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aura~ 12th August 2009 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Tsubasa2591 (Post 2057289)
kumi has nothing to do here!

Hey! We all are comparing ayus sales with other artists, YUI's sales, yearly rankings... Kuu is another artist as much others! Everybody is a bit sad with S/S first day sales and making predictions that doesn't mach past single standards, etc...

I'm only saying that Kuu with a more complet single has sold 87K in 5 weeks and that one of our worse predictions for S/S first week is to sell 88K so we don't have to be upset or sth cause S/S will be really lucky if can reach this in one week...

really... doesn't take always in the bad way every comment that refers to Kuu... u.U

waterballoon 12th August 2009 04:32 PM

Yes actually Kuu's sale for 3 SPLASH was really bad... it's a good and strong single with goodies... so I don't know... :shrug I'm saddened too.

But well back on topic... I really can't wait for tomorrow's sales... I'm predicting 28k~ or so.

Beauty4123 12th August 2009 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Gkone01 (Post 2057063)
1st day sales at Oricon:
#1 36552

it looks like kinda low to me, but hopefully it'll sell decently throughout the week.

Corvina 12th August 2009 05:17 PM

36k is quite good and I'm happy about it, but I do think the sales will drop about or even under 20k tomorrow.

Kazeyomi 12th August 2009 05:21 PM

I'm not surprised.
Sunrise/Sunset isn't one of her best singles IMO so lower sells are quite normal :shrug

Neko★munication 12th August 2009 05:26 PM

Ayu doesn't even deserve #1 tbh. Momusu worked way harder to promote their single and it's their 40th.

Evolution7/4 12th August 2009 05:28 PM

iTunes sales are fantastic. As of midnight Japan time (single has been out for 24 hours)
Sunrise: 2 Overall
1 J-pop

Sunset: 12 overall
8 J-pop

Mega Mix: 29 Overall
21 J-pop

Sunrise PV: 1 Overall and J-pop

Sunset PV: 2 Overall and J-pop

Lanz16 12th August 2009 05:28 PM

YAHOO!!! #1 BABY!!! X]

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Originally Posted by Jwiz (Post 2057028)
^ Lower than R/S's first day sales? :(

Nope, its 10k higher than R/S.
R/S used the x1.7 multiplication just to make it higher.
S/S will be HIGHER if they use the x1.7 index, but it was eliminated by ORICON this year.

We can see the ACTUAL CD sales. :)


Its better to let go the x1.7 and satisfy the decent sales than to loafin' around on the past sales and sad.
As of the performance of S/S on the release date, im very satisfied. :)

Evolution7/4 12th August 2009 05:30 PM

Oh and overall the entire single is (this is amongst albums and singles they don't seperate them on iTunes)
6 J-pop
16 Overall

TITANIC 12th August 2009 05:40 PM

woooooooooooooooowww... it did good job in itunes chart

TITANIC 12th August 2009 05:46 PM

woooooooooooooooowww... it did good job in itunes chart

lfe. 12th August 2009 05:46 PM

Everyone should stop freaking out, its impressive that S/S sold as much as it did on the first day. The fact is its getting harder and harder for physical CD sales especially when 1) Digital downloads are way cheaper & 2) How many people out there are still willing to pay $15-20 for basically 2 songs unless you're a hardcore fan?

I thought WILD was one of Namie's best songs and that single ended up selling even less than Rule/Sparkle. Unless you're one of those boy bands that are invulnerable to worldwide recession, expect a dip in sales for everyone.

Evolution7/4 12th August 2009 05:49 PM

^Not to mention there aren't various versions and no first press. Sales may not have a drastic drop because of that though.

zyoeru 12th August 2009 06:07 PM

Disappointing it debuted lower, but it's still debuted at no 1! :D

lfe. 12th August 2009 06:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Evolution7/4 (Post 2057412)
^Not to mention there aren't various versions and no first press. Sales may not have a drastic drop because of that though.

Those are possibilities as well, but who knows how much they would help with sales? How do we know they would even help? I think the result would have been the same.

ストロボ・EdGE 12th August 2009 06:23 PM

Could 100~150K be the new 500K? It seems all of these popular artists (excluding boy bands and new, really popular songs by new artists) are selling about 100K per single...

YUI, Perfume, Koda Kumi, Kobukuro, and many of GreeeN's singles can only sell less or a little more than 100K these days, and they're all very popular artists.

So with that in mind I think 500K is the new million seller!

I.e., Ayu's doing fine...

Evolution7/4 12th August 2009 06:36 PM

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Originally Posted by lfebaggins (Post 2057434)
Those are possibilities as well, but who knows how much they would help with sales? How do we know they would even help? I think the result would have been the same.

Maybe a little on the first day thats why second day sales drop so much and that why i said the good thing is that we probably won't have that big drop now.

emikoishida 12th August 2009 06:53 PM

She'll reach one million sales this year. She would have to release another single/dvd/compilation album by the end , right? She can't leave us hanging.

The sales are scary but even with the crappiness of the single it should have hit 50k with all the promotion. At least she got number one spot.

SunshineSlayer 12th August 2009 06:54 PM

I think the first day is kind of low. Mainly because this is her summer single and usually those would be selling more than stuff like Rule or MW.

emikoishida 12th August 2009 06:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ストロボ・EdGE (Post 2057438)
Could 100~150K be the new 500K? It seems all of these popular artists (excluding boy bands and new, really popular songs by new artists) are selling about 100K per single...

YUI, Perfume, Koda Kumi, Kobukuro, and many of GreeeN's singles can only sell less or a little more than 100K these days, and they're all very popular artists.

So with that in mind I think 500K is the new million seller!

I.e., Ayu's doing fine...

Because of illegal downloading.


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