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AyUta 10th June 2009 04:50 AM

^ That's true. :no Aw shucks. I really do hope she steps it up though. I really don't like IDJ, even Hikki said they were hard to work with.

emi♡ 10th June 2009 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by amorphose (Post 1974750)
^I know exactly what you mean and how you're feeling. From the minute I heard CBTM on that flash page in January or whenever that was, all I did was try and expose her to my friends and family and even random people! I've gotten a complete of complete strangers to take note of her by making small talk. It's just all become frustrating for me at this point and I feel like I've done more promotion for the album than she has or cares too. I want her to be successful because I think her music is amazing, and I feel she deserves it. But like you said, if she doesn't care, why should we?

She's even slacking on her Japanese work right now-- I mean we're less than 20 days away from when this Evangelion movie is supposed to come out and not even an official announcement yet!

The whole deal is just making me bitter. She says that she wants to be this honest, down-to-earth person and not let her head get too big from being a popstar, but honestly sitting on your ass and expecting your **** to sell because of who you are is worse than being a diva in my opinion.

I know she's not like Kuu or even Ayu when it comes to her release schedule but sickness aside, she's been very lazy recently! Do your job correctly or don't do it at all, please.

Sorry, [/end rant] I just feel like she's disrespecting her fans right now. And please, anyone try and feed me "she's sick, it's not her fault" because if she's sitting at home in bed, she could at least roll over and post a blog. I bet she's having a hoot with Kuma right now. >.<

[/end rant] (for real this time) :headache

um okay. Well you don't have to be a fan if you don't like her...no one is forcing you.

I never really felt like Hikki really cared about the album as much, or I mean, was serious at all, as in the case of say BoA, about her English release and her future here...other people for some reason felt different.

I think that she had to do another album, and she'd been thinking about it, and she decided that she would just make her pop album and throw her mix of music in that SHE likes, and then she'd go back to Japan and continue her experimental stuff.

Hikki was never a big promoter or anything...so I don't really see what the big deal is...we used to wait ages for new stuff from her.

Maybe it's just me...I don't care if she doesn't care, or if she's a diva, or worse than a diva. The chick makes great music, that she actually writes and everything.

She can do whatever she wants. Of course it would be nice if she cared...I kind of feel like the down to earth persona thing was amplified more by other people than actually her. She seems to take her music and her status very seriously...but you really have to like read into her responses and what she says to kind of understand her.

Andrenekoi 10th June 2009 05:16 AM

Being lazy recently?
These new and spoiled Utada fans... xD

Polyrhythm 10th June 2009 05:29 AM

She was the only one who stood a chance as an Asian artist making it big in the U.S...and she's basically letting it deteriorate. I mean, she broke the top 100 already, #69, first time for a Japanese artist in like 22 years....first Japanese to break top 20 on iTunes chart...first to reach #2 in iTunes pop....so effortlessly...I mean look at everything BoA is doing, she's already on top of her game with her 3rd single....but Utada has a chance of making it without going through all that.....she's come so far but she's giving it all up...as I'm writing this...I'm starting to feel like I'm not really giving Utada the credit she deserves. Renewed faith. If anyone can do it, she's definitely the one to watch. Hope she comes back soon with a strong second single.

amorphose 10th June 2009 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 1974809)
Being lazy recently?
These new and spoiled Utada fans... xD

Umm... if you were referring to me, I've been a fan of Utada's since 2003, when her hiatus for EXODUS started so I'm definitely not new or spoiled.

I just think she has been being lazy recently. She was back on her game for ULTRA BLUE and HEART STATION, now what's happening? Can't she just be steady, or what?

Polyrhythm 10th June 2009 06:47 AM

^Maybe she's referring to me? Ive only been an Utada fan since 2005.

amorphose 10th June 2009 07:06 AM

Yeah, I'm not trying to start anything, I just thought she may be talking about me because her post was almost a direct repetition of what I said in my post.

