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Ayu_no_tenshi 17th March 2009 02:57 AM

i'm beginning to become doubtful about them responding at all

sugarbasil 17th March 2009 03:03 AM

I haven't gotten a response yet, either. I got an e-mail saying that they received my comment, but that they hadn't gotten to it yet. :irked. C'mon, Avex!!! Get on that!!!

zoomzoom 17th March 2009 03:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sugarbasil (Post 1863162)
I haven't gotten a response yet, either. I got an e-mail saying that they received my comment, but that they hadn't gotten to it yet. :irked. C'mon, Avex!!! Get on that!!!

It's the biggest record company in Japan, they probably have a lot of crap mail to go through from crazy fans accusing things. :P

ハート〜ブレーカ♥ 17th March 2009 03:34 AM

Keep in mind these things:
-Lyrics are vietnamese
- Instrumental isn't EXACTLY the same as Marionette
- Maybe he doesn't know Ayu but someone tried to scam him?

A-TeensFan 17th March 2009 06:11 AM

still waiting for respond from Avex..

I ********** hate this guy, in his latest interview he claimed that he didn't know anything. he got the song from some of his friend in manuscript!! god, if that was true, how could the arrangement was exactly the same?????

LacusClyne 17th March 2009 06:52 AM

^so the so-called' composer had been questioned that this song is a direct rip off from ayu?

asmAyumi1992 17th March 2009 07:33 AM

He should ashamed for what he did! Why there are too many ppl said that Ayu is copying them instead to say that they are using Ayu's stuff! WTF! He should mention Ayu's name in his album.

I'm very sorry for Ayu. REALLY sorry.....

AyuGAME 17th March 2009 09:47 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by A-TeensFan (Post 1863380)
still waiting for respond from Avex..

I ********** hate this guy, in his latest interview he claimed that he didn't know anything. he got the song from some of his friend in manuscript!! god, if that was true, how could the arrangement was exactly the same?????

so...now, he already know it?
there is an interview about this? on tv?

A-TeensFan 17th March 2009 10:33 AM

a newspaper did ask him about ripping off Ayu song, here's the link but it's in Vietnamese

http://kenh14.vn/20090313024438970_t...-hay-khong.chn

here's a brief translation

K14: People are saying that your song "Mua Thu Vang Em" is indeed a rip-off from Jpop- goddess Ayumi Hamasaki's hit song "Marionette". Did you hear about this?

CTS: Yes, i'm very shocked to hear that. My people are checking the information with the composer. If this is true, it's such an unlucky incident for me and it would be a lesson about checking a song's information before actually release it.

K14: So did you contact Nhu Hong?

CTS: yes, but unfortunately he's not available at the moment (?????) so i cannot give a official answer about this now.

K14: So how did you know Nhu Hong and how did you guiys work on the song?

CTS: Actually i have never met him (????). I get the song's manuscript through a friend. I really like the song and it really suits my voice so I recorded it. I never met him in person.

K14: Singer & composer usually discuss the song before recording, it helps singer understand the song better, why didn't you do that?


CTS: Nhu hong is a new & young composer. When i got the song, i felt it at once. I drew in my head the way the song should go. I had years in this industry, i'm pretty confidence in understanding the song through words & rhythm.

K14: But still, how can you explain that your song is exactly the same as Ayumi Hamasaki's one?

CTS: I won't give any further statement about this until i get an official answer from Nhu Hong. But in my opinion, this is just an unfortunate incident. Me & my happy have no fault in this. If there's some one to blame here, it's the composer.

K14: Let's be honest, is this a publicity stunt?

CTS: Well, nobody wants to be famous for scandals and so do I. I will try to solve this as fast as possible and I promise to give an official answer about this.


what a jerk. I remember on a live tv show said that this song was written specially for him by a very close friend and now he says he never met him in person?? wtf! Avex really should do something.

Andali 17th March 2009 10:48 AM

the arrangement is similar but different to Ayu's which is why there's a different composer, it's been recomposed. Ayu's is better, but there might be a credit somewhere on the single...

AyuGAME 17th March 2009 12:43 PM

A-TeensFan - thanks for the article and translation...so this news is kinda a big scandal now...let's see what gonna happen next

Defiro 17th March 2009 11:48 PM

let's see if i can bring this syncronized to Ayu's PV
this would be extremly funny xD

TeeMo 17th March 2009 11:52 PM

This is illegal and I think someone should report this thing to Avex.

octocoffee 18th March 2009 12:42 AM

LOL.

First of all, people are right in saying it is quite common in Vietnam to cover without credit. In Vietnamese culture, there really isn't any real set of standards when it comes to music or other sorts of media. Illegal copies of CDs and DVDs are sold a dime a dozen. So at least the guy won't really be making a lot of money out of this xD

While this incident should be reported, it probably isn't going to make much of a difference. People are probably just going to continue doing this. Scandals in Vietnam are more exciting than they are demeaning.

Oh, and it's just really funny to read the comments for the Cao Thai Son interview. People who support him feel like Ayu fans are making a big deal out of this, others say that Kazuhiro Hara's rights need to be protected, etc.

@A-TeensFan
I haven't seen that live interview, but when he said written, did he mean the lyrics were written especially for him, or the melody? Just wanted to clarify.

A-TeensFan 18th March 2009 04:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by octocoffee (Post 1864231)
@A-TeensFan
I haven't seen that live interview, but when he said written, did he mean the lyrics were written especially for him, or the melody? Just wanted to clarify.

he said " a very close friend wrote this song specially for me" so i guess he means both!

AyUta 18th March 2009 06:11 AM

Huh...I don't know what to think. I believe he should have met with the composer first though, instead of just because "he's a new and young composer." Idk, it just doesn't work that way.

koumori 18th March 2009 09:16 AM

I filled in that form to Avex~

Every little helps. I hope they look at these. T-T;

Cao Thai Son should be ashamed >o<; You can sing as well as you want, but when you don't credit the original singer (Especially one with a huge and observant fanbase) it's just plain stupid..

Hachimitsu 18th March 2009 10:17 AM

Oh well, if it became a scandal, I think he's been punished enough.. It's not like he's going to earn respect by copying other musicians. He didn't get away with it.

MissElin_ 18th March 2009 11:06 AM

Thx for the article... If the singer really didnt know then I could feel pretty sad for him. But then. why wouldnt he know about Marionette?

Emperatriz Ayumi 18th March 2009 01:18 PM

Although itīs a very good cover, he has to credit Ayumi!:yes:yes:yes


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