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imkookoo 19th February 2003 06:45 AM

Geez you guys... quit being conservative and naive. Who cares if she's just about to kiss? Who cares if her cover is provocative or not? Some of the greatest works in history are provocative -- sexually, religeously, and every other possible way of being so.

Provocation is a good thing -- it knocks some reality into people and makes them realize some things are just silly to hate. Case in point: Ayu would've been hung back in the 1700's in the Americas for a cover like Rainbow and even most of her other singles because she's exposing too much skin (even if it's just her arm, neck, or a little bit of her leg).

I like the cover.. I just wish to tick off more people, she did actually kiss. Some people don't do it to sell ya know.. Ayu knows what she's doing. She's not 100% puppet. Look at Utada Hikaru -- she insists on not being to glamorous, and that's exactly how she is.

miryoku 19th February 2003 07:14 AM

i like the cover... i didn't at first but it is bold and artistic- something most popular artists don't achieve these days. the controversy makes it more interesting and i'm glad to see ayumi is pushing boundaries.

btw the 19th century victorian era was more conservative.

destiny_ayu 19th February 2003 08:13 AM

Its quite unique....:thumbsup aniway thanks for the scans

destiny_ayu 19th February 2003 08:47 AM

Tracklist
 
Tracklist:

RAINBOW
appears
Key~eternal tie ver.~
YOU
TO BE
HANABI
M
Dearest
Dolls
SEASONS
Voyage
A Song for XX
Who...

(the order is still unconfirmed)

Also, regarding the cover, the article listed at the end of this posts states that the present Ayu (on the right) is kissing the past Ayu on the left. I really like this concept =D There is said to be 4 variations of the cover.

http://www.sanspo.com/geino/top/gt20...003021801.html

Credit : Jpopmusic

angela 19th February 2003 09:26 AM

ohhhh yeah!!!!! all the titles are my favs!!!
i wonder how can M and a song for xx ballad??

trainspotter01 19th February 2003 10:13 AM

[QUOTE]Originally posted by samuraiDRIVE
[B]Not sure why there's so much drama about gays/lesbians on this site. How many straight people are there that like Anime/J-pop. It's a common fact that most gay guys like it.

i'm sorry, but i have to disagree w/ u about this part
there r a lot of straight ppl like anime/jpop/manga

anyway
there r 14 songs in this cd i think
so there must be one more song for that tracklist

Grantith 19th February 2003 01:16 PM

SamuraiDRIVE, don't be so quick to judge people. You're jumping to conclusions. But this conversation will only cause problems so let's drop this issue and talk about the album.

I'm most excited about hearing the finished version of the song "RAINBOW" that should be great.

JTYC 19th February 2003 03:57 PM

oh...o.0.....
my fav songs are all in there ~~~heheheeh...hope this can be the final list!
*HUG*

samuraiDRIVE 19th February 2003 10:00 PM

I didn't judge anyone Grant! I didn't say a thing about one person in this forum. There was no judgement. So yes, lets drop it before I keep getting accused of things I haven't said.

And Trainspotter, I didn't say JUST homosexuals like anime/j-pop. Re-read. I said most homosexuals tend to like japanese related things. That doesn't meant that they're the only ones who do.

baby: I agree. A Song For XX's lyrics make it a ballad, but the music is not. And M starts as a ballad, but it's more rock-ish. I kind of wish she'd leave those out because they're not really ballads and they were already on A-Best. Appears isn't really a ballad either. And in that list "End Roll", "Ever Free", and several other great songs are left out.

Kind of disappointing, ne?

ImpactBreaker 19th February 2003 10:11 PM

Really disappointing:weep

trainspotter01 19th February 2003 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by samuraiDRIVE

And Trainspotter, I didn't say JUST homosexuals like anime/j-pop. Re-read. I said most homosexuals tend to like japanese related things. That doesn't meant that they're the only ones who do.
i'm sorry, i also dun agree w/ u about this part

Biscuitgirl 19th February 2003 11:24 PM

Goofy tracklist. Voyage, HANABI, and Dolls are all on the album she just released. appears, TO BE, M, SEASONS, A Song for XX, and Who... were on A Best. So the only new songs for this are RAINBOW, Key~eternal tie ver.~, YOU, Dearest. And 3 of them I've heard already. Wow. Goofy. I don't get it. And no Everfree. This album is weird.

