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spanishfan 2nd March 2012 12:01 AM

Ayu is alone in the covers, we are these peoply partying and having fun around her...


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Andrenekoi 2nd March 2012 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ayu_ready? (Post 2824789)
http://savepic.net/2520042.gif
you & your friend, both, always act like 2 old agressive unsatisfied virgins, I'm already used to it and I can only sympathise, because...
I'll tell you both, till it's not too late get rid of your problems, or probably it is already too late...:P
your mental state is to be of concern too. too many hang-ups I say

btw, I'm gonna find traces of loneliness on my ass and get back! :)
http://savepic.net/2507754.gif.

Thank you very much! You don't know how much it means to me to find another old agressive unsatisfied virgin! We should totally hang out sometime! It will be awesome! We will be BFFs forever! :love:grouphug:spazzed

emi♡ 2nd March 2012 12:24 AM

^I thought WE were BFFs :cry


Anyway, I think it's sad that any sort of sexuality done in this way is considered trashy or cheap.

I know there are different ways to do sexy. Im fairly certain I have a good understanding of what most people would consider trashy or classy.

But I think sometimes it's important to remember that those parameters are still subjective, and that some people like to push, or be more brash, because that's who they are.

These covers remind me so much of MAA. MAA is always doing things that are really in your face and "trashy"...

but I don't consider her trashy, or ****ty, or anything like that. And even if she was, the music owns so, idgaf.

In any case, as much as I think the covers are poorly executed (which looks like it was a conversation in itself back there...damn) I still like them, and I definitely admire them and Ayu for pushing the sexy boundary, and blurring lines, bridging themes, and showing off her sexuality in general.

Pieces_of_SEVEN 2nd March 2012 12:26 AM

I love them...even BEFORE knowing the concept behind them. The concept just made me love them more.

Haters gonna hate. :heart

Andrenekoi 2nd March 2012 12:28 AM

@emi♡
We were BFFs before u friendzoned me ;----;

emi♡ 2nd March 2012 12:49 AM

pff oh please.

lfe. 2nd March 2012 01:02 AM

I like the covers, I don't know what the fuss is about.

happiholic★ 2nd March 2012 01:58 AM

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Originally Posted by MiiSan (Post 2824570)
I, for one, don't think the sadness "shown" should be so obvious. Sometimes, the people who are always cheerful and happy go lucky might be the exact opposite inside. They choose not to show cause they are afraid that they will be judged, left alone and/or laughed at, thus, they prefer to show another face, something everybody else would like (smile, laugh, joke etc) so they won't feel completely alone.

Let's take U;Nee (Korean singer) for example. She always seemed cheerful through her career (lives, making offs, interviews etc) but in the end, she killed herself, just before the release of her 3rd album (and only few songs are sad, the rest are dance/R&B). Only 2 or 3 times she showed her true sadness but most of the time she hid it behind her smiley face.

And about the happy partying thing... a lot of celebrities (Amy Winehouse, Whitney Houston and more examples) try to make themselves feel better with drugs, clubbing, partying, alcohol etc. cause they cannot hold the pressure of being famous any longer, with all the paparazzi trying to disturb you every day and then show your awkward poses to the entire world, ready to talk trash about you. And they were smiling on the outside for a moment when partying and that's it, they go back on their daily depressed mood, feeling locked, no freedom etc.

The same thing might represent the Party Queen covers, even if she looks that smiley, she still is unhappy inside (hence she looks like she's high on drugs/alcohol, stripped to her panties and bra) and Ayu said that the covers are a parody of the scandal magazines, maybe that's why the photos look so unprofessional, they wanted to appear like a paparazzo took them and show how the "Queen" (Empress of J-pop) is so worn out and loose in the party.

Just my interpretation though :P
And sorry for the rant, I was kind of tired to see posts like "SHE'S SAD??? BUT SHE LOOKS SO HAPPEE DER!!1"

Yes, celebrities can hide their true feelings from the media because of their status, but these are album covers we are talking about. Something that fans, casual listeners and non-fans alike will see. The covers are all about grabbing attention at first glance. Therefore, if this was Ayu's concept, then it should be a tad more obvious.

TeamAyu2004 2nd March 2012 02:12 AM

^ at this point I dont think she cares about the casual listeners...
I rather think she is making music for her fans.
I understand the covers are not everyone cup of tea.. (hehe.. maybe that song has more meaning now!)
But I think they fit well with what she wants to do and what has been going on in her life.

