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ayumisrael 16th April 2008 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by andrepaul (Post 1422175)
Honestly, it's normal to be suspicious.
No proof that they cheated but no proof they didn't cheated.

Yep, and since we will never know if they did anything the subject can be dropped already because it's just going in circles =P

Jwiz 16th April 2008 07:15 PM

I hope that there won't be such incidents (close competitions) anytime soon..i cant take the pressure XD

ownsarai 16th April 2008 07:36 PM

Avex magic, huh? So basically everyone thinks that Avex just gave Ayu #1 because of her Anniversary? They think that Avex themselves bought copies of Mirrocle World? xD I think this is the funniest load of crap I've ever heard. Why can't people just accept the fact that Ayu is the queen of Japanese pop music, period. People love her and her music and they are really supporting her...is it so unheard of to support your favorite artist? Like everyone said, Avex has been promoting MW pretty heavily, so I can see how she got so many copies sold, especially since she has a different re-sung track for each version. So why accuse Avex of doing something when there is no proof?

Cyria 16th April 2008 07:36 PM

I'm really happy Ayu didn't lose her #1 streak with the anniversary single.

apple-pi 16th April 2008 08:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Luv ~Venus~ (Post 1421950)
1. It was AVEX magic that got her a #1 not Ayumi (okay a little bit of her).

2. Dude, I'm going to type this in bold letters so that you and co-ayu obsessed fans can read this: FOR PEAK FREAKIN' SAKE, LISTEN TO SOMEONE OTHER AYU FOR A FREAKIN' CHANGE! SHE IS NOT THE FREAKIN' QUEEN OF J-POP. SHE IS NOT J-POP! SHE IS NOT J-MUSIC.

3. So what if she got #1 with Craptastic World? Congrats to her with another #1..for the 123456789th time. Nothing new.....just like her music. :rolleyes

4. I really really really really hope you guys do not kill yourselves with her #1 streak is broken!

5. LIGHTEN UP! AYUMI IS NOT PERFECT. Laugh at her a few times. JEEEEESUS! If you can't make a few jokes about Ayu then DON'T make a few jokes about Koda Kumi or Namie or Hikki or anyone of that fact.

-rant ends-

I luv Ayumi too but you guys are keep making seem like she's perfect. Yes, this is an Ayumi forum but stop making it seem like you're gonna kill urselves if she doesn't get a #1 or if she sales like crap. It's not the end of the freakin' world if she doesn't get a #1 or sale well. For the love of humanity, if you don't have nothing nice to say about other artists like Hikki (Yes I said Hikki) then don't say nothin' at all. All this she's boring...lalala this lalala that is so freakin' old now. We all know that Hikki will outsell Ayu. Not only Hikki but Kuu as well.<~Stop talkin' trash about her. Get to know Kuu/Hikki before judging them. THANK YOU!

-rant truly ends right here-

I am EXTREMELY happy that Ayu got #1, however I did not think for a single moment that it would be the end of the world if she didn't get it o__o just because people are celebrating like crazy, doesn't mean they're obsessed to the point where they'd kill themselves or go desperate because of something like this. Right now, everyone who wanted her to win is really happy, and basically you're saying "Stop celebrating and stop being so happy about it, damn it!" which is really, really weird o__o

Second of all, I know that when that person said "AYU IS BETTER THAN YOUR FAVORITE ARTIST, ACCEPT IT" it sounds kinda like bashing people who dislike Ayu, and saying that they MUST love Ayu just because. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and each person has different tastes, so of course they'd have a different favorite artist. Just because they don't like Ayu, doesn't mean that what they like to hear is crap. However, when you say things like "Ayu's music is boring" or "Craptastic World" you're pretty much bashing Ayu for no reason, and accusing all the people that like her or her music, or maybe even just this one single, of having bad taste. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it's bad. PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENTE TASTES.