I don't want people to think I'm not an Utada fan or that I'm trying to bash her or something. Like I said, I'm just upset with the way she's handling things right now and I figured people wouldn't get upset if I expressed that feeling here.

I'll just drop it now so no one gets offended or something. We'll all be happy once we get to hear the new Japanese song, regardless. :P

Oh, and btw, I wouldn't consider you a new Utada fan if you've been around since before ULTRA BLUE. Most of her North American fanbase formed between the first to KH games.

CoriKaru 10th June 2009 08:24 AM

Um wow.

All I have to say is that I don't assume I know anything about what's going on. I'm not angry in the least bit.

And you all know whenever Utada posts her next blog entry it'll be explaining the situation and updating us and possibly apologizing and then the reactions will be the complete opposite as it always tends to happen. These obligatory infamous "Utada Slumps", the the majority of us are so use to by now. Takes time to create your own music. Except this time it was because she got sick. Some of these comments are just distasteful. Wasn't going to say it but they are.

(Just assumed A LOT)

Sundae 10th June 2009 08:35 AM

That Evangelion song has to be done by now. They have to put that song in the movie and then make copies that will go out to the different theaters. That takes time and with less than 20 days left they need all that time left. They just haven't used it yet.

If they are waiting for Utada, then that means that Utada is out of commission for one reason or another. Maybe she had a set back or maybe she got her tonsils out. I don't think EMI would miss this opportunity to release this song as a single.

I feel that if even if Utada didn't feel like releasing this album, IDJ wouldn't miss the chance at promoting this album. TITO is much more easier to promote than Exodus was. It did much better than EXODUS. Even with EXODUS, they continued to release singles for it so TITO is due one soon. Maybe she's making the music video. A new single for TITO should be chosen soon because CBTM is losing/lost stream.

Polyrhythm 10th June 2009 08:37 AM

^Uh....Sony? @_@ I didnt know Utada was affiliated with Sony.

Sundae 10th June 2009 08:47 AM

Right EMI :headache I was writing in another forum about Sony so I had Sony in the brain.

Andrenekoi 10th June 2009 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by amorphose (Post 1974904)
Umm... if you were referring to me, I've been a fan of Utada's since 2003, when her hiatus for EXODUS started so I'm definitely not new or spoiled.

I just think she has been being lazy recently. She was back on her game for ULTRA BLUE and HEART STATION, now what's happening? Can't she just be steady, or what?

Sorry for being rude, but... Utada almost aways promotes this way... HS promotion was diferent from Ultra Blue, Exodus and Deep River promotions... usually she just releases the album, has 1 or 2 lives per single and forget about it... Maybe she only promoted HS that way cause she didn't have enought pvs :B

koumori 10th June 2009 01:18 PM

^ You have a point~

But I don't think Utada's giving up. I think we're all assuming too much >o< I think it's amazing what she's achieved in America so far, so I'm happy at the moment.

I've only been a fan of Utada since 2007, so go against the new fans all you want. It just means they were unlucky enough to discover her music later.

nemesisyume 10th June 2009 02:32 PM

I think I'll listen trough This is the one again.
I didn't like it at the first listen but it deserves a second chance :D


I have to say....

omg....

I'm loving this album!

stupid me for not liking it first!


this IS the one!

bluegie 10th June 2009 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 1975007)
Sorry for being rude, but... Utada almost aways promotes this way... HS promotion was diferent from Ultra Blue, Exodus and Deep River promotions... usually she just releases the album, has 1 or 2 lives per single and forget about it... Maybe she only promoted HS that way cause she didn't have enought pvs :B

Now you remind me when there was practically no promotion from her for first three albums or so :D. When First Love was released, Toshiba made her as mysterious as possible. During Distance, she did have one live for singing DISTANCE... that was about 1.5 months after the album was released. Basically she was hidden somewhere else while "fighting against" ayu. Then she did nothing at all for DEEP RIVER because of her illness...

Yeah I mean, she has been like that since day 1... and her release schedule is weird anywayz. She could have no materials at all for a long period (First Love --> Distance, or DR --> UB), or she could release like crazy all of the sudden (according to her release standard..). DEEP RIVER should be a good example for this case.