Really this could just be all about pissing people off... I mean... after all the crap she has gone through the past year... I mean what better way to say "I can do whatever the hell i want."

happiholic★ 2nd March 2012 02:31 AM

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Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 2824900)
^ at this point I dont think she cares about the casual listeners...
I rather think she is making music for her fans.
I understand the covers are not everyone cup of tea.. (hehe.. maybe that song has more meaning now!)
But I think they fit well with what she wants to do and what has been going on in her life.

Really this could just be all about pissing people off... I mean... after all the crap she has gone through the past year... I mean what better way to say "I can do whatever the hell i want."

I'm not sure why she would want to piss people off. Someone needs to pay for her Louboutins. And that's her fans. And just because I don't like the covers aesthetically doesn't mean I'm offended by the images. I would love these covers and the concept if I thought her hair looked better and the tabloid didn't look like it was done in Paint.

truehappiness 2nd March 2012 02:49 AM

I don't think it's trying to piss people off, but it's certainly causing quite the reaction wouldn't you say? I doubt she chose these as the covers without expecting some kind of mini backlash of sorts.

I do think that the styling and layout is a bit less-than-standard for Ayu but I want to see the finished product first.

From what I've read by Japanese fans, they're okay with these covers, some even realllly love them. It's possible I just haven't seen any negative comments yet though. mixi is probably more honest, I guess. Can anyone with access to mixi tell us how fans there are reacting?

jamester 2nd March 2012 03:58 AM

I hate these covers (all of them) of Party Queen. Looks cheesy, cheap and dirty. The designs, the fonts, the layout, everything!

Ayu, you're 33 already and please... this kind of pose doesn't suit u anymore. U are a diva, so act like one. Do something great (great covers, music and concerts). Do something that suits your age, and your maturity.

if she tried to look sexy like Kuu, than I have to say it is the biggest failure.

RayJason 2nd March 2012 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jamester (Post 2824927)
I hate these covers (all of them) of Party Queen. Looks cheesy, cheap and dirty. The designs, the fonts, the layout, everything!

Ayu, you're 33 already and please... this kind of pose doesn't suit u anymore. U are a diva, so act like one. Do something great (great covers, music and concerts). Do something that suits your age, and your maturity.

if she tried to look sexy like Kuu, than I have to say it is the biggest failure.

Try keeping up, before saying such things. This is just some kind of parody on tabloids or something. It has a meaning :yes (and lol! kuu sexy? o k)

emi♡ 2nd March 2012 04:28 AM

tbh I'd rather everyone just hate it and say it's stupid and trashy, than have all these people who are okay with it, not because it's her decision, not because it's what she wanted to do, but because it has some pretentious artsy concept.


Well in any case, I hope her next PV will be a parody of the porn industry.

freedreamer 2nd March 2012 04:41 AM

maybe the back cover would have something different ?? hmmmm

happiholic★ 2nd March 2012 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by emi♡ (Post 2824942)


Well in any case, I hope her next PV will be a parody of the porn industry.

:roflmao

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Originally Posted by RayJason (Post 2824938)
Try keeping up, before saying such things. This is just some kind of parody on tabloids or something. It has a meaning :yes (and lol! kuu sexy? o k)

Matter of opinion ;)

TeamAyu2004 2nd March 2012 04:55 AM

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Originally Posted by happiholic★ (Post 2824908)
I'm not sure why she would want to piss people off. Someone needs to pay for her Louboutins. And that's her fans. And just because I don't like the covers aesthetically doesn't mean I'm offended by the images. I would love these covers and the concept if I thought her hair looked better and the tabloid didn't look like it was done in Paint.

OMG her hair is horrible!
But im just talking about the general public and maybe even the fans... She gets more grief from the people that clam to like her and enjoy what she does.
this is something like: here is the trashy thing I can thing of... shove it.

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Originally Posted by emi♡ (Post 2824942)
Well in any case, I hope her next PV will be a parody of the porn industry.

We do have Party Queen to look forward to!

Andrenekoi 2nd March 2012 05:25 AM

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Originally Posted by emi♡ (Post 2824942)
Well in any case, I hope her next PV will be a parody of the porn industry.

No no noooooo.... No no noooooo.... No no no..... :P

emi♡ 2nd March 2012 08:25 AM

dont even :laugh

Andrenekoi 2nd March 2012 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by TeamAyu2004 (Post 2824955)
OMG her hair is horrible!
But im just talking about the general public and maybe even the fans... She gets more grief from the people that clam to like her and enjoy what she does.
this is something like: here is the trashy thing I can thing of... shove it.

This is how Madonna's Erotica was born... And it's her best album to date IMO


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