Plus, just because I love Ayu (I'll admit to be a bit obsessed with her sometimes) it doesn't mean that I consider her or her music THE most importante thing in my life, and it most certainly doesn't mean that I think she's perfect, and the fact that she's my favorite artist DOES NOT mean that I think she is THE ONLY artist in the J-Pop world. Please, just don't generalize like that. Oh, and if someone wants to listent o Ayu and Ayu alone, it doesn't really have anything to do with you anyway. No one's stopping you from listening to the music you like, and if fans who are too obsessed annoy you, just stay away from them >______< they are entitled to listen to whatever and whoever they want.

And I'll be the 38743985763895th person to say it: there is no proof that avex cheated MW's way into the #1 spot. You have all the right to think that way, I personally think it might have happenned or not and I don't really care, I don't think anyone here really minds if you believe in that, but PLEASE don't say it as if it were something you're absolutely sure of, fact that no one can deny. Can't everyone just make a deal and STOP the "avex magic" talk once and for all? It's getting really repetitive.

By the way, I don't like Hikaru's and Kumi's music, but I have nothing against them and have never said anything bad about them. You tell people to stop bashing Kumi, to stop saying Hikki's boring, yet you're doing the EXACT same things with Ayu. That makes it look like you think your favorite artists should have special treatment, or something. I'm not saying that's what you said, but that's what you make it sound like.

To finnish my point, I don't dislike you, from what I've seen of you around the forum you seem like a nice, funny person ~ but this is getting pretty weird, and I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish here.

cttncandy 16th April 2008 08:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apple-pi (Post 1422699)
You tell people to stop bashing Kumi, to stop saying Hikki's boring, yet you're doing the EXACT same things with Ayu. That makes it look like you think your favorite artists should have special treatment, or something. I'm not saying that's what you said, but that's what you make it sound like.
.

:yes:yes:yes

Peger 16th April 2008 08:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luv ~Venus~ (Post 1421950)
1. It was AVEX magic that got her a #1 not Ayumi (okay a little bit of her).

2. Dude, I'm going to type this in bold letters so that you and co-ayu obsessed fans can read this: FOR PEAK FREAKIN' SAKE, LISTEN TO SOMEONE OTHER AYU FOR A FREAKIN' CHANGE! SHE IS NOT THE FREAKIN' QUEEN OF J-POP. SHE IS NOT J-POP! SHE IS NOT J-MUSIC.

3. So what if she got #1 with Craptastic World? Congrats to her with another #1..for the 123456789th time. Nothing new.....just like her music. :rolleyes

4. I really really really really hope you guys do not kill yourselves with her #1 streak is broken!

5. LIGHTEN UP! AYUMI IS NOT PERFECT. Laugh at her a few times. JEEEEESUS! If you can't make a few jokes about Ayu then DON'T make a few jokes about Koda Kumi or Namie or Hikki or anyone of that fact.

-rant ends-

I luv Ayumi too but you guys are keep making seem like she's perfect. Yes, this is an Ayumi forum but stop making it seem like you're gonna kill urselves if she doesn't get a #1 or if she sales like crap. It's not the end of the freakin' world if she doesn't get a #1 or sale well. For the love of humanity, if you don't have nothing nice to say about other artists like Hikki (Yes I said Hikki) then don't say nothin' at all. All this she's boring...lalala this lalala that is so freakin' old now. We all know that Hikki will outsell Ayu. Not only Hikki but Kuu as well.<~Stop talkin' trash about her. Get to know Kuu/Hikki before judging them. THANK YOU!

-rant truly ends right here-


I agree with this but if you replace Ayu with Hikki the same goes for you so you should probably sit down.

zoomzoom 16th April 2008 08:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apple-pi (Post 1422699)
Right now, everyone who wanted her to win is really happy, and basically you're saying "Stop celebrating and stop being so happy about it, damn it!" which is really, really weird o__o

Some people are bitter inside, they get enjoyment out of brining other people's happiness down. It's kinda sad.

Quote:

Originally Posted by apple-pi (Post 1422699)
You tell people to stop bashing Kumi, to stop saying Hikki's boring, yet you're doing the EXACT same things with Ayu. That makes it look like you think your favorite artists should have special treatment, or something. I'm not saying that's what you said, but that's what you make it sound like.

To finnish my point, I don't dislike you, from what I've seen of you around the forum you seem like a nice, funny person ~ but this is getting pretty weird, and I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish here.