Grantith 19th February 2003 11:29 PM

I still don't like the fact that the cover is a copy of Namie Amuro. I dunno. If Ayu was hugging or something that would be original, but having Ayu just about kiss herself is a total copy of Namie Amuro. I'm not crazy about the idea in the first place, and I think it's even worse that it's a copy of Namie. I dunno. :(

Biscuitgirl 19th February 2003 11:34 PM

It's a copy of Namie's? An album she did? That's really funny.

Love ~since 1999~ 19th February 2003 11:44 PM

biscuitgirl: im not sure, but i think that Namie kisses herself on some pv...

Well, i REALLY LOOOVE this cover. dont know why.... it just seem so deep... its not just a pic, for me its something like the pic says something... well, that must be my stupid thinkings again Lol XPP

Grantith 19th February 2003 11:50 PM

It's actually a copy of Namie's Wishing On the Same Star PV. Here are some screen shots. It's not a direct copy because she didn't copy it identically, but she copied the idea of "kissing yourself" lol.

http://users.adelphia.net/~grantith/Namie1.jpg

http://users.adelphia.net/~grantith/Namie2.jpg

http://users.adelphia.net/~grantith/Namie3.jpg

http://users.adelphia.net/~grantith/Namie4.jpg

http://users.adelphia.net/~grantith/Namie5.jpg

It's kinda hard to see in the screenshots, but in the actual PV, the two Namie heads move together in a way that's like a kiss. It's not a perfect kiss 'cause the lips don't really move, but it's pretty close. It's a really weird PV and in the last pic you can see Namie's big ugly tattoo. haha. Anyway, I'm not sure if I have the complete video, so I'll redownload it and post any additional screenshots of the "kiss" if there is additional video of the kiss that I don't have.

Unimatrix Prime™ 20th February 2003 12:05 AM

Thanks for the pics, Grant! Guess Ayu's gotten a few other ideas for her new album :)

And as for this argument, I think it's totally pointless. For those who just post for the sake of arguments: more power to you. I can't tell anyone who's right or wrong, but neither should you. Just because one person's opinion differs from yours doesn't mean they're automatically wrong. It's just a cover!!! It's not like Ayu's running for president. If she was, then people may wonder about her past and whatnot, but since she's not, there should'nt be any big arguments over this. Sure.. it's a forum and of course there will be debates, but don't flame. Thanks.

trainspotter01 20th February 2003 12:41 AM

well it's not like amuro's the first one w/ this 2 identical kissing........this kind of idea it just not too hard to create
i mean, look at bjork's "all is full of love" vdo.....2 bjork cyborg kissing (even doing it i think)

about the songs, i think they will re arrange some of the tunes.....hopefully :)

imagina12y 20th February 2003 01:06 AM

haha...i'd never watched the wishing on the same star pv fully through until my friend pointed out that she kissed herself at the end o_0 i don't think ayu totally copied the idea, maybe just got some inspiration from it. there've been many references to ayu copying other celebreties images, like the LOVEppears cover and angelina jolie (that was waaaaayyy back in the old old old forum) or the more recent free & easy controversy. :blockhead
personally i agree with those who would not buy it, why should fans feel inclined to buy a cd with songs that they already have? i think it's great for those who are just getting into ayu. :) other than that, go download the 3 songs you don't have. :D

eekamouse 20th February 2003 01:15 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by trainspotter01
well it's not like amuro's the first one w/ this 2 identical kissing........this kind of idea it just not too hard to create
i mean, look at bjork's "all is full of love" vdo.....2 bjork cyborg kissing (even doing it i think)

actually bjork also has a single where she kisses herself on the cover. it was isobel and it came out in 95'

http://unit.bjork.com/77island/77isl...sobel21big.jpg

i loooooove bjork shes great


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