Ayu on Music Station, you probabaly didn't know that she had a new single coming out.

Also, if I can just backtrack a bit. Earlier it was mentioned that Ayu is still Avex's priority because she had the higher tour and PV budgets. Normally I would agree 100% with that, but if you look at the PVs for Startin' and Born to Be, they have a relatively lower budget. I mean, compare those two PVs to Ladies Night and Rainy Day and it is obvious which videos had the higher production values - and those vids were album tracks! And then about the tour thing, we can't really judge that now until Koda goes on her next tour.

btw, this is a fun discussion. :)

immel 29th May 2006 09:05 PM

^All I know (or at least have heard from various places) is that Arena Tour 2006 is insanely expensive, especially due to the special "screens" they use, if you know which ones I mean.

SunshineSlayer 29th May 2006 09:09 PM

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Originally Posted by immel
^All I know (or at least have heard from various places) is that Arena Tour 2006 is insanely expensive, especially due to the special "screens" they use, if you know which ones I mean.

To me, in terms of the "wow" factor and use of effects and sets and costumes it looked like the My Story tour had more in that area. But there is no doubt both tours are expensive.

truehappiness 29th May 2006 09:27 PM

Perhaps the AT06 tour had more money towards the development of the merchandise than the 05 one? :O

Just wondering xD

SunshineSlayer 29th May 2006 09:46 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness
Perhaps the AT06 tour had more money towards the development of the merchandise than the 05 one? :O

Just wondering xD

I don't really think so. Especially considering that it is the exact same fan as last year, just with a different sticker on it. :)

Zeke. 29th May 2006 10:17 PM

You can't really blame Avex for wanting to make money... I mean, if you were the head of Avex, wouldn't you want to make money rather than lose it? Avex really isn't as bad as everyone thinks, although I am sort of going both ways on this...

Weren't Kumi's single sales for the 12 singles less than Ayu's single sales? But I guess you have to consider she did pretty well for releasing 12 singles one week after another...

Now about the 3A being demoted to 2A... I was really excited for a 3A single but now I am sort of glad that she is having only a 2A single, especially if both tracks are really good! As long as we have one AMAZING song on this single, I'll be happy. I really wish Ayu would add more album tracks to her albums; it's not only the fact that she is releasing too many A-sides on her singles, but also that she HAS MORE ROOM ON HER ALBUM(S) TO ADD MORE SONGS! Take a look at (m)u... It is around 66 minutes and an album can have up to 80 minutes...

I am speechless at the fact that Kumi is releasing a 4A single! Everyone talks how Kumi needs a brake from Avex but I am sure she is loving the attention and popularity! But seriously, Kumi is just milking the cow...

Well, I can't wait for this single, or Ku's for that matter!

SunshineSlayer 29th May 2006 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by anime_fanatic21
You can't really blame Avex for wanting to make money... I mean, if you were the head of Avex, wouldn't you want to make money rather than lose it? Avex really isn't as bad as everyone thinks, although I am sort of going both ways on this...

I agree that it makes sense for them to be focusing more on Kumi now than Ayu because they can't always rely on Ayu forever - I just don't like it. ;)

truehappiness 29th May 2006 10:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer
I agree that it makes sense for them to be focusing more on Kumi now than Ayu because they can't always rely on Ayu forever - I just don't like it. ;)

Well think of it like this..

Avex is now making millions and millions of yen cause of Koda. But this isn't going to last forever, as the public is like really fluctuate-y... so they'll probably end up drying Koda out and releasing some sort of giant collection of everything she's done by the end.. :/

Or not. xD I mean, if they really appreciated everything she did, wouldn't they pay her like a crazy amount and stuff? I wonder if she even goes against what they say for her to do... or if she just does it .. :/

When she rebels, something'll happen, yo. Just like Ayu.. avex can't rely on Koda forever.

ayu_fan929 29th May 2006 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by anime_fanatic21
Weren't Kumi's single sales for the 12 singles less than Ayu's single sales? But I guess you have to consider she did pretty well for releasing 12 singles one week after another...

Out of the 3 non-limited singles, 1 was pretty close to 200k, another sold over 130k, and the last sold 90k (low in comparison to others as it was released 2 weeks before ~second session~)

truehappiness 29th May 2006 10:44 PM

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Originally Posted by ayu_fan929
Out of the 3 non-limited singles, 1 was pretty close to 200k, another sold over 130k, and the last sold 90k (low in comparison to others as it was released 2 weeks before ~second session~)

It's anyone's guess why 'you' sold so much x.x

Why did that sell anyway? O_o;

Zeke. 29th May 2006 10:52 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness
It's anyone's guess why 'you' sold so much x.x

Why did that sell anyway? O_o;

Maybe because it was the START of the big 12 singles...

I also remember hearing something about if you put the books together you will get a special poster - was that untrue?

truehappiness 29th May 2006 10:56 PM

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Originally Posted by anime_fanatic21
Maybe because it was the START of the big 12 singles...

I also remember hearing something about if you put the books together you will get a special poster - was that untrue?

If you put all the singles on a rack thingie, then there'd by a naked Koda with a mic..

If you arrange the backs of the singles in a square thingie, you get the naked Koda but in a closeup. :/

Zeke. 29th May 2006 10:58 PM

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Originally Posted by truehappiness
If you put all the singles on a rack thingie, then there'd by a naked Koda with a mic..

If you arrange the backs of the singles in a square thingie, you get the naked Koda but in a closeup. :/

Was this the photo where her hair was black? I would like to see all the singles together to create this picture - but not just the pic in general - the singles side by side to make the photo

SunshineSlayer 29th May 2006 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ayu_fan929
Out of the 3 non-limited singles, 1 was pretty close to 200k, another sold over 130k, and the last sold 90k (low in comparison to others as it was released 2 weeks before ~second session~)

Also, all of the other singles were limited to 50,000 copies.

As for You selling so well, I think it had something to do with the PV. The PV seemed to be pretty popular.

Zeke. 29th May 2006 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by SunshineSlayer
Also, all of the other singles were limited to 50,000 copies.

As for You selling so well, I think it had something to do with the PV. The PV seemed to be pretty popular.

It wasn't a CD+DVD release, was it?


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