And tbh, I have no idea why she went on lots of music shows recently. She used to NOT doing anything when releasing singles.. Lemme think.. the singles which she didn't promote on music shows (during the single release period):

Automatic, Movin' On Without You, Addicted To You, Wait & See, For You/TIME LIMIT, FINAL DISTANCE, traveling, Hikari, Keep Tryin'.

So you see, she didn't do much during First Love --> DR era. I'm not pointing out these stuff to against amorphose or others who are disppointed for hikki not doing anything lately... But I mean as a fan since 1999, I'm actually not used to her going on music shows at all... And she's always hiding anywayz, so I'm OK with that (no promotions for TITO, as I feel she doesn't extremely care anywayz)..

amorphose 10th June 2009 05:05 PM

Okay, last night I was upset at things that really had nothing to do with Utada and I think I took some of my anger out here, and I want to apologize to everyone for that.

Don't get me wrong, I'm not taking anything I said back-- I am pretty disappointed but I think some of it was taken the wrong way. Like I said, I've been an Utada fan since 2003 so I definitely know how sporadic her release schedule is, I just think it's strange, is all-- that her new Japanese song hasn't even had an official announcement and its now 17 days away from when the movie comes out.

As long as she has the song done, that's all on EMI though, I guess. ^^

And about TiTO, I know that she rarely ever does promotion for her albums and singles but like xheartstation said, it'd be a shame for her to throw this away. She's already gotten so far without doing barely anything. So if she could just act like she cared for one album, she'd be able to make it her. That's all I wanna see, as a fan.

Offtopic:
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Originally Posted by bluegie
And tbh, I have no idea why she went on lots of music shows recently. She used to NOT doing anything when releasing singles.. Lemme think.. the singles which she didn't promote on music shows (during the single release period):

Automatic, Movin' On Without You, Addicted To You, Wait & See, For You/TIME LIMIT, FINAL DISTANCE, traveling, Hikari, Keep Tryin'.

You know, it's a shame she never went on TV for some of these songs. Especially Hikari, I love her live performances of that.

taskinillusion 11th June 2009 01:41 AM

^ I definitely understand what you're saying and agree with you on a lot of it. :yes

Andrenekoi 11th June 2009 03:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Koumori (Post 1975197)
^ You have a point~

But I don't think Utada's giving up. I think we're all assuming too much >o< I think it's amazing what she's achieved in America so far, so I'm happy at the moment.

I've only been a fan of Utada since 2007, so go against the new fans all you want. It just means they were unlucky enough to discover her music later.

I have nothing against new fans, I think it's very nice to see that my girl still has power to grab atention from new people... But some of her newer fans are not used to the way she works... If u like lot's of tv appearences, concerts, cms, new music every time... Hikki is a terrible artist to follow...^^ She is promoting TITO the same way she promotes everything... and I don't really know if it will make anything better for her sales promoting like crazy right now, cause most of the planned things were for people who alread knows her, and those most likely alread bought the album

I think that she should take her time with the Evangelion thing and them try another TITO single... this may even bring Come back to me up again...
This is not Japan, where u need to sell everything u can in one month before being forgoten forever :P... She still has 3 or 4 singles left if she is going to release the usual number most artists do

AyUta 11th June 2009 07:23 AM

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Originally Posted by Andrenekoi (Post 1975007)
Sorry for being rude, but... Utada almost aways promotes this way... HS promotion was diferent from Ultra Blue, Exodus and Deep River promotions... usually she just releases the album, has 1 or 2 lives per single and forget about it... Maybe she only promoted HS that way cause she didn't have enought pvs :B

True. Imagine if she and her label were major promoters? I wonder how her sales would be now if that was what they did. Heavy promotion.

Kaiouforever 11th June 2009 08:08 AM

I burned some of Utada's new songs on a mix CD I made and my brother was like "Oh this is a cool song." YESSSSSSSSSSs


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