Agreed :yes

With the sales thing, it's just nice to see an artists you like succeed. I don't see the problem, but some people are like that.

dark_the_guitarist 16th April 2008 09:30 PM

I hope that Mirrorcle World would last longer in the chart , and of course.... Sell More.....

=)

Coelacanth 16th April 2008 10:18 PM

Ayu is #2 on the Single Sales chart on Billboard. Thought I'd just point that out.

http://www.billboard-japan.com/top.html

apple-pi 16th April 2008 10:22 PM

What's that? A ringtone chart? (btw thanks for the info ^^)

Luv ~Venus~ 16th April 2008 10:26 PM

^No. It's like Oricon but like more detailed...as you say. (Instead of just adding a singles sales, it also counts its airplay.)

Ayumiko 16th April 2008 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by apple-pi (Post 1422699)
I am EXTREMELY happy that Ayu got #1, however I did not think for a single moment that it would be the end of the world if she didn't get it o__o just because people are celebrating like crazy, doesn't mean they're obsessed to the point where they'd kill themselves or go desperate because of something like this. Right now, everyone who wanted her to win is really happy, and basically you're saying "Stop celebrating and stop being so happy about it, damn it!" which is really, really weird o__o

Second of all, I know that when that person said "AYU IS BETTER THAN YOUR FAVORITE ARTIST, ACCEPT IT" it sounds kinda like bashing people who dislike Ayu, and saying that they MUST love Ayu just because. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and each person has different tastes, so of course they'd have a different favorite artist. Just because they don't like Ayu, doesn't mean that what they like to hear is crap. However, when you say things like "Ayu's music is boring" or "Craptastic World" you're pretty much bashing Ayu for no reason, and accusing all the people that like her or her music, or maybe even just this one single, of having bad taste. Just because you don't like it, doesn't mean it's bad. PEOPLE HAVE DIFFERENTE TASTES.

Plus, just because I love Ayu (I'll admit to be a bit obsessed with her sometimes) it doesn't mean that I consider her or her music THE most importante thing in my life, and it most certainly doesn't mean that I think she's perfect, and the fact that she's my favorite artist DOES NOT mean that I think she is THE ONLY artist in the J-Pop world. Please, just don't generalize like that. Oh, and if someone wants to listent o Ayu and Ayu alone, it doesn't really have anything to do with you anyway. No one's stopping you from listening to the music you like, and if fans who are too obsessed annoy you, just stay away from them >______< they are entitled to listen to whatever and whoever they want.

And I'll be the 38743985763895th person to say it: there is no proof that avex cheated MW's way into the #1 spot. You have all the right to think that way, I personally think it might have happenned or not and I don't really care, I don't think anyone here really minds if you believe in that, but PLEASE don't say it as if it were something you're absolutely sure of, fact that no one can deny. Can't everyone just make a deal and STOP the "avex magic" talk once and for all? It's getting really repetitive.

By the way, I don't like Hikaru's and Kumi's music, but I have nothing against them and have never said anything bad about them. You tell people to stop bashing Kumi, to stop saying Hikki's boring, yet you're doing the EXACT same things with Ayu. That makes it look like you think your favorite artists should have special treatment, or something. I'm not saying that's what you said, but that's what you make it sound like.

To finnish my point, I don't dislike you, from what I've seen of you around the forum you seem like a nice, funny person ~ but this is getting pretty weird, and I'm not sure what you're trying to accomplish here.


Thank you very much! You pretty much said want I wanted to say. :clapclap It's pretty annoying when ppl try to make ayu fans look like they can't live without ayu and her #1s coz she's the goddess and the queen of the world...:rolleyes and they say ayu fans bashes so and so but they don't realize what they are doing...doing just as bad if not worse. Even though ayu is my favorite artist, I listen to other artists as well.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coelacanth (Post 1422844)
Ayu is #2 on the Single Sales chart on Billboard. Thought I'd just point that out.

http://www.billboard-japan.com/top.html

Thanks for sharing! #2 is very good!

apple-pi 16th April 2008 10:46 PM

Luv ~Venus~: Oh okay, thanks for the info!

1 - 羞恥心 / 羞恥心 PC / PCCA02665 / 2008 04 09 1
2 69 浜崎あゆみ / Mirrorcle World AVT / AVCD31432 / 2008 04 08 2
3 6 ザ・フージアーズ / グッバイ・ミスター・A SMJI / SICP1775 / 2008 04 09 4

What are these numbers supposed to be? The first number seems to be the position... but then Shuchishin has a - and a 1, Ayu has a 69 and a 2, and the 3rd place has a 6 and 4~ Seems so weird XD

ayu_fan929 16th April 2008 10:58 PM

Last week Mirrorcle World was 69th. Shuchishin debuted at #1 this week.

andrepaul 16th April 2008 11:08 PM

This is the single chart of billboard.

Quote:

1 - 羞恥心 / 羞恥心
2 - 浜崎あゆみ / Mirrorcle World
3 - ZARD / 翼を広げて/愛は暗闇の中で
4 3 安室奈美恵 / 60s 70s 80s
5 5 青山 テルマ feat SoulJa / そばにいるね
6 1 L'Arc~en~Ciel / DRINK IT DOWN
7 - 徳永英明 / 抱きしめてあげる/花束
8 2 244ENDLI-x / Kurikaesu 春
9 7 ジェロ / 海雪
10 6 水森かおり / 輪島朝市

austin. ♥ 16th April 2008 11:09 PM

No.

fanmail 16th April 2008 11:13 PM

Don't you guys have anything better to do than sit and cyber argue amonst yourselves about Ayumi Hamasaki and her #1?

Go outside. PLEASE. :tired

Olw---A 16th April 2008 11:24 PM

NUMBER ONE... AGAIN... not a surprise but HAPPY ANNIVERSARY !!!

Zeke. 17th April 2008 01:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Luv ~Venus~ (Post 1421950)
1. It was AVEX magic that got her a #1 not Ayumi (okay a little bit of her).

2. Dude, I'm going to type this in bold letters so that you and co-ayu obsessed fans can read this: FOR PEAK FREAKIN' SAKE, LISTEN TO SOMEONE OTHER AYU FOR A FREAKIN' CHANGE! SHE IS NOT THE FREAKIN' QUEEN OF J-POP. SHE IS NOT J-POP! SHE IS NOT J-MUSIC.

3. So what if she got #1 with Craptastic World? Congrats to her with another #1..for the 123456789th time. Nothing new.....just like her music. :rolleyes

4. I really really really really hope you guys do not kill yourselves with her #1 streak is broken!

5. LIGHTEN UP! AYUMI IS NOT PERFECT. Laugh at her a few times. JEEEEESUS! If you can't make a few jokes about Ayu then DON'T make a few jokes about Koda Kumi or Namie or Hikki or anyone of that fact.

-rant ends-

I luv Ayumi too but you guys are keep making seem like she's perfect. Yes, this is an Ayumi forum but stop making it seem like you're gonna kill urselves if she doesn't get a #1 or if she sales like crap. It's not the end of the freakin' world if she doesn't get a #1 or sale well. For the love of humanity, if you don't have nothing nice to say about other artists like Hikki (Yes I said Hikki) then don't say nothin' at all. All this she's boring...lalala this lalala that is so freakin' old now. We all know that Hikki will outsell Ayu. Not only Hikki but Kuu as well.<~Stop talkin' trash about her. Get to know Kuu/Hikki before judging them. THANK YOU!

-rant truly ends right here-

Ok you need to chill out. There is nothing wrong with hoping that Ayu hits number one and just to let you know I listen to many different artists other than Ayu - although she is the only one that I sacrafice my pet gerbils to on the nights of full moon...

JK, but really. It seems Ayu is ecstatic she got the #1 spot in the end so why can't everyong be happy for her? I'm not bashing any other artists - that's really not my thing - but it really gets to me when I constantly am reading these negative things about Ayu, especially on her 10th anniversary year. It's not jokes that I get angered at, I always find them hilarious but these are truly negative comments I am talking about that bother me. Ayu has been through a lot and worked harder than anyone to get where she is today so people need to lay off. I mean, she is an icon - like it or not - and THAT is a FACT.


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