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Keishi 19th December 2006 04:50 PM

Yes she has. In polls like, artist you dislike the most.

omgpeachsnapple 19th December 2006 06:38 PM

Keishi, your set is adorable!!

I just had to say that; I've already said I liked Secret better. I absolutely hate the Won't Be long versions ... they make me cry. :(

DerrickRocks 19th December 2006 06:43 PM

I voted "BLACK CHERRY"!!!

Keishi 19th December 2006 06:49 PM

Thanks, omgpeachsnapple! :D :D :D


Yeah, WON'T BE LONG is awful. Any versions. >.>

Zeke. 19th December 2006 07:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Nani? (Post 978339)
Why was this thread even started in a Ayu forum, obviously all the Ayu fans are going to choose Secret over Black Cherry cos this is a forum for Ayu fans? This kinda thread should be posted on a JPop music forum not in a individual artists forum~ It just seems pointless to me~

First of all, 500 people have already mentioned this [lol]. Second of all, I made a poll once like "ULTRA BLUE vs. (miss)understood" and at one point ULTRA BLUE was higher and it has been a very close race, basically 50/50. In that case, I voted for ULTRA BLUE, although I love Ayu more than my family and friends [lol, jk]. I also wanted to hear what Kumi fans thought of the album as a whole and it seems most of them are dissapointed as well...
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Originally Posted by Keishi (Post 978419)
Yes she has. In polls like, artist you dislike the most.

Not true for only that poll - see above

BabyUtada 19th December 2006 09:48 PM

I like Won't Be Long, Keishi....^^
 
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Originally Posted by Keishi (Post 978489)
Yeah, WON'T BE LONG is awful. Any versions. >.>

I thought the version with Exile was worth listening and very good too.:) The other versions just sounded awful. Koda should have just left that version on the album instead of trying to be the breakout star here........:no

omgpeachsnapple 20th December 2006 12:36 AM

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Originally Posted by BabyUtada (Post 978600)
I thought the version with Exile was worth listening and very good too.:) The other versions just sounded awful. Koda should have just left that version on the album instead of trying to be the breakout star here........:no


I agreed. The Exile version was pretty good. Waaay better than the versions that got put onto the album.
Still, Black Cherry wasn't too bad. A bit of a let down but I like it better the more I listen to it.

s1012h 20th December 2006 04:20 AM

the visual aspect of Black Cherry makes up for the mediocre-ness of the music
that's what i think haha, the back cover is very niceeeeee
unlike the simpleness on Secret

XFER 20th December 2006 05:11 AM

I love Ayumi much more than Koda, but I was disappointed in "Secret", while "Black Cherry" was amazing. Right now, I'm listening to both albums again and see which one I will vote for, but i think Koda wins.

Keishi 20th December 2006 06:22 AM

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Originally Posted by anime_fanatic21 (Post 978509)
First of all, 500 people have already mentioned this [lol]. Second of all, I made a poll once like "ULTRA BLUE vs. (miss)understood" and at one point ULTRA BLUE was higher and it has been a very close race, basically 50/50. In that case, I voted for ULTRA BLUE, although I love Ayu more than my family and friends [lol, jk]. I also wanted to hear what Kumi fans thought of the album as a whole and it seems most of them are dissapointed as well...

I can understand if you compare Utada Hikaru to Ayumi Hamasaki. But you're comparing Koda Kumi to Ayumi Hamasaki? Wow. I don't know what to say really. I honestly do not see any sense in that.


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Originally Posted by BabyUtada (Post 978600)
I thought the version with Exile was worth listening and very good too.:) The other versions just sounded awful. Koda should have just left that version on the album instead of trying to be the breakout star here........:no

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Originally Posted by omgpeachsnapple (Post 978710)
I agreed. The Exile version was pretty good. Waaay better than the versions that got put onto the album.
Still, Black Cherry wasn't too bad. A bit of a let down but I like it better the more I listen to it.

Please guys, opinions! Opinions!!! For God's sake.

mininamie 20th December 2006 08:13 AM

Both albums were pretty boring I feel as Kumi's album was another best album, I only care for track 1 and 2. I mean Black Cherry was a mess. It went from Indian rap crap to pop cutesy music. As for Secret, I felt as that album was "rushed". So It could possibly compete with Black Cherry. I think if ayumi could have waited, released like one or two other singles, the album could have been successful. Everything on Secret sounds the same almost. 1Love and Jewel sounded like album tracks, both very bland. If I had to choose I'd pick Black Cherry because even though it sounded like a mix CD it had at least 5 good tracks on it as Secret didn't have any.

Kaiouforever 20th December 2006 10:03 AM

I think expectation-wise, I was expecting a lot more from Ayu. I get a rushed, lazy feeling from "Secret" while I feel like Kuu has been putting a lot more work into her material. So, expectation-wise, I think Black Cherry would win, but everything Ayu sings I fall in love with, so i'm not sure which one to vote for.

SeasonsCall 20th December 2006 10:17 AM

Secret.

Black Cherry is a fine album, and worthy of selling whatever it does, but I can't embrace anything by Koda as much as I can Ayu's work. To me, she just doesn't have all of Ayu's creative spark and consistency.

That said, she still has lots of very good, enjoyable songs on this and other albums.

Mad_Cactuar 20th December 2006 12:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Keishi (Post 978419)
Yes she has. In polls like, artist you dislike the most.

No, in the 'who will sell most' poll. Come on, we're not all Koda-haters like you think. Just because a few of the members are rotten apples and bad seeds, you don't need to be an entity of pessimism.

Keishi 20th December 2006 01:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Mad_Cactuar (Post 979042)
No, in the 'who will sell most' poll. Come on, we're not all Koda-haters like you think. Just because a few of the members are rotten apples and bad seeds, you don't need to be an entity of pessimism.

I don't get what this line means. O_O
Yes few members are rotten apples and bad seeds. That is why I try to prove them that they are wrong.

Psychotic_X 20th December 2006 03:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Nani? (Post 979107)
Another thing that irritates me is when people compare Kuu's new Black Cherry to another best album? I mean WTF? Was she just not supposed to put the single tracks on her album? C'mon then you may as well call Ayu's Secret a best album~

Actually you can basically call Black Cherry a Best album...
Basically its all released tracks and like 3/4 new songs...

Whereas Secret has liek 8 new tracks...
But most albums only have like 4/5 new songs anyways... What differs from Black Cherry and those albums eg. BoA's Outgrow is that Outgrow didn't have like 8/9 released tracks on it....

Keishi 20th December 2006 03:53 PM

Best album should conclude artists' hits from a certain period of time (like from debut to the current time).

Which means Black Cherry =/= Best album.

s1012h 20th December 2006 04:41 PM

there's no avoiding threads like this
and it's great to hear other people's opinions
and there's bound to be at least one person trying to defend the one who is losing the poll
but i think MOST voters actually took time to listen to both albums

it's koda and ayu
of course people are gonna pit them against each other to see what people think

paperbag 20th December 2006 04:49 PM

Secret.

I was really hoping to like Black Cherry. Now I'm glad I didn't buy it. Kuu dissapointed me again! Most of the album tracks are weak and I agree that her singles were better than the new material. I even grew to like Koi no Tsubomi. :yes The only album song I like is Get Up&Move!! Everything else is....:cry

Keishi 20th December 2006 04:49 PM

This poll is silly because:
+Black Cherry has just released. It hasn't grow on most people yet. While Secret has.
+This is an Ayu forum. With a large amounts of Anti-Koda Ayumites.


And s1012h, because your statement "it's Koda and Ayu" is a bit questionable. Koda's fame was just a year ago O_